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No, really, they switched games on us. Right?
I'm still playing this game out of stubbornness after spending money on the lowest Founders Pack available. If I were a F2P tester in this beta I probably would have logged out and uninstalled the game by now.
Gripe #1: Questing, questing and endless f***ing questing! I've spent the first 20+ levels of this game doing nothing but all of these pathetic f***ing quests over and over and over again. I get on my knees and pray to God every time I turn a quest in that another won't pop up but... HEY LOOK! There's a new "!" to go check out right over there!
This game was supposed to be about open-world, crafting, exploring, conquering, etc. WTF is with all of this god dammed questing!?!? I don't feel like playing WoW again, I want a different game!
I've been told the quests last until about level 30. Great. Whoopdyfuckingdoo. The character I spent time customizing the way I wanted to play I still have to watch go through a story line I don't give two shits about through more than 50% of the levels.
Less is more. Instead of cramming walls of text that might as well be read as "Blah blah blah blah KILL blah blah blah blah 10 blah blah blah..." They should have taken lessons from other game that hinted at the storyline. DAoC did a good job with minimal questing and a lot of atmosphere. Portal gave you almost 0 storyline but told you the entire story through the game play.
Gripe #2: Facebookish. The one thing I was looking forward to most in this game was the crafting and farming. Then I get my farm plot and find I can only grow on this small piece of land unless I do more crap (see next gripe) to upgrade it slightly. Then I plant my vines and F*** ME! 4 hours? Really? I need to come back in 4 hours to harvest anything? Repeat this for every plant and tree you grow and you'll soon find yourself playing a glorified version of Farmville.
Gripe #3: Complicated for the sake of being complicated. Really, the smallest things in this game take huge amounts of resources to craft/grow. It got to a point where I, quite literally, threw my hands up and said "Of f***ing course I need 10,000 alchemy skill for this!" What should be a simple freakin recipe sounds perfectly simple, requires some work to get the initial resources, then you see this one little item in the list... 10,000 alchemy skill to craft it, a large fortune on the AH to buy it.
So basically, if you're less than level 50 with a huge stash of gold piled away and several maxed out crafting skills, this game pretty much slaps you in the face and gives you the finger from the start. A nice "F*** YOU" to all the would-be crafters out there who don't realize that doing something that should be as simple as raising a single freakin goat requires more time money and resources than you could ever hope to amass at the levels you're introduced to the merchant that sells them.
That leaves combat...
Gripe #4: Been there, done that. Combat's Blahhh. Nothing to see here, move along.
Gripe #5: Planet B-612. The size of this world is pathetic. Out of pure frustration (and since it's beta) I hopped and glided my way over mountain ranges that separated "newbie" areas from level 50 areas. Surprisingly, there was no one there. I just wandered freely, trying not to anger the mobs. There was also no loot, few resources to gather, few trees to chop and almost no NPC's.
Oh yeah... let me sidetrack and call this Gripe 2.5: A game that's supposed to be crafter friendly and open world should not put shackles on the player who wants to gather resources. There are only 2 ways to gather a common, much needed resource in this game so far - wood. You either have to grow the trees on your own pathetically small plot of land or go to a disputed area and cut them down in the wild. You can't just freely chop down any tree you see anywhere. Even in these "wild" areas, you're still restricted to certain tree types and they're few and far between.
I've never seen a game yet that restricts crafting in such a linear form as this one does. Even ones that didn't claim to be all about crafting handled this much, much better.
Back to gripe 5.... I then took my rowboat and crossed the ocean. Yep. You read that right. I crossed the freakin ocean in a row boat. So much for the "shiver me timbers" pirate life I was hoping to play out. "Dread Pirate Roberts scourge of the high lake" doesn't really have the terrifying effect I was looking for.
Overall, this game looks almost entirely different than the Korean previews I saw a couple years back. You saw crafters crafting, farmers farming and sailors sailing. What we got instead is questers questing questing questing questing questeing... slit my wrists anytime now... questing questing questing questing farming, going broke and giving up.
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Gripe #1: Just don't do the quests, go kill mobs or pvp or harvest for exp. Which by the way, you also had to do in DAOC to level up in order to kill higher level mobs and do higher level pvp.
Gripe #2: You can grow any of the crops without having to skill up. Some crops only take about 3 minutes to grow, why didn't you grow them instead of the ones that take 4 hours?
Also, you can't "upgrade" your farm but you can acquire a larger farm and buy farms from other people via the in game real estate market. You can also acquire a farmhouse which is a combination house and farm. You can have these in any combination you choose that you can afford to upkeep.
Gripe #2.5: You also don't need a farm at all, you can plant anywhere in the world .. not just in "disputed" areas. This solves the tree problem you described below, plant 100 or 10,000 trees if you want. Oh, you'll have to defend them of course, but you liked DAOC and pvp, so bonus! You can also chop down anyone else's trees you find not planted on a farm.
Gripe #3: Yes, more complicated things take more skill. I'm not sure what game you've played that hasn't worked this way.
Crafting is the #1 way to make money, especially at a low level. You can use your starting farm and make trade packs that will give you 3-6 gold with only 30 minutes of your time (mostly in travel time). There's a quest line that has you make trade packs and shows you where to go ... but I guess that's just hulk rage nonsense.
Gripe #4: Yep, basic tab targeting combat. As in those videos you watched before buying the pack.
Gripe #5: Its probably the largest world I've played at release. You do know there are 3 continents, you couldn't have glided to the other 2. There are also loads of islands from small to large not shown on the map. Also underwater locations.
You had a rowboat because you didn't:
1) do any quests to get the paltry 50 gilda stars needed to buy the clipper ship plans (you could do this within 3 days of playing, actually a few hours if you knew what you were doing) or
2) do the afore-mentioned trade pack runs which can get you gilda, though it would be slow in your rowboat (and would require crossing the ocean) or
3) buy the plans off the AH, which also would have required doing trade runs for gold (but these you could do safely on your continent).
You have plenty of options to do the crafting, farming and sailing that you saw in the videos. You just chose not to do any of them as you explained in your post. I'm not sure how you expected to play the game without playing the game.
So, for some reason I can't begin to explain, I read your entire post. It can really be summed up with the following:
"This game makes me so mad because I can't do everything I want without spending time doing it."
"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."
It is still the same game, you were just imagining things, making false impression... Your own doing.
There are about a 1000000 youtube vids out there with revieuws and guides about everything.
Sad you dint like it, i on the other hand just cant get enough......the more i play the more knowledge i get from all kinds of stuff i discover.
Crafting
Farming
PvP
Exploring
Dungeons
There are tons and tons of things to do and so little time to do it.
Have fun in whatever next mmo you buy / play o/
Here is my entire gripe about the post/er.
IT'S MY MONEY AND I NEED IT NOW!
Too bad so sad. Funny mentality though.
A few tips....
1. Watch reviews/youtube vids/streamers, any video media you can get your hands on before you make a purchase.
2. I completely agree with your statements about the game. Just make it more on point and less bias sounding if possible
because it really just sounds like it came from one of those teeny bopper girls who don't play games and get paid by men in
black suits to make youtube vids infront of a green screen and throw boobs in peoples faces.
Took me two days to get to 30, and I wasted a lot of time.
While I agree that group activity is best, it's not always an option. It seems like people take for granted that your buds are always available to play at the exact same time you are ready to play. I don't think people that play mmorpg are strictly solo players, but the solo part of the game needs to be good too. Really just about anything with ones friends is going to be fun, so that doesn't say much for ArcheAge, for me as long as my friends are playing too, I can play just about any game.Agreed, and tried AA with friends. It made no difference in the fun factor at all. We all said, nope, not for us, too tedious. Some people will like that, but not us.
From my point of view, I am not sure whether your post was intended as a gripe or a boon because everything you mentioned I love about a game. Finally, a living breathing world where there is a journey and those who put forth the effort, stand out, and are rewarded for their efforts.
As I've said before, I was one of those people who was going to skip AA because I thought AA was going to be one of those shallow immediate FPS type gratification games where all players do is jump in and PvP all over the place like chicken with their heads cut off with no real intended purpose. But the more I read these post, the more I am getting excited about playing AA.
It just goes to show you that games are all subjective and a matter of preference. The OP types his post with the intent of tainting AA and perhaps discouraging players from playing the game but all I see instead, and I'm sure I'm not alone, is the makings of a great game that I can finally sink my teeth into and have a great time with for more than a few weeks.
Thanks for the post OP. The more I read about AA, the more I like it. Ironically enough though, the more positive reviews I am reading are from people who are supposedly attempting to present AA in a bad light.
These rage posts just get better and better. The game has quests. They are quests just like any other quests. The game has combat, and it's tab-target. Not some amazing new innovative thing that doesn't exist. This game has a ton of ways to level, but from level 1-30 I would recommend questing as it's the fastest way from what i've seen.
The ONLY people I feel bad for in this game are F2P beta testers. I can't imagine that being any fun unless they are considered patrons. Being a F2P player seems like it would be absolutely terrible. This game was meant to be P2P imo, and with the LP system being the way it is, f2p won't get to experience much of that.
This game is great. There are a ton of things to do. If you can't get past the basic questing system, then you're only doing yourself a disservice and have very little right to complain about the game, because you haven't experienced it yet.
So when I hit 15 and I am not interested in crafting and alike, what is the "do whatever the hell you like" supposed to be...?
WHERE IS THE FUCKING LIKE BUTTON ON THESE FORUMS!!!! +1
thanks for the info that AA have standart quest hubs.
OK, in other words: Archeage is just like any other game.
Any. Pretty much any themepark got crafting and PVP.
Archeage follows exactly same pattern - either level up to end game content or craft. There is no difference there, same design.
There is nothing wrong with that but it is utterly silly to pretend the game is any different and that you can "do whatever the hell you like" - because if you do that, you will be advised to find another the game...
Nope, you are just blinfolded hypocrite..
Simple - you go play another game that you find fun.NO your wrong, you said yourself I have to quest till 15 to unlock the stuff thats not fun to do. If i want to craft I have to run all over hell and back because I have to cut down the trees they want me to cut down in stead of all the fucking trees right infront of me. So you see they are forcing you to do what they want you just refuse to see it. If it was a truly open they dont direct you kind of game then I wouldnt have this huge open space around my farm but can only plant my stuff in this super tiny patch of dirt. I could plant it where ever the hell i wanted if they didnt force you to play how they want. If you chose to play with rose tinted glasses thats on you. And no I played with my wife who stopped playing two days before me because of the same crap, I played for two more days hoping it would get better but not expecting it to.
I can't help but come to the conclusion that a large majority of gamers today are simply confused. It is obvious that many do not know the differences in the vast variety of video game genres, and expect every game to appeal to their individual game play preference regardless of the genre. In other words, if you don't like the features that define the MMORPG genre, why are you playing it?
Although they are all video games, there are distinct differences in the manner that you go about playing an MMORPG, MMOFPS, MOBA, etc. Stop expecting to like every game that is released simply because they all fall under the guise of a video game. That's like playing monopoly and getting upset because you can't bounce or kick a ball while playing it.
I think we are simply in a phase of gaming where there is so much variety, and hybrids have evolved so quickly, that gamers are confused not only about deciding how to choose a genre they want to play, but how to approach the different genres while playing them. And once these genres become more stabilized gamers will be able to choose and enjoy the genres they enjoy playing, and leaving those they don't to those who do.