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  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by Dreamo84
    Funny how all the non pvp plots are first to go yet they didn't want to make non pvp servers...

    If everyone was really so hardcore pvp in archeage it stands to reason the non pvp plots would be taken last. Sad for a non pvp guy like me but oh well. Life goes on.

     

    Quoted for so much truth.  We were thinking the same exact thing last night.  Where exactly are these hard core PvPers and why are they not claiming the non-safe PvP areas in AA. This is going on in every single server.  Raging PvP trash talk against PvE servers and safe zones is rampant in every single PvP vs PvE thread yet when a PvP-centric game is released that includes a very small portion of PvE safe areas, it is those safe PvE safe areas  that are completely engulfed while the PvP areas go largely untouched with all of these hard core PvPers crying at the top of their lungs that there is no more safe PvE land to claim as their own.  It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.  One can only shake their head.

  • psiicpsiic Member RarePosts: 1,642
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

     

    Do not feel bad I paid the $150 and have not been able to get in the game at all since headstart launched. 

     

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  • BinafusBinafus Member UncommonPosts: 230
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    There are people in headstart that did not get land.

    First nine hours the server was up I spent over 7 in Ques, would get connected and then disconnect.

    Tt is a mess now, no real good way to fix the problem I can think of, they should be adding servers now give the people in headstart a chance to move and still have a two day headstart.

    Nothing From Trion, pretty sad.

     

  • ThestrainThestrain Member CommonPosts: 390
    Originally posted by grimal
    Wow. I just looked.  Did you see this one http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?42399-Demand-a-Refund-Legally-Trion-don-t-have-a-leg-to-stand-on ?

    LOL that was hilarious.

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  • NyghthowlerNyghthowler Member UncommonPosts: 392
    Originally posted by Binafus
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    There are people in headstart that did not get land.

     

     

    No, there are people who didn't get the plot they WANTED. Other founders are posting that there are still plenty of open areas, just not in the high demand spots near vendors, travel locations, and specialty crafting stations.

     

  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779
    They have been updating the subreddit with posts, but yes a lot of the issues look to be going unanswered. They did get DDOS'd earlier today for a while, don't think it's still going on. I had an issue trying to buy the founders pack, I couldn't get a card added to my payment methods, I tried about 30 times, different web browsers, used the glyph client tried it on there wouldn't authenticate a new card. But then when I decided hey ill try my other card already on file just to test (not really wanting to use it) and it went through. I don't really know what's up with their servers right now but it's kind of obnoxious.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    IMO when you start charging outrageous amounts like $150 gamer's EXPECT special treatment.You can call it a Founder's pack or whatever other fancy gimmick but it is plain and simple a VERY expensive cash shop purchase.

    If you PROMISE preferred status and an early start you had better well deliver a smooth start because 150 bucks in my view is far over priced.I am 100% positive these gamer's also EXPECTED to get plots,that is why they wanted preferred status and paid over the top to get it.Sure of course i blame people who  showed no control on their spending and ruin it for everyone else by handing over 150 bucks but i also blame Trion and XL games for being a part of such a terrible handling of the game and it's customers and it's monetary design  and it's game design that revolves around it's monetary design.

     

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  • bendwc10bendwc10 Member UncommonPosts: 56
    I'm not sure exactly what Trion can do at this point other than extend the headstart a few more days and give some extra goodies.  And this isn't just $150 founders that are being affected, its the other founders as well.  $150 founders ARE getting $75 worth of credit along with some other stuff that other players aren't getting.  The only legitimate gripe is not being able to get a house right off the bat.  Yes $150 dollars is pretty steep, but fully expecting Trion or any developer to deliver 100% what's promised on day 1 or 2?  The game isn't dead.
  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by orionblack
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    This was always going to happen....that is why so many games now a days do instance housing.

    It happened in UO...it'll happen in any other game that has open plots.

     

    It didn't happen in SWG......so what's the point of me playing this?

    Well, SWG is dead now isn't? So you can't really play SWG :)

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  • etherealantlersetherealantlers Member UncommonPosts: 9

    yo. usually MMO launches are really bad. I'm not playing headstart, but i'm sure the log in issues they've been having are bad. But it's not the worst. These things just happen.

     

    Does anyone else remember the FFXIV: ARR launch?? Their servers didn't even have an automated AFK-disconnect so if you crashed (or just afked in your inn) you would NEVER be logged out making que times insanely slow.

    They even stopped selling the game, guys. Making anyone that wanted a digital copy of the game unable to purchase it. 

    No MMO launch is perfect, they're all terrible and everything ends up breaking. I understand that the lot of you have a strong sense of entitlement because of the amount of money you forked over to Trion for Alpha/Headstart.... and you should have the right to that sense of entitlement because the majority of people that are upset because they think the blew 150$ which is insane. This unfortunately is the problem with Early Access. You never really know what the developers end up delivering as their "final product". Maybe this will be a lesson for future investments any of you put towards early access games, because a lot of the times the only thing that you get in return is disappointment, lost time, lost money because the devs didn't deliver what they promised.

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Patron gets the "ability" to buy plot in game, they don't get a free plot to place house. And frankly that is how housing should be, limited number, 1st come 1st served, ability to rent house to players, taxing etc. 

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  • KangaroomouseKangaroomouse Member Posts: 394
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    No, funny enough only the people that paid a lot of money are screwed. I still can't stop laughing.

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    You will be happily playing on new servers, fresh and empty with lots of room and places for housing. Yes, they open new servers for the F2P start on the 16th :)

  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 648
    Originally posted by ethereallol

    yo. usually MMO launches are really bad. I'm not playing headstart, but i'm sure the log in issues they've been having are bad. But it's not the worst. These things just happen.

     

    Does anyone else remember the FFXIV: ARR launch?? Their servers didn't even have an automated AFK-disconnect so if you crashed (or just afked in your inn) you would NEVER be logged out making que times insanely slow.

    They even stopped selling the game, guys. Making anyone that wanted a digital copy of the game unable to purchase it. 

    No MMO launch is perfect, they're all terrible and everything ends up breaking. I understand that the lot of you have a strong sense of entitlement because of the amount of money you forked over to Trion for Alpha/Headstart.... and you should have the right to that sense of entitlement because the majority of people that are upset because they think the blew 150$ which is insane. This unfortunately is the problem with Early Access. You never really know what the developers end up delivering as their "final product". Maybe this will be a lesson for future investments any of you put towards early access games, because a lot of the times the only thing that you get in return is disappointment, lost time, lost money because the devs didn't deliver what they promised.

    Honestly, I've been in the MMO playing field since 1996. Believe me when I say, yes, this one really is as bad as the forum make it out to be. It's not queue times. It's not DDoS attacks. It's flawed marketing and a gross underestimation by the company responsible for the release.

     

    Other games had the benefit of doubt since being their first release. ArchAge had been released for years ahead of the US/EU markets in Russia and Korea. The game also had several months of testing put into it where problems were pointed out and nothing done.

     

     

  • JeepEscapeJeepEscape Member UncommonPosts: 64
    Originally posted by Quicksand
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by orionblack
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    This was always going to happen....that is why so many games now a days do instance housing.

    It happened in UO...it'll happen in any other game that has open plots.

     

    It didn't happen in SWG......so what's the point of me playing this?

    This is not "entirely" accurate. Most plots, if not all will be taken up (almost gone already) by the time launch gets here, however, whats involved in keeping a house before it goes public/destoyed and the house/plot is available again requires constant maint. from a patron player and taxes can not be payed in advance (unless that changed, but I dont think it has)

     

    So houses and plots that are taken now, will go vacant and plots available again within weeks as players that are very active today, get board and move on to the next game or just let their sub exp. This will go on and on.

    Not only this, but land gets freed up as players level up and move to new areas.  In the beginning, everyone is fighting for land in the same starting areas.  Later on, people will move on and look for new plots all over the place.  I heard this same complaint from people in Alpha, and I had very little trouble finding land.  I didn't get it where I wanted it, but I still got some.

  • KontroarKontroar Member Posts: 3
    Originally posted by Kangaroomouse
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    No, funny enough only the people that paid a lot of money are screwed. I still can't stop laughing.

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    You will be happily playing on new servers, fresh and empty with lots of room and places for housing. Yes, they open new servers for the F2P start on the 16th :)

    Heh, I've been laughing at the XLGames/Trion/Archage situation for weeks now. It reminds me of an old comedy trio, The Three Stooges. I've continued coming to the Archage board daily just to see what new zany development has occurred. This aspect of the game has yet to let me down.

     

    I probably would be heated under the collar too if I had prepaid for alpha/beta/head start and was having trouble getting in. However, I think it's even more laughable that they indicate they have more servers they are intending to open on official launch day. If I was a Founder, I would be even more pissed off.

     

    Bottomline for me, I wrote Trion off as company that will ever see another penny from me after playing in the closed beta. There were far too many negative checkmarks for me remotely consider them a reputable company. In other words, I have no sympathy for them at all. Yes, I acknowledge that XLGames MIGHT have been keeping Trion's hands tied up. I won't touch theirs either.

     

    Best of luck to those embarking into this...'unique world'. :)

  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 648
    Originally posted by JeepEscape
    Originally posted by Quicksand
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by orionblack
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    This was always going to happen....that is why so many games now a days do instance housing.

    It happened in UO...it'll happen in any other game that has open plots.

     

    It didn't happen in SWG......so what's the point of me playing this?

    This is not "entirely" accurate. Most plots, if not all will be taken up (almost gone already) by the time launch gets here, however, whats involved in keeping a house before it goes public/destoyed and the house/plot is available again requires constant maint. from a patron player and taxes can not be payed in advance (unless that changed, but I dont think it has)

     

    So houses and plots that are taken now, will go vacant and plots available again within weeks as players that are very active today, get board and move on to the next game or just let their sub exp. This will go on and on.

    Not only this, but land gets freed up as players level up and move to new areas.  In the beginning, everyone is fighting for land in the same starting areas.  Later on, people will move on and look for new plots all over the place.  I heard this same complaint from people in Alpha, and I had very little trouble finding land.  I didn't get it where I wanted it, but I still got some.

    I've said this on the forums too: People are not going to abandon their plots.

     

    6 small structures secures a spot for 2 large ones. 2 large ones are easily maintained under the normal game laws. When people move North, they can easily afford a 3rd or 4th plot in the new land, the old house and farm will remain, taking space in safe zones and supplying them income.

     

    People thinking this will go away are either thinking in the small-scale of "just their characters" or being delusional.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,996
    Originally posted by Dreamo84
    Funny how all the non pvp plots are first to go yet they didn't want to make non pvp servers...

    If everyone was really so hardcore pvp in archeage it stands to reason the non pvp plots would be taken last. Sad for a non pvp guy like me but oh well. Life goes on.

    I don't really think your logic is sound.

    there are a lot of people who want to play archeage and "don't" want to pvp. So they took the "non-pvp" plots first.

    Not everyone who plays archeage wants pvp.

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  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 648
    Originally posted by Sovrath
    Originally posted by Dreamo84
    Funny how all the non pvp plots are first to go yet they didn't want to make non pvp servers...

    If everyone was really so hardcore pvp in archeage it stands to reason the non pvp plots would be taken last. Sad for a non pvp guy like me but oh well. Life goes on.

    I don't really think your logic is sound.

    there are a lot of people who want to play archeage and "don't" want to pvp. So they took the "non-pvp" plots first.

    Not everyone who plays archeage wants pvp.

    Most PvPers aren't actually about hardcore PvP and those that claim they are are just blowing smoke. In every game since the release of the MMO, the PvP crowd has always fallen back to a safe area to actually play the game. The only thing that happens in PvP zones is, well, PvP.

  • JeepEscapeJeepEscape Member UncommonPosts: 64
    Originally posted by Lerxst
    Originally posted by JeepEscape
    Originally posted by Quicksand
    Originally posted by caine6621
    Originally posted by orionblack
    Originally posted by caine6621
    So basically what I am reading is due to the fact I am not in the early start I won't be able to get a plot of land for a house?  Is this true?

    This was always going to happen....that is why so many games now a days do instance housing.

    It happened in UO...it'll happen in any other game that has open plots.

     

    It didn't happen in SWG......so what's the point of me playing this?

    This is not "entirely" accurate. Most plots, if not all will be taken up (almost gone already) by the time launch gets here, however, whats involved in keeping a house before it goes public/destoyed and the house/plot is available again requires constant maint. from a patron player and taxes can not be payed in advance (unless that changed, but I dont think it has)

     

    So houses and plots that are taken now, will go vacant and plots available again within weeks as players that are very active today, get board and move on to the next game or just let their sub exp. This will go on and on.

    Not only this, but land gets freed up as players level up and move to new areas.  In the beginning, everyone is fighting for land in the same starting areas.  Later on, people will move on and look for new plots all over the place.  I heard this same complaint from people in Alpha, and I had very little trouble finding land.  I didn't get it where I wanted it, but I still got some.

    I've said this on the forums too: People are not going to abandon their plots.

     

    6 small structures secures a spot for 2 large ones. 2 large ones are easily maintained under the normal game laws. When people move North, they can easily afford a 3rd or 4th plot in the new land, the old house and farm will remain, taking space in safe zones and supplying them income.

     

    People thinking this will go away are either thinking in the small-scale of "just their characters" or being delusional.

    Except I saw it happen in Alpha.  I moved my plots closer to where I was spending my time as well, because I didn't want to travel across the map to harvest plants and feed animals.

  • hellsnothellsnot Member UncommonPosts: 49
    Yes mmorpgs are plagued with launch issues on the regular BUT deleting locking and hiding negative forum activity is bs
  • JaimlJaiml Member UncommonPosts: 130

    The queues will get fixed.  It gets fixed every game.  I'm a casual these days and I'll just wait till things get ironed out.

    Yea, if ya spent some money I can understand expecting a smooth launch... it ain't gonna happen, but I understand you expect it.

     

    As for the land issue... the game as been running for what, two years over seas?  I think they have probably figured out a decent balance in land to keep the player economy running smooth.  Like some here, I think the biggest land whine is the fact that you did not get your choice spot.  If all the land was gone and none to be ever had and there was never any opening up it would be a rather limiting factor for attracting players.  They have been at this too long to let that happen.

     

    I guess we will all see in a month =)  one way tor the other things will be sorted out by then!

  • orionblackorionblack Member UncommonPosts: 493
    Originally posted by Jaiml

    The queues will get fixed.  It gets fixed every game.  I'm a casual these days and I'll just wait till things get ironed out.

    Yea, if ya spent some money I can understand expecting a smooth launch... it ain't gonna happen, but I understand you expect it.

     

    As for the land issue... the game as been running for what, two years over seas?  I think they have probably figured out a decent balance in land to keep the player economy running smooth.  Like some here, I think the biggest land whine is the fact that you did not get your choice spot.  If all the land was gone and none to be ever had and there was never any opening up it would be a rather limiting factor for attracting players.  They have been at this too long to let that happen.

     

    I guess we will all see in a month =)  one way tor the other things will be sorted out by then!

    I don't think it's not so much of an issue of people not getting the spot they wanted, but  more of people not getting a CHANCE at the spot they wanted.

  • itchmonitchmon Member RarePosts: 1,999

    i dunno what's going to happen if/when they open another couple servers for ftp people... though it might not be too bad land-grab wise because you need to be a patron to own land.

     

    i will be pissed though if i end up high and dry on land and then people who DIDNT pay anything to get founder's head start get to take a crack at it on a brand new server after we've all tried and failed to get land.

     

    i would be more pissed if i paid 150... i only paid 50... but still i feel like if i'm paying for the game i should be able to you know, experience 100% of the game.

     

    in eve there are a finite amount of conquerable systems, but the world is so vast that unclaimed space exists to this day.  Archeage isnt a small world, but it isnt big enough to do that.  they need to do something.

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  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 648
    Originally posted by Jaiml

    The queues will get fixed.  It gets fixed every game.  I'm a casual these days and I'll just wait till things get ironed out.

    Yea, if ya spent some money I can understand expecting a smooth launch... it ain't gonna happen, but I understand you expect it.

     

    As for the land issue... the game as been running for what, two years over seas?  I think they have probably figured out a decent balance in land to keep the player economy running smooth.  Like some here, I think the biggest land whine is the fact that you did not get your choice spot.  If all the land was gone and none to be ever had and there was never any opening up it would be a rather limiting factor for attracting players.  They have been at this too long to let that happen.

     

    I guess we will all see in a month =)  one way tor the other things will be sorted out by then!

    The land issue is the only issue worth discussing in this game. It's the one that breaks the entire system of the game for everyone to come in afterwards. This game was released by a different company in Korea and Russia. People playing on those servers say land was never an issue because people never acted like complete jackasses over it - players took what they needed, one house, one farm.

     

    Release this game in NA under a different publisher and the shit hits the fan. 1 person 6 structures, for nothing more than a placeholder to secure a spot later in the game. Position 4 properties with only 3 spaces between each and you've just taken up space suitable for 24 people (I actually have a chart in front of me that shows the exact position to place each building to block out anyone else).

     

    In the KR and RU servers this was a non-issue. People placed their lots side by side and maximized space for others. Come to North America and people do just the opposite; plan for months, how to monopolize the most space in the least time.

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