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I DONT Understand what Beta & Alpha were for O wait NVM I DO!!!
JeffSpicoli
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Someone explain something to me. Alpha and Beta dragged on for what seemed like forever and you are telling me during all this time Trion took no steps or preparations to deal with afk'ers -all this time and no system was in place to boot people off the game. You are telling me during all this time Trion had no clue that the Labour point system was a flawed one instead of rewarding LP when logged off it encourges people to clog up servers and stay on, NOT TO MENTION the incintive for Gold sellers. Dont even get me started on the land grab and flawed system in place for that.... And where is my advanced login for patron status that puts me ahead of free 2 players.... How have these major issues not been dealt with before launch FAIL TRION
What the &^^%$% were all those months "testing " spent on ??? Dont tell me Locallization of the english language because 3/4 of the NPC still speak chinese. O Thats right Trion needed to keep selling 150 dollar packs....
Honestly if this game wasn't so goddam good i would install and never buy another trion product again. The newness of the game is keeping me around, but at some point the frustration of a botched release will overcome desire to play.
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They are clearly a bunch of people with no leadership, management, business skills or ethics - just a cash grab and now, even in the tech world we all live in, they can't put new servers up to manage the numbers. I'm an EU player and I just tried logging in to where I managed to roll a character as 3am and it says 5hr wait time. Really a joke company.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Ofc eso was perfect, how many people wasted their money with that crap? You can play a great game for free, queues are part of the pack. If you expected less then this then you are very optimistic.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Did you play ESO to know that it was crap? So did you waste your money too then? If you only played the beta, you should know that it's changed a whole lot, even from the first two months after launch and as I type, the latest content patch is updating on my system - well I can't play Archeage now can I? Total joke of a game if you can't get in without knowing 5 hours in advance that you intend to play.
At first I thought you were a Trion employee, but a business should have the attitude to please the customer - but your view after all that fanboy stuff is "so now we have to deal with it - such is life" - so you just defend the indefensible and we have to be satisfied with a game that the majority can't get into without planning 5 hours in advance or playing at 3am?
You reduce your credibility defending the game because it's a joke. If we were all here buying motor cars and they came without wheels - to come in the next 2-3 months, so we couldn't drive the cars right now, would you be saying "so now we have to deal with it - such is life"?
You really should take care not to go all in to support something that just can't be defended.
I can't see any defense at all of how land was handled. They could easily have set a tight limit on land purchases per account in the first few days and gradually ramped it up. They could have provided land in grids so that people couldn't stake out multiple spots by planting one flag. In short, there was no design reason why they had to permit such a small fraction of the player base to enrich themselves in-game and frustrate so many other players.
Now I bet that people who won the land (and game access) lottery have a real stake in pumping up the value of their virtual real estate. But this isn't the result of carefully laid plans - it's having other people unable to even play the game and compete. And it has been immensely destructive to the long-term prospects of the game - which is accumulating toxic user reviews at a rate dwarfing any other recent MMO launch (look at Metacritic, where the reviews are *far* harsher than for other games such as ESO and Wildstar.)
Looks like you were fooled. Research goes a long way. It's why I still have my money.
People that jump in blindly with the "Gimme Gimme..I must play now!" attitude have no reason to complain here.
Read the fine print, sort a speak.
Good luck
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Yesterday I used a remote control app (teamviewer) to queue myself from work. I did it around 11:30-12:00. I was still in the queue at 20:00. I think I managed to play at around 21:00. If I disconnected during the queue I wouldn't have been able to play at all that day.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
At first I thought Trion was run by idiots because the biggest reason to pay them money is to own land and they're making land hella hard to get and allowing a few players lucky enough to defeat the queue monster to hoard all the prime spots for later resale to less fortunate players. Then I found out from a forum post by one of these would-be real estate barons that cash shop items will be accepted as payment for housing spots and I realized the people at Trion are freaking brilliant. Greedy maybe, and possibly evil, but brilliant.
They're going to make money off land speculators who don't want to grind and therefore will spend real money to hold those precious spaces until they find buyers. Then they'll make money when the speculators sell the land for cash shop goodies to the latecomers and anyone who didn't beat the queues and didn't belong to land speculation guilds who doubtless got all the best land. Then Trion will make even more money off the new land owners on top of whatever they spent to get the land because after spending all that cash shop money to buy the land, who is going to let their sub lapse or not pay taxes on it?
Absolute genius. A suggestion for the evil overlords: Offer cash shop guards for sub-prime land owners in the PvP zones to protect them from gankers, and you'll make even more money.
Meanwhile I'll be over here, sitting on my wallet and waiting for a less greedy company to make my perfect sandbox. Or for Archeage to die off enough that I can waltz onto an obscure server and pick up some abandoned bit of land in a safe zone to farm. But probably the former. As much as I can admire this dazzling display of greed for its brilliance, I'm not eager to encourage it, even with a modest purchase long after the game is dying off.
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During the OBT livestream the lead producer clearly said "When you log in". So if you logged in like today, it would start today.
Mistakes were made at an mmo launch news at eleven.....
Seriously guys each and every mmo launch has their problems and some bigger then others.
Stop all these pointless threads or post it in a excisting thread.
This is one of the better mmo's i have played in my 13 years of mmo gaming.....
Give them some time to get shit sorted as its already a living hell to communicate all that shit to XLGames and wait for fixes Trion cant create themselves.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
If in this day and age people still think that from beta to release things can change then they deserve to get robbed by devs.
Since when is Tuesday a direction?
Yep, 3k people in queue trying to play a game do it because they think it's boring and not worth their time.
I remember when EQ2 was such that you had to stay logged on in order for your items in the market place to be visible.
I can see this flaw is going to incite peeps and cause macros to assure the player can stay on.
However, the fact this is designed such that you can't get labor points unless you are logged in and the labor points as a cash shop item...
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I find it funny cause the dev cant win no matter what they do in this situation, if they open up more servers to reduce queue times when the population drops in a month or so everyoen wil cry the servers are dead, if there are queues with full servers and all in game is great but people crying bout queues. They cant merge server sat a later date when queue drop off due to the land issue that will arrise with that so they curretnly have on option and that is to oncrease maximum load a server can take and that isnt an easy task i would think which will share its only problems.
The devs simply cant win if you remember back to WoW release it was exactly the same i remember queues of 12000+ on some servers and after a month or two they were pretty much all gone.
We told them in alpha and beta about the problems
1. labor system ( this system is set to slowly drain your labor pool bottom line workman compensation potion= money)
2. PVP flagging ( one can go bloodlust and kill own faction with friends that can heal with out being flagged. if you go in a group and do a trade run for your 16x16 farm and someone attacks no one can help you the group does not get flagged for pvp). So a high level can wait by the dock and target only the person with the trade pack and nothing you can do to help.
3. Land rush at launch ( told them what would happen if there was not a balance in server to population demand well you see what happen)
4. Jewerly crafting is completely down the drain days just to get materal together for a 1:4 change of getting what you want not counting only stamina items are the only ones that can be used in crafting 75% waste in mats no one is going to do it.
5. Regrades scroll tryed to take a level 24 green item to blue one step cost 7 gold for sun point mat, blank scroll mats 10 gold . then when you put it all together 22 GOLD for the chance to upgrade the lowest level one step there are 10 quality levels.
6. Legal system is a joke pirates have daily quest which requires them to steal. The game promotes stealing and murdering players of own faction. So you get sent to jail you get a debuff and you can get out in less that five minutes but if you plant some materal in the mountain if you do not have a farm someone can walk up and take it and there is nothing you can do. IF you want to steal and murder the game is for you if you want to play with out pvp and play nice you are out of luck.
7. Housing the cheap house is 15 gilder stars takes about 30 minutes to get then people go and drop tons of these all over and space them out so 2 16x16 will take up 4 times the space needed. So all the land is taken by people. You save for a bigger house thatched farm house 50 gil star but all the location marked for (thatched farm house are taken by 16x16 farms and the 24x24 medium thatched farm house you got can not be put down in a medium housing area.
That game had so much potential my friend and i started in alpha with the idea we would be playing this game for a long time now after patron status runs out in 3 month if things do not get fixed we are gone.