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Wildstar still in the top 20 most played PC games
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So, let me get this right. Wildstar has more time played based on the stats of one single social media site that in no way includes every gamer out there and this is an accomplishment? News flash, those numbers only hold water for those that use it and nothing else.
Besides, Wildstar was developed by former WoW devs was it not? It isn't a no name game and stop with the childish playground argument of my game can beat your game up BS. I grew out of that stage in the 1970s, and I bet you aren't 6 anymore either. You don't need a game's playtime or sub numbers to make up for whatever inadequacy you are trying to compensate for.
Play the games you like. Like the games you play. Everyone else be damned.
Sadly, this is basically what 99% of the posts here on MMORPG are about now.
Its called statistics...Wildstar is a no name game, if you can find a game called Wildstar before Wildstar I would love to check that out. All I listed was how well it was doing even after all the hate. Also arguing that im childish is pretty childish in itself isnt it, I guess you havent grown out of it.
What do you mean "after all of the hate"? Can you point to an actual WS hate thread? Bringing up pop concerns is a relevant topic, people taking issue with certain decisions is relevant. That's really all I've seen in regard to WS. I"ve seen no real "hate" campaign against it, as Damon pointed out, most don't seem to care one way or the other about the game. It certainly didn't receive the hate this site is capable of.
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You made the claim, not me. The burden of proof that Wildstar has more total played hours than the 2nd most played MMO in the west is on you.
And I gave you the proof.
Raptr? Are you honestly trying to say with a straight face that Raptr represents the totality (or even large portion/is indicitive) of all players who play both Wildstar and SWTOR?
I will say it again, the burden of proof that Wildstar has more total played hours than the 2nd most played MMO in the west rests on you.
If Raptr is all you have, then this little discussion is over I guess.
Is it impressive that one of the newest games out on pc is in the top 20 most played, lmao? Really?
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So you have no proof and I have proof. I guess this discussion is over if you cant defend your position.
I decided to sub for a month despite the low population because my wife is in love with the game. Yes i am having fun but let us not kid ourselves. Wildstar isn't beating down any other MMO...not even close.
Even on the most pêak time there is only one medium PVE server in US and currently seeing a huge migration from all other PVE servers since there is no word on server mergers. Dont be surprised if in few weeks you only see one PVE server on high and all other servers dead.
The server i am talking about is Stormtalon.
Like the developers have said already is that the Wildstar servers are bigger than most so low can still mean medium to most other MMOs. We know that Wildstar is being played more, we still have no way of telling how many actual players though so far until they release their numbers later this month, it seems like the ones who enjoy it are playing a lot.
I have no ill will toward WS, it could very well be the best MMO on the market, but nothing you've presented proves anything other than those who keep these statistics feel the game is running out of steam. That's their own breakdown of said information. Which speaks to the exact opposite of the point you're trying to prove.
It's falling which means accumulated playtime is going down, not up, in effect the games these folks are loading up instead are moving up, not down. It means raptr members are moving to something else, just as what it says of ESO.
BTW Month to month makes for a more interesting picture.
month 1 for eso was at 3.78%:
month 2 for ESO: was 1.80%,
Month 1 for wildstar: 2.86%,....Month 2: 1.19%
In it's second month ESO still had a larger share than WS does in theirs, as it started larger.
Since we only have one month to compare WS with here, ESO was actually doing better overall from the get go, as well as it's second month, at least "on raptr". We'll see how it breaks down on "Raptr" next month for WS. WS might follow a similar fall or it might rise, who knows.
IT certainly doesn't say thus far WS was doing better than ESO as you have said multiple times.ESO had a larger fall in it's first month, but still was doing better going in to month 2. 1.80% vs 1.19%.
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ThankYou88, you can't possibly be saying that since Wildstar is ranked in the top 20 on rptr that these are the only people playing or not playing it. I am not saying it is dead but you must realize that rptr only represents a portion (my guess is less then 15%) of total mmo players.
I don't even know 1 person who uses rptr. So please stop trying to sound like because rptr says so means it is a fact.
It is possible that if numbers could be obtained for every mmo currently in existence Wildstar could be in the top 20 in population, but it is also possible that it could be below 20.
Like it was addressed earlier, if it represented 1% of the players it is more than enough to get a good enough sample of the playerbase. Polls are done with a margin of error of 3% or less which is based off of .0001% of the population.
I imagine that if the results are poor, there won't be any Raptor charts getting posted though.
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Khm, not sure if this is something good if WS is barely above ESO. Not even purchased (just hate enforced WASD too much), but from all I have followed ESO it looks is candidate for one of greatest failures.
However can comment on Wildstar I have played for 2 months (+2 weeks in beta). Fun game, many jewels, some hidden, some visible, very active combat (still at the end hated all that jumping around of out telegraphs as monkey, at the end all fight is more jumping around then fighting), a lot of bugs at start, .... but main if not only reason I stopped to play was that impossible single toolbar.
Still hope Wildstar survives and evolves. Might return someday to try. IF they remove that silly limitation of 1 toolbar. Same problem with TSW. Great, in many aspects most unique MMO experience in years, but for that button mashing 1 toolbar limit.
Wildstar has multiple toolbars.
I play with 3, the main bar + 2 side bars (ctrl and alt 1 <-> = )
Except Raptr skews to a specific demographic, not the general MMO/gaming population. The only way your justification would hold any weight, is if raptr did not skew to a specific demographic, which once agin, it does. You keep trying to equate raptr with a general survey, but the nature of raptr itself negates that. Same thing with xFire.
You obviously wont let it go though, so we are all just typing for nothing.