I'm keeping it going because I like seeing what he comes up with as he tries to dig himself out of a hole or how to try and weasel away from answering the actual question.
We've done this song and dance in the past and I know it makes me laugh some of the things he comes up with.
To repost again what i already said above:
@GeezerGamer had a point and i clarified the post he was referring to .... and I see he already saw the clarification --> "BUT.......... to his credit, he did admit to having misspoke.......so I am not sure why this continues. "
You - @Kefo - do not. For the reasons given above.
Have fun
Hey if @GeezerGamer is happy with your clarification then that's fine with me.
Im personally calling you out that what you said isn't a fact based on the definition you posted. Like I said earlier if you just admitted you had no way to prove it I would have moved on but now it's just funny watching you trying to deflect away from answering.
It's not that I'm happy with it....I just know it's a waste of time trying continue.
You ask about point "A". Next thing you know, you are arguing with him over whether or not Point "D" is a fact and Point "C" isn't verifiable. Skipping completely over point "B".
"But, what about point "A"?"
"I already proved point "D"! What are you talking about?"
Which is why I keep reminding him of point A (my point A since yours is slightly different) and then watching to see what he comes up with next
Here's the other side of his coin I was waiting to bring up. He's implying they are EVE players. And I believe they are. .I do really. But he went on to indicate their motivation. That's where I question him. He's indicating they are selling to make a few extra bucks on the SC ship after-market. But I'll throw it out there, asking what makes you so sure they aren't EVE players trying to bail out of what might become a bad investment while they still can?
I understand you are referring to this post :
"In my personal opinion: "They" are not CIG. "They" are EVE players
out for a quick buck by essentially "gambling" on price changes like
some people do on the stock market.
This opinion is based on 14
years experience with my fellow EVE players and that many of them are
ready to do anything to gain an advantage in EVE or other games in which
they do their metagaming across game boundaries."
The following is my personal opinion (without that remark @Kefo would write another 20 posts ;-)
The Star Citizen ship "grey market" has already been mentioned/explained years ago e.g. 2013-10-09
If one does understand that the TMC website (The Mittani) consists of 95 % articles on EVE Online and some additional gaming news it becomes clear that the target audience for the article was mostly EVE players.
Back in 2013 there was no talk to speak off about "bail outs" or delays or bad investments (well, with the notable exception of our resident "special case" jcrg99 ....)
So i doubt that the EVE players - gaming the grey market based on The Mittani's article (author:by Hendrick Tallardar) - did and do it to bail out of anything. Of those EVE players i know to be involved in the SC grey market ALL did and do it for monetary reasons. Especially considering the margins. You find an example in the article: "Similarly, people are charging over $2000 for the Idris-P and Idris-M Corvettes,
the largest and most expensive ships sold thus far. 100 Idris-M and 150
Idris-P's were sold for $1000 and $1250 respectively during a 24 hour
live stream back in July."
As the author of the article said: "Star Citizen is filled with the hopes
and dreams of many space faring video game enthusiasts. It is also
filled with people who are more than happy to exploit that enthusiasm
for their own real world monetary gains."
In my experience only a very few SC backers do that. But they do exist. The ones i know about all came from EVE - and then only members of large alliances.
Again .. this is my personal experience .... your mileage may vary.
Well I get why people with so much money hanging out to dry is a bit on the edge ..
Not sure what you mean exactly.
Actually, I should note, because you were mentioning Elite Dangerous previously, that the average backer of E:D actually spent $95, during the ED KS, compared to the average spend of a SC backer which is $92.
As far as people getting up in arms. Well, there are just plenty more fans of SC than any other game ever funded through KS. Similarly, there are an equal number of people fanatically opposing the game.
Similarly, there are an equal number of people fanatically opposing the game.
I think this is an erroneous perception caused by the amount of noise a few people made, which was then amplified by some opportunists looking to increase their click numbers. The idea of opposing a video game doesn't make any rational sense, so there is another agenda or two at work.
There is no reason for an actual fan of video gaming to oppose any game coming out. Too much zero sum thinking going on.
Similarly, there are an equal number of people fanatically opposing the game.
I think this is an erroneous perception caused by the amount of noise a few people made, which was then amplified by some opportunists looking to increase their click numbers. The idea of opposing a video game doesn't make any rational sense, so there is another agenda or two at work.
There is no reason for an actual fan of video gaming to oppose any game coming out. Too much zero sum thinking going on.
Don't forget about people who are not opposed to the game, who actually do want this game to be released, but due to recent developments, have determined there is at least enough cause to be cautious and/or a little suspicious who just want to make sure that what's being discussed is as objective and accurate as possible.
I just find impressive about SHIP pipeline and not Game Pipeline but well somes like keep buy ships and forget work out after game release But dont mind after all its you money you time
As far as people getting up in arms. Well, there are just plenty more fans of SC than any other game ever funded through KS. Similarly, there are an equal number of people fanatically opposing the game.
Didn't Elite raise more money through Kickstarter than SC? I can't remember... Anyway, the whole source of SC's money is the fact that they never stopped their crowdfunded campaign. Most games stop when they reach their asking development funding (and then just sell the game), SC never did. It's like having a kickstarter campaign for 3+ years and continually bringing in new in-game stuff that people can pledge/buy.
Theres a dude spamming in jita right now. Go do some fact checking.
Thank you.
I am at work right now but will check once i am back at home.
Did you remember the name of the pilot ? And did he use his own SC referral code in his ad spam ? With the name I can put him on my watch list and see when he comes online again.
I just find impressive about SHIP pipeline and not Game Pipeline but well somes like keep buy ships and forget work out after game release But dont mind after all its you money you time
Because there's already 100+ videos, daily, weekly and monthly updates, but lets ignore that, research is for nubs :awesome:
Similarly, there are an equal number of people fanatically opposing the game.
I think this is an erroneous perception caused by the amount of noise a few people made, which was then amplified by some opportunists looking to increase their click numbers. The idea of opposing a video game doesn't make any rational sense, so there is another agenda or two at work.
There is no reason for an actual fan of video gaming to oppose any game coming out. Too much zero sum thinking going on.
I don't necessarily think it's erroneous. I think that the fanatical on either end of the spectrum are the exception, not the rule. I believe that there are people who are willing to acknowledge that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, opposed to believing it must be the worst or best case scenario (which is almost never the case)
Oh and @GeezerGamer , I totally agree and already said before I don't blame you for not putting money into the game at this point. I think there are plenty of fence-sitters, for sure, and for good reason. Actually, if there was smoking-gun evidence of some of the more serious implications, I would be very disappointed and I'd probably never play the game, just on principle.
As far as your comment @sgel you're totally right, E:D raised more than SC. SC only got large when their post-KS campaign began and the scope of the game became ever-growing and unmanageable. On a straigh KS comparison, E:D, by far, beat SC on $$$ per backer. Oh, it should also be noted that E:D didn't deliver a single-player module as promised in their campaign, either. So as far as delivering goes, I know that was a big deal for some people.
Do game companies hire people like Erillion to do PR for them on game forums? Serious question.
Yes they do. Especially many of the "new thought" companies of the social media age allocate a good chunk of resources to do this kinda marketting.
But they dont just directly send their minions to spam forums though, its a far more elaborate process than what meets the eye.
For the sake of argument lets take a completely fictional and theoretical hardworking shill called "Shillion" (created from the words Shill + cullion: an unsavory person or Mr. Bollocks). This imaginary character called Shillion, will be the primary point of approach. And to back him up they will also send some over-the-top shills (for the sake of this explanation, lets call one such shill, user123).
So Shillion comes down to forums such as this, or some other game forum or some microblogging site and starts creating multiple threads every time the parent company (for example: The church of the Holy See-itizen) wants to get some free, viral advertisement balls rolling. As annoying as the advert spams are though, the Shillion character remains civil, deflects direct questions in order keep his nose clean and also dumps a whole ton of irrelevant material on the forums, so if there even is any truth in the marketing...its all lost under a well constructed pile of misinformation.
But thats not all, the other guys (user123, user456, user567, etc) also come down and start spamming the advert-threads with over-the-top fanboy posts. The motive behind such postings are to purposefully make these posters look like nutjobs who are highly invested in the project / marketed product. But more importantly, its to make the Shillion character's posts look more "tame", "knowledgeable" and believable when put directly besides the crazy deranged ramblings of the apparent-fanboy:anti-competitor, "user" shills.
And thats not all, many a times companies also outsource freelancer shills from cheaper pay regions. For a gig which may pay 1 USD for 500 words, companies mainly hire Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Indians to help in such marketing efforts.
And like I said before, this happens everywhere. Amazon reviews, app store reviews, facebook followers... and in this instance, viral marketing for a video game with big numbers like ONE MILLION!!!11ONE!!11111 to show a brave front of success and accomplishment, while the truth might be anything but.
Since it was a serious question, I thought I should reply with all the information at my disposal. Now though, you`ll find all the Shillion and User characters calling me out on this post, but honestly this form of marketing is no well kept industry secret. Unlike The Escapist, I can actually drop names on employees and employers who do this kinda marketing. But then again...what do I gain from doing that...And more importantly, why do I even need to do that when anyone reading through the Star Citizen forums here will be able to see exactly what Im talking about
Fave Hun, ok?
EDIT: And sometimes, you`ll just see the obvious: devs/mods telling their fanatics to go to xyz forum and start a forum war against anyone bad mouthing their game. Funny part is that, they sometimes do it right in the public eye for everyone to see the white-knight rally chant ( example Mortal Online).
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I was banned for pointing out the obvious faults in a game 2 months before it released. Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
Just buy them in game with in game money once the game is in the stores. No one forces you to buy them NOW. No one holds a gun to your head and screams BUY NOW OR ELSE .....
Have fun
No but it is just like Casinos they USED to be a lot tougher when came to opening them because people cannot control themselves,that is why MOST laws are in place because people need to be reminded of the issues.
Judging by how much money this game has already got ,i would say it still holds true,people are terrible when comes to spending money.I bet there are MANY players if we can call them a player since there is no game yet,have already bought 5+ ships.You can only fly one but their compulsive spending disorder makes them think they need to have every ship if possible.I wouldn't even doubt players will own 10+ ships before the game goes live.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I understand what you mean but by your logic everyone needs only one pair of shoes because that's all they can use at one time, or they only need one in game character because you can only use one at a time.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I understand what you mean but by your logic everyone needs only one pair of shoes because that's all they can use at one time, or they only need one in game character because you can only use one at a time.
The problem with what he is saying is that I understand what he means.
Do game companies hire people like Erillion to do PR for them on game forums? Serious question.
Yes they do. Especially many of the "new thought" companies of the social media age allocate a good chunk of resources to do this kinda marketting.
But they dont just directly send their minions to spam forums though, its a far more elaborate process than what meets the eye.
For the sake of argument lets take a completely fictional and theoretical hardworking shill called "Shillion" (created from the words Shill + cullion: an unsavory person or Mr. Bollocks). This imaginary character called Shillion, will be the primary point of approach. And to back him up they will also send some over-the-top shills (for the sake of this explanation, lets call one such shill, user123).
So Shillion comes down to forums such as this, or some other game forum or some microblogging site and starts creating multiple threads every time the parent company (for example: The church of the Holy See-itizen) wants to get some free, viral advertisement balls rolling. As annoying as the advert spams are though, the Shillion character remains civil, deflects direct questions in order keep his nose clean and also dumps a whole ton of irrelevant material on the forums, so if there even is any truth in the marketing...its all lost under a well constructed pile of misinformation.
But thats not all, the other guys (user123, user456, user567, etc) also come down and start spamming the advert-threads with over-the-top fanboy posts. The motive behind such postings are to purposefully make these posters look like nutjobs who are highly invested in the project / marketed product. But more importantly, its to make the Shillion character's posts look more "tame", "knowledgeable" and believable when put directly besides the crazy deranged ramblings of the apparent-fanboy:anti-competitor, "user" shills.
And thats not all, many a times companies also outsource freelancer shills from cheaper pay regions. For a gig which may pay 1 USD for 500 words, companies mainly hire Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Indians to help in such marketing efforts.
And like I said before, this happens everywhere. Amazon reviews, app store reviews, facebook followers... and in this instance, viral marketing for a video game with big numbers like ONE MILLION!!!11ONE!!11111 to show a brave front of success and accomplishment, while the truth might be anything but.
Since it was a serious question, I thought I should reply with all the information at my disposal. Now though, you`ll find all the Shillion and User characters calling me out on this post, but honestly this form of marketing is no well kept industry secret. Unlike The Escapist, I can actually drop names on employees and employers who do this kinda marketing. But then again...what do I gain from doing that...And more importantly, why do I even need to do that when anyone reading through the Star Citizen forums here will be able to see exactly what Im talking about
Fave Hun, ok?
EDIT: And sometimes, you`ll just see the obvious: devs/mods telling their fanatics to go to xyz forum and start a forum war against anyone bad mouthing their game. Funny part is that, they sometimes do it right in the public eye for everyone to see the white-knight rally chant ( example Mortal Online).
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
While it is not forbidden in the Empire for humans to fly around in Vanduul ships adapted for human use (Scythe, Glaive) it seems to be an unhealthy habit according to this article.
Seems nothing has really changed, still selling ships and the game is no where in site. Really have to laugh at this.
Roberts needs to bring people in from Origin to make him stop look listen and have others help him finish the game. After all that is what happened with WC and FL!
A video showing the recovery operation of a Retaliator bomber escape pod. The music reminds me very much of the "2001" music from the end of the movie. I like the video, with the sunrise over the bright blue planet as the backdrop.
Seems nothing has really changed, still selling ships and the game is no where in site. Really have to laugh at this.
Roberts needs to bring people in from Origin to make him stop look listen and have others help him finish the game. After all that is what happened with WC and FL!
Nice catch, hadn't seen that before. Pretty much reinforced my opinion that Roberts is marketing this brilliantly, but is still an impediment to the design and development. There will be a lot of waste and delay due to his egomania, but the team may still be able to deliver a game. Won't be what's sold to the fans now though.
In part due to things like Roberts' gushing love of basically unimportant bits like 'catching the blood flow on the skin in the mocap'. Will that could be technically impressive, it is likely to have little to no effect on the game.
The article did point out some of their techniques of fishing for whales. Pretty informative the each time a 'Look what's New!' posting shows up here.
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"In my personal opinion:
"They" are not CIG. "They" are EVE players out for a quick buck by essentially "gambling" on price changes like some people do on the stock market.
This opinion is based on 14 years experience with my fellow EVE players and that many of them are ready to do anything to gain an advantage in EVE or other games in which they do their metagaming across game boundaries."
The following is my personal opinion (without that remark @Kefo would write another 20 posts ;-)
The Star Citizen ship "grey market" has already been mentioned/explained years ago e.g. 2013-10-09
https://www.themittani.com/features/star-citizens-grey-market?nopaging=1
If one does understand that the TMC website (The Mittani) consists of 95 % articles on EVE Online and some additional gaming news it becomes clear that the target audience for the article was mostly EVE players.
Back in 2013 there was no talk to speak off about "bail outs" or delays or bad investments (well, with the notable exception of our resident "special case" jcrg99 ....)
So i doubt that the EVE players - gaming the grey market based on The Mittani's article (author:by Hendrick Tallardar) - did and do it to bail out of anything. Of those EVE players i know to be involved in the SC grey market ALL did and do it for monetary reasons. Especially considering the margins. You find an example in the article:
"Similarly, people are charging over $2000 for the Idris-P and Idris-M Corvettes, the largest and most expensive ships sold thus far. 100 Idris-M and 150 Idris-P's were sold for $1000 and $1250 respectively during a 24 hour live stream back in July."
As the author of the article said:
"Star Citizen is filled with the hopes and dreams of many space faring video game enthusiasts. It is also filled with people who are more than happy to exploit that enthusiasm for their own real world monetary gains."
In my experience only a very few SC backers do that. But they do exist. The ones i know about all came from EVE - and then only members of large alliances.
Again .. this is my personal experience .... your mileage may vary.
Have fun
Actually, I should note, because you were mentioning Elite Dangerous previously, that the average backer of E:D actually spent $95, during the ED KS, compared to the average spend of a SC backer which is $92.
As far as people getting up in arms. Well, there are just plenty more fans of SC than any other game ever funded through KS. Similarly, there are an equal number of people fanatically opposing the game.
Crazkanuk
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I think this is an erroneous perception caused by the amount of noise a few people made, which was then amplified by some opportunists looking to increase their click numbers. The idea of opposing a video game doesn't make any rational sense, so there is another agenda or two at work.
There is no reason for an actual fan of video gaming to oppose any game coming out. Too much zero sum thinking going on.
But dont mind after all its you money
you time
..Cake..
I logged in when I came home and watched Jita local since 17:02
Its now 18:50 in Jita and so far no Star Citzen recruitment SPAM to be seen. Current chat message is:
[18:50:38] 6yxou Kapu6ac > <url=contract:30000142//98084838>2 PLEX for 2.35 Bil</url>
I invite anyone who wants to check for SC recruitment spam to log into EVE and check out Jita local chat. You can verify if I speak the truth or not.
I am still listening and will modify this post when I log out again.........
Its now 19:21 in Jita and so far no Star Citzen recruitment SPAM to be seen. Current chat message is:
[19:21:25] phil cook > FW LP CASHOUT
Logging out of EVE now.
In summary ..... did not hear any Star Citizen recruitment SPAM in Jita local in the specified time period.
Have fun
PS:
Upside ... made 400 mil ISK on the market while waiting ;-)
PPS: Excerpt of ongoing Jita local chat (1680 people in local)
[18:55:39] MrCrackerHD > bounty means nothing
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[18:58:29] Tenshi Susumebachi > .<br>╔═[The next SOMER BLINK]<br>╠►2.5 Trillion isk already awarded!
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[19:04:20] Stetson McCathy > 1,18 BILLION (200m off) for Megathron BP + Items <url=contract:30000142//97898138>[Multiple Items]</url>
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[19:14:36] WrATH2Zero > <url=contract:30000142//98086093>[Multiple Items]</url> Rigged Golem - 1.2 billion, 30 million less than market price
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[19:19:53] Kira Kasumi > <url=contract:30001385//98030976>[CCC Moros]</url> <url=contract:30001385//98030947>[Hyperspatial Thanatos]</url>
....
I don't necessarily think it's erroneous. I think that the fanatical on either end of the spectrum are the exception, not the rule. I believe that there are people who are willing to acknowledge that the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle, opposed to believing it must be the worst or best case scenario (which is almost never the case)
Oh and @GeezerGamer , I totally agree and already said before I don't blame you for not putting money into the game at this point. I think there are plenty of fence-sitters, for sure, and for good reason. Actually, if there was smoking-gun evidence of some of the more serious implications, I would be very disappointed and I'd probably never play the game, just on principle.
As far as your comment @sgel you're totally right, E:D raised more than SC. SC only got large when their post-KS campaign began and the scope of the game became ever-growing and unmanageable. On a straigh KS comparison, E:D, by far, beat SC on $$$ per backer. Oh, it should also be noted that E:D didn't deliver a single-player module as promised in their campaign, either. So as far as delivering goes, I know that was a big deal for some people.
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But they dont just directly send their minions to spam forums though, its a far more elaborate process than what meets the eye.
For the sake of argument lets take a completely fictional and theoretical hardworking shill called "Shillion" (created from the words Shill + cullion: an unsavory person or Mr. Bollocks).
This imaginary character called Shillion, will be the primary point of approach. And to back him up they will also send some over-the-top shills (for the sake of this explanation, lets call one such shill, user123).
So Shillion comes down to forums such as this, or some other game forum or some microblogging site and starts creating multiple threads every time the parent company (for example: The church of the Holy See-itizen) wants to get some free, viral advertisement balls rolling. As annoying as the advert spams are though, the Shillion character remains civil, deflects direct questions in order keep his nose clean and also dumps a whole ton of irrelevant material on the forums, so if there even is any truth in the marketing...its all lost under a well constructed pile of misinformation.
But thats not all, the other guys (user123, user456, user567, etc) also come down and start spamming the advert-threads with over-the-top fanboy posts. The motive behind such postings are to purposefully make these posters look like nutjobs who are highly invested in the project / marketed product. But more importantly, its to make the Shillion character's posts look more "tame", "knowledgeable" and believable when put directly besides the crazy deranged ramblings of the apparent-fanboy:anti-competitor, "user" shills.
And thats not all, many a times companies also outsource freelancer shills from cheaper pay regions. For a gig which may pay 1 USD for 500 words, companies mainly hire Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Indians to help in such marketing efforts.
And like I said before, this happens everywhere. Amazon reviews, app store reviews, facebook followers... and in this instance, viral marketing for a video game with big numbers like ONE MILLION!!!11ONE!!11111 to show a brave front of success and accomplishment, while the truth might be anything but.
Since it was a serious question, I thought I should reply with all the information at my disposal.
Now though, you`ll find all the Shillion and User characters calling me out on this post, but honestly this form of marketing is no well kept industry secret.
Unlike The Escapist, I can actually drop names on employees and employers who do this kinda marketing. But then again...what do I gain from doing that...And more importantly, why do I even need to do that when anyone reading through the Star Citizen forums here will be able to see exactly what Im talking about
Fave Hun, ok?
EDIT: And sometimes, you`ll just see the obvious: devs/mods telling their fanatics to go to xyz forum and start a forum war against anyone bad mouthing their game. Funny part is that, they sometimes do it right in the public eye for everyone to see the white-knight rally chant ( example Mortal Online).
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Now after release, repeating the very same words from back then would be like preaching to the choir on this site.
Judging by how much money this game has already got ,i would say it still holds true,people are terrible when comes to spending money.I bet there are MANY players if we can call them a player since there is no game yet,have already bought 5+ ships.You can only fly one but their compulsive spending disorder makes them think they need to have every ship if possible.I wouldn't even doubt players will own 10+ ships before the game goes live.
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While it is not forbidden in the Empire for humans to fly around in Vanduul ships adapted for human use (Scythe, Glaive) it seems to be an unhealthy habit according to this article.
Have fun
(43 is of course an estimate, it may be more like 60 by the time this thing actually launches in 2024.)
LOL I just read this from the early days. http://www.wired.com/2015/03/fans-dropped-77m-guys-buggy-half-built-game/
Seems nothing has really changed, still selling ships and the game is no where in site. Really have to laugh at this.
Roberts needs to bring people in from Origin to make him stop look listen and have others help him finish the game. After all that is what happened with WC and FL!
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
A video showing the recovery operation of a Retaliator bomber escape pod. The music reminds me very much of the "2001" music from the end of the movie. I like the video, with the sunrise over the bright blue planet as the backdrop.
Have fun
Nice catch, hadn't seen that before. Pretty much reinforced my opinion that Roberts is marketing this brilliantly, but is still an impediment to the design and development. There will be a lot of waste and delay due to his egomania, but the team may still be able to deliver a game. Won't be what's sold to the fans now though.
In part due to things like Roberts' gushing love of basically unimportant bits like 'catching the blood flow on the skin in the mocap'. Will that could be technically impressive, it is likely to have little to no effect on the game.
The article did point out some of their techniques of fishing for whales. Pretty informative the each time a 'Look what's New!' posting shows up here.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.