I like to think that every week at the appointed time, David Braben sits down in his favourite chair in his office, pours a glass of whisky and lights up a huge Cuban cigar to savour the 10ftc transmission. Classical music plays softly in the background. Do Not Disturb hangs of his office door.
Usage of uhms and ahs is quite common for anyone speaking. We're all human, can't have a perfect memory at all hours of the day, particularly when tired or the like. That said... Uhm... Looks cool, have high hopes for this game as it stands.
On a side note I'm curious, why do people bash things so much all the time? Really, it makes a bad impression on both themselves and the product they refer. Constructive criticism should be constructive.
It's hardly bashing. The quote ,which has clearly been adjusted to be silly, was posted it as a bit of fun. It's hardly offensive or cause for concern and yet people are acting like the man is having his good name besmirched. If something as silly as that upsets people then perhaps they ought to take a step back.
I'm hardly upset. Just seeing it a lot lately in the gaming forums, had to ask somewhere.
I was under the impression that this is a forum where we discuss a game in development, its various functionalities, features and the testing progress. That the information presented was not "made up on the spot" but a very brief summary of a complex topic well documented in various development and fan documents.
Continue your agitprop campaign then ... never mind me ....
Have fun
First I would like to offer a big ol LOL at your sentence about this being a game forum where we discuss blah blah blah. What you really should have said is this is a game forum where we only discuss the positives and heavily criticize anyone who posts their view, opinions or anything that can paint SC in a somewhat shitty light and label them as haters.
With that out of the way I never said the topic was not well documented, just that Chris does sound like he doesn't know what the hell he is saying half the time. The crew stations was very well documented by another dev and they explained their vision for it perfectly.
I'm sorry you seem to take all SC criticism directly to heart but your typical response to any criticism is to either try and whitewash it or post a bunch of information that is loosely linked with the topic at hand to try and bury the argument.
Next time just post the actual dev article, say "this is a well written piece about crew stations" and be done with it but you are welcome to continue to quote my posts out of context even though you make yourself look foolish.
It's hardly bashing. The quote ,which has clearly been adjusted to be silly, was posted it as a bit of fun. It's hardly offensive or cause for concern and yet people are acting like the man is having his good name besmirched. If something as silly as that upsets people then perhaps they ought to take a step back.
I'm hardly upset. Just seeing it a lot lately in the gaming forums, had to ask somewhere.
I'm glad you're not upset, because I wasn't referring to you at all
Usage of uhms and ahs is quite common for anyone speaking. We're all human, can't have a perfect memory at all hours of the day, particularly when tired or the like. That said... Uhm... Looks cool, have high hopes for this game as it stands.
On a side note I'm curious, why do people bash things so much all the time? Really, it makes a bad impression on both themselves and the product they refer. Constructive criticism should be constructive.
No it's not common speaking, unless your speaking about someone who is a pathological liar. Over use of "uh and ahh" and the like are verbal queue for deception.
I was under the impression that this is a forum where we discuss a game in development, its various functionalities, features and the testing progress. That the information presented was not "made up on the spot" but a very brief summary of a complex topic well documented in various development and fan documents.
Continue your agitprop campaign then ... never mind me ....
Have fun
First I would like to offer a big ol LOL at your sentence about this being a game forum where we discuss blah blah blah. What you really should have said is this is a game forum where we only discuss the positives and heavily criticize anyone who posts their view, opinions or anything that can paint SC in a somewhat shitty light and label them as haters.
--> "We only discuss positives" .... Is that so ? Then i wonder where 70 % of the latest threads here in this mmorpg.com subforum - started on an almost daily basis - come from. Started by posters with IMHO a strong anti-SC bias.
With that out of the way I never said the topic was not well documented, just that Chris does sound like he doesn't know what the hell he is saying half the time.
--> I am sure if someone digs through hundreds of hours of videos of ANY person well known to the public one can always find a few minutes of speech that might not serve as a shining example for rhetoric training. And there are many many hours of video w.r.t. Chris Roberts. A recent example would be the BBC documentation.
The crew stations was very well documented by another dev and they explained their vision for it perfectly.
I'm sorry you seem to take all SC criticism directly to heart
--> I do not take ANYTHING related to a computer game "directly to heart".
but your typical response to any criticism is to either try and whitewash it
--> Is asking for proof when presented with baseless rumours and personal opinions presented as "the one and only truth" considered "whitewashing" in your opinion ? I call that: common sense.
or post a bunch of information that is loosely linked with the topic at hand to try and bury the argument.
--> If you scroll up you will see that my first response contained only links relevant to the topic and presenting some more in-depth information to the question discussed by Chris Roberts in this particular 10-f-t-C question. There was no criticism in there, no sarcastic remarks. Just information which was relevant to the topic - crew stations. NOT "loosely linked".
--> Any criticism was initiated by yourself as you called this "useless info" and got a fitting response to this remark.
Next time just post the actual dev article,
--> Scroll up. That is exactly what i did. Link to the answers of the developer actually working on that topic. The other links just sum it up in a condensed TLDR fashion or present it in another format (video instead of text).
say "this is a well written piece about crew stations" and be done with it but you are welcome to continue to quote my posts out of context even though you make yourself look foolish.
--> How can i "live with the shame of looking foolish to you" .... ? --> Actually .... I can very well live with it ... ;-)
No it's not common speaking, unless your speaking about someone who is a pathological liar. Over use of "uh and ahh" and the like are verbal queue for deception.
--> Or - based on my own experience - for someone that is bone tired and perhaps thinking about 20 other more important things at the same time.
Does he always talk like that? Nope!
--> Nope, he does not. Check out the BBC documentation as an example where he talks normally.
--> Or - based on my own experience - for someone that is bone tired and perhaps thinking about 20 other more important things at the same time.
Something's more important than his dream game? Something's more important than a 111 million crowdfunded project? Something's more important than his presentation to his loyal backers about an issue which they find important?
Nonsense. I have to agree with others that he's making it up as he goes along. Here's another video, where Roberts discusses SC aspects with serious, dedicated fans. Notice the similar "ums and ahs", while he discusses mining, and voxel technology? He's very confident in the part he discusses R&D on procedural world generation and private clubs. These are esteemed, high dollar backers like you, Erillion. Zoo organization has an Idris, which means $1000+.
He is probably trying to choose his words carefully so when these things get quoted in the future when everything changes (again) the fans can say THAT is why he is hesitant because he always wanted to change it but didnt want to let the cat ot f the bag too early.
Either way, the only time the guy seems even semi lucid is when he is pitching something that he thinks (knows) will make him money. Pretty much any time he talks about the inner workings he sounds like some guy they pulled out of a bar (pub) somewhere.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Have fun
I'm sure he takes an adequate wage to more than make up for the trials and hardships of his CEO role.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Have fun
I'm sure he takes an adequate wage to more than make up for the trials and hardships of his CEO role.
I'm sure both he and his wife, the marketing director, take an adequate wage.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Have fun
I could hit you with one of your famous "got any links to verify any of that?''. But I wont bother.
The more poignant observation is that anyone that actually wants to get something done would delegate most of those things to other people.
But THAT is really the basis for every single criticism of this game. Roberts himself and his inability to MANAGE pretty much anything at any sort of competent level.
Pretty much every criticism and observations comes from that simple fact (of which there are multiple examples and historical proof). Just because those things spin off into Never Never land doesnt change the fact the guy has issues.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Have fun
I could hit you with one of your famous "got any links to verify any of that?''. But I wont bother.
The more poignant observation is that anyone that actually wants to get something done would delegate most of those things to other people.
But THAT is really the basis for every single criticism of this game. Roberts himself and his inability to MANAGE pretty much anything at any sort of competent level.
Pretty much every criticism and observations comes from that simple fact (of which there are multiple examples and historical proof). Just because those things spin off into Never Never land doesnt change the fact the guy has issues.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Have fun
I could hit you with one of your famous "got any links to verify any of that?''. But I wont bother.
The more poignant observation is that anyone that actually wants to get something done would delegate most of those things to other people.
But THAT is really the basis for every single criticism of this game. Roberts himself and his inability to MANAGE pretty much anything at any sort of competent level.
Pretty much every criticism and observations comes from that simple fact (of which there are multiple examples and historical proof). Just because those things spin off into Never Never land doesnt change the fact the guy has issues.
The question I would have is why is it that you feel that a forum poster somehow has insight into the daily operations of a company and the responsibilities of its CEO (or whatever you'd like to call him)?
I also find it mildly amusing that you lead off your argument with a dig at someone else regarding asking for a link to verify information passed off as being factual. Then you go on to conclude your own post with a statement of "simple fact" that every criticism and observation boils down to a lack of management ability, but then you don't give a link to support that.
Honestly, sometimes it's like dealing with children. Actually, that's not completely right. MY kids actually understand the difference between things like the use of "literally" and "fact" because I've corrected them about how they have NOT done something "....Literally a billion times...". Similarly, if it was a "simple fact" that CR was THAT incompetent, then he wouldn't be, LITERALLY, sitting on a mountain of money laughing at you. Additionally, if it was "simple fact" then it would be an easy argument now, wouldn't it? Instead, here we are!!!!
As far as @rpmcmurphy goes, what is adequate? The average CEO on the Standard & Poor 500 makes over $13 million per year. So would $1 million a year be a bargain? I guess it's always possible he hasn't taken a dime in salary, too, which happens with plenty of start-up companies.
The question I would have is why is it that you feel that a forum poster somehow has insight into the daily operations of a company and the responsibilities of its CEO (or whatever you'd like to call him)?
I also find it mildly amusing that you lead off your argument with a dig at someone else regarding asking for a link to verify information passed off as being factual. Then you go on to conclude your own post with a statement of "simple fact" that every criticism and observation boils down to a lack of management ability, but then you don't give a link to support that.
Honestly, sometimes it's like dealing with children. Actually, that's not completely right. MY kids actually understand the difference between things like the use of "literally" and "fact" because I've corrected them about how they have NOT done something "....Literally a billion times...". Similarly, if it was a "simple fact" that CR was THAT incompetent, then he wouldn't be, LITERALLY, sitting on a mountain of money laughing at you. Additionally, if it was "simple fact" then it would be an easy argument now, wouldn't it? Instead, here we are!!!!
As far as @rpmcmurphy goes, what is adequate? The average CEO on the Standard & Poor 500 makes over $13 million per year. So would $1 million a year be a bargain? I guess it's always possible he hasn't taken a dime in salary, too, which happens with plenty of start-up companies.
He made the statement, so are you directing that "why is it that you feel that a forum poster somehow has insight into the daily operations of a company and the responsibilities of its CEO" to me or him? I was simply responding to what he said. As for the 'dig' He does it on every single post he feels cant be verified. The line of yours I quoted actually shores up that assertion. Because I dont have to support my question he should.
There are facts and historical evidence of him not being able to finish ANY project he has been in charge of, and the only games he has released were ones where higher ups took him off the project or took away some, if not all of his decision making responsibilities. His most famous 'creation' would probably still be in development right now if he was left to do his thing.
But the one thing you are right about he is more than capable of separating people from their money. I wouldnt exactly call that a positive, especially when it is clear he really doesnt know how to manage it or how to use it effectively. So all that proves is there are suckers born every day and those suckers will continue to be suckered until they go broke and then Roberts has to hope he can find more sheep to fleece over the next 10 years to support him and this 'dream' he has.
As far as @rpmcmurphy goes, what is adequate? The average CEO on the Standard & Poor 500 makes over $13 million per year. So would $1 million a year be a bargain? I guess it's always possible he hasn't taken a dime in salary, too, which happens with plenty of start-up companies.
Jesus man, why so serious? It's a tongue-in-cheek comment aimed at all the people that bang on about CIG's finances as much as it is about adequate compensation for Roberts' chosen role.
Something more important than a single question out of 810 questions in 81 episodes of a videoblog.
Something like: * Management of 300+ employees * Management of 4 studios in 3 countries * Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources * Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game * Spokesperson to authorities and the government * Spokesperson to the international press * Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband * Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans * etc.
Have fun
I could hit you with one of your famous "got any links to verify any of that?''.
--> I do NOT know what Chris Roberts thinks. But personally i can imagine that things more important than the single question out of 810 questions go through his mind. Things like those i mentioned above.
The more poignant observation is that anyone that actually wants to get something done would delegate most of those things to other people.
--> However, i suspect we would both agree that Chris Roberts has been doing too much micro-management in the early phase of this Kickstarter campaign.
But THAT is really the basis for every single criticism of this game. Roberts himself and his inability to MANAGE pretty much anything at any sort of competent level. Pretty much every criticism and observations comes from that simple fact (of which there are multiple examples and historical proof).
--> Lets agree to disagree concerning these three sentences.
Just because those things spin off into Never Never land doesnt change the fact the guy has issues.
--> People like Steve Jobs, George Lukas and Bill Gates also have/had "issues". That did not stop them from creating something memorable.
You guys notice how when it comes to Star Citizen the rules tend to be different for them than any other game? They can do free advertising through Erillion all day everyday. The fans of Star Citizen can attack without any worry of being singled out for it. If they are, it only lasts a day or two compared to the other side, well you know what i mean.
Then you have the articles about Star Citizen, where the only one that has told any truth about the concept demo is attacked from all sides. It even got the Lord God Roberts to write a very incoherent letter that didn't sound like it came from someone who falls on the side of truth.
Now about how Chris Roberts talks and his ah's and um's. Lot of people do that and will never be a great speaker. I will make fun of him over it, because when I can laugh at myself I would expect him to also laugh at himself. It tends to be a good quality to laugh at one's self, which it seems like Chris Roberts does not possess.
I came into the Star Citizen picture a little late all because I started to see attacks being directed at Derek Smart who at first looked like he was some evil bad guy. Turns out that was not where the evil was residing. This really is an old story. If you watch our political process in America you will see the same type of attacks, put downs, and lies going round and round. At this time, it seems like everything is upside down. Where truth is attacked and silenced and lies get the main headline as truth. These are strange times indeed, yet it isn't fun unless you are on the side of lies and deceit.
Well time to go have fun in one of my games and forget about how the industry I been attached to and love gets destroyed from a few of the original developers that created it. That is the one thing that amazes me, made and then destroyed by those same people.
As far as @rpmcmurphy goes, what is adequate? The average CEO on the Standard & Poor 500 makes over $13 million per year. So would $1 million a year be a bargain? I guess it's always possible he hasn't taken a dime in salary, too, which happens with plenty of start-up companies.
Jesus man, why so serious? It's a tongue-in-cheek comment aimed at all the people that bang on about CIG's finances as much as it is about adequate compensation for Roberts' chosen role.
The question I would have is why is it that you feel that a forum poster somehow has insight into the daily operations of a company and the responsibilities of its CEO (or whatever you'd like to call him)?
I also find it mildly amusing that you lead off your argument with a dig at someone else regarding asking for a link to verify information passed off as being factual. Then you go on to conclude your own post with a statement of "simple fact" that every criticism and observation boils down to a lack of management ability, but then you don't give a link to support that.
Honestly, sometimes it's like dealing with children. Actually, that's not completely right. MY kids actually understand the difference between things like the use of "literally" and "fact" because I've corrected them about how they have NOT done something "....Literally a billion times...". Similarly, if it was a "simple fact" that CR was THAT incompetent, then he wouldn't be, LITERALLY, sitting on a mountain of money laughing at you. Additionally, if it was "simple fact" then it would be an easy argument now, wouldn't it? Instead, here we are!!!!
As far as @rpmcmurphy goes, what is adequate? The average CEO on the Standard & Poor 500 makes over $13 million per year. So would $1 million a year be a bargain? I guess it's always possible he hasn't taken a dime in salary, too, which happens with plenty of start-up companies.
He made the statement, so are you directing that "why is it that you feel that a forum poster somehow has insight into the daily operations of a company and the responsibilities of its CEO" to me or him? I was simply responding to what he said. As for the 'dig' He does it on every single post he feels cant be verified. The line of yours I quoted actually shores up that assertion. Because I dont have to support my question he should.
There are facts and historical evidence of him not being able to finish ANY project he has been in charge of, and the only games he has released were ones where higher ups took him off the project or took away some, if not all of his decision making responsibilities. His most famous 'creation' would probably still be in development right now if he was left to do his thing.
But the one thing you are right about he is more than capable of separating people from their money. I wouldnt exactly call that a positive, especially when it is clear he really doesnt know how to manage it or how to use it effectively. So all that proves is there are suckers born every day and those suckers will continue to be suckered until they go broke and then Roberts has to hope he can find more sheep to fleece over the next 10 years to support him and this 'dream' he has.
I would disagree. Actually, one of the core responsibilities of a CEO, especially in this situation, is fundraising. Generally speaking, that's not going to be raising money from the public, but shaking hands with potential investors. That being said, he's been quite successful at that aspect, to the point that it's the highest crowdfunded game in history.
The fact is that he's been given production responsibilities on numerous titles, over and over again. Also, he's been given these responsibilities by the same company, for the same IP. He was producer on Wing Commander 1 through 4, Privateer, and Strike Commander. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's all Origin. So, while I agree that I've HEARD an awful lot about how he likes to micro-manage, there is anecdotal evidence that seems to contradict that, too.
In addition to that, Chris isn't Producer here, his brother is, who has been successfully releasing games even longer than Chris (if we were to factor in Chris' hiatus from games).
NOW!!! All that being said, I do agree that the CEO should NOT be micro-managing. However, that's symptomatic of a larger problem. It's an executive management problem, not a problem with a single person. Also, if you believe that 1 person is able to affect the outcome of a game being developed by 200+ then you're fooling yourself. I think that Erin being Executive Producer actually helps a lot. It isn't likely that there will be another person in the world willing to tell CR to fuck off and stay in his office than his brother. If he is micro-managing, then that's what needs to happen. There are plenty of complaints about CR, but what I hear is that it's more to do with impossible standard for quality. Should he EXPECT an "OK" game? Should we be striving for mediocrity? We will blow smoke up the ass of guys like Palmer Lucky who want to take things to the next level (even if it costs us $1500 for a new PC), but for some reason we're being critical of someone, here, who is attempting to do the same thing, but with a game.
The questions are selected and the answers are rehearsed. This shouldn't be harshly criticized like it is. Its the off the cuff uncensored questions that need to be asked and those will allow room for criticism. Don't get involved in micro-criticism of this project it will only give you a headache.
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With that out of the way I never said the topic was not well documented, just that Chris does sound like he doesn't know what the hell he is saying half the time. The crew stations was very well documented by another dev and they explained their vision for it perfectly.
I'm sorry you seem to take all SC criticism directly to heart but your typical response to any criticism is to either try and whitewash it or post a bunch of information that is loosely linked with the topic at hand to try and bury the argument.
Next time just post the actual dev article, say "this is a well written piece about crew stations" and be done with it but you are welcome to continue to quote my posts out of context even though you make yourself look foolish.
I'm glad you're not upset, because I wasn't referring to you at all
Does he always talk like that? Nope!
Nonsense. I have to agree with others that he's making it up as he goes along. Here's another video, where Roberts discusses SC aspects with serious, dedicated fans. Notice the similar "ums and ahs", while he discusses mining, and voxel technology? He's very confident in the part he discusses R&D on procedural world generation and private clubs. These are esteemed, high dollar backers like you, Erillion. Zoo organization has an Idris, which means $1000+.
Either way, the only time the guy seems even semi lucid is when he is pitching something that he thinks (knows) will make him money. Pretty much any time he talks about the inner workings he sounds like some guy they pulled out of a bar (pub) somewhere.
Single ship, a Constellation. One account.
So much for "high dollar backer".
Have fun
Something like:
* Management of 300+ employees
* Management of 4 studios in 3 countries
* Financial management of 111 M$ in crowdfunding resources
* Overall creative direction of a AAA level space game
* Spokesperson to authorities and the government
* Spokesperson to the international press
* Having children and a wife and trying to be a good father and husband
* Trying to satisfy the expectations of 1.4 million-ish fans
* etc.
Have fun
I'm sure he takes an adequate wage to more than make up for the trials and hardships of his CEO role.
The more poignant observation is that anyone that actually wants to get something done would delegate most of those things to other people.
But THAT is really the basis for every single criticism of this game. Roberts himself and his inability to MANAGE pretty much anything at any sort of competent level.
Pretty much every criticism and observations comes from that simple fact (of which there are multiple examples and historical proof). Just because those things spin off into Never Never land doesnt change the fact the guy has issues.
The question I would have is why is it that you feel that a forum poster somehow has insight into the daily operations of a company and the responsibilities of its CEO (or whatever you'd like to call him)?
I also find it mildly amusing that you lead off your argument with a dig at someone else regarding asking for a link to verify information passed off as being factual. Then you go on to conclude your own post with a statement of "simple fact" that every criticism and observation boils down to a lack of management ability, but then you don't give a link to support that.
Honestly, sometimes it's like dealing with children. Actually, that's not completely right. MY kids actually understand the difference between things like the use of "literally" and "fact" because I've corrected them about how they have NOT done something "....Literally a billion times...". Similarly, if it was a "simple fact" that CR was THAT incompetent, then he wouldn't be, LITERALLY, sitting on a mountain of money laughing at you. Additionally, if it was "simple fact" then it would be an easy argument now, wouldn't it? Instead, here we are!!!!
As far as @rpmcmurphy goes, what is adequate? The average CEO on the Standard & Poor 500 makes over $13 million per year. So would $1 million a year be a bargain? I guess it's always possible he hasn't taken a dime in salary, too, which happens with plenty of start-up companies.
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There are facts and historical evidence of him not being able to finish ANY project he has been in charge of, and the only games he has released were ones where higher ups took him off the project or took away some, if not all of his decision making responsibilities. His most famous 'creation' would probably still be in development right now if he was left to do his thing.
But the one thing you are right about he is more than capable of separating people from their money. I wouldnt exactly call that a positive, especially when it is clear he really doesnt know how to manage it or how to use it effectively. So all that proves is there are suckers born every day and those suckers will continue to be suckered until they go broke and then Roberts has to hope he can find more sheep to fleece over the next 10 years to support him and this 'dream' he has.
Jesus man, why so serious? It's a tongue-in-cheek comment aimed at all the people that bang on about CIG's finances as much as it is about adequate compensation for Roberts' chosen role.
Nope. I would disagree w.r.t. your claim above.
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Then you have the articles about Star Citizen, where the only one that has told any truth about the concept demo is attacked from all sides. It even got the Lord God Roberts to write a very incoherent letter that didn't sound like it came from someone who falls on the side of truth.
Now about how Chris Roberts talks and his ah's and um's. Lot of people do that and will never be a great speaker. I will make fun of him over it, because when I can laugh at myself I would expect him to also laugh at himself. It tends to be a good quality to laugh at one's self, which it seems like Chris Roberts does not possess.
I came into the Star Citizen picture a little late all because I started to see attacks being directed at Derek Smart who at first looked like he was some evil bad guy. Turns out that was not where the evil was residing. This really is an old story. If you watch our political process in America you will see the same type of attacks, put downs, and lies going round and round. At this time, it seems like everything is upside down. Where truth is attacked and silenced and lies get the main headline as truth. These are strange times indeed, yet it isn't fun unless you are on the side of lies and deceit.
Well time to go have fun in one of my games and forget about how the industry I been attached to and love gets destroyed from a few of the original developers that created it. That is the one thing that amazes me, made and then destroyed by those same people.
Yep strange times indeed.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Jesus man, why so logical ? How can you bring some reason into these discussions ?! How dare you present some verifably facts ?!?!1!
Have fun
I would disagree. Actually, one of the core responsibilities of a CEO, especially in this situation, is fundraising. Generally speaking, that's not going to be raising money from the public, but shaking hands with potential investors. That being said, he's been quite successful at that aspect, to the point that it's the highest crowdfunded game in history.
The fact is that he's been given production responsibilities on numerous titles, over and over again. Also, he's been given these responsibilities by the same company, for the same IP. He was producer on Wing Commander 1 through 4, Privateer, and Strike Commander. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that's all Origin. So, while I agree that I've HEARD an awful lot about how he likes to micro-manage, there is anecdotal evidence that seems to contradict that, too.
In addition to that, Chris isn't Producer here, his brother is, who has been successfully releasing games even longer than Chris (if we were to factor in Chris' hiatus from games).
NOW!!! All that being said, I do agree that the CEO should NOT be micro-managing. However, that's symptomatic of a larger problem. It's an executive management problem, not a problem with a single person. Also, if you believe that 1 person is able to affect the outcome of a game being developed by 200+ then you're fooling yourself. I think that Erin being Executive Producer actually helps a lot. It isn't likely that there will be another person in the world willing to tell CR to fuck off and stay in his office than his brother. If he is micro-managing, then that's what needs to happen. There are plenty of complaints about CR, but what I hear is that it's more to do with impossible standard for quality. Should he EXPECT an "OK" game? Should we be striving for mediocrity? We will blow smoke up the ass of guys like Palmer Lucky who want to take things to the next level (even if it costs us $1500 for a new PC), but for some reason we're being critical of someone, here, who is attempting to do the same thing, but with a game.
Crazkanuk
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