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Windows 9 will be a free upgrade for those who have purchased Win 8 or 8.1

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But not for those who bought OEM versions or systems that had Windows 8 or 8.1 in the purchase price.

http://news.yahoo.com/windows-9-upgrade-might-not-free-initially-believed-130539770.html

 

 

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  • Storm_CloudStorm_Cloud Member UncommonPosts: 401

    Hmm, I read the announcement on a Swedish site this morning that they're skipping windows 9 and moving directly to windows 10. (By skipping I mean they won't call it 9, but 10)

    http://www.dn.se/ekonomi/microsofts-nya-windows-10/

    Didn't look anywhere else for the information, so I hope you guys got translators. :)

    About it being a free upgrade or not, I don't know. :)

     

     

  • Alka_SetzerAlka_Setzer Member UncommonPosts: 167

    They're skipping 9 and going directly to 10.

     

    Just google it there are plenty of articles about it.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    They'll pry Windows 7 off of my laptop over my cold dead hands.....  image

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  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    So what? Win 7 works great....no need

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  • keeker_8keeker_8 Member Posts: 1
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    They'll pry Windows 7 off of my laptop over my cold dead hands.....  image

     

    This was my mantra for the longest time .... till two months ago, when my desktop decided it didn't like me no more and ate itself.  It is now my new lamp, with Windows 7.

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  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by keeker_8
    Originally posted by Kyleran
    They'll pry Windows 7 off of my laptop over my cold dead hands.....  image

     

    This was my mantra for the longest time .... till two months ago, when my desktop decided it didn't like me no more and ate itself.  It is now my new lamp, with Windows 7.

    Not entirely sure what you meant...but if it died, it might not be the OS....jussayin

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    I cannot see any use for buying anymore Windows,developers are not even up to par as it is barely moving past the Windows XP development phase.I also read several months ago that Microsoft said they would not be upgrading/advancing Dynamic Libraries anymore.So as a game user only benefit i could see is loading newest drivers but not like you need Windows to do that.

    I am sure there will be security additions but they already have that and are forced to update Windows anyhow because businesses rely on the security.SO i cannot see a single reason for Microsoft to justify a new Windows but i am sure they will think of something to use as a marketing tool.

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  • dave6660dave6660 Member UncommonPosts: 2,699

    I wonder if Microsoft realized it wasn't a good idea to put a tablet interface on workstations and servers.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    point your curser to the corner of the screen to popup a context menu - nuff said.

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  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916
    Some people still use XP? That thing is ancient and it looks as it came out of a 1980s movie.

    Why are they going for 10 instead of 9? Any particular reasoning they are skipping 9?!

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  • HarafnirHarafnir Member UncommonPosts: 1,350
    Originally posted by fivoroth
    Some people still use XP? That thing is ancient and it looks as it came out of a 1980s movie.

    Why are they going for 10 instead of 9? Any particular reasoning they are skipping 9?!

    Well, you know how they always seem to make, one good windows, then one bad windows, one after another all the time? This time... this time they decided to skip the good Windows and go straight for the next bad one.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910
    Originally posted by dave6660

    I wonder if Microsoft realized it wasn't a good idea to put a tablet interface on workstations and servers.

     

    What about a touchscreen tablet interface on a desktop PC?  What about a touchscreen tablet interface on a gaming PC where the "Metro" apps just hang around in memory until you kill them instead of going away and releasing memory when you click the "helpful" little X button that Microsoft added?

     

    Windows 8 does run marginally better than Windows 7 but it does not surprise me at all that more people are running XP and than Windows 8 and that more people are running Windows 7 than Windows 8.  Windows 8 is the best looking worst interface I have ever seen.

     

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  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385

    Windows 8 isn't as horrible as people make it sound.  All you need is a third-party start menu and it feels exactly the same as Windows 7 for the majority of tasks you could possibly perform.  My favorite is Classic Shell.  I used it on my work computer for a year and didn't have any problems with using the computer.

     

    There is no real reason to upgrade to Windows 8 if you already have 7.  I imagine Windows 10 won't contain enough new features to make it worth upgrading a gaming PC.  I wouldn't be surprised if they change their licensing model, though.  I could see them doing the same thing they did with Office.  You'll have to pay a monthly fee or your computer will stop being able to update and may start locking down features.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910
    Originally posted by syntax42

    Windows 8 isn't as horrible as people make it sound.  All you need is a third-party start menu and it feels exactly the same as Windows 7 for the majority of tasks you could possibly perform.  My favorite is Classic Shell.  I used it on my work computer for a year and didn't have any problems with using the computer.

     

    There is no real reason to upgrade to Windows 8 if you already have 7.  I imagine Windows 10 won't contain enough new features to make it worth upgrading a gaming PC.  I wouldn't be surprised if they change their licensing model, though.  I could see them doing the same thing they did with Office.  You'll have to pay a monthly fee or your computer will stop being able to update and may start locking down features.

     

    If Windows 8 wasn't as horrible as people make it sound, then it would have more of a market share than Windows XP.  It would at least have a comparable market share to Windows 7.  Instead, Windows 8 & Windows 8.1 has what, 12% of the available market, Win 7 has 52% of the available market and XP has 23% of the market.

     

    Windows 8 is at least as horrible as people make it sound.

     

    http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

     

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    Also, Windows 9 is actually going to be Windows 10 for marketing reasons, and they haven't really released any information on pricing.  There will be separate and distinct versions for the various devices that it runs on though, so that is a big improvement over Windows 8.  If they give copies of Windows 10 to everyone who bought Windows 8, that would go a long way towards getting the word out about how much better Windows 10 is.  I'm not sure they would actually do it, but they could, and that might be pretty cool.

     

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  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by lizardbones

    Originally posted by syntax42 Windows 8 isn't as horrible as people make it sound.  All you need is a third-party start menu and it feels exactly the same as Windows 7 for the majority of tasks you could possibly perform.  My favorite is Classic Shell.  I used it on my work computer for a year and didn't have any problems with using the computer.   There is no real reason to upgrade to Windows 8 if you already have 7.  I imagine Windows 10 won't contain enough new features to make it worth upgrading a gaming PC.  I wouldn't be surprised if they change their licensing model, though.  I could see them doing the same thing they did with Office.  You'll have to pay a monthly fee or your computer will stop being able to update and may start locking down features.
     

    If Windows 8 wasn't as horrible as people make it sound, then it would have more of a market share than Windows XP.  It would at least have a comparable market share to Windows 7.  Instead, Windows 8 & Windows 8.1 has what, 12% of the available market, Win 7 has 52% of the available market and XP has 23% of the market.


    Windows 8 and 8.1 are much better iterations of the windows core. Its the fact that people dont like change is what is holding it down.

    I bet, if you gave them a "traditional start button" then there would be nothing but praise for this OS.

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  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177

    Someone I know wants me to help them learn to use a new laptop they got and yes it has windows 8 on it. First thing going in is classic shell. Can you imagine trying to teach old people (around 70 yrs old) to use that OS.  They barely work the Windows XP one they had.

     

    I cannot understand how Microsoft could have been this clueless about their user base ? How could they make this arrogant decision .They deserve the failure of this OS.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910
    Originally posted by Nitth

     


    Originally posted by lizardbones

    Originally posted by syntax42 Windows 8 isn't as horrible as people make it sound.  All you need is a third-party start menu and it feels exactly the same as Windows 7 for the majority of tasks you could possibly perform.  My favorite is Classic Shell.  I used it on my work computer for a year and didn't have any problems with using the computer.   There is no real reason to upgrade to Windows 8 if you already have 7.  I imagine Windows 10 won't contain enough new features to make it worth upgrading a gaming PC.  I wouldn't be surprised if they change their licensing model, though.  I could see them doing the same thing they did with Office.  You'll have to pay a monthly fee or your computer will stop being able to update and may start locking down features.
     

     

    If Windows 8 wasn't as horrible as people make it sound, then it would have more of a market share than Windows XP.  It would at least have a comparable market share to Windows 7.  Instead, Windows 8 & Windows 8.1 has what, 12% of the available market, Win 7 has 52% of the available market and XP has 23% of the market.


     

    Windows 8 and 8.1 are much better iterations of the windows core. Its the fact that people dont like change is what is holding it down.

    I bet, if you gave them a "traditional start button" then there would be nothing but praise for this OS.

     

    Windows 8.1 has a start button.  It is 6% of that 12% of Windows 8's market share.  Still not capturing as much of the market as Windows XP.  Windows 8.1 barely captures more of the market than Windows Vista. 

     

    Speaking of the core improvements, from Windows 7 to Windows 8/8.1 they are marginal for gaming (of interest here), and invisible for everything else.  It's great that the core has improved (marginally), but that core is wrapped is a giant burrito of poop that just isn't appealing as a product.

     

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,990
    30$ to upgrade from Win 7 sounds good if it's true. Not a bad price for upgrading 5 years old OS.
     
  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910
    Originally posted by kitarad

    Someone I know wants me to help them learn to use a new laptop they got and yes it has windows 8 on it. First thing going in is classic shell. Can you imagine trying to teach old people (around 70 yrs old) to use that OS.  They barely work the Windows XP one they had.

     

    I cannot understand how Microsoft could have been this clueless about their user base ? How could they make this arrogant decision .They deserve the failure of this OS.

     

    It is possible to use Windows 8 in a manner similar to Windows 7.  Me personally, I like the 8.1 "Start" button.  It lays everything out pretty big and you just type the name of what you want and it seems to work well.  That funky "Panes" thing is weird though.  If they have a touchscreen laptop, then they might get used to it and even like it.  If not, you can turn off the "Metro" UI to get something similar to the old desktop.  Metro apps will hang around in the background forever, and some of your computer settings will look weird and won't make sense for a Desktop.  Not to mention that stupid "One Drive" integration that always default to trying to get you to save things to your One Drive folder.  But, it is possible to work around it if you don't spend too much time thinking about that stuff.

     

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  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by lizardbones
    Windows 8.1 has a start button.  It is 6% of that 12% of Windows 8's market share.  Still not capturing as much of the market as Windows XP.  Windows 8.1 barely captures more of the market than Windows Vista. 

    You know what i mean: A real start button.

    Although personally when i was using windows 8 "vanilla" I never had a problem with their start menu interface, I always typed what i'm looking for so i don't have to search through every-single-folder to find the software i wanted.

    However, even though this functionality has been in since Vista, People still want to work their way through start menu folders...
     


    Speaking of the core improvements, from Windows 7 to Windows 8/8.1 they are marginal for gaming (of interest here), and invisible for everything else.  It's great that the core has improved (marginally), but that core is wrapped is a giant burrito of poop that just isn't appealing as a product.

    The windows kernel has been trimmed and at the same time expanded making the OS faster, and more stable. The only reason it would be "Wrapped in poo" is because like i said people don't like the iteration of the start button / menu.

    As for tablet features introduced in 8: Personally I'm actually going to do a touchscreen conversion on my monitor(s) which would increase my productivity even more having both a keyboard and a direct interface with what i'm seeing on the screen. One can only hope that people have a more open mind in the future to take advantages like this.

    Also quickly, One of the biggest things that windows 8 offered was the Windows RunTime
    which Potentially enabled indy devs to create games that would run on PC's, Tablets and phones all sold under the unified marketplace which is the windows store. This is unlikely to take off now since the market has issues with 8 which a pitty.

    Conclusion? Windows 8/8.1 had/has alot going for it if people can get over that button.

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  • riclin1riclin1 Member Posts: 1
    They are calling it Windows 10, skipped 9. :)  www.cnet.com/news/windows-10-what-you-need-to-know/ 
  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910
    Originally posted by Nitth

     


    Originally posted by lizardbones
    Windows 8.1 has a start button.  It is 6% of that 12% of Windows 8's market share.  Still not capturing as much of the market as Windows XP.  Windows 8.1 barely captures more of the market than Windows Vista. 

     

    You know what i mean: A real start button.

    Although personally when i was using windows 8 "vanilla" I never had a problem with their start menu interface, I always typed what i'm looking for so i don't have to search through every-single-folder to find the software i wanted.

    However, even though this functionality has been in since Vista, People still want to work their way through start menu folders...
     

     


    Speaking of the core improvements, from Windows 7 to Windows 8/8.1 they are marginal for gaming (of interest here), and invisible for everything else.  It's great that the core has improved (marginally), but that core is wrapped is a giant burrito of poop that just isn't appealing as a product.

     

    The windows kernel has been trimmed and at the same time expanded making the OS faster, and more stable. The only reason it would be "Wrapped in poo" is because like i said people don't like the iteration of the start button / menu.

    As for tablet features introduced in 8: Personally I'm actually going to do a touchscreen conversion on my monitor(s) which would increase my productivity even more having both a keyboard and a direct interface with what i'm seeing on the screen. One can only hope that people have a more open mind in the future to take advantages like this.

    Also quickly, One of the biggest things that windows 8 offered was the Windows RunTime
    which Potentially enabled indy devs to create games that would run on PC's, Tablets and phones all sold under the unified marketplace which is the windows store. This is unlikely to take off now since the market has issues with 8 which a pitty.

    Conclusion? Windows 8/8.1 had/has alot going for it if people can get over that button.

     

    I actually like the new "Start" functionality too.  It's not that different from the old stuff and all the icons are really big, so that's good.  I would go on record as saying that is an improvement and I hope it sticks around.  It gives me less reason to clutter my desktop up with program icons.  Ditto for the icons on the app bar across the bottom of the screen.  I like the way it works.

     

    For all those under the hood changes, people are still faced with half their OS running as they expect and half their OS running in a manner they don't expect.  It's not just "that button".  The charms menu, every "Metro" app for managing your system stays running forever in the background unless you manually kill it, half your control panel apps work like standard desktop control panels and half of them work like Metro apps, and only some of those apps interact with each other.  There are many issues with Windows 8/8.1 and they are all related to usability.  Except the part where Windows 8 will start maintenance, and then never stop, even though it's not doing or going to do anything.  This particular hiccup prevents your machine from going to sleep, and the solution (get this) is to restore your system.  That's not a solution, that's a work around.  How about the hiccup where there are updates waiting for your system so it never goes to sleep, but it also never tells you there are updates waiting to install?  I guess those could be considered under "Usability" as issues too I guess.

     

    Really though, the proof is in the pudding.  If Windows 8/8.1 was "good" relative to Windows 7 or even Windows XP, it would have many more installed instances.  It doesn't.  The best thing Microsoft can do is crank out another Windows version that doesn't suck, and get people away from Windows 8/8.1 as fast as they can.  Giving the people who bought Windows 8/8.1 a copy of Windows 10 would be a cool move.  I don't believe it will happen, but it would be cool.

     

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  • botrytisbotrytis Member RarePosts: 3,363

    It is not called Windows 9 - it is called Windows 10. Nothing was said about free upgrades from Windows 7 - that is rumor only.

     


  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,981

    Windows 9 will be free for windows 8 users. And it will be invisible 0kb update.

    However we will launch Windows 10 right after. And this will not be free. How many free updates can we give after all ?

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  • evilizedevilized Member UncommonPosts: 576
    don't fall victim to the negative hype train over win 8... it's much more stable and much faster than windows 7, at least in my experience. hopefully 10 will consolidate a few things and not mess too much with the underlying architecture. 
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