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[Column] General: Are eSports Sports?

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Earlier this month, John Skipper, President of ESPN, the network that, just this summer, had streamed the finals of the $10 million DOTA 2 championship tournament, The International, opined about eSports that “It's not a sport; it's a competition. Chess is a competition. Checkers is a competition.” He followed up by saying “Mostly, I'm interested in doing real sports.” Was this frank, disingenuous, hypocritical or maybe just an unconsidered slip of the tongue?

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  • delta9delta9 Member UncommonPosts: 358

    Esport is just that, esport, it is not a sport.

    I am not interested in watching others play games - one of the reasons I personally do not find twitch enjoyable

    I think esports are at a tipping point currently and they are fast becoming a "big thing"

  • KaladaiKaladai Member UncommonPosts: 6

    Are pineapples apples? No.

    Are esports sports? No.

  • poonczey1poonczey1 Member Posts: 11
    as long as chess is, i suppose...

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  • grimalgrimal Member UncommonPosts: 2,935

    It's a type of sport.  Notice the e before it.

    Edit:  Does no one here watch Twitch?

  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,012
    I am also not interested in watching others play video games.  
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130

    Well thank goodness he chimed in on that. I was really confused. WELL!! Back to ESPN's Poker site

     

    http://espn.go.com/poker/

    Crazkanuk

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  • MMOGamer71MMOGamer71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,988
    Are eBooks Books?
  • artemisentr4artemisentr4 Member UncommonPosts: 1,431
    Your first paragraph had it right. Esport is a competion, it can not and will never be a sport. Have never and will never watch an esport. Nothing wrong with that. I have never and will never watch a chess match. That being said, I have no issue with esport cometitions and the possiblity of them growing in the future.

    “How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
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  • BattlerockBattlerock Member CommonPosts: 1,393

    sport [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA

    —noun

    an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.


    a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.
    diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.


    jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry:

    What he said in sport was taken seriously.


    mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him..

    //

    At any rate it's a good question, what is the definition of a sport?

    //

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088

    Esport is a sport just like chess, darts or bridge can be a sport. Any game that can be played in a tournament form and you can train for, is sport. So yeah, even participating in DOTA 2 tournaments can be a sport.

    Oh and while we are at it, all sports are first and foremost games.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088
    Originally posted by Kaladai

    Are pineapples apples? No.

    Are esports sports? No.

    Nice, missing the nail on it's head right there.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088
    Originally posted by Battlerock

    sport [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA

    —noun

    an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.


    a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.
    diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.


    jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry:

    What he said in sport was taken seriously.


    mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.s epeen a real ....

    //

     

    At any rate it's a good question, what is the definition of a sport?

    //

     

     

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by someforumguy
    Originally posted by Battlerock

    sport [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA

    —noun

    an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.


    a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.
    diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.


    jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry:

    What he said in sport was taken seriously.


    mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.s epeen a real ....

    //

     

    At any rate it's a good question, what is the definition of a sport?

    //

     

     

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     

    So sex is a sport then? 

    Crazkanuk

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  • artemisentr4artemisentr4 Member UncommonPosts: 1,431
    Originally posted by someforumguy

    Esport is a sport just like chess, darts or bridge can be a sport. Any game that can be played in a tournament form and you can train for, is sport. So yeah, even participating in DOTA 2 tournaments can be a sport.

    Oh and while we are at it, all sports are first and foremost games.

    So the old Pokémon tournaments at Toys R Us were sports? LoL

     

    I will stick with the chess, darts, bridge are competitions, not sports. Poker and card game tournaments are also not sports, they are competitions. IMO of course, not all competitive games can be considered sports.

    “How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?”
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  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    Are motor sports sports?

     

    (I don't think I ever heard the term "motor sport" in USA but it's often used in Europe).

    Well if you follow the logic here, any idiot could win formula one. All you do is just drive fast and have the best car. There's no actual skill involved that your avg driver doesn't have.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088
    Originally posted by artemisentr4
    Originally posted by someforumguy

    Esport is a sport just like chess, darts or bridge can be a sport. Any game that can be played in a tournament form and you can train for, is sport. So yeah, even participating in DOTA 2 tournaments can be a sport.

    Oh and while we are at it, all sports are first and foremost games.

    So the old Pokémon tournaments at Toys R Us were sports? LoL

     

    I will stick with the chess, darts, bridge are competitions, not sports. Poker and card game tournaments are also not sports, they are competitions. IMO of course, not all competitive games can be considered sports.

    You are creating an arbitrary line. You would probably call curling not a sport if it wasn't already an official Olympic sport. As for needing physical exercise as requirement for calling something sports. Any game that requires you to concentrate for a long period benefits from physical exercise and a healthy diet. It becomes a sport for someone the moment they start specifically training for it with as goal to improve their game.

    So it is about how you play a game. Just for fun or for sports :p

  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668
    Originally posted by someforumguy

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     

     You're using the verb as opposed to the noun. Many words can have different meanings when used either a verb or a noun.

    Such is the english language.

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    Originally posted by someforumguy
    Originally posted by Battlerock

    sport [spawrt, spohrt] Show IPA

    —noun

    an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.


    a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.
    diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.


    jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry:

    What he said in sport was taken seriously.


    mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.s epeen a real ....

    //

     

    At any rate it's a good question, what is the definition of a sport?

    //

     

     

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     

    So sex is a sport then? 

    Not everyone in bed is a good sport imo :p

  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by someforumguy

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     

     You're using the verb as opposed to the noun. Many words can have different meanings when used either a verb or a noun.

    Such is the english language.

    That is a problem then. In my language it is both a verb and noun. Verb used to generally describe the activity participating in sports (sry difficult to describe in english).

    When literally translated, making up a new english verb, it could be like this. Specifically : I am playing football . Generally : I am sporting.

  • whisperwyndwhisperwynd Member UncommonPosts: 1,668
    Originally posted by someforumguy
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by someforumguy

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     

     You're using the verb as opposed to the noun. Many words can have different meanings when used either a verb or a noun.

    Such is the english language.

    That is a problem then. In my language it is both a verb and noun. Verb used when participating in that sport.

    One can sport a coat or jacket, you can make sport of someone. How is that related to activities, physical or not?

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    Are motor sports sports?

     

    (I don't think I ever heard the term "motor sport" in USA but it's often used in Europe).

    Well if you follow the logic here, any idiot could win formula one. All you do is just drive fast and have the best car. There's no actual skill involved that your avg driver doesn't have.

     

    Soooo...what am I to think? Any idiot can do this with the best keyboard?

    I didn't say they were right, only that was the logic they seem to think makes them right.

  • sayuusayuu Member RarePosts: 766
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    Are motor sports sports?

     

    (I don't think I ever heard the term "motor sport" in USA but it's often used in Europe).

    Well if you follow the logic here, any idiot could win formula one. All you do is just drive fast and have the best car. There's no actual skill involved that your avg driver doesn't have.

     

    Soooo...what am I to think? Any idiot can do this with the best keyboard?

    Accountants  do that all the time. . .

     

    Shoot, I just did it typing this post with BOTH my hands. . .

     
  • someforumguysomeforumguy Member RarePosts: 4,088
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by someforumguy
    Originally posted by whisperwynd
    Originally posted by someforumguy

    I can do that too :

    sport (v.) Look up sport at Dictionary.com
    c.1400, "to take pleasure, to amuse oneself," from Old French desporter, deporter "to divert, amuse, please, play" (see disport). Restricted sense of "amuse oneself by active exercise in open air or taking part in some game" is from late 15c. Meaning "to wear" is from 1778. Related: Sported; sporting.
     

     You're using the verb as opposed to the noun. Many words can have different meanings when used either a verb or a noun.

    Such is the english language.

    That is a problem then. In my language it is both a verb and noun. Verb used when participating in that sport.

    One can sport a coat or jacket, you can make sport of someone. How is that related to activities, physical or not?

    I edited my former post to clarify how it is used in my language. Also the underlined bit is actually using the verb sport as taking part in some game. Guess it is still used in my language like that :)

  • jesteralwaysjesteralways Member RarePosts: 2,560
    Sure it is, as long as someone is making money off of it, it is whatever that money maker claim it is.

    Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by sayuu
    Originally posted by Robokapp
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    Originally posted by Robokapp

    Are motor sports sports?

     

    (I don't think I ever heard the term "motor sport" in USA but it's often used in Europe).

    Well if you follow the logic here, any idiot could win formula one. All you do is just drive fast and have the best car. There's no actual skill involved that your avg driver doesn't have.

     

    Soooo...what am I to think? Any idiot can do this with the best keyboard?

    Accountants  do that all the time. . .

     

    Shoot, I just did it typing this post with BOTH my hands. . .

     

    He's not adding numbers or typing to his friends..... I play rts games with an accountant friend and he's terribad at them. He never knows where half his units are. So his number typing skills don't seem to translate at all to what that kid was actually doing.

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