Since when do PvP players ever care about lore or reading quest dialog any more than they have to?
Ignorance at it's finest. The only big difference between a PvP player and a PvE player is that we prefer to compete against other players who all think and react differently and change up their fighting styles and strategies rather than playing against static scripted AI with repetitive mechanics.
Any kid with basic reading skills can follow a guide cand beat something in PvE when they think it is "too hard" (which nowadays is extremely rare to begin with). A guide won't help you against a skilled player who knows the strengths and weaknesses of every class and every spot on the battlefield that they can use to gain the upper hand even when heavily outnumbered.
PvPers enjoy all the other aspects of RPGs, including lore, just as much as PvErs. We simply prefer different types of fights / enemies.
Cohh will definitely get the hype going like he does for every game at the beginning...the hype train ends not too long after launch with him though as he moves on to another game. I do think it's funny about the building of structures and how he looked like it's something that doesn't happen a lot. lol honestly it reminds me a lot of when he hyped up Archeage.. and look how well that turned out.
Originally posted by Kaelaien Is this game all pvp/rvr?
Yea it's ZERO PvE. What a waste of talented material. For the record, I think the game looks remarkably bad and the animations and physics look horrendous.
So this is just a PVP game? Another one to scratch off my list!
PvP is a niche within a niche market and to make an MMO without PvE is to remove any vestige or semblance of the genre in which it attempts to call itself. This game should be made into a Lobby based MOBA or some other such title but to label it as an RPG is a travesty to the RPG label.
This my friends is the saddest part of bitter vet syndrome.
It's one thing to spend hour complaining about how WoW ruined MMOs and how MMOs are dieing.
Yet when an underserved niche is finally getting their own niche game you come here and fume about how it doesn't cater more to your particular niche.
Nice of you to read into my post with the clarity and understanding it deserves. Kappa!
I never once said this game is ruining the genre what I said is it ISN'T THE SAME GENRE! It is sites like this and others who label it as an MMO when in all reality it isn't. I wish the game all the luck and success, I enjoyed DAoC for 2 years but It's still sad to call something it isn't and remove any actual semblance of the genre it is attempting to portray. Huge difference in my post and your attempted misnomer of my post.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Since when do PvP players ever care about lore or reading quest dialog any more than they have to?
The game is for RPG pvp players. If you do not know who they are then you are not one and I ponder why you continue to troll this thread.
Who are RPG pvp players? The entire population who ever played DAoC and a few other mmorpg pvp games throughout history and EXACTLY who this game is targeting.
Mmorpg style pvp is completely different than FPS or lobby games. It is fundamentally different from the ground up. If you do not have the experience to identify this then please consider contributing to the genres you do support.
It isn't an RPG though. It needs to have PvE progression for that to occur.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
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Ignorance at it's finest. The only big difference between a PvP player and a PvE player is that we prefer to compete against other players who all think and react differently and change up their fighting styles and strategies rather than playing against static scripted AI with repetitive mechanics.
Any kid with basic reading skills can follow a guide cand beat something in PvE when they think it is "too hard" (which nowadays is extremely rare to begin with). A guide won't help you against a skilled player who knows the strengths and weaknesses of every class and every spot on the battlefield that they can use to gain the upper hand even when heavily outnumbered.
PvPers enjoy all the other aspects of RPGs, including lore, just as much as PvErs. We simply prefer different types of fights / enemies.
The game looks great, I'm looking forward to it.
Cohh will definitely get the hype going like he does for every game at the beginning...the hype train ends not too long after launch with him though as he moves on to another game. I do think it's funny about the building of structures and how he looked like it's something that doesn't happen a lot. lol honestly it reminds me a lot of when he hyped up Archeage.. and look how well that turned out.
Nice of you to read into my post with the clarity and understanding it deserves. Kappa!
I never once said this game is ruining the genre what I said is it ISN'T THE SAME GENRE! It is sites like this and others who label it as an MMO when in all reality it isn't. I wish the game all the luck and success, I enjoyed DAoC for 2 years but It's still sad to call something it isn't and remove any actual semblance of the genre it is attempting to portray. Huge difference in my post and your attempted misnomer of my post.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
The game is for RPG pvp players. If you do not know who they are then you are not one and I ponder why you continue to troll this thread.
Who are RPG pvp players? The entire population who ever played DAoC and a few other mmorpg pvp games throughout history and EXACTLY who this game is targeting.
Mmorpg style pvp is completely different than FPS or lobby games. It is fundamentally different from the ground up. If you do not have the experience to identify this then please consider contributing to the genres you do support.
It isn't an RPG though. It needs to have PvE progression for that to occur.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
Sorry but were all of you looking at the same video I did? It looks like CRAP.
Old dated washed out clunky chunky C R A P..
ZERO amazing to it.
Looks like 1000 other cheaply made asian games out there at best.
I understand you want the game to be amazing, hell I was a fan of DAoC as well, but do not pretend this is something its not.
MAYBE eventually it will be, but right now its far from it.