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ESO wasnt that great before B2P so..........
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What's gonna change that makes the game "better" ??
For ESO to get me back..what are they going to do to lure those who left a while ago? I can tell you now it's certainly not going to be the cash shop.
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I think thats what they said about SWTOR bfore f2p.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-07-18-the-old-republic-earned-usd165-million-last-year-report
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As long as the cash shop isn't intrusive or necessary, why wouldn't it be better? The console release will bring in tons more players. You don't have to pay a sub, so if you are looking for a time filler MMO between games or an alternative when you are bored, this will be a great prospect. You don't have to worry about subbing and unsubbing. I think it will help it keep a larger active player base which is important in an MMO.
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Well........numbers are great but that still does not convince older player to return.
They're not trying to get you back... they're trying to get all those other people who never bought the game because there was a subscription associated with it. A lot of folks passed on ESO because they felt it wasn't worthy of a sub. They just might be willing to buy the game if they know they can come and go as they please. They will get more than a few bites, that's a certainty.
Ok, Ill accept that. I thought maybe they were also going to do something new to entice the other folks back. I get the new customer grab buy goin B2P over the sub. Good business and cash influx. I was just hoping something would catch my eye to return but I guess its the same old same old.
I guess that would depend on whether you like the additions coming to the game soon or after B2P...The good thing is you can find out with no charge if you already have the box in march..
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I know several people who love the TES games that wouldn't touch this with a sub. They would be tempted to play it now however. Personally I think B2P was essential for a decent console release. The PC version of the game might have tainted any chance for them to outsell a game like Skyrim but between B2P and the champion system it at least is headed in the right direction.
Having said that without a offline mode I don't know if my friends who are TES fans but have not tried this game will even with B2P. The online MMO community doesn't have the most golden of reputations.
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What makes you think B2P is going to make the game better?
They've already admitted the content update frequency will fall down
From the reddit AUA:
1) With the change to B2P, can we expect the development time of dlc's to take longer? So far we had a new patch every 4 or 6 weeks, will that time (for example) double after the B2P conversion? 2) Why should PvP players subscribe? We haven't seen a dedicated PvP patch ,at all, from the start of the game. And by that I mean a patch that will introduce (for example) a new and exclusive mechanic into Cyrodiil. How much longer will it take to open the Imperial City?
1) It has less to do with a change in model and more to do with the fact that development on four platforms is more complicated than two. We fully expect a longer time between updates. But remember, there will be some updates which are free and some which are DLC. This will impact the schedule because it is a different delivery plan than our current model.
Conclusion: less content updates, more pink fluffy guar mounts & XP boosters.
So yeah, I wouldn't get my hopes up.
lots of people who like it though, even if you do not.
it says right there that it has more to do with the fact that they have 4 different platforms to patch, even if it was sub only across all platforms the content would take longer to develop.
you can blame the console version on this exclusively.
Yeah this is so true. I know over 20 people that love TES single player game's and can't wait till the 17th for this. The Tes fanbase that didn't try this game because of the sub are all over this now. So for every one player that feels they have to quit because of B2P will mean nothing in the end if 2 or more new player's come in. Just go over to the Elderscrolls boards and see how many are excited about this. And from what i'm hearing the update 6.1 will make it more friendly for new players.
It doesn't have to......
As long as people come and go, they don't have to convince anyone to come back....
Ya know what the same old, same old is?
Someone whining about why a game is not made specifically to their particular tastes.
That has gotten so old it is prehistoric.
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What is going to change?
About the game: nothing.
However a game with a subscription is more expensive over time than a game without a subscription.
And with a lower price the number of people who believe it is worth buying should be higher.
Exactly, you nailed it.
I for one was fully against the change. ZOS has been pretty adamant that my game play experience will not change though. They didn't make XP slower, or reduce gold gained from quest or pvp. In fact if I stay subbed a get a 10% boost to these things.
I loved a lot about the game before (hated somethings too), and if what they say is true, my game play wont change. I can only see the addition of new players as positive.
I've moved to the cautiously optimistic camp.
I hate saying these kind of things, but for the benefit of the OP, I will....
I find ESO to be a very solid MMO. When it goes B2P, it will (most likely) be my favorite of the B2P bunch (GW2, TSW). For me, ESO is leaps beyond GW2.
So it's all a matter of taste. If you don't think it's fun, don't play it.
Their pace for updates dropped the moment they fired lots of people back in september. They promised 4-6 weeks patches long after they started developing for xbone and ps4.
Making money is not proportional to how good the game is. ESO is shallow and linear, compared to real Elder Scrolls games, and will remain such. SW:TOR is arguably worse since it is based on a huge IP yet the game is even more shallow and linear than ESO.
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They promised 6 week average, and they delivered. Even with this huge (imo huge) delay they are at an 8 weeks average... That's not bad. With b2p things will most likely slow down to quarterly updates (industry avg.).
If those quarterly updates are huge like this upcoming one I'll be pretty ok with it, as long as they continue to patch frequently like they have been, every couple weeks.
I don't think that changing the payment model will make the game "better". Unless you quit because you couldn't afford the monthly fees they will need to find other ways to bring back old players.
They will probably get more new players who try the game though, but that is another matter.
The problems that plague ESO are very different from SWTOR for example end game and lack of a proper grouping tool just to name two out of many.