How do you know what ESO has? You have admitted to never playing it. You have admitted the ONLY reason you comment on ESO is because you hate Zenimax.
A word of advice to everyone...anytime you see this poster in an ESO thread leave him be he has admitted many times he has an agenda against Zenimax and ESO.
look up the phrase correlation does not imply causation.
1. I dont need to drive a truck from the dealership when the dealership is telling me ITS A TRUCK!
2. single player vs multiplayer does not correlate to ALL features. and the thing is everyone knows it, even those who try to argue otherwise they end up winning the debate but not making any change to reality whatsoever.
Can you answer the question....have you played ESO?
everyone knows i Havent, that isnt a mystery here but it also doesnt matter.
So a few of you who have played the game are telling me right now that ESO is a skill based game.
The classes are only a starting point. Each class has it's own class tree with three skill lines. That's it.
Next to this, you have a Whole pleatora of universal skill lines!
- Each weapon type has it's own skill line.
- Each armor type has it's own skill line.
- Each race has it's own skill line.
- Each Craft has it's own skill line.
- and so on. many more.
All these skill lines are universal and are available to all your characters no matter what starting class you choose.
But ofcourse.... how would you know? If you have never played the game and only read some generic info on the main website!
I have even send you a constructive PM yesterday explaining what features from Skyrim are present in the game. I also suggested to you that main game websites are often Complete crap and explain s hit! And that you should check out some of the better community sites!
But no.... you clearly have some agenda against Zenimax, don't give a darn and just continue on trolling and making a fool out of yourself with baseless claims. /FACEPALM
How do you know what ESO has? You have admitted to never playing it. You have admitted the ONLY reason you comment on ESO is because you hate Zenimax.
A word of advice to everyone...anytime you see this poster in an ESO thread leave him be he has admitted many times he has an agenda against Zenimax and ESO.
look up the phrase correlation does not imply causation.
1. I dont need to drive a truck from the dealership when the dealership is telling me ITS A TRUCK!
2. single player vs multiplayer does not correlate to ALL features. and the thing is everyone knows it, even those who try to argue otherwise they end up winning the debate but not making any change to reality whatsoever.
Can you answer the question....have you played ESO?
everyone knows i Havent, that isnt a mystery here but it also doesnt matter.
So a few of you who have played the game are telling me right now that ESO is a skill based game.
The classes are only a starting point. Each class has it's own class tree with three skill lines. That's it.
Next to this, you have a Whole pleatora of universal skill lines!
- Each weapon type has it's own skill line.
- Each armor type has it's own skill line.
- Each race has it's own skill line.
- Each Craft has it's own skill line.
- and so on.
All these skill lines are universal and are available to all your characters no matter what starting class you choose.
But ofcourse.... how would you know? If you have never played the game and only read some generic info on the main website!
I have even send you a constructive PM yesterday explaining what features from Skyrim are present in the game. I also suggested to you that main game websites are often Complete crap and explain s hit! And that you should check out some of the better community sites!
But no.... you clearly have some agenda against Zenimax, don't give a darn and just continue on trolling and making a fool out of yourself with baseless claims. /FACEPALM
sorry but Darkfall sounds more interesting then what I have heard about this game from Zenimax.
take care I plan to stay away from your game and community. I hope to not post anymore on ESO subjects
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
sorry but Darkfall sounds more interesting then what I have heard about this game from Zenimax.
take care I plan to stay away from your game and community. I hope to not post anymore on ESO subjects
It's Your loss to dismiss entire games based one some hearsay by trolls. Good Luck finding any game then, as every single game has trolls and doom sayers these days.
Have you ever heard the phrase, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? The Elder Scrolls series was a perfectly oiled machine and everyone loved it. I never heard anyone tell me that they did not like it. That in itself is an amazing statement but true. All ESO had to do to have the best mmorpg for years to come was copy what had already been done with the elder scrolls series and transition it into an mmo. Just take the best elements of the series and mold it into an online version. Do not add new stuff or foreign stuff, just copy. If it was not in any of the other series scrap it. Except for parts needed to make it an mmo. Zenimax failed to do this simple thing so now they have a mediocre game and everyone that wanted that real ES game has to suffer the loss. I am really not that surprised as many game companies keep repeating this mistake over and over. What does surprise me is that Bethesda division apparently worked on ESO as well and I do not understand how they of all studios could have missed the mark so badly? I am at a loss unless Bethesda studios had little to do with the games creation. If that is the case, then this blunder all makes perfect sense but the aftermath is still the same.
Originally posted by Aztec Have you ever heard the phrase, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? The Elder Scrolls series was a perfectly oiled machine and everyone loved it. I never heard anyone tell me that they did not like it. That in itself is an amazing statement but true. All ESO had to do to have the best mmorpg for years to come was copy what had already been done with the elder scrolls series and transition it into an mmo. Just take the best elements of the series and mold it into an online version. Do not add new stuff or foreign stuff, just copy. If it was not in any of the other series scrap it. Except for parts needed to make it an mmo. Zenimax failed to do this simple thing so now they have a mediocre game and everyone that wanted that real ES game has to suffer the loss. I am really not that surprised as many game companies keep repeating this mistake over and over. What does surprise me is that Bethesda division apparently worked on ESO as well and I do not understand how they of all studios could have missed the mark so badly? I am at a loss unless Bethesda studios had little to do with the games creation. If that is the case, then this blunder all makes perfect sense but the aftermath is still the same.
Still wondering if you ever have played a ES game or even ESO which is based on the things you write. Consider it as a discussion and not a attack.
Originally posted by Aztec Have you ever heard the phrase, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? The Elder Scrolls series was a perfectly oiled machine and everyone loved it. I never heard anyone tell me that they did not like it. That in itself is an amazing statement but true. All ESO had to do to have the best mmorpg for years to come was copy what had already been done with the elder scrolls series and transition it into an mmo. Just take the best elements of the series and mold it into an online version.
Which is EXACTLY what they have done and continue on adding more. /shrug
You said yourself you only tried early beta. They have made vast changes since then. All based on player feedback.
Launch was a bit of a mess and I left within 2-3 weeks because of it.
Now I am back since last week and having a blast. For me it very much feels as Elder Scrolls to me.
The only difference is that you choose one out of 4 starter classes that has it's own 3 skill lines, but other than that it's pretty much an open ended skill system that allows for Incredible customisation. There are dozens of universal skill lines you can dive into to completely customize your character and playstyle.
With my Templar character I can go any way I want, from sword and Board tank, to pure dual wield melee DPS or any other weapon, or don't use any weapon and go pure Magicka route and torch my enemies With Magic skills or go pure healer route. Whatever I want. Can wear any armor type I want.
You can be a wereworlf or a vampire. Join the fighter's guild, Mages guild, etc... unlock unique skill lines in them... etc.
It has the exact same Exploration and Lore features as Skyrim. Almost carbon copy combat system. With my templar it feels very much Skyrim to me and feels extremely familiar. The Whole UI strengthen this feel.
If all that is not Elder Scrolls........ I don't know what to say really.
Originally posted by Aztec Have you ever heard the phrase, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"? The Elder Scrolls series was a perfectly oiled machine and everyone loved it. I never heard anyone tell me that they did not like it. That in itself is an amazing statement but true. All ESO had to do to have the best mmorpg for years to come was copy what had already been done with the elder scrolls series and transition it into an mmo. Just take the best elements of the series and mold it into an online version. Do not add new stuff or foreign stuff, just copy. If it was not in any of the other series scrap it. Except for parts needed to make it an mmo. Zenimax failed to do this simple thing so now they have a mediocre game and everyone that wanted that real ES game has to suffer the loss. I am really not that surprised as many game companies keep repeating this mistake over and over. What does surprise me is that Bethesda division apparently worked on ESO as well and I do not understand how they of all studios could have missed the mark so badly? I am at a loss unless Bethesda studios had little to do with the games creation. If that is the case, then this blunder all makes perfect sense but the aftermath is still the same.
"Just take the best elements of the series and mold it into an online version." Seriously? I am sure all these best elements I can find 10 people who would say these best elements are crapp. What's best to you most likely isn't best to the majority of the world. I guarantee you I could give 100 people a crate of gold bars and 10% would come bitching at me because something wasn't exactly what they wanted. I have no clue how this damn post has made it this far. Just move on, everyone but you clearly sees you have no interest in ESO regardless of what is said in this thread.
Well, to me, in my opinion, every update makes it better and better. I love the elder scroll series, love the lore, love the game play, and yes it am really enjoying ESO. I have always found someone to help me slay, craft and dance..
There are times when I want to sit on my couch and play Fallout 3 or Skyrim, eating popcorn. There are times when I want to sit at my computer and play ESO, eating popcorn.
I bought an air popper and as it pops and fills a bowl, with all of its warm goodness, I add parmesan cheese .
Which is EXACTLY what they have done and continue on adding more. /shrug
You said yourself you only tried early beta. They have made vast changes since then. All based on player feedback.
Launch was a bit of a mess and I left within 2-3 weeks because of it.
Now I am back since last week and having a blast. For me it very much feels as Elder Scrolls to me.
The only difference is that you choose one out of 4 starter classes that has it's own 3 skill lines, but other than that it's pretty much an open ended skill system that allows for Incredible customization. There are dozens of universal skill lines you can dive into to completely customize your character and play style.
With my Templar character I can go any way I want, from sword and Board tank, to pure dual wield melee DPS or any other weapon, or don't use any weapon and go pure Magicka route and torch my enemies With Magic skills or go pure healer route. Whatever I want. Can wear any armor type I want.
You can be a werewolf or a vampire. Join the fighter's guild, Mages guild, etc... unlock unique skill lines in them... etc.
It has the exact same Exploration and Lore features as Skyrim. Almost carbon copy combat system. With my Templar it feels very much Skyrim to me and feels extremely familiar. The Whole UI strengthen this feel.
If all that is not Elder Scrolls........ I don't know what to say really.
Exactly? No way. Not even close. You must be deluding yourself. In your post on this thread you keep giving this link: http://esohead.com/calculator/skills This is case and point a good example of what is wrong with how they designed the game NOT like ES right from the start. I knew at character creation there was a big problem. Where in the lore of ES does it list any of these ultimate active and passive abilities? I have never heard of any of these abilities before. All the names are foreign. So how is this exactly the way it was in ES? It is completely and utterly foreign to the series. Plus all the skills are tied to a particular kind of armor or specific weapon type so basically it is a class system where ES was not. They have changed the fundamental dynamics of the game for the worse.
Originally posted by Aztec I have not played this game since late alpha, early beta since it did not feel like an Elder Scrolls game when I played it. Has this been address and fixed? Also there were numerous other issues that did not not seem fixable to me like boss camping. What are peoples current opinions of the game in its current state? I want to know because I was thinking of trying it again. My main issue is does it feel like an Elder Scrolls Game?
If you didn't like it in late alpha / early beta I would be surprised if you returned and liked it.
If you had said your issues were broken quests, stability and so on then .... but "look and feel". Look and feel are basically unchanged.
Originally posted by Fermian And WoW is not a Warcraft game..
I do not think anyone wanted it to be. The huge difference here is that WoW is hugely popular and quite the success. Most people loved it. It has stood the test of time. We cannot say that about ESO. I will just leave it as let us wait and see but I think I already know the outcome.
Originally posted by Fermian And WoW is not a Warcraft game..
I do not think anyone wanted it to be. The huge difference here is that WoW is hugely popular and quite the success. Most people loved it. It has stood the test of time. We cannot say that about ESO. I will just leave it as let us wait and see but I think I already know the outcome.
I think the question of success is really the only argument that the fans can use that make any sense at all. Granted the jury is still out but clearly the failed debates are.
-ESO is like elder scrolls: (no its not)
-its not possible: (yes it is)
-its not what people really want: (its not what they say the want)
-the current design is the best idea ever for making tons of money: (here they may actually be right,....we just have to wait and see)
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Originally posted by Fermian And WoW is not a Warcraft game..
I love this post. Not only is it the best post in favor or ESO design but its also an statement that ESO is not at all like ES
Please go back and read post #186 of this thread....you lasted just over 4hrs...
that is a great observation and took a great deal of time on your part.
although I am not sure the point of your observation.
Oh just that if you want people to take your word for things you say on this site its probably a good idea to stick to what you say...thats just my opinion though...carry on bashing a video game you have never played and carry on hating on Zenimax i guess...at least everyone knows you have an agenda and wont take a word you say seriously. Enjoy!
what does my word have anything to do with this conversation?
I think you are mistaking a debate over ESO with 'will I bring the milk home tonight' or something. My character holds no matter in this debate.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Originally posted by Fermian And WoW is not a Warcraft game..
I love this post. Not only is it the best post in favor or ESO design but its also an statement that ESO is not at all like ES
Please go back and read post #186 of this thread....you lasted just over 4hrs...
that is a great observation and took a great deal of time on your part.
although I am not sure the point of your observation.
Oh just that if you want people to take your word for things you say on this site its probably a good idea to stick to what you say...thats just my opinion though...carry on bashing a video game you have never played and carry on hating on Zenimax i guess...at least everyone knows you have an agenda and wont take a word you say seriously. Enjoy!
what does my word have anything to do with this conversation?
I think you are mistaking a debate over ESO with 'will I bring the milk home tonight' or something. My character holds no matter in this debate.
Post #186 "take care I plan to stay away from your game and community. I hope to not post anymore on ESO subjects"
So you tell everyone you are going to stay away from this game and community after being called out by multiple people for having agenda. Four hours later you are back at it.
Your word mean nothing when its about Zenimax or ESO thats what your word has to do with this conversation.
you are mistaken. nobody 'called me out as having an agenda.'
the rest of your point doesnt matter to this conversation.
I strongly suggest you stop attacking me and my character when it has nothing to do with the conversation at all. the way mods are around here I would be careful. Please try to stay on topic, not character bashing
added: I would also like to add that having an agenda is also irrelevant to the subject. One can have an agenda and also be 100% correct.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Im not character bashing...please go read post #170-186 plenty of people called you out. Just pointing out some FACTS, pointing out things you have said that is in no way bashing.
People should know who they are trying to have a discussion with...that is not against the rules. I have only said stuff you have already said. like you have never played ESO, You hate Zenimax, you should be questioned as to why you spam on an ESO thread. I would never waste my time on a game I dont play, and I dont think you should either. If anyone should be banned it should be you, but no worries i wont run and tell mommy and daddy on you.
It doesnt even matter and its going to do nothing but bring attention to the mods.
I can have an agenda and still be right, I can be dishonest and still be right about the subject at hand.
All you have to do is focus on the subject, not me
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
It's up to you weaklings not to call it an ES game, then try to make it so.
I played every ES game from Daggerfall to Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls feeling was not present in ESO IMHO.
That's not a bad thing.
If an MMORPG feels like a singleplayer game, something went terribly wrong.
Well, MMORPG nowadays caters to solo play more. Players dont like grouping anymore.
Well, Players do like grouping. They just don't like the current type of grouping. You used to group for adventure, now you group to just complete something you were meant/forced to complete.
Im not character bashing...please go read post #170-186 plenty of people called you out. Just pointing out some FACTS, pointing out things you have said that is in no way bashing.
People should know who they are trying to have a discussion with...that is not against the rules. I have only said stuff you have already said. like you have never played ESO, You hate Zenimax, you should be questioned as to why you spam on an ESO thread. I would never waste my time on a game I dont play, and I dont think you should either. If anyone should be banned it should be you, but no worries i wont run and tell mommy and daddy on you.
It doesnt even matter and its going to do nothing but bring attention to the mods.
I can have an agenda and still be right, I can be dishonest and still be right about the subject at hand.
All you have to do is focus on the subject, not me
Yeah the subject is you spamming a video game you have ZERO knowledge about. Again thank you for letting everyone know you have an agenda and are dishonest when it comes to ESO and Zenimax, but at no point are you ever right about the two.
I have not broke any rules, I have not said anything that was not FACTUAL, you have responded to me and I responded back, if you feel the need to report me to cover your agenda and dishonest behavior that you admit to feel free...or stop responding to me and i will stop responding to you...except when you post on ESO...
so you are saying that what I am saying about ESO is untrue?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
People should know who they are trying to have a discussion with...that is not against the rules. I have only said stuff you have already said. like you have never played ESO, You hate Zenimax, you should be questioned as to why you spam on an ESO thread. I would never waste my time on a game I dont play, and I dont think you should either. If anyone should be banned it should be you, but no worries i wont run and tell mommy and daddy on you.
It doesnt even matter and its going to do nothing but bring attention to the mods.
I can have an agenda and still be right, I can be dishonest and still be right about the subject at hand.
All you have to do is focus on the subject, not me
Yeah the subject is you spamming a video game you have ZERO knowledge about. Again thank you for letting everyone know you have an agenda and are dishonest when it comes to ESO and Zenimax, but at no point are you ever right about the two.
I have not broke any rules, I have not said anything that was not FACTUAL, you have responded to me and I responded back, if you feel the need to report me to cover your agenda and dishonest behavior that you admit to feel free...or stop responding to me and i will stop responding to you...except when you post on ESO...
so you are saying that what I am saying about ESO is untrue?
You betcha!!
so ESO is a skill based game despite what Zenimax says
ESO is a self targeting game despite what Zenimax says
ESO has no classes despite what Zenimax says
ESO allows you to create your own factions despite what Zenimax says
ESO allows you to progress in skill points just as fast without questing
ESO allows you to progress in the game by going randomly in a nearly any direction.
You are saying that?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please post links to support your comment. I know you dont play and have no clue what the actual game is.
Please posts links that shows Zenimax said these things.
Please post links that states ESO allows you to progress in skill points just as fast without questing
Please post links that states ESO allwos you to progress in the game by going randomly in a nearly any direction (what are you actually trying to say with this one?)
Links link links...see you have admit you dont play so how do you know all this or pretend to know all this or just spout out garbage you hear from trolls?
two things here. and I think we can resolve one of them in a simple post.
are the items I am saying about the game correctm, despite zenimax (remove zenimax from my statement) are those items untrue? we will get to zenimax part in a bit
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
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The classes are only a starting point. Each class has it's own class tree with three skill lines. That's it.
Next to this, you have a Whole pleatora of universal skill lines!
- Each weapon type has it's own skill line.
- Each armor type has it's own skill line.
- Each race has it's own skill line.
- Each Craft has it's own skill line.
- and so on. many more.
All these skill lines are universal and are available to all your characters no matter what starting class you choose.
Here check this out: http://esohead.com/calculator/skills
But ofcourse.... how would you know? If you have never played the game and only read some generic info on the main website!
I have even send you a constructive PM yesterday explaining what features from Skyrim are present in the game. I also suggested to you that main game websites are often Complete crap and explain s hit! And that you should check out some of the better community sites!
But no.... you clearly have some agenda against Zenimax, don't give a darn and just continue on trolling and making a fool out of yourself with baseless claims. /FACEPALM
sorry but Darkfall sounds more interesting then what I have heard about this game from Zenimax.
take care I plan to stay away from your game and community. I hope to not post anymore on ESO subjects
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
for me ESO is not elder scroll game. its just mediocore mmorpg.
It's Your loss to dismiss entire games based one some hearsay by trolls. Good Luck finding any game then, as every single game has trolls and doom sayers these days.
I just edited my post and added this link to check out: http://esohead.com/calculator/skills
But then again.... you were never interested anyway. No matter what anyone says otherwise. /shrug
Still wondering if you ever have played a ES game or even ESO which is based on the things you write. Consider it as a discussion and not a attack.
Which is EXACTLY what they have done and continue on adding more. /shrug
You said yourself you only tried early beta. They have made vast changes since then. All based on player feedback.
Launch was a bit of a mess and I left within 2-3 weeks because of it.
Now I am back since last week and having a blast. For me it very much feels as Elder Scrolls to me.
The only difference is that you choose one out of 4 starter classes that has it's own 3 skill lines, but other than that it's pretty much an open ended skill system that allows for Incredible customisation. There are dozens of universal skill lines you can dive into to completely customize your character and playstyle.
With my Templar character I can go any way I want, from sword and Board tank, to pure dual wield melee DPS or any other weapon, or don't use any weapon and go pure Magicka route and torch my enemies With Magic skills or go pure healer route. Whatever I want. Can wear any armor type I want.
You can be a wereworlf or a vampire. Join the fighter's guild, Mages guild, etc... unlock unique skill lines in them... etc.
It has the exact same Exploration and Lore features as Skyrim. Almost carbon copy combat system. With my templar it feels very much Skyrim to me and feels extremely familiar. The Whole UI strengthen this feel.
If all that is not Elder Scrolls........ I don't know what to say really.
"Just take the best elements of the series and mold it into an online version." Seriously? I am sure all these best elements I can find 10 people who would say these best elements are crapp. What's best to you most likely isn't best to the majority of the world. I guarantee you I could give 100 people a crate of gold bars and 10% would come bitching at me because something wasn't exactly what they wanted. I have no clue how this damn post has made it this far. Just move on, everyone but you clearly sees you have no interest in ESO regardless of what is said in this thread.
Well, to me, in my opinion, every update makes it better and better. I love the elder scroll series, love the lore, love the game play, and yes it am really enjoying ESO. I have always found someone to help me slay, craft and dance..
There are times when I want to sit on my couch and play Fallout 3 or Skyrim, eating popcorn. There are times when I want to sit at my computer and play ESO, eating popcorn.
I bought an air popper and as it pops and fills a bowl, with all of its warm goodness, I add parmesan cheese .
Life is Short, Read a Book.
Exactly? No way. Not even close. You must be deluding yourself. In your post on this thread you keep giving this link: http://esohead.com/calculator/skills This is case and point a good example of what is wrong with how they designed the game NOT like ES right from the start. I knew at character creation there was a big problem. Where in the lore of ES does it list any of these ultimate active and passive abilities? I have never heard of any of these abilities before. All the names are foreign. So how is this exactly the way it was in ES? It is completely and utterly foreign to the series. Plus all the skills are tied to a particular kind of armor or specific weapon type so basically it is a class system where ES was not. They have changed the fundamental dynamics of the game for the worse.
If you didn't like it in late alpha / early beta I would be surprised if you returned and liked it.
If you had said your issues were broken quests, stability and so on then .... but "look and feel". Look and feel are basically unchanged.
I love this post. Not only is it the best post in favor or ESO design but its also an statement that ESO is not at all like ES
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
I do not think anyone wanted it to be. The huge difference here is that WoW is hugely popular and quite the success. Most people loved it. It has stood the test of time. We cannot say that about ESO. I will just leave it as let us wait and see but I think I already know the outcome.
that is a great observation and took a great deal of time on your part.
although I am not sure the point of your observation.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
I think the question of success is really the only argument that the fans can use that make any sense at all. Granted the jury is still out but clearly the failed debates are.
-ESO is like elder scrolls: (no its not)
-its not possible: (yes it is)
-its not what people really want: (its not what they say the want)
-the current design is the best idea ever for making tons of money: (here they may actually be right,....we just have to wait and see)
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
what does my word have anything to do with this conversation?
I think you are mistaking a debate over ESO with 'will I bring the milk home tonight' or something. My character holds no matter in this debate.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
you are mistaken. nobody 'called me out as having an agenda.'
the rest of your point doesnt matter to this conversation.
I strongly suggest you stop attacking me and my character when it has nothing to do with the conversation at all. the way mods are around here I would be careful. Please try to stay on topic, not character bashing
added: I would also like to add that having an agenda is also irrelevant to the subject. One can have an agenda and also be 100% correct.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
It doesnt even matter and its going to do nothing but bring attention to the mods.
I can have an agenda and still be right, I can be dishonest and still be right about the subject at hand.
All you have to do is focus on the subject, not me
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Well, Players do like grouping. They just don't like the current type of grouping. You used to group for adventure, now you group to just complete something you were meant/forced to complete.
so you are saying that what I am saying about ESO is untrue?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
so ESO is a skill based game despite what Zenimax says
ESO is a self targeting game despite what Zenimax says
ESO has no classes despite what Zenimax says
ESO allows you to create your own factions despite what Zenimax says
ESO allows you to progress in skill points just as fast without questing
ESO allows you to progress in the game by going randomly in a nearly any direction.
You are saying that?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
two things here. and I think we can resolve one of them in a simple post.
are the items I am saying about the game correctm, despite zenimax (remove zenimax from my statement) are those items untrue? we will get to zenimax part in a bit
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me