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Trion giving refunds on a case to case basis.

CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371

http://www.reddit.com/r/archeage/comments/2g8zbk/trion_offering_refunds_on_a_case_by_case_basis/

Still waiting for my refund, but Im glad Trion is taking the right steps and not trying to rip people off further.

Still waiting for my refund.

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  • breadm1xbreadm1x Member UncommonPosts: 374

    Trust me that they dont give u a refund on the "I can not make a house" base.

    I am still amazed that u told us u have 5000 lp left.

    I cant place my farmouse anywhere, but i dont have 5K LP left since i actualy Mined and lumbered the materials for it.

    Why the hell did you even bought the game, if u wanna make houses go play Everquest Landmark.

     


  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by breadm1x

    Trust me that they dont give u a refund on the "I can not make a house" base.

    I am still amazed that u told us u have 5000 lp left.

    I cant place my farmouse anywhere, but i dont have 5K LP left since i actualy Mined and lumbered the materials for it.

    Why the hell did you even bought the game, if u wanna make houses go play Everquest Landmark.

     

    Clearly I have offended you in some way, and for that I apologize. I hope that my response will not come off as brusque.

    I had several problems with crashes and disconnects, which resulted in over 10 hours of queue time, add that into the 6 hours of downtime and then 3 more hours waiting for a customer support ticket.

    And again, Im sorry if Ive upset you in some way that I was excited about the farming and crafting aspect of AA more than anything else the game had to offer.

    They can probably see that I spent 20 hours worth of time not playing. As to whether or not they can see that I spent nearly all my play time trying to find a patch of land Im not sure.

    All that aside, I hope you have a pleasant experience in AA.

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by breadm1x

    Trust me that they dont give u a refund on the "I can not make a house" base.

    I am still amazed that u told us u have 5000 lp left.

    I cant place my farmouse anywhere, but i dont have 5K LP left since i actualy Mined and lumbered the materials for it.

    Why the hell did you even bought the game, if u wanna make houses go play Everquest Landmark.

     

    Clearly I have offended you in some way, and for that I apologize. I hope that my response will not come off as brusque.

    I had several problems with crashes and disconnects, which resulted in over 10 hours of queue time, add that into the 6 hours of downtime and then 3 more hours waiting for a customer support ticket.

    And again, Im sorry if Ive upset you in some way that I was excited about the farming and crafting aspect of AA more than anything else the game had to offer.

    They can probably see that I spent 20 hours worth of time not playing. As to whether or not they can see that I spent nearly all my play time trying to find a patch of land Im not sure.

    All that aside, I hope you have a pleasant experience in AA.

    In all honesty, land is one of the few things in the game that Trion might actually be able to monetize. If there's truly none left, they are in for a real rough ride. 

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  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by CrazKanuk
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by breadm1x

    Trust me that they dont give u a refund on the "I can not make a house" base.

    I am still amazed that u told us u have 5000 lp left.

    I cant place my farmouse anywhere, but i dont have 5K LP left since i actualy Mined and lumbered the materials for it.

    Why the hell did you even bought the game, if u wanna make houses go play Everquest Landmark.

     

    Clearly I have offended you in some way, and for that I apologize. I hope that my response will not come off as brusque.

    I had several problems with crashes and disconnects, which resulted in over 10 hours of queue time, add that into the 6 hours of downtime and then 3 more hours waiting for a customer support ticket.

    And again, Im sorry if Ive upset you in some way that I was excited about the farming and crafting aspect of AA more than anything else the game had to offer.

    They can probably see that I spent 20 hours worth of time not playing. As to whether or not they can see that I spent nearly all my play time trying to find a patch of land Im not sure.

    All that aside, I hope you have a pleasant experience in AA.

    In all honesty, land is one of the few things in the game that Trion might actually be able to monetize. If there's truly none left, they are in for a real rough ride. 

    Come to think of it you are correct, they could have made ridiculous amounts of money selling land for in game credits. I would not be suprised if it comes to just that.

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  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by Corvusco

    You see i keep reading comments where people say Trion is scamming people and how they have the worst customer support.

    For me it's the other way around. Every time i had a problem with their games they solved it on the spot no questions asked. 

    Yes i bought the Alpha founder package but then i asked for a refund and they said it's a one time thing but they gave me my money back without any comments.

    I think if you talk nicely with them they understand! Also another reason why they gave me a refund may have been the fact that i in the past bought their games with DLC and had subscription for Rift for a while. Maybe that also counted.

    I do not think theyre scamming people persay, I just think they handled it poorly. As to customer service, I was surprised when I called their number that I got a recording that they no longer had customer service via phone. More discouraging was their website was still not quite working sunday morning so I spent an hour or two trying to even get the live chat started. After 3 hours in the queue, I wasnt happy, but I kept it polite, and the live chat agent was polite as well. I have spent money on Rift as well, perhaps Ill get the same benefit.

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  • KyarraKyarra Member UncommonPosts: 789
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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    I never went for the 150 plan because I  have a crystal ball and could see these types of problems occurring.  For those people who did buy in,  this is a lesson you need to learn.  Games in the future will continue offering these packs/deals etc. and there will be more and more threads until people learn.  
  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by flizzer
    I never went for the 150 plan because I  have a crystal ball and could see these types of problems occurring.  For those people who did buy in,  this is a lesson you need to learn.  Games in the future will continue offering these packs/deals etc. and there will be more and more threads until people learn.  

    Its not entirely hard to believe that as I mentioned above, they had a good track record as well as other factors that should in my opinion resulted in a  better launch.

    Now had my 2 facts above not been present, I wouldnt in a million years have bought a founders pack.

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  • DeddmeatDeddmeat Member UncommonPosts: 387

     


    Originally posted by Callidor

    Originally posted by flizzer I never went for the 150 plan because I  have a crystal ball and could see these types of problems occurring.  For those people who did buy in,  this is a lesson you need to learn.  Games in the future will continue offering these packs/deals etc. and there will be more and more threads until people learn.  
    Its not entirely hard to believe that as I mentioned above, they had a good track record as well as other factors that should in my opinion resulted in a  better launch.

     

    Now had my 2 facts above not been present, I wouldnt in a million years have bought a founders pack.


     

    1. Rift was a good launch, for me, for others .. not so much. Rift launched great for you, thats good, so every other game since then has been fine?

    Trion did not make AA and the length of time it was out doesn't mean it would be running fine.

    If it ran great in Alpha/Beta and still there were issues then it still shouldn't be a surprise. Dissapointing yeah but given past games have performed better in beta than release, you still should expect errors.

    Now if you didn't even think of any of the above or that it may have errors .. [mod edit]

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  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by Deddmeat

     


    Originally posted by Callidor

    Originally posted by Deddmeat  

    Originally posted by Callidor

    Originally posted by flizzer I never went for the 150 plan because I  have a crystal ball and could see these types of problems occurring.  For those people who did buy in,  this is a lesson you need to learn.  Games in the future will continue offering these packs/deals etc. and there will be more and more threads until people learn.  
    Its not entirely hard to believe that as I mentioned above, they had a good track record as well as other factors that should in my opinion resulted in a  better launch.   Now had my 2 facts above not been present, I wouldnt in a million years have bought a founders pack.
      1. Rift was a good launch, for me, for others .. not so much. Rift launched great for you, thats good, so every other game since then has been fine? Trion did not make AA and the length of time it was out doesn't mean it would be running fine. If it ran great in Alpha/Beta and still there were issues then it still shouldn't be a surprise. Dissapointing yeah but given past games have performed better in beta than release, you still should expect errors. Now if you didn't even think of any of the above or that it may have errors .. sure, your an idiot.
    Well I imagine I join the ranks of many people whom you consider an idiot if your only basis for the label is they disagree with you. 

     

    The game itself was stable and playable in beta. I simply assumed incorrectly. I had a 50/50 chance of being right. thus far I played the lottery and I lost, its as simple as that. For some people they got in quickly had no problems got land and got goin. It was simple misfortune that I was not among them due to technical issues. I bid you a good day and hope you find some way to express yourself without the use of name calling, it would go far in earning you respect.


     

    Wow, you must get insulted alot if 'Idiot' affects you so much, a game beiong stable in Alpha/Beta does not mean it will open the same when it's out. Anyone who's bothered to read this and the many other sites would know this.

    The same as a game that was fine on yours, may be awful on mine ..

    'Idiot' which you seem to take so personally was to the attitude so many gamers have these days that because they were unlucky and one of those hit by errors and bugs, they should be entitled to a refund.

    An apology sure but a refund .. no.

    That was why i said bigger warnings, because if you ignore the fact that mmo's get errors years after release and you went for pre-release, headstart etc expecting it to run fine because it did two weeks ago .. you should know better.

    It would be nice if a game running fine in beta meant release would be fine but from reading the games forums, fansites etc you should know that may not be the case and your gambling. Which you knew as you said 50/50 chance.

    So for those who never read forums or take any notice of previous mmo's teeting problems, yes, definately they need bigger warnings.

    Heres where you are misunderstanding me, the queue, the crashes, sure, that happens. However I cant recall an MMO launch where one of the biggest selling points of the game was completely closed off to a good portion of the players.

    Would you kindly name one for me?

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  • DeddmeatDeddmeat Member UncommonPosts: 387

    Biggest selling point being what?

    The OW, PvP, Housing, Crafting .. Which, each one is 'biggest selling point' to to different people

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  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/410977/page/1

     

    The link above is proof every time a new game is released some troll makes a similar thread . 

     

    The funny thing is you thought you were being clever and you can't even come up with an original way to troll  . 

     

    lol so hard at you right now mate . 

     

     

     

    I think perhaps you have the wrong idea. I could see calling me a troll if it werent true, if you would like you can email me and I will send you the customer support ticket so you can verify I am not trolling.

    If I sent you my email you would put it up here for all to see . Did you buy this game in the last few weeks then ? 

     

  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/410977/page/1

     

    The link above is proof every time a new game is released some troll makes a similar thread . 

     

    The funny thing is you thought you were being clever and you can't even come up with an original way to troll  . 

     

    lol so hard at you right now mate . 

     

     

     

    I think perhaps you have the wrong idea. I could see calling me a troll if it werent true, if you would like you can email me and I will send you the customer support ticket so you can verify I am not trolling.

    If I sent you my email you would put it up here for all to see . Did you buy this game in the last few weeks then ? 

    thats what Private messages are for! Yes I did, my old guildmates from shadowbane all got back together, and so we were gonna relive old glories.

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  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/410977/page/1

     

    The link above is proof every time a new game is released some troll makes a similar thread . 

     

    The funny thing is you thought you were being clever and you can't even come up with an original way to troll  . 

     

    lol so hard at you right now mate . 

     

     

     

    I think perhaps you have the wrong idea. I could see calling me a troll if it werent true, if you would like you can email me and I will send you the customer support ticket so you can verify I am not trolling.

    If I sent you my email you would put it up here for all to see . Did you buy this game in the last few weeks then ? 

    thats what Private messages are for! Yes I did, my old guildmates from shadowbane all got back together, and so we were gonna relive old glories.

    So if you got it prior to release it must have been before the open beta because if you brought it after open beta knowing that you didn't like it you would have to be a bit of an (insert whatever word you think describes such a person here ) lol 

    Knowing that you didn't like it you probably had several weeks or  months to contact Trion and ask for your money back . Anytime in that period you could have start up this thread . 

    But no you wait for today when it goes live to the general public to start up this thread . 

    You only have to have a little common sense to see the flaws in what you are saying . 

  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/410977/page/1

     

    The link above is proof every time a new game is released some troll makes a similar thread . 

     

    The funny thing is you thought you were being clever and you can't even come up with an original way to troll  . 

     

    lol so hard at you right now mate . 

     

     

     

    I think perhaps you have the wrong idea. I could see calling me a troll if it werent true, if you would like you can email me and I will send you the customer support ticket so you can verify I am not trolling.

    If I sent you my email you would put it up here for all to see . Did you buy this game in the last few weeks then ? 

    thats what Private messages are for! Yes I did, my old guildmates from shadowbane all got back together, and so we were gonna relive old glories.

    So if you got it prior to release it must have been before the open beta because if you brought it after open beta knowing that you didn't like it you would have to be a bit of an (insert whatever word you think describes such a person here ) lol 

    Knowing that you didn't like it you probably had several weeks or  months to contact Trion and ask for your money back . Anytime in that period you could have start up this thread . 

    But no you wait for today when it goes live to the general public to start up this thread . 

    You only have to have a little common sense to see the flaws in what you are saying . 

    I bought it on Sept. 10th, lotta old friends of mine liked it, said it was good, but my experience at launch was a lot different than theirs. I didnt play the beta at all.

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  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Deddmeat

     


    Originally posted by greatskys

    Originally posted by Deddmeat Watch out, because using 'idiot' you get a warning for flaming
    I did not refer to him as an idiot I said someone that did such a thing would have to be an idiot . I hope the mods are smart enough to see the difference . 

     

    I meant people in general when i made mine but he took it very peronally, which is why I said to 'watch out' .. though given it was a later email that got me the warning and in that i had tried to decribe why it was used.

    I would have hoped the mods were smart enough to see that

    Maybe they need mods that are capable of absorbing what is actually written I guess . I'm sure the OP will be banned soon anyway hes an obvious troll . he cant even string together a coherent argument . 

    Well what part of what Im saying dont you understand? The reasons mods bust folks like you is that you stop talking about the topic and start making personal attacks, its easy to avoid, stop harassing people, simple as that.

    As to what do you need me to further explain so my coherency isnt an issue?

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  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/410977/page/1

     

    The link above is proof every time a new game is released some troll makes a similar thread . 

     

    The funny thing is you thought you were being clever and you can't even come up with an original way to troll  . 

     

    lol so hard at you right now mate . 

     

     

     

    I think perhaps you have the wrong idea. I could see calling me a troll if it werent true, if you would like you can email me and I will send you the customer support ticket so you can verify I am not trolling.

    If I sent you my email you would put it up here for all to see . Did you buy this game in the last few weeks then ? 

    thats what Private messages are for! Yes I did, my old guildmates from shadowbane all got back together, and so we were gonna relive old glories.

    So if you got it prior to release it must have been before the open beta because if you brought it after open beta knowing that you didn't like it you would have to be a bit of an (insert whatever word you think describes such a person here ) lol 

    Knowing that you didn't like it you probably had several weeks or  months to contact Trion and ask for your money back . Anytime in that period you could have start up this thread . 

    But no you wait for today when it goes live to the general public to start up this thread . 

    You only have to have a little common sense to see the flaws in what you are saying . 

    I bought it on Sept. 10th, lotta old friends of mine liked it, said it was good, but my experience at launch was a lot different than theirs. I didnt play the beta at all.

    So you spent money just to get a 4 day head start which package did you go for then ? 

  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    I wasnt confident enough to buy any of the expensive ones, I just bought the silver one. Thankfully. Hopefully theyll just gimmee my cash back, and Ill go back to playing Rift, and I can forget this whole weekend ever happened.

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  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by Callidor
    I wasnt confident enough to buy any of the expensive ones, I just bought the silver one. Thankfully. Hopefully theyll just gimmee my cash back, and Ill go back to playing Rift, and I can forget this whole weekend ever happened.

    If you were not confident enough in the game why even buy the silver pack ?  

    You only had to wait 4 days . 

    Doesn't make sense to me . 

  • nationalcitynationalcity Member UncommonPosts: 501

    @OP

    You don't have to justify why you want a refund to anyone if others don't like it tough, I mean just look at the slogan for AA. Whats left to claim?????????????

    They screwed the pooch and others can continue to bury there heads in the sand all they want but it's not gonna change a thing Trion messed up simple as that........

    Already got mine and soon this game will be a distant memory.......

  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by nationalcity

    @OP

    You don't have to justify why you want a refund to anyone if others don't like it tough, I mean just look at the slogan for AA. Whats left to claim?????????????

    They screwed the pooch and others can continue to bury there heads in the sand all they want but it's not gonna change a thing Trion messed up simple as that........

    Actually he does have to justify it . He didn't choose to keep it to himself he chose to come on here and make a forum thread about it on the day the game is released . 

    If he didn't want to justify it he should have kept the matter between him an Trion . 

  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by nationalcity

    @OP

    You don't have to justify why you want a refund to anyone if others don't like it tough, I mean just look at the slogan for AA. Whats left to claim?????????????

    They screwed the pooch and others can continue to bury there heads in the sand all they want but it's not gonna change a thing Trion messed up simple as that........

    Actually he does have to justify it . He didn't choose to keep it to himself he chose to come on here and make a forum thread about it on the day the game is released . 

    If he didn't want to justify it he should have kept the matter between him an Trion . 

    well as you can see here, several people have gotten refunds, while I wait for mine, all I did was post a reddit link I found about it. I figure if someone is unhappy about the game like I and obviously several others were, theyd read my post and see theres a chance they could get their money back if they wanted. I had no intention of running the gauntlet of internet rage.

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  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    If you wanted land, you could've gotten it. I have never ever played archeage before. I bought a silverpack on Saturday. There were no land spots on the existing servers. Yesterday they opened 1 additional sever and I got a house and a farm next to each other in a very nice area near vendors and near the sea. And I had no idea how to do it as I have never played it before.

    So if you wanted land you could've got a spot on one of the new servers.

    Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.

  • CallidorCallidor Member Posts: 371
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    If you wanted land, you could've gotten it. I have never ever played archeage before. I bought a silverpack on Saturday. There were no land spots on the existing servers. Yesterday they opened 1 additional sever and I got a house and a farm next to each other in a very nice area near vendors and near the sea. And I had no idea how to do it as I have never played it before.

    So if you wanted land you could've got a spot on one of the new servers.

    Certainly, heres the crux though my friend. I got an email from an old guildie whom I played shadowbane with. I specifically went back to relive the glory days so to say. They were luckier than me in the land rush and leveld up really fast, trust me theyre not leaving and starting over so I can get land on a different server. So leaving my guild and friends behind to start solo in a team based game isnt what I had in mind.

    Extra servers were great, dont get me wrong I hope people enjoy them, but in my situation it didnt help.

    and I totally just said the same thing the Cap'n did, lol

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  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Originally posted by Callidor
    Originally posted by greatskys
    Originally posted by nationalcity

    @OP

    You don't have to justify why you want a refund to anyone if others don't like it tough, I mean just look at the slogan for AA. Whats left to claim?????????????

    They screwed the pooch and others can continue to bury there heads in the sand all they want but it's not gonna change a thing Trion messed up simple as that........

    Actually he does have to justify it . He didn't choose to keep it to himself he chose to come on here and make a forum thread about it on the day the game is released . 

    If he didn't want to justify it he should have kept the matter between him an Trion . 

    well as you can see here, several people have gotten refunds, while I wait for mine, all I did was post a reddit link I found about it. I figure if someone is unhappy about the game like I and obviously several others were, theyd read my post and see theres a chance they could get their money back if they wanted. I had no intention of running the gauntlet of internet rage.

    People say that they get refunds at the start of every game . Its a common practice on this website as I proved with that link earlier .  Actually no rage was intended against you but you can see my point . 

    Why would you spend 45 dollars on a game you were unsure of just to play it 4 days earlier . I don't know many people who would do that with a single player game without researching it a bit at first and if they did they certainly wouldn't take it back to the shop or contact steam because they didn't like the game . 

    Why should it be any different for an mmo . You brought the game you took your chances and you only had to wait 4 days to play for free first before you spent any money . 

    I doubt you or any other people who have done that will get your money back from Trion I'm sure plenty will come on here and say they have though .

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