Originally posted by Hariken Might be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Well I don't get any of these issues (appart from occasional freeze). edit.
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Originally posted by MMOExposed they should have a Free Trial..
They dont need to, the game has been out for a long time and most adults are capable of a bit of basic research.
Don't be absurd. Adults doing research on the game isn't going to bring in new players. In fact, some research and coming across a lot of the ESO reviews could potentially keep people away. A free trial will allow someone to try the game with out any payment involved. If they like the game then they can buy it, if not, no harm no foul. Besides, I think ZOS will be the ones to decide if they need to have a free trial, not you or anyone else. Did they ask you if it was OK that they switched to B2P? Yeh, I didn't think so.
Indeed ZOS are the ones to decide, that's exactly why i was responding to someone declaring they should have a free trial. get your absurd facts correct, ye i think so.
The "not you or anyone else" applied to both of you, since you missed that part....however I'm sure MMOExposed was saying that as an idea to get more people into the game. Why you said they don't need one is what's absurd.
Originally posted by MMOExposed they should have a Free Trial..
They dont need to, the game has been out for a long time and most adults are capable of a bit of basic research.
Don't be absurd. Adults doing research on the game isn't going to bring in new players. In fact, some research and coming across a lot of the ESO reviews could potentially keep people away. A free trial will allow someone to try the game with out any payment involved. If they like the game then they can buy it, if not, no harm no foul. Besides, I think ZOS will be the ones to decide if they need to have a free trial, not you or anyone else. Did they ask you if it was OK that they switched to B2P? Yeh, I didn't think so.
Indeed ZOS are the ones to decide, that's exactly why i was responding to someone declaring they should have a free trial. get your absurd facts correct, ye i think so.
The "not you or anyone else" applied to both of you, since you missed that part....however I'm sure MMOExposed was saying that as an idea to get more people into the game. Why you said they don't need one is what's absurd.
lol right then. I think it will be up to ZOS to determine whats absurd eh.
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Originally posted by Hariken Might be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.
It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.
But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
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― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I thought i might wait and play a bit to give eso a chance since there is no monthly fee but last patch added a bug i just can't imagine how a game out of beta would allow in a patch mobs vanishing during combat happened to me all day yesterday.
Zenimax is just bad at fixing one bug while creating 3 more it just never ends i don't know if they even use QA but they need to find people who can do the job right.
I guess i may check back in another year and see if things change but i'm not holding my breath.
I've been playing MMO's since 1999. It's my favorite genre. Right now I alternate between The Secret World and The Elder Scrolls Online, and on a very rare day relog into Star Wars the Old Republic.
Bugs can indeed be found in any game. I have yet to experience anything game breaking in any of the three titles listed above. Usually running a 'repair file' corrects any minor inconvenience I may encounter, or even just '/reloadui'.
TESO is certainly not for everyone. What is? But from my experience it is a very polished MMO and I enjoy it for what it is.
Asertations (God I wish this site had a spell checker) that it is a "buggy mess" does not line up with my probably hundreds of hours of playing it. Sometimes there is a conflict from an outdated, optional mod that I installed myself, I would say that is the biggest source of any dysfunctional gameplay.
Originally posted by Hariken Might be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.
It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.
But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
I call BS on your BS when your fighting mobs and they vanish on you all day that is one serious bug, with eso i have NEVER seen a more buggy game EVER , i have played every mmo since Ultima Online and have played betas with less bugs.
I can list over 10 game breaking bugs including quests bugging out so you can't advance in main storyline that in itself makes the game unplayble for most players, the thing is this should not happen in game out of beta stage.
You can say every game has bugs sure games have bugs but not this serious WoW if bugs like this hit live servers and were never fixed for more than a day or so never seen it happen, when they fix things they don't create 3 more bugs from fix and it keeps snowballing month after month like zenimax.
The amount of bugs i see in chat are amazing i have never played an mmo out of beta with that much chat chatter about getting stuck, quest mobs not showing up, quest mobs not speaking to them, not being able to advance in quest, animations bugging out, abilities bugged not working correctly, patching problems, client crashing, no leader group bugs.
I can list dozens more only one game ever came close to this AC2 you know that mmo did not last long either.
I un-subbed the moment the game was announced FTP. Having endured the tribulations of year 1,I had the feeling(right or wrong) I had been simply used to beta test the June console launch.
I bought the game because I believed ESO AvA was going to be the next iteration of DAOC. WRONG. AVA was barely tested and to this day has significant stability issues. Combine stability issues with nearly zero AvA feature development simply said to me....ESO wasn't interested in providing the kind of entertainment I was looking for.,and they had promised at launch.
Currently playing NOTHING,but watching CAMELOT UNCHAINED intently.
Originally posted by Hariken Might be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.
It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.
But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
I call BS on your BS when your fighting mobs and they vanish on you all day that is one serious bug, with eso i have NEVER seen a more buggy game EVER , i have played every mmo since Ultima Online and have played betas with less bugs.
I can list over 10 game breaking bugs including quests bugging out so you can't advance in main storyline that in itself makes the game unplayble for most players, the thing is this should not happen in game out of beta stage.
You can say every game has bugs sure games have bugs but not this serious WoW if bugs like this hit live servers and were never fixed for more than a day or so never seen it happen, when they fix things they don't create 3 more bugs from fix and it keeps snowballing month after month like zenimax.
The amount of bugs i see in chat are amazing i have never played an mmo out of beta with that much chat chatter about getting stuck, quest mobs not showing up, quest mobs not speaking to them, not being able to advance in quest, animations bugging out, abilities bugged not working correctly, patching problems, client crashing, no leader group bugs.
I can list dozens more only one game ever came close to this AC2 you know that mmo did not last long either.
No clue what you are talking about. I just got to Vet 1, so the story wasn't broken for me. I have not encountered one bug (not saying their aren't any..as all games have them) or had one instance of mobs not showing up..which did happen at release. Can you please give me your ingame character name? I want to group with you and see these game breaking bugs and disappearing NPCs...then we can report back here with the status. Since you don't need a subscription, shouldn't be a problem for you right? So group up or shut up.
Originally posted by Hariken Might be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.
It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.
But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
I call BS on your BS when your fighting mobs and they vanish on you all day that is one serious bug, with eso i have NEVER seen a more buggy game EVER , i have played every mmo since Ultima Online and have played betas with less bugs.
I can list over 10 game breaking bugs including quests bugging out so you can't advance in main storyline that in itself makes the game unplayble for most players, the thing is this should not happen in game out of beta stage.
You can say every game has bugs sure games have bugs but not this serious WoW if bugs like this hit live servers and were never fixed for more than a day or so never seen it happen, when they fix things they don't create 3 more bugs from fix and it keeps snowballing month after month like zenimax.
The amount of bugs i see in chat are amazing i have never played an mmo out of beta with that much chat chatter about getting stuck, quest mobs not showing up, quest mobs not speaking to them, not being able to advance in quest, animations bugging out, abilities bugged not working correctly, patching problems, client crashing, no leader group bugs.
I can list dozens more only one game ever came close to this AC2 you know that mmo did not last long either.
Really, youv'e posted several times about ESO none of which talked about bugs, then you are unlucky enough to be affected by a bug, and all of a sudden OMG THE GAME IS BUG RIDDEN. No you were just unlucky and got hit with a bug that most people are not affected by. And the in game chat you see is fascinating, its gear costs, then its bugs - just correlates exactly with what you are thinking..
This is the wow bug forum btw, a game that has 10 years of development behind it. That's 237 pages of bugs per year for 10 years. Wow is solidly built game. Bugs happen.
Originally posted by Hariken Might be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.
It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.
But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
I call BS on your BS when your fighting mobs and they vanish on you all day that is one serious bug, with eso i have NEVER seen a more buggy game EVER , i have played every mmo since Ultima Online and have played betas with less bugs.
I can list over 10 game breaking bugs including quests bugging out so you can't advance in main storyline that in itself makes the game unplayble for most players, the thing is this should not happen in game out of beta stage.
You can say every game has bugs sure games have bugs but not this serious WoW if bugs like this hit live servers and were never fixed for more than a day or so never seen it happen, when they fix things they don't create 3 more bugs from fix and it keeps snowballing month after month like zenimax.
The amount of bugs i see in chat are amazing i have never played an mmo out of beta with that much chat chatter about getting stuck, quest mobs not showing up, quest mobs not speaking to them, not being able to advance in quest, animations bugging out, abilities bugged not working correctly, patching problems, client crashing, no leader group bugs.
I can list dozens more only one game ever came close to this AC2 you know that mmo did not last long either.
Cool story, bro.
Like I said, let's see what happens when it's running on consoles where troubleshooting-challenged idiots can't screw it up and trolls can't exaggerate and make up shit.
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
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“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
I have not touched it as of yet, I would probably start a new character (though keep the character/s i have already) for extra storage and what i already have, and start afresh.
Though were to play i do not know, EU or US server, depends on what populations are like and also community. I am in Europe, but can easily play on US server (provided the lagg is not real bad). Would liekto join some peeps though as i found it a little dull solo playing when i played it after purchase for a while.
I have not touched it as of yet, I would probably start a new character (though keep the character/s i have already) for extra storage and what i already have, and start afresh.
Though were to play i do not know, EU or US server, depends on what populations are like and also community. I am in Europe, but can easily play on US server (provided the lagg is not real bad). Would liekto join some peeps though as i found it a little dull solo playing when i played it after purchase for a while.
The trick for you is to get into a couple of good social guilds first, then start playing...because the guild leadership and its members greatly impact the MMO feel of any MMO. You can join up to 5 guilds, so it should be easy to try that out. Also, being one EU megaserver and one US Mega Server...population isn't really an issue. Just join the EU one for less latency since you are already in Europe.
Originally posted by HarikenMight be good in 6 months. Its just to buggy right now. I'm sick of all the bugs and freezes then crashes to login screen. Or just the long loading screens just to get into the game. It seems like with every patch it gets more buggy. I'm all done for now.
What a load of BS...seriously. I'm back after taking a few month break and have played many many hours now and I have yet to see one bug. Regardless, if there are bugs, which I'm sure there are, its because its an MMO and there is no such thing as a bugless MMO. When I look at how buggy this game was at launch versus now, it is like night and day. Freezes? What a joke. The game hasn't frozen once. What I did see over the weekend at about 2:00am PST was server wide latency...which is again common with any MMO and has resolved since then....so good riddance.
Don't read this thread if you can't handle others not liking your latest fad mmo, it's easy to call bullshit hence why I'm now calling your post bullshit. The game is a boring linear excuse for a mmo, it's dull as dish water.
well since theres hardly any bugs in the game now, then that is BS, and since the game is not linear (AVA is not linear, and either is the AA Progression system, or the recent justice system) then that's poorly informed as well. Just because you don't like a game thats been out for 9 months does not make it a fad.
How can you really say there's hardly any bugs. The boards over there are filled with complaints about bugs. Are they all lying? The bugs i'm getting are forcing my to restart the game all the time. The inventory cursor gets stuck and you can't interact with anything or the interact key(E) just vanishes and you have to restart the game. And freeze's just before your kicked to the login screen. And the launcher crashes or video setting getting screwed up with the launcher and crashing. All these are posted by alot of people on the boards.
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
I call BS on your BS when your fighting mobs and they vanish on you all day that is one serious bug, with eso i have NEVER seen a more buggy game EVER , i have played every mmo since Ultima Online and have played betas with less bugs.I can list over 10 game breaking bugs including quests bugging out so you can't advance in main storyline that in itself makes the game unplayble for most players, the thing is this should not happen in game out of beta stage.You can say every game has bugs sure games have bugs but not this serious WoW if bugs like this hit live servers and were never fixed for more than a day or so never seen it happen, when they fix things they don't create 3 more bugs from fix and it keeps snowballing month after month like zenimax.The amount of bugs i see in chat are amazing i have never played an mmo out of beta with that much chat chatter about getting stuck, quest mobs not showing up, quest mobs not speaking to them, not being able to advance in quest, animations bugging out, abilities bugged not working correctly, patching problems, client crashing, no leader group bugs.I can list dozens more only one game ever came close to this AC2 you know that mmo did not last long either.
Cool story, bro.Like I said, let's see what happens when it's running on consoles where troubleshooting-challenged idiots can't screw it up and trolls can't exaggerate and make up shit.
I could go on and on so all these players are lying? btw i have had most of the problems esp the harbor main quest line the old guy would never show up for me.
ESO is stable. Period. Many problems are traced to people running mods, which can indeed wreak havoc; if you really want to have problems solved, as opposed to complaining on message boards, turn off all mods, see what persists, and then describe it so that it can be isolated.
Bugs never factored into my game experience at all. You can tell the difference between games where bugs are a majority concern and ones where they're primarily an issue with mods and some hardware configurations. And ESO is definitely in door#2.
One good way to think about this: if bugs really were impacting hundreds of thousands of people, there would be tens of thousands of *active* posts and threads. There aren't.
You could go on and on could you? Are all these bugs affecting your experience astro - no. I've already linked an article showing wow had 180 Thousand bugs, it's normal, even for the most stable of games. Bleet away though, if you can't admit to yourself what the real problem is then we can't help.
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So you're saying every reported bug currently in the forums are user computer problems and that ESO Devs have no acknowledged bugs currently?
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Really, youv'e posted several times about ESO none of which talked about bugs, then you are unlucky enough to be affected by a bug, and all of a sudden OMG THE GAME IS BUG RIDDEN. No you were just unlucky and got hit with a bug that most people are not affected by. And the in game chat you see is fascinating, its gear costs, then its bugs - just correlates exactly with what you are thinking..
This is the wow bug forum btw, a game that has 10 years of development behind it. That's 237 pages of bugs per year for 10 years. Wow is solidly built game. Bugs happen.
Key point: Blizzard did not say that WoW had 180k bugs. They simply updated a story they first released pre-launch: that they had (presumably still have) a database for bugs with each bug given a number and tracked until closed.
As far as ESO goes it had more bugs than it should have when it launched; now not so bad. And what there is could be related to the server architecture - "performance spikes" and phasing etc. (Don't know though.) Summary: there are still "bugs" (sadly) but calling it "bug ridden" is, imo, extreme.
ESO is stable. Period. Many problems are traced to people running mods, which can indeed wreak havoc; if you really want to have problems solved, as opposed to complaining on message boards, turn off all mods, see what persists, and then describe it so that it can be isolated.
Bugs never factored into my game experience at all. You can tell the difference between games where bugs are a majority concern and ones where they're primarily an issue with mods and some hardware configurations. And ESO is definitely in door#2.
One good way to think about this: if bugs really were impacting hundreds of thousands of people, there would be tens of thousands of *active* posts and threads. There aren't.
And why hasnt Zenimax provided a functional UI so people have to run addons to get some basic functionality?
Originally posted by bingbongbros The game is still boring as all hell and the justice system is pretty lame and has no actual purpose to gameplay.
Agreed it feels like a game gimmick to me. And all the dead bodies every where kills it. And i have found my pet peeve about these new mmo's. I want my banks of hotkeys in my UI. Any game with limited hotkeys i will not play anymore. I want to setup how i play my game with all the skills i earned leveling up. That's the way i want to play an mmo. ESO is catering to the Console crowd with this setup not the PC gamer.
I believe they are in the process of redoing the UI for PC as well as gradually removing the god awful veteran system in favour of the new champion system. Zenimax have been actively working on everything that has irked people about the game. It's a bit sad though because it reminds me of the launch of everquest 2, it wasnt a good start and effectively shot the game in the foot. I don't think it'll be as bad for ESO long term though.
i agree through, I do dislike the limited skill system. I want to be able to use all skills. I hope they somehow change it. Justice system feels too tacked on right now you are right, but once the thieves guild and dark brotherhood are added it'll feel a little less awkward.
You have any proof of that? I been with the game from beta to present and I have seen nothing that would reflect that. So please give us some link that would show this because if all you have is a "I believe" that just isn't good enough. They left us hanging for almost a year and then found out it wasn't bugs they were fixing but redoing the game to get consoles to work.
ESO is stable. Period. Many problems are traced to people running mods, which can indeed wreak havoc; if you really want to have problems solved, as opposed to complaining on message boards, turn off all mods, see what persists, and then describe it so that it can be isolated.
Bugs never factored into my game experience at all. You can tell the difference between games where bugs are a majority concern and ones where they're primarily an issue with mods and some hardware configurations. And ESO is definitely in door#2.
One good way to think about this: if bugs really were impacting hundreds of thousands of people, there would be tens of thousands of *active* posts and threads. There aren't.
And why hasnt Zenimax provided a functional UI so people have to run addons to get some basic functionality?
DONT blame people for developers faults.
Their UI is, with some exceptions, amazing. It's barebones, doesnt' get in the way and doesn't have a lot of nonsense.
Just becuase some players have to have everythign AND the kitchen sink is not their fault.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
As far as ESO goes it had more bugs than it should have when it launched; now not so bad. And what there is could be related to the server architecture - "performance spikes" and phasing etc. (Don't know though.) Summary: there are still "bugs" (sadly) but calling it "bug ridden" is, imo, extreme.
This is exactly right. And yes, phasing was responsible for the majority of quest NPC bugs. Those bugs were very similar to what players experienced in TSW where quest NPCs wouldn't spawn, you couldn't interact with them, etc,. in some phases but were fine in others. They were easier to get around in TSW because there the phases were numbered and you would know that you were in phase "x" of town "y" and you could ask in chat for working phases and get a quick group invite to travel to someone else's phase where the quest was working.
When that happens or happened in ESO (they are very rare bugs now) you can't do that and can only hope that if you log-out and then back in you'll end up in a phase with that quest working.
But like you say, what bugs there are now are a drop in the bucket compared to a year ago.
And anyone that has ever worked in computer customer service will tell you that individual OS set-ups, background processes and hardware drivers account for the vast majority of issues users experience running software - especially software that is demanding on the CPU and GFX card.
ESO added another layer of potential problems when they decided to cater to the modder community by opening up the UI. A lot of weird issues disappear if you disable all add-ons. And you usually figure out which is causing the problem by re--enabling them one at the time.
Running in Admin mode and making sure the game files are explicitly allowed in the firewall also can help - the last one helps with loading times.
Every PC game these days gets 0s in metacritic user reviews for being "buggy messes." Some people should just stick to console gaming - where known bugs tend to get addressed quickly because everyone is running the same HW and OS.
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I've been back in ESO since the beginning of December. I, along with many members of my original guild, returned in mass to get ready for 1.6 and we picked up where we left off about 3 months after launch. We play on all sorts of machines for high end to low end and I can tell you for a fact that there are no game breaking bugs we have encountered.
In fact we have a large spread of add on use as well and I can tell you from experience that most of the game issues are caused by the use of add on's.
The game as is is very playable without frequently encountering any bug at all and ESO isn't responsible for shoddy programming being done by the UI community. If you want to mod your game you are going to have to deal with the consequence.
If you care to play as intended, I would challenge you to find any bug in a weeks gameplay that wasn't server stress related. The server stress issues have recently sprung up due to a huge population influx.
If ESO allows addon's they get bashed because of buggy game play. If they don't they get bashed for not allowing players to play as they like. There's no winning this argument.
If once per week you encounter a problem which can be fixed by typing /reloadui or simply logging to character select and back in a few seconds later is considered unplayable or game breaking for you, then in my opinion you are unreasonable.
For or any thinking of playing, don't be misled by these guys..
ESO is stable. Period. Many problems are traced to people running mods, which can indeed wreak havoc; if you really want to have problems solved, as opposed to complaining on message boards, turn off all mods, see what persists, and then describe it so that it can be isolated.
Bugs never factored into my game experience at all. You can tell the difference between games where bugs are a majority concern and ones where they're primarily an issue with mods and some hardware configurations. And ESO is definitely in door#2.
One good way to think about this: if bugs really were impacting hundreds of thousands of people, there would be tens of thousands of *active* posts and threads. There aren't.
And why hasnt Zenimax provided a functional UI so people have to run addons to get some basic functionality?
DONT blame people for developers faults.
The UI is completely functional. In fact it's great. Sorry it's not your thing, but it's not broken.
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Well I don't get any of these issues (appart from occasional freeze). edit.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
The "not you or anyone else" applied to both of you, since you missed that part....however I'm sure MMOExposed was saying that as an idea to get more people into the game. Why you said they don't need one is what's absurd.
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lol right then. I think it will be up to ZOS to determine whats absurd eh.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Yes, there are bugs... there will always be bugs... everything has bugs. And what are bugs to you with your system and whatever you have on it and whatever other tasks are running and whatever add-ons you are using won't be bugs for someone else.
It'll be interesting to see what bugs there are when the game is playable on identical consoles where the user can't fuck it up and the bugs will be easy to see for in-game bugs.
But saying that "its just to buggy right now" is exaggerated utter bullshit like keithian said.
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I thought i might wait and play a bit to give eso a chance since there is no monthly fee but last patch added a bug i just can't imagine how a game out of beta would allow in a patch mobs vanishing during combat happened to me all day yesterday.
Zenimax is just bad at fixing one bug while creating 3 more it just never ends i don't know if they even use QA but they need to find people who can do the job right.
I guess i may check back in another year and see if things change but i'm not holding my breath.
I've been playing MMO's since 1999. It's my favorite genre. Right now I alternate between The Secret World and The Elder Scrolls Online, and on a very rare day relog into Star Wars the Old Republic.
Bugs can indeed be found in any game. I have yet to experience anything game breaking in any of the three titles listed above. Usually running a 'repair file' corrects any minor inconvenience I may encounter, or even just '/reloadui'.
TESO is certainly not for everyone. What is? But from my experience it is a very polished MMO and I enjoy it for what it is.
Asertations (God I wish this site had a spell checker) that it is a "buggy mess" does not line up with my probably hundreds of hours of playing it. Sometimes there is a conflict from an outdated, optional mod that I installed myself, I would say that is the biggest source of any dysfunctional gameplay.
I call BS on your BS when your fighting mobs and they vanish on you all day that is one serious bug, with eso i have NEVER seen a more buggy game EVER , i have played every mmo since Ultima Online and have played betas with less bugs.
I can list over 10 game breaking bugs including quests bugging out so you can't advance in main storyline that in itself makes the game unplayble for most players, the thing is this should not happen in game out of beta stage.
You can say every game has bugs sure games have bugs but not this serious WoW if bugs like this hit live servers and were never fixed for more than a day or so never seen it happen, when they fix things they don't create 3 more bugs from fix and it keeps snowballing month after month like zenimax.
The amount of bugs i see in chat are amazing i have never played an mmo out of beta with that much chat chatter about getting stuck, quest mobs not showing up, quest mobs not speaking to them, not being able to advance in quest, animations bugging out, abilities bugged not working correctly, patching problems, client crashing, no leader group bugs.
I can list dozens more only one game ever came close to this AC2 you know that mmo did not last long either.
I un-subbed the moment the game was announced FTP. Having endured the tribulations of year 1,I had the feeling(right or wrong) I had been simply used to beta test the June console launch.
I bought the game because I believed ESO AvA was going to be the next iteration of DAOC. WRONG. AVA was barely tested and to this day has significant stability issues. Combine stability issues with nearly zero AvA feature development simply said to me....ESO wasn't interested in providing the kind of entertainment I was looking for.,and they had promised at launch.
Currently playing NOTHING,but watching CAMELOT UNCHAINED intently.
No clue what you are talking about. I just got to Vet 1, so the story wasn't broken for me. I have not encountered one bug (not saying their aren't any..as all games have them) or had one instance of mobs not showing up..which did happen at release. Can you please give me your ingame character name? I want to group with you and see these game breaking bugs and disappearing NPCs...then we can report back here with the status. Since you don't need a subscription, shouldn't be a problem for you right? So group up or shut up.
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Really, youv'e posted several times about ESO none of which talked about bugs, then you are unlucky enough to be affected by a bug, and all of a sudden OMG THE GAME IS BUG RIDDEN. No you were just unlucky and got hit with a bug that most people are not affected by. And the in game chat you see is fascinating, its gear costs, then its bugs - just correlates exactly with what you are thinking..
This is the wow bug forum btw, a game that has 10 years of development behind it. That's 237 pages of bugs per year for 10 years. Wow is solidly built game. Bugs happen.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1012660/
Maybe this will give people with no perspective a reality check, in 2009 WOW showed they were 180,000 bugs. As i've said, WOW is a very solid game.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/blizzard-is-tracking-180-000-bugs-in-wow/
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Cool story, bro.
Like I said, let's see what happens when it's running on consoles where troubleshooting-challenged idiots can't screw it up and trolls can't exaggerate and make up shit.
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I have not touched it as of yet, I would probably start a new character (though keep the character/s i have already) for extra storage and what i already have, and start afresh.
Though were to play i do not know, EU or US server, depends on what populations are like and also community. I am in Europe, but can easily play on US server (provided the lagg is not real bad). Would liekto join some peeps though as i found it a little dull solo playing when i played it after purchase for a while.
The trick for you is to get into a couple of good social guilds first, then start playing...because the guild leadership and its members greatly impact the MMO feel of any MMO. You can join up to 5 guilds, so it should be easy to try that out. Also, being one EU megaserver and one US Mega Server...population isn't really an issue. Just join the EU one for less latency since you are already in Europe.
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http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/156008/cannt-do-lifting-the-veil-quest-lvl-11
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155698/prophet-not-appearing
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161869/problem-with-the-prophet-and-the-harborage-quest-after-update
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/61522/im-stuck
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161008/game-crashes-in-main-quest-final-molagbal-fight
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161712/bug-stuck-in-cyrodil-dungeon-after-reaching-veteran-rank
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159765/progression-blocked-lifting-the-veil-in-auridon
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161614/mainstory-quest-is-bugged-cant-move-on
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159894/light-not-appearing-in-the-light-fantastic-quest
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155293/quest-bugged-eastmarch-gods-save-the-king
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155063/stuck-on-main-story-quest-shadow-of-sancre-tor
I could go on and on so all these players are lying? btw i have had most of the problems esp the harbor main quest line the old guy would never show up for me.
ESO is stable. Period. Many problems are traced to people running mods, which can indeed wreak havoc; if you really want to have problems solved, as opposed to complaining on message boards, turn off all mods, see what persists, and then describe it so that it can be isolated.
Bugs never factored into my game experience at all. You can tell the difference between games where bugs are a majority concern and ones where they're primarily an issue with mods and some hardware configurations. And ESO is definitely in door#2.
One good way to think about this: if bugs really were impacting hundreds of thousands of people, there would be tens of thousands of *active* posts and threads. There aren't.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
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Key point: Blizzard did not say that WoW had 180k bugs. They simply updated a story they first released pre-launch: that they had (presumably still have) a database for bugs with each bug given a number and tracked until closed.
As far as ESO goes it had more bugs than it should have when it launched; now not so bad. And what there is could be related to the server architecture - "performance spikes" and phasing etc. (Don't know though.) Summary: there are still "bugs" (sadly) but calling it "bug ridden" is, imo, extreme.
And why hasnt Zenimax provided a functional UI so people have to run addons to get some basic functionality?
DONT blame people for developers faults.
You have any proof of that? I been with the game from beta to present and I have seen nothing that would reflect that. So please give us some link that would show this because if all you have is a "I believe" that just isn't good enough. They left us hanging for almost a year and then found out it wasn't bugs they were fixing but redoing the game to get consoles to work.
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Their UI is, with some exceptions, amazing. It's barebones, doesnt' get in the way and doesn't have a lot of nonsense.
Just becuase some players have to have everythign AND the kitchen sink is not their fault.
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This is exactly right. And yes, phasing was responsible for the majority of quest NPC bugs. Those bugs were very similar to what players experienced in TSW where quest NPCs wouldn't spawn, you couldn't interact with them, etc,. in some phases but were fine in others. They were easier to get around in TSW because there the phases were numbered and you would know that you were in phase "x" of town "y" and you could ask in chat for working phases and get a quick group invite to travel to someone else's phase where the quest was working.
When that happens or happened in ESO (they are very rare bugs now) you can't do that and can only hope that if you log-out and then back in you'll end up in a phase with that quest working.
But like you say, what bugs there are now are a drop in the bucket compared to a year ago.
And anyone that has ever worked in computer customer service will tell you that individual OS set-ups, background processes and hardware drivers account for the vast majority of issues users experience running software - especially software that is demanding on the CPU and GFX card.
ESO added another layer of potential problems when they decided to cater to the modder community by opening up the UI. A lot of weird issues disappear if you disable all add-ons. And you usually figure out which is causing the problem by re--enabling them one at the time.
Running in Admin mode and making sure the game files are explicitly allowed in the firewall also can help - the last one helps with loading times.
Every PC game these days gets 0s in metacritic user reviews for being "buggy messes." Some people should just stick to console gaming - where known bugs tend to get addressed quickly because everyone is running the same HW and OS.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I've been back in ESO since the beginning of December. I, along with many members of my original guild, returned in mass to get ready for 1.6 and we picked up where we left off about 3 months after launch. We play on all sorts of machines for high end to low end and I can tell you for a fact that there are no game breaking bugs we have encountered.
In fact we have a large spread of add on use as well and I can tell you from experience that most of the game issues are caused by the use of add on's.
The game as is is very playable without frequently encountering any bug at all and ESO isn't responsible for shoddy programming being done by the UI community. If you want to mod your game you are going to have to deal with the consequence.
If you care to play as intended, I would challenge you to find any bug in a weeks gameplay that wasn't server stress related. The server stress issues have recently sprung up due to a huge population influx.
If ESO allows addon's they get bashed because of buggy game play. If they don't they get bashed for not allowing players to play as they like. There's no winning this argument.
If once per week you encounter a problem which can be fixed by typing /reloadui or simply logging to character select and back in a few seconds later is considered unplayable or game breaking for you, then in my opinion you are unreasonable.
For or any thinking of playing, don't be misled by these guys..
The UI is completely functional. In fact it's great. Sorry it's not your thing, but it's not broken.
Edited to self moderate.