A debate requires rebuttal, you have decided to circumvent the hundreds of players who have said exactly what the OP has said by calling out calendar math? Thats not a rebuttal thats a cop out.
100s of players are an extreme minority.
No game appeals to all - I am sure there are 1000s of players who hate ArcheAge, just as there are 1000s of players who hate ANY game.
That's why there are many games to pick from - find the one that you like, don't play the ones you don't - simple
Still avoiding an answer? I didnt ask to be patronized, I asked you to to answer one simple question honestly without all the beating around the bush
Are there more negative than positive posts about AA? Just answer, thats it.
So you choose to ignore the OVERWHELMING opinion of players to nit pick with semantics? Every thing in the OPs post has been commented on over and over by many, many players. And again, this is your defense, that his calendar math is wrong?
When you can't even get the most simple fact straight ??
A debate requires rebuttal, you have decided to circumvent the hundreds of players who have said exactly what the OP has said by calling out calendar math? Thats not a rebuttal thats a cop out.
Easy to debate opinion nobody wins ...when you actually can't get a fact right there is no debate you are just wrong
The way I see this game going XL and TRION are trying to squeeze everything out of the community that is playng.....by speaking with some of the beta folks nothing was fixed during beta and most of the hacks that were around then are still around now....this leads me to believe that TRION is going to let the game run as is....in hopes that it generates money....
once the threshold of cost vs. investment vs. earnings go reverse.....the serves will get merged and the inevitable will happen...
wait you are suprised by this.. one small blanket statement that "trion is working closely with XLGames to give the players what they want" didnt mean shit... i said this months ago... TRION WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CHANGE CORE GAME MECAHNICS... they are just a publisher, they pay a rental to host the game... as long as XLGames is getting paid trion and xlgames will have a close relationship, if the money stops it wont be a close relationship.
trion can do trivial things like host events, increase exp over weekends etc... things that dont matter all that much.. anything game changing or core wise has to come down from XLGames... i dont understand why this was such a hard concept for people to understand and why the fans jumped on anyone who said this and defended it saying that trion's version was going to revolutionize the game and make it so much better... LOL @ that.
Originally posted by gw1228 I was chatting with one player who I met yesterday (I am very new to the game) and he told me the only reason he is still paying is because he paid 150 dollars....yes 150 DOLLARS for the ARCHEUm pack and that is the only reason he said that hes still playing because he feels obligated to get his moneys worth....its the 2014 game that pulls the wool over your eyes.....I only lost 15.00 but if I lost 150.00 for this game I dont know what Ide do ....with that money I could buy shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, AND Witcher 3. .....what a rip off
Oh yeah you can download it for free and play it for free - what a rip off!!!
Also did Trion force anyone to pay $150 - .... I missed when they were going around cities with guns and robbing folks of their cash.
Caught trying to spin it again DMKano? Trion sold founders packs on the premise of exlcusivity. Not a damn person bout the founders pack for any other reason than getting in early enough to get land. Trion new ahead of time there wasnt enough to go around on the opening servers. They took advantage of people by leading to them to believe that buying the founders pack would get them land. You can literally go to their website and not one mention anywhere on the website is made of "limited land"
Im still waiting for that answer, are there more negative posts than positive posts about AA on this site?
Nowhere did Trion say - buy a pack and your land is 100% guaranteed
People that fail to do research on a product - it's their own damn fault
Well I bought this RV and sales guys said it had cruise control - salesman never told me it couldn't drive itself !
They took advantage of me!
Please
thats the dumbest analogy you could use.. the whole thing about the guy putting his "cruise control" on in his winnabago and going to make a coffee was because
They had it labeled as "Auto Pilot" which they do not do anymore because it was misleading, Auto Pilot would leave you to believe that your car could esentially drive itself.
Cruise Control does not give you any impression that your car will drive itself.
So you choose to ignore the OVERWHELMING opinion of players to nit pick with semantics? Every thing in the OPs post has been commented on over and over by many, many players. And again, this is your defense, that his calendar math is wrong?
When you can't even get the most simple fact straight ??
A debate requires rebuttal, you have decided to circumvent the hundreds of players who have said exactly what the OP has said by calling out calendar math? Thats not a rebuttal thats a cop out.
Easy to debate opinion nobody wins ...when you actually can't get a fact right there is no debate you are just wrong
Like I said, if you add up the negative responses on the official forums with the ones here on MMORPG.COM, there is a huge disparity between the people who say positive things and ones who say negative things. And thats not even counting the tons of deleted posts and bans on the AA forums to try and get damage control in place.
Oh and Callidor I read your post about only a small percentage of players using bots...welll
google archebuddy and you will see that if that small percentage of people in a server run that bot
it is devastating sadly it is happening right now.
I googled it - they all got banned lol
look at their ban report section - massive ban yesterday hahahah
Good job Trion!
also no.
legitimate players are also getting banned 5min of logging into the game, no bots or hacks... Trion is just banning anyone in a desperate attempt to control what they think are bots, they have no idea how to stop it or what to do.. and for all those ban reports, you think they stop... no they make new accounts it's a f2p game... so naieve
Trion should have tried to wedge DMKanos name in the title somehow. ArcheDMKanoAge, or something like that. Sorry Sir, but I keep reading so many negative posts about this game, and I commend you for trying to answer peoples opinions, but I think you may be losing the battle.
The official forums of any game somewhat reflect the State of a game. Never mind paid website reviewers critiques, I always look at what is going on in the general forums. ArcheAge general forums is full of toxic comments and the story is told there.
Funny these seem to be the same folks that wrote off GW2 ...they weren't right then and to be honest they aren't right now @ least DMKanos appears to have an opinion through experience
ah a supporter supporting another supporter, delightful. Ill ask you the same question I asked him. Are there more negative posts than positive posts out there concerning AA?
Pretty easy answer isn't it, those that are happy are playing away ....those that have a minor issue now and then are silent ....those that are bored and frustrated come to the forums and spew crap ,,,those that have a strange need for attention post over and over in the forums about games they don't even play
Trion should have tried to wedge DMKanos name in the title somehow. ArcheDMKanoAge, or something like that. Sorry Sir, but I keep reading so many negative posts about this game, and I commend you for trying to answer peoples opinions, but I think you may be losing the battle.
The official forums of any game somewhat reflect the State of a game. Never mind paid website reviewers critiques, I always look at what is going on in the general forums. ArcheAge general forums is full of toxic comments and the story is told there.
Funny these seem to be the same folks that wrote off GW2 ...they weren't right then and to be honest they aren't right now @ least DMKanos appears to have an opinion through experience
ah a supporter supporting another supporter, delightful. Ill ask you the same question I asked him. Are there more negative posts than positive posts out there concerning AA?
Pretty easy answer isn't it, those that are happy are playing away ....those that have a minor issue now and then are silent ....those that are bored and frustrated come to the forums and spew crap ,,,those that have a strange need for attention post over and over in the forums about games they don't even play
and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.
And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".
I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.
I am not a fan of this game. I don't like the flaws in the UI. But when it comes to housing and land, things are not as bad as you paint the picture. I made 4 alts and took a look at 6 servers starting areas, the first 3 maps. For those not familiar with the game, there is a unique crating table (1 or 2 per map specialty crafting). The lots next to this table are prime building locations. These prime lots are taken and full. The less prime lots, located further away, are wide open. From my inspection yesterday I would estimate that only 50% of all land is occupied.
What makes land less prime, and ignorable? At one specialty crafting table you find a crating bazaar. Here you will find a bank, AH, and crafting vendors. The 2nd table is close by but doesn't have any of these NPCs. You use the specialty crafting table to make a trade pack (TP), that debuffs you movement from run to walk (10m/s to 1m/s). A TP is worth ~5Gold (3-4.9G). Some players make 10+ TPs and store them at their farm or in front of their house. Each player can only carry 1 TP at a time. So the further you have to travel the longer it takes. The less prime a further lot is valued. There is a quest reward mount with the second TP you learn, Donkeys (4m/s vs 1/s). There are craft TP vehicles (Farm cart & Farm wagon), that let you carry 3 - 4 TP at a time. When carts & wagons are plentiful these less prime locations will be utilized more.
My point, there is plenty of land in the starting zones. BTW most starting maps have a 30+ zone (10%-20% of map), that has a specialty crafting table and building zones. I have not seen the 30+ level maps yet so I don't know what their building areas look like. But I suspect they are for Large farms and homes (Castles) and are also wide open.
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
I am not a fan of this game. I don't like the flaws in the UI. But when it comes to housing and land, things are not as bad as you paint the picture. I made 4 alts and took a look at 6 servers starting areas, the first 3 maps. For those not familiar with the game, there is a unique crating table (1 or 2 per map specialty crafting). The lots next to this table are prime building locations. These prime lots are taken and full. The less prime lots, located further away, are wide open. From my inspection yesterday I would estimate that only 50% of all land is occupied.
What makes land less prime, and ignorable? At one specialty crafting table you find a crating bazaar. Here you will find a bank, AH, and crafting vendors. The 2nd table is close by but doesn't have any of these NPCs. You use the specialty crafting table to make a trade pack (TP), that debuffs you movement from run to walk (10m/s to 1m/s). A TP is worth ~5Gold (3-4.9G). Some players make 10+ TPs and store them at their farm or in front of their house. Each player can only carry 1 TP at a time. So the further you have to travel the longer it takes. The less prime a further lot is valued. There is a quest reward mount with the second TP you learn, Donkeys (4m/s vs 1/s). There are craft TP vehicles (Farm cart & Farm wagon), that let you carry 3 - 4 TP at a time. When carts & wagons are plentiful these less prime locations will be utilized more.
My point, there is plenty of land in the starting zones. BTW most starting maps have a 30+ zone (10%-20% of map), that has a specialty crafting table and building zones. I have not seen the 30+ level maps yet so I don't know what their building areas look like. But I suspect they are for Large farms and homes (Castles) and are also wide open.
The major point you are missing Konfess, is that my guild started on one of the most populated servers. I decided to play AA solely to hang out with my guildmates from games going back 10 years.
I didnt want to start solo on a fresh server, it defeats the whole purpose of why I bought the founders pack in the first place.
I got patron for a month, just to get the feel for it. i might not resub, but that's based more on priorities. if i get a lucky jester pouch in real life ill probably put some cash in the game again.
i report all suspicious activity of bots, and if your in a danger zone and you see a character with a siren buff under their nameplate, you bloodlust, kill them and explain to the court why you killed that person if anyone actully reports it.. Trion has been working hard it seems to me, gold spammer's haven't been as bad as the earlier, still present of course. simple way is to creat a new chat box for select channels. other forms of hacking i haven't seen, iv seen videos and screen shots, but never while iv been playing.
all that aside, iv been having lots of fun, got a nice guild doing trade run's. its grindy at times, but a quarter of the my levels have been from crafting, so a f2p person would lvl slower if thats what they rely on, leveling is pretty fast compared to other games iv played.
the paywall is not very high in this game, f2p has slower labor point build up, a labor pot for 1k points 7-9gold on my server, easy to get, drink it every 12 hours, cool down of the pot is not shared between two characters but labor points are so 2k every 12 hours, get 40gold + buy apex from someone on the ah get another character slot, another potion drinker just added another 1k. solid work around for a f2p, just needs time. no access to sell in the auction house, but you can buy, so again apex then buy an ah license, then you do as much as a patron.
honestly, the game is great for free to play people, but it sorta sucks for a patron, all we can do realy is own land(and yes land is hard to come by, annoyingly so), thats a safe way to farm of course, but most people just set up a farm in a hidden spot, risky but can be rewarding. it feels like a big ripoff to someone whos paying money. i can see how people who paid for ealry access feel like they got cheated. unless trion goes around buring down houses they cant fix houses as they are now. but what they could and should do, is set up plots of land just for people who bought in early, and that they can only own one house or farm on that plot. there are some realy nice places in the game that are empty but seem like premo spots to set up a house, great views and such.
to sum up.
get a guild you like, help them and they will help you, in this game you need them to get things done faster and with less heartache or frustration.
great f2p game, do everything a patron can with out spending money, just work hard and spend time.
Subscription game... eh.. its ok...houses...insta auction house access... yeah, a little faster in gaining labor, especially while offline. nothing realy comes to mind as like a real bonus that cant be over came by a f2p person.
the game probably wont be very diffrent when my sub is over. how will trion make money when a f2p can work towords getting enough gold to have the same things as a patron?? idk, but yay for f2p ppl
Originally posted by gw1228 I was chatting with one player who I met yesterday (I am very new to the game) and he told me the only reason he is still paying is because he paid 150 dollars....yes 150 DOLLARS for the ARCHEUm pack and that is the only reason he said that hes still playing because he feels obligated to get his moneys worth....its the 2014 game that pulls the wool over your eyes.....I only lost 15.00 but if I lost 150.00 for this game I dont know what Ide do ....with that money I could buy shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, AND Witcher 3. .....what a rip off
Trion tried to tell me that a refund was "outside of their refund policies" I spent 20 hours in queue for the game and customer service on the early start weekend, and they tried to run off with my money. Thankfully my credit card compnay said thats BS and gave me the chargeback.
definitely BS i got my refund last week,had to ask for it a couple times but i got it!
Originally posted by gw1228 I was chatting with one player who I met yesterday (I am very new to the game) and he told me the only reason he is still paying is because he paid 150 dollars....yes 150 DOLLARS for the ARCHEUm pack and that is the only reason he said that hes still playing because he feels obligated to get his moneys worth....its the 2014 game that pulls the wool over your eyes.....I only lost 15.00 but if I lost 150.00 for this game I dont know what Ide do ....with that money I could buy shadows of mordor, dragon age inquisition, AND Witcher 3. .....what a rip off
Trion tried to tell me that a refund was "outside of their refund policies" I spent 20 hours in queue for the game and customer service on the early start weekend, and they tried to run off with my money. Thankfully my credit card compnay said thats BS and gave me the chargeback.
definitely BS i got my refund last week,had to ask for it a couple times but i got it!
Youre one of the lucky ones, I envy you. lol. I still cannot wrap my mind around how they would treat a loyal customer of several years that way. Was refunding my money worth all the money I would have spend in the future? Worse yet, I rather miss playing Rift, but I refuse to ever put another dollar in Trions pocket after this.
Someday, folks will learn that Asian grinders, even ones dressed to be USA supported, are still no better (just prettier) than a Facebook game.
I personally think the genre is just dead. There are some nice solo games out there, however and buying a PS4 isn't a bad idea anymore either if you were once a PC gamer.
But I come from old school Dark Age of Camelot and was a fan of WoW long before the cheese filled later expansions came out. This genre was so rich in thought back in the late 90s early 2000s. After that it's been one shut down or failure or F2P cash shop after another.
Someday, folks will learn that Asian grinders, even ones dressed to be USA supported, are still no better (just prettier) than a Facebook game.
I personally think the genre is just dead. There are some nice solo games out there, however and buying a PS4 isn't a bad idea anymore either if you were once a PC gamer.
But I come from old school Dark Age of Camelot and was a fan of WoW long before the cheese filled later expansions came out. This genre was so rich in thought back in the late 90s early 2000s. After that it's been one shut down or failure or F2P cash shop after another.
I think this game is easily a 9/10. Honestly. However, the current state of the community is bringing the game down to the 3.7 metacritic user score. It is crazy that TRION is THIS terrible with hackers. The hackers are so much worse here than NWO and that was TERRIBLE! However, as the cycle goes, as soon as the next big game comes out, the hackers will drop exponentially for each major release after. In a few months, I think this game will get a lot closer to what I believe is a 9/10 potential. I'm waiting for TRION to get a handle before I get serious and go patron.
For now, I am really enjoying exploring the game, learning it, and just having a INCREDIBLY wonderful casual experience. It's a shame that these a-hole hackers exsist and ruin the economy, and game balance for the more hardcore players. TRION really needs to get on it. Totally unacceptable, but IMO this game has serious potential if TRION can get a grasp on the exploitative community.
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.
And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".
I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.
You still havent answered my simple question.
See the problem is in your case I called a spade a spade ....you have an agenda since you feel wronged (for that I'm sorry) but in some strange twist of things you feel justified in trying to ruin the gaming experience of other because of your own experience . If Trion pulled BS with you take it up with Trion ...my opinion is no better than your opinion and that's a fact ...but when you start twisting facts to serve your self at the expense of other ....You should be called out and "that is a fact"
and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.
And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".
I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.
You still havent answered my simple question.
See the problem is in your case I called a spade a spade ....you have an agenda since you feel wronged (for that I'm sorry) but in some strange twist of things you feel justified in trying to ruin the gaming experience of other because of your own experience . If Trion pulled BS with you take it up with Trion ...my opinion is no better than your opinion and that's a fact ...but when you start twisting facts to serve your self at the expense of other ....You should be called out and "that is a fact"
I base my opinion on what other people have said as well. You refuse to believe for a moment that your game is anything but perfect, you try to debunk obvious problems the game has with terrible arguments. Trust me when I say though, the cat is out of the bag, no matter how much you choose to ignore to the problems with AA because you are a fan, no one is buying that bull anymore, the public has spoken.
and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.
And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".
I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.
You still havent answered my simple question.
See the problem is in your case I called a spade a spade ....you have an agenda since you feel wronged (for that I'm sorry) but in some strange twist of things you feel justified in trying to ruin the gaming experience of other because of your own experience . If Trion pulled BS with you take it up with Trion ...my opinion is no better than your opinion and that's a fact ...but when you start twisting facts to serve your self at the expense of other ....You should be called out and "that is a fact"
I base my opinion on what other people have said as well. You refuse to believe for a moment that your game is anything but perfect, you try to debunk obvious problems the game has with terrible arguments. Trust me when I say though, the cat is out of the bag, no matter how much you choose to ignore to the problems with AA because you are a fan, no one is buying that bull anymore, the public has spoken.
Just cruious, how has the public spoken? By continueing to line up multi hour Queues?
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
I don't know,it seems like every mmo site out there thinks this game is the bee's knee's or something. Go to any one of them and its like the greatest game ever made or something. No way the game could have flaws.
and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.
And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".
I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.
You still havent answered my simple question.
See the problem is in your case I called a spade a spade ....you have an agenda since you feel wronged (for that I'm sorry) but in some strange twist of things you feel justified in trying to ruin the gaming experience of other because of your own experience . If Trion pulled BS with you take it up with Trion ...my opinion is no better than your opinion and that's a fact ...but when you start twisting facts to serve your self at the expense of other ....You should be called out and "that is a fact"
I base my opinion on what other people have said as well. You refuse to believe for a moment that your game is anything but perfect, you try to debunk obvious problems the game has with terrible arguments. Trust me when I say though, the cat is out of the bag, no matter how much you choose to ignore to the problems with AA because you are a fan, no one is buying that bull anymore, the public has spoken.
Just cruious, how has the public spoken? By continueing to line up multi hour Queues?
Its a F2p game, no mystery there. Id love to see the exact number of refunds and chargebacks AA has generated. Its the first MMO in 15 years where Ive gotten a chargeback and a number of people have said they got refunds too. hell it took me 6 hours in the Customer service queue on the headstart weekend just to talk to to someone about a refund.
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Eww, that wasn't a good example...global warming is silly hoax.
Still avoiding an answer? I didnt ask to be patronized, I asked you to to answer one simple question honestly without all the beating around the bush
Are there more negative than positive posts about AA? Just answer, thats it.
Easy to debate opinion nobody wins ...when you actually can't get a fact right there is no debate you are just wrong
wait you are suprised by this.. one small blanket statement that "trion is working closely with XLGames to give the players what they want" didnt mean shit... i said this months ago... TRION WILL NOT BE ABLE TO CHANGE CORE GAME MECAHNICS... they are just a publisher, they pay a rental to host the game... as long as XLGames is getting paid trion and xlgames will have a close relationship, if the money stops it wont be a close relationship.
trion can do trivial things like host events, increase exp over weekends etc... things that dont matter all that much.. anything game changing or core wise has to come down from XLGames... i dont understand why this was such a hard concept for people to understand and why the fans jumped on anyone who said this and defended it saying that trion's version was going to revolutionize the game and make it so much better... LOL @ that.
thats the dumbest analogy you could use.. the whole thing about the guy putting his "cruise control" on in his winnabago and going to make a coffee was because
They had it labeled as "Auto Pilot" which they do not do anymore because it was misleading, Auto Pilot would leave you to believe that your car could esentially drive itself.
Cruise Control does not give you any impression that your car will drive itself.
Like I said, if you add up the negative responses on the official forums with the ones here on MMORPG.COM, there is a huge disparity between the people who say positive things and ones who say negative things. And thats not even counting the tons of deleted posts and bans on the AA forums to try and get damage control in place.
also no.
legitimate players are also getting banned 5min of logging into the game, no bots or hacks... Trion is just banning anyone in a desperate attempt to control what they think are bots, they have no idea how to stop it or what to do.. and for all those ban reports, you think they stop... no they make new accounts it's a f2p game... so naieve
Pretty easy answer isn't it, those that are happy are playing away ....those that have a minor issue now and then are silent ....those that are bored and frustrated come to the forums and spew crap ,,,those that have a strange need for attention post over and over in the forums about games they don't even play
and yet here you and Dmkano, AAs most staunch supporters, defending it on just about every negative post here. From what I can tell, sir, and I use the term loosely, there are many people waiting in queues with nothing better to do than post here.
And for your information Trion pulled BS with me. I was a customer for years, and they tried to take my money and tell me a refund was "outside the refund policy" When I told them they were going to lose a loyal customer, they said "oh well".
I had to get a chargeback on my credit card after spending more than 20 hours in queue on head start weekend. You can damn well bet I dont let any business Ive been loyal to try and take advantage of me without consequence.
You still havent answered my simple question.
I am not a fan of this game. I don't like the flaws in the UI. But when it comes to housing and land, things are not as bad as you paint the picture. I made 4 alts and took a look at 6 servers starting areas, the first 3 maps. For those not familiar with the game, there is a unique crating table (1 or 2 per map specialty crafting). The lots next to this table are prime building locations. These prime lots are taken and full. The less prime lots, located further away, are wide open. From my inspection yesterday I would estimate that only 50% of all land is occupied.
What makes land less prime, and ignorable? At one specialty crafting table you find a crating bazaar. Here you will find a bank, AH, and crafting vendors. The 2nd table is close by but doesn't have any of these NPCs. You use the specialty crafting table to make a trade pack (TP), that debuffs you movement from run to walk (10m/s to 1m/s). A TP is worth ~5Gold (3-4.9G). Some players make 10+ TPs and store them at their farm or in front of their house. Each player can only carry 1 TP at a time. So the further you have to travel the longer it takes. The less prime a further lot is valued. There is a quest reward mount with the second TP you learn, Donkeys (4m/s vs 1/s). There are craft TP vehicles (Farm cart & Farm wagon), that let you carry 3 - 4 TP at a time. When carts & wagons are plentiful these less prime locations will be utilized more.
My point, there is plenty of land in the starting zones. BTW most starting maps have a 30+ zone (10%-20% of map), that has a specialty crafting table and building zones. I have not seen the 30+ level maps yet so I don't know what their building areas look like. But I suspect they are for Large farms and homes (Castles) and are also wide open.
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
The major point you are missing Konfess, is that my guild started on one of the most populated servers. I decided to play AA solely to hang out with my guildmates from games going back 10 years.
I didnt want to start solo on a fresh server, it defeats the whole purpose of why I bought the founders pack in the first place.
I got patron for a month, just to get the feel for it. i might not resub, but that's based more on priorities. if i get a lucky jester pouch in real life ill probably put some cash in the game again.
i report all suspicious activity of bots, and if your in a danger zone and you see a character with a siren buff under their nameplate, you bloodlust, kill them and explain to the court why you killed that person if anyone actully reports it.. Trion has been working hard it seems to me, gold spammer's haven't been as bad as the earlier, still present of course. simple way is to creat a new chat box for select channels. other forms of hacking i haven't seen, iv seen videos and screen shots, but never while iv been playing.
all that aside, iv been having lots of fun, got a nice guild doing trade run's. its grindy at times, but a quarter of the my levels have been from crafting, so a f2p person would lvl slower if thats what they rely on, leveling is pretty fast compared to other games iv played.
the paywall is not very high in this game, f2p has slower labor point build up, a labor pot for 1k points 7-9gold on my server, easy to get, drink it every 12 hours, cool down of the pot is not shared between two characters but labor points are so 2k every 12 hours, get 40gold + buy apex from someone on the ah get another character slot, another potion drinker just added another 1k. solid work around for a f2p, just needs time. no access to sell in the auction house, but you can buy, so again apex then buy an ah license, then you do as much as a patron.
honestly, the game is great for free to play people, but it sorta sucks for a patron, all we can do realy is own land(and yes land is hard to come by, annoyingly so), thats a safe way to farm of course, but most people just set up a farm in a hidden spot, risky but can be rewarding. it feels like a big ripoff to someone whos paying money. i can see how people who paid for ealry access feel like they got cheated. unless trion goes around buring down houses they cant fix houses as they are now. but what they could and should do, is set up plots of land just for people who bought in early, and that they can only own one house or farm on that plot. there are some realy nice places in the game that are empty but seem like premo spots to set up a house, great views and such.
to sum up.
get a guild you like, help them and they will help you, in this game you need them to get things done faster and with less heartache or frustration.
great f2p game, do everything a patron can with out spending money, just work hard and spend time.
Subscription game... eh.. its ok...houses...insta auction house access... yeah, a little faster in gaining labor, especially while offline. nothing realy comes to mind as like a real bonus that cant be over came by a f2p person.
the game probably wont be very diffrent when my sub is over. how will trion make money when a f2p can work towords getting enough gold to have the same things as a patron?? idk, but yay for f2p ppl
definitely BS i got my refund last week,had to ask for it a couple times but i got it!
Youre one of the lucky ones, I envy you. lol. I still cannot wrap my mind around how they would treat a loyal customer of several years that way. Was refunding my money worth all the money I would have spend in the future? Worse yet, I rather miss playing Rift, but I refuse to ever put another dollar in Trions pocket after this.
Someday, folks will learn that Asian grinders, even ones dressed to be USA supported, are still no better (just prettier) than a Facebook game.
I personally think the genre is just dead. There are some nice solo games out there, however and buying a PS4 isn't a bad idea anymore either if you were once a PC gamer.
But I come from old school Dark Age of Camelot and was a fan of WoW long before the cheese filled later expansions came out. This genre was so rich in thought back in the late 90s early 2000s. After that it's been one shut down or failure or F2P cash shop after another.
I wish I could disagree with any of your points.
I think this game is easily a 9/10. Honestly. However, the current state of the community is bringing the game down to the 3.7 metacritic user score. It is crazy that TRION is THIS terrible with hackers. The hackers are so much worse here than NWO and that was TERRIBLE! However, as the cycle goes, as soon as the next big game comes out, the hackers will drop exponentially for each major release after. In a few months, I think this game will get a lot closer to what I believe is a 9/10 potential. I'm waiting for TRION to get a handle before I get serious and go patron.
For now, I am really enjoying exploring the game, learning it, and just having a INCREDIBLY wonderful casual experience. It's a shame that these a-hole hackers exsist and ruin the economy, and game balance for the more hardcore players. TRION really needs to get on it. Totally unacceptable, but IMO this game has serious potential if TRION can get a grasp on the exploitative community.
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
See the problem is in your case I called a spade a spade ....you have an agenda since you feel wronged (for that I'm sorry) but in some strange twist of things you feel justified in trying to ruin the gaming experience of other because of your own experience . If Trion pulled BS with you take it up with Trion ...my opinion is no better than your opinion and that's a fact ...but when you start twisting facts to serve your self at the expense of other ....You should be called out and "that is a fact"
I base my opinion on what other people have said as well. You refuse to believe for a moment that your game is anything but perfect, you try to debunk obvious problems the game has with terrible arguments. Trust me when I say though, the cat is out of the bag, no matter how much you choose to ignore to the problems with AA because you are a fan, no one is buying that bull anymore, the public has spoken.
Just cruious, how has the public spoken? By continueing to line up multi hour Queues?
If I want a world in which people can purchase success and power with cash, I'll play Real Life. Keep Virtual Worlds Virtual!
Its a F2p game, no mystery there. Id love to see the exact number of refunds and chargebacks AA has generated. Its the first MMO in 15 years where Ive gotten a chargeback and a number of people have said they got refunds too. hell it took me 6 hours in the Customer service queue on the headstart weekend just to talk to to someone about a refund.
Mind telling us how?
Since patron status (even for the lowest pack) doesn't even end until 11/16... don't see how you would even be subbing atm