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2d top down like UO - would you still play such a game today?

XaronXaron Member Posts: 10
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Hi all,

being a developer by myself I would like to know if you would play a 2d top down morpg today or has everything to be 3d today?

Are you used to play on PC or would mobiles like tablets do it as well? I'm more a fan of sandbox games like the good ol' Ultima Online the days back. Do you think there is still interest in such a kind of a game?

Thanks!

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  • FingzFingz Member UncommonPosts: 139

    I was going to mention android and ipad games and I see that you were thinking about them too.  A lot of games for those platforms have been 2D.

    I would be willing to try such a game and the 2D wouldn't keep me away.  As long as it was fun I would try it.  I think the small screens would be frustrating though.

     

  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,416
    I never touched UO because it was like that. Yes I am aware I missed out on a great game as a result.
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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Quality graphics and isometric 3/4 view, like UO? Yes. 

    2D or Top Down? No. 

     

    Slight difference between the two, I guess, but the latter just doesn't do it for me. For comparision:

     

    2.5D/Three-quarter view

     

     

    2D/Top Down

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  • KalafaxKalafax Member UncommonPosts: 601
    As long as it was fun, had good features, and look decent then 2d and top down view are not an issue for me, look at Albion Online, looks great.

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  • JakobmillerJakobmiller Member RarePosts: 694

    I currently play a game called Tibia that has been around since 1997. Very good game and still very popular. Get a few major updates every year with new content. Close to being a sandbox.

    Albion Online could be good. Need to enter a few more tests in order to say "ye" or "meh".

  • FusionFusion Member UncommonPosts: 1,398

    Albion online, upcoming "UO-like" topdown (tho 3d) sandbox FFA-pvp, full-loot, territorial clan warfare, clan owned cities and territories + other goodies...

    I'll definitely play that one when it comes out.

    http://neocron-game.com/ - now totally F2P no cash-shops or micro transactions at all.
  • SquishydewSquishydew Member UncommonPosts: 1,107

    Yes, without a doubt, I'd play.

     

    That said I'm probably the minority.

  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,256
    Originally posted by Loktofeit

    Quality graphics and isometric 3/4 view, like UO? Yes. 

    2D or Top Down? No. 

     

    Slight difference between the two, I guess, but the latter just doesn't do it for me. For comparision:

     

    2.5D/Three-quarter view

     

     

    2D/Top Down

    The second pic top down type are fine with me , i will play it.

    I prefer 2 type top down with diablo 2 graphic .

    But i just can't get in the "UO type" in first pic .

  • KuviskiKuviski Member UncommonPosts: 215
    Sure would, and in fact currently looking forward to the release of a game like this - Shards Online, something you might want to check out before starting your own project.

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  • sanshi44sanshi44 Member UncommonPosts: 1,187

    I played runescape about a year ago and never had a problem with the view of the game, however i didnt like how easy it became though :(

    Pitty games are getting so casual friendly that they play themself nowadays :(

  • DaakkonDaakkon Member UncommonPosts: 607
    I still play UO so hell yes! There needs to be a new game just like UO just more modern. I love the difficulty of UO but the archaic game systems and archaic game client need an upgrade. Also the 3D UO sucks so don't even bother saying it.
  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    Top down, but in "real" 3D so I can rotate the camera, yes.  Top down but can't rotate the camera and have to look through ground cover and the landscape to see what I'm doing, not so much.

     

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    It doesn't matter if it's 2D or 2.5D view, I just need to be able to rotate the camera, even if it's just a 90 degree view swap instead of a smooth camera rotation.

     

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    Not a chance in hell and no i do not get into gaming on phones or puny peripherals,that is just a new gimmick to get those crazy spenders.

    As to the query,i am sure there are tons buying 2d top scroller games,look at Diablo and other over hyped games.However some of the hype is always based on the named developer who is always going to sell more than no-namer's unless you can find a new gimmick first.

    Those games were acceptable at one time because it was the best we could do,now a days it is considered a slack effort.

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  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300
    Originally posted by Xaron

    Hi all,

    being a developer by myself I would like to know if you would play a 2d top down morpg today or has everything to be 3d today?

    Are you used to play on PC or would mobiles like tablets do it as well? I'm more a fan of sandbox games like the good ol' Ultima Online the days back. Do you think there is still interest in such a kind of a game?

    Thanks!

    While I 100% prefer the fps style of mmo's like Darkfall, MO, Tera for combat, I'd still play a 2d gave if the depth, sandbox and pvp elements were amazing.  

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  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300
    Originally posted by Fusion

    Albion online, upcoming "UO-like" topdown (tho 3d) sandbox FFA-pvp, full-loot, territorial clan warfare, clan owned cities and territories + other goodies...

    I'll definitely play that one when it comes out.

    Just to make a correction, I've been an alpha tester from day one...Albion is not FFA pvp at all.  At present there are more safe areas than areas to pvp.  Was actually one of the things I'm pushing to change in the alpha.  Not bashing it, just saying that's what it is right now.

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  • OberholzerOberholzer Member Posts: 498
    if a game were good enough I might play it but I still don't see why we can't have both, the game play and the graphics.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Xaron

    Hi all,

    being a developer by myself I would like to know if you would play a 2d top down morpg today or has everything to be 3d today?

    Are you used to play on PC or would mobiles like tablets do it as well? I'm more a fan of sandbox games like the good ol' Ultima Online the days back. Do you think there is still interest in such a kind of a game?

    Thanks!

    D3 sold 20M copies, so yeah there is a market for a top down view. Lots of successful games use the top down view (MOBAs, RTS, even the tomb raider shooter game ...).

    However, if you design the game like UO (ffa pk, click on stones to mine ....), i won't bother.

     

  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300
    Originally posted by nariusseldon
    Originally posted by Xaron

    Hi all,

    being a developer by myself I would like to know if you would play a 2d top down morpg today or has everything to be 3d today?

    Are you used to play on PC or would mobiles like tablets do it as well? I'm more a fan of sandbox games like the good ol' Ultima Online the days back. Do you think there is still interest in such a kind of a game?

    Thanks!

    D3 sold 20M copies, so yeah there is a market for a top down view. Lots of successful games use the top down view (MOBAs, RTS, even the tomb raider shooter game ...).

    However, if you design the game like UO (ffa pk, click on stones to mine ....), i won't bother.

     

    POE did well also...I know tons of people playing that game.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    I play PC only.

    I don't think the view is that important in itself, top down, third or first person are just things you get used to, and pretty fast at that. While some people might whine at first I don't think it would affect the numbers of players greatly one way or the other.

    But just 2D is a bit poor nowadays, it better be damn fun to play if you plan to use 2D.

  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,240
    I can't be bothered to play 2D or 2.5D games any more, not now.  I have 16gig of RAM, quad core and  twin SLI cards and I want to see them pushed to their limits.  I was playing games with graphics like that back in the late 80's and 90's and to me they don't class as "retro".  :D
  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940
    Just because it's 3D doesn't means it's good. the devil is in the details. I prefer visuals that are nice to look at even 10-20 years later, because those just "fit" and have lots of nice details.

    For example,I currently play XCOM Apocalypse again, which does not exactly feature visuals up to todays standards. The new Enemy Unkown does feature a isometric perspective too. That is totally fine. I also consider playing Diablo II again, and pick up OMF 2097 again every few years..

    Just as with relastic, the perspective doesn't determine if the visuals are actually nice to look at.

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  • Spankster77Spankster77 Member UncommonPosts: 487

    I would not play a 2D game today.  I played them back in the day but I like to see games that push technology forward.  We have enough stagnancy in MMORPGs today we really don't need more.

     

    Just my opinion.

  • nomotagnomotag Member UncommonPosts: 166
    I don't think I would mind. I mean a game is a lot more then it's camera style. Then again I still play text mmos.
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

    No I wouldn't, except maybe on my Android devices (phone or tablet). But on a PC, never.

    Originally posted by nariusseldon

    However, if you design the game like UO (ffa pk, click on stones to mine ....), i won't bother.

    It's sad that you know little about UO, yet keep on posting opinions about it.

    - PvP is optional since a looooong time (Trammel, you know?).

    - You don't just "click on stones" to mine.

    I was talking about the early game, which i played test a little.

    Tell me .. how about tank mage? housing ghetto? There is a reason why trammel is needed to "fix" the game. It didn't do such a good job anyway.

     

  • sunandshadowsunandshadow Member RarePosts: 1,985
    It's not the 2D that's the problem, as long as it's nice non-pixel 2D, like animeish vector cartoons.  But I would not play a top-down game.  That perspective is bad for seeing faces and clothing, and not being able to see those is bad for immersion and motivation to customize one's character.
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