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ESO (Zenimax) pulls all Crown Store Potions in response to post...

NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
in Elder Scrolls Online

As a crafter in ESO, I've paid special attention to what items were planned for the new Crown Store.  

 

They have stated specifically that Crown Store items would not be as powerful as player crafted items.  When it went up yesterday I noticed that the healing potions offered were stronger than what I was able to craft.  Someone (who will remain nameless) posted a question in the forums asking if this was a bug or if it was intentional.  

 

The community manager responded that this was not intentional and in response they have pulled all potions from the Crown Store until they can be sure that they are not more powerful than player crafted at which time they will return to the store.

 

We all know the path to P2WIN and this had the appearance of heading down that path.  I thought I would share with everyone how well they handled the situation and call out a "Well Done" for ESO and ZOS.

 

Whatever you think of the company or the game you have to give them credit when they do the right thing.

 

Edited to remove my personal involvement in events as evidently that incites trolls.

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  • gorro187gorro187 Member UncommonPosts: 234
    imo your post comes across as a I wanna toot my own horn kinda thing.
  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    Originally posted by gorro187
    imo your post comes across as a I wanna toot my own horn kinda thing.

    Thanks for your feedback, and that's not intentional.  Just wanted to share the action they took.  I'm sure if I hadn't posted it, someone else would have eventually.

    The Differently Geared 
  • ArazaleArazale Member Posts: 348
    More like they were testing the waters to see how many people would complain. C'mon now, you really think it was a mistake? lol
  • strangepowersstrangepowers Member UncommonPosts: 630

    Originally posted by gorro187
    imo your post comes across as a I wanna toot my own horn kinda thing.

    IMO your post comes across as a passive aggressive form of projection, i.e. what your motivation would be.

    On the other hand I feel the the OP was able to effectively communicate that the team at Zenimax was responsive, a positive comment among a slew of cons usually offered in regards to the game.

  • YashaXYashaX Member EpicPosts: 3,100
    Originally posted by gorro187
    imo your post comes across as a I wanna toot my own horn kinda thing.

    The title of the thread does a bit, but the content of the OP's post is clearly praising ZOS for deftly moving to address a problem brought up by the community. Good to see such a quick response from them.

    ....
  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    I think we've all called out the negative in the past when it comes to developers actions.  Figured I would change things up a bit :)
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  • nate222nate222 Member UncommonPosts: 7

    Yes, I'm sure you were the only one to mention it to them. They must have thought, "my GOD, this random forum poster stated CS pots were more potent than craftable..." and the entire organization went into red alert.

     

    Good job random forum poster. Good job.

  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    Originally posted by nate222

    Yes, I'm sure you were the only one to mention it to them. They must have thought, "my GOD, this random forum poster stated CS pots were more potent than craftable..." and the entire organization went into red alert.

     

    Good job random forum poster. Good job.

     

    Thanks for your on topic response.  Perhaps this is better in the other thread I made about how to be an ass?

     

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  • UproarUproar Member UncommonPosts: 521

    (Anyone see those jerks run by?  Yeah me too)

    As to TESO -- on the surface it sounds good; we'll see if they continue to make 'mistakes'.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Wasn't the problem that since the crown store potions scale by level, they were scaling higher than the highest currently available non-scaling crafted potion which is VR5, I beleve... or was it something else?
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  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Wasn't the problem that since the crown store potions scale by level, they were scaling higher than the highest currently available non-scaling crafted potion which is VR5, I beleve... or was it something else?

    The potions said that they scaled only to VR5, however I was VR8 so it is a possibility.  They didn't confirm what the issue actually was however.  I'm doubting this as some lower level players commented that they were stronger than potions they could craft at lower levels as well, so I think it was a little more complicated.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Originally posted by NomadMorlock
    Originally posted by Iselin
    Wasn't the problem that since the crown store potions scale by level, they were scaling higher than the highest currently available non-scaling crafted potion which is VR5, I beleve... or was it something else?

    The potions said that they scaled only to VR5, however I was VR8 so it is a possibility.  They didn't confirm what the issue actually was however.  I'm doubting this as some lower level players commented that they were stronger than potions they could craft at lower levels as well, so I think it was a little more complicated.

    I guess we missed that in the PTS since we didn't buy potions with the free crowns we had there... we blew it all on silly costumes and pets lol

     

    And all the VR14s just use the tri-stat potions anyway... and those are only crafted.

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  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    True.  I missed it as well.
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  • nebb1234nebb1234 Member Posts: 242
    Making a mistake is something we all do. Learning from them is what sets the greats apart!
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    Originally posted by NomadMorlock
    Originally posted by nate222

    Yes, I'm sure you were the only one to mention it to them. They must have thought, "my GOD, this random forum poster stated CS pots were more potent than craftable..." and the entire organization went into red alert.

     

    Good job random forum poster. Good job.

     

    Thanks for your on topic response.  Perhaps this is better in the other thread I made about how to be an ass?

     

    http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/wsod.gif

    Aw damn.

  • superconductingsuperconducting Member UncommonPosts: 871

    Great post OP.

    I can recall being blasted by many folks in a thread I made a while ago. I had raised potential concern about P2W with some of the crown items.

    Your post has, in effect, validated my concerns. I thank you kindly for that!

     

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  • GravargGravarg Member UncommonPosts: 3,424
    People need to chill.  Mistakes are made no matter what is going on, and as long as a company is willing to fix those mistakes then everything is fine by me.  Some people though are freaking out about it.  Mistakes will always be made, since there are people involved, and people make mistakes...inb4 robot made games...well actually robots could make mistakes as well, since people made them...we're all doomed :)
  • WylfWylf Member UncommonPosts: 376

    To the OP, thanks for the info. Your post was informative and I appreciated it.

    Perhaps one unintended consequence of the post was that it flushed out a bunch of idiot trolls. Don't let em get to you.

    Ignore the fools.

     

     

  • japormsxjapormsx Member UncommonPosts: 51
    I also would like to commend the O,.P. for posting this. something positive a developer is doing.  cheers.
  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    There's more to the story.  On pts for weeks there were v10 potions. When 1.6 went live the v5 potions did not upgrade to v10. This is why the crown store potions were stronger.  They were v10. 
  • DarkHighDarkHigh Member UncommonPosts: 157

    Well done to OP and to ESO Team. I'm not a player of ESO but this is a good news story that needs to be shown some light. We shed light on enough crap and minor mistakes blown up into massive "failures" but not enough "good jobs".

     

    Trolls are trolls if they will always find something to complain about.

  • MyownGodMyownGod Member UncommonPosts: 205
    Originally posted by Uproar

    (Anyone see those jerks run by?  Yeah me too)

    As to TESO -- on the surface it sounds good; we'll see if they continue to make 'mistakes'.

    So far, from my experiences with MMO, in today's MMO, TESO is the only MMO where the developers learns from their mistakes and actually try to make it better, compared to now and then, you can feel the game progression is improving.

    But yeah, we can only pray that they won't go down the P2W path.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Originally posted by NomadMorlock
    Originally posted by gorro187
    imo your post comes across as a I wanna toot my own horn kinda thing.

    Thanks for your feedback, and that's not intentional.  Just wanted to share the action they took.  I'm sure if I hadn't posted it, someone else would have eventually.

    Your post comes across as pay2win is bad.

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  • DelCabonDelCabon Member UncommonPosts: 258
    I like that Zenimax acted so quickly. Good stuff :)

    Del Cabon
    A US Army ('Just Cause') Vet and MMORPG Native formerly of Trinsic, Norath and Dereth. Currently playing LOTRO. 

  • NomadMorlockNomadMorlock Member UncommonPosts: 815
    Originally posted by waynejr2
    Originally posted by NomadMorlock
    Originally posted by gorro187
    imo your post comes across as a I wanna toot my own horn kinda thing.

    Thanks for your feedback, and that's not intentional.  Just wanted to share the action they took.  I'm sure if I hadn't posted it, someone else would have eventually.

    Your post comes across as pay2win is bad.

    Yes.  Yes it does...

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