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New players and the expansion. Massive barrier to entry. You have been warned.
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There are tons of comments on this and im sure someone has pointed it out. But here I go
A. Ilvl 90 is stupid easy to get its about a days worth of runing instances.
B. The heavensward story started in patch 2.55 just because you didnt want to deal with the story doesnt mean you should be able to skip it that has never been a final fantasy way. Yes in 11 you didnt need to do the previous stories to do the expacs but they were never linked.
So it actually very very welcoming to new players given they want to actually do the story and put forth a little effort into the action side of the game.
Drops aren't the same as rewards - I'm saying it should be the reward to guarantee you get i90 gear, and Minstrel's Ballad isn't a Main Story Quest.
I'm saying that I should be able to do nothing but main quests and as long as I stay, say, a Warrior the whole time I would have an i90 gear set by Steps. No RNG. If I switched, I would have to go back and rely on drops and outside forces to get decked out but i90 being the minimal should be supported by the main story by offering the gear.
The Main Story in my opinion should help you level and ilvl to the minimum requirements of the story and its dungeons as long as you remain one class/job.
Confirmed that this is an MMO that makes you work for things.
First and foremost -- I've been saying this all along -- it's a JRPG first and a MMO second. It treats the storyline as its baby and ties most everything to it, along with having countless attunements to unlock 95% of the game's systems and dungeons. It is a MMO in a Final Fantasy flare, and if one isn't playing for the story or the community, then they probably shouldn't be playing at all (speaking in general and not to the OP).
That said, it's the first MMO in a long time that has actually given me a sense of accomplishment when all was said and done and I got to the ending credits (again, it treats itself as a Final Fantasy game first, and therefore actually has an ending with credits). Though this may be in part due to beating Steps of Faith pre-nerf when it was a skill check that most people failed.
Until that nerf, it was pretty much entirely a game that did not care if something was too hard for the majority of people.
The questline for 2.1-2.2 was pretty bland as a whole, though.
Edit: Getting an item level of 90 is really easy at the moment. We're still waiting to see if they'll make it even easier so it isn't even a small issue.
Talk about entitlement and wanting things handed to you. It literally takes just a few hours to get a full set of iLvl110+ gear, you don't even need to bother getting iLvl90 gear at this point. You can ding level 50 through the story quests, and reach iLvl100 in just a few hours play time.
It actually takes longer to complete the main story quests than it does to get iLvl100 gear.
It is most certainly not a sandbox. It is a story heavy themepark with a wide variety of rides and widening.
If you can accept the game for what it is and it has things you enjoy, then issues like this will not be an issue no longer.
They did this up to the starting level 50 content through job quests. Though I'm sure they'll come up with a system to get people past the item level requirement and just focus on story once new content is released.
That said, you can get tomes by doing dungeons, which can straight out buy 100-110 items (in addition to said drops). If you have the gil, you can simply buy 110 items as well.
Some are able to get an item level of 90 in just a few hours after hitting level 50 on a class.
By focusing on the main storyline, it does yield plenty of gil to which you can purchase player crafted armor/gear that meets that requirement. Even if you can't purchase it, you could level a crafting class in order to craft it.
I doubt that people will ignore low level content as they level other classes and there will be plenty of people doing the daily roulettes enabling you to continue to farm various trials in hopes that you get the drop that you want.
You can easily get to i90 using soldiery tomes to purchase i100 gear and it doesn't take that long, especially with the main scenario quests.
tl;dr There are plenty of ways to get the gear you need.
Nope. They also start at level 30 though, so I would say it's a wash there.
damn oh well glad I waited to buy it
Handed to me? Don't make me laugh! I'm saying you should get the gear through doing Main Story quests. Do you remember what that entails? A trial just about every patch, and 2.4 and 2.5 have a dungeon each as well. Handed to me? You are still doing work.
I'm saying the game - since it has an ilvl and lvl requisite - should therefore make it so I can meet that requisite through their quest line without grinding.
In a single player Final Fantasy, there is no ilvl and lvl requirements to continue the story. Though not easy, I can play an entire Final Fantasy without having to grind once and thus enjoy the entire story without any actual road bumps that make me do something considered optional to reach the next part of the story.
FFXIV is an MMO, it can't do that so I say it should then make it so as long as you stick to one job you should be able to enjoy the main story without having to grind. This isn't entitlement - this is about the game recognizing that it should give you the minimum requirement for dungeons and trials so that players can enjoy the story in one go instead of being spotty and requiring you to do optional content to get through required content.
I don't want them giving me i90 gear by talking to so and so NPC and then meeting so and so NPC. I want them to give me a piece of i90 gear when I beat Moogle Mog, and another when I take down Leviathan and Ramuh and get through Snowcloak and beat Shiva. And, only when I do these for the story quest - not whenever I do them. I don't want Ramuh Hard to give me a piece of i90 gear when I queue up for it, just for completing the quest.
I also think it should be least visually appealing of gear since it's a freebie to meet the minimal requirement.
My point is, the Main Story Quest should give you all the tools you need to complete it - not force you to go through optional content for it. It should only be this way for a single class. I can get my Warrior through Steps of Faith by doing the Main Scenario, if I want my Paladin to get through it I have to do the usual route.
It amuses me that Foom was always one of the people who said that FF has a lot more to offer than the 100th copy of WoW style dungeons and gear grind.
Now the game blocks him from trying the expansion and all the fans tell him he has been doing it wrong from the beginning - that he should have played the WoW copy parts instead of doing what he really enjoys about the game.
Hey, Foom! Good news, it sounds like you'll be able to enter two Heavensward areas once you reach level 50 (aka where you are now). I'm not sure if it's me misinerpreting information though...
Reading comprehension ftw indeed.
Unfortunately you didn't properly read what I said so I fear my behind is smarter than you.
You obviously never even played through the dungeons, then. The game already basically hands you a full set of iLvl 100 gear once you've completed the main story and dungeons. Just by doing dungeons from the story, you get a bonus of 100 soldiery tokens for each one since it's your first time, on top of the normal amount you'd receive by doing them anyways. Once you've finished them all for the story, you have enough to be at least iLvl 90 from all the gear you can buy from the vendor.
Again, the main story line takes more time than acquiring iLvl100+ gear. Not sure what's hard to understand about that.
Even FF games have a certain level of grinding required to level up/get gear to beat final/optional bosses.
lol 90 ilvl is in no way a huge barrier for entry. You're very likely to have that easily before even finishing the main storyline. Do dungeons and dailies, unlock and run Crystal Tower raids, and join Hunt parties as they appear in PF, you'll have i90 in no time.
Although if it were me as the new player, I wouldn't be attempting to rush through to new content just because it's available. It'll still be there later.
You seem to have a little obsession with behinds and farts.
I will leave you to it.
I read it more like he as a primary crafter would prefer a crafting oriented quest to be recognized and allowed to enter heavensward. This actually kind of makes sense because any war effort does need sharp swords, herbs, and such to progress. That said I do not think any such alternate advancement should be EASIER than doing it the standard way -- it should be HARDER. But, if he spent all his time crafting then he is essentially a grandmaster artisan guy who lives on a hill hand makes swords for the highest heroes, and he has already achieved pretty much what would be needed.
Well I guess it's a design decision they made. Not too different from what they did in WoW before this current expansion.
Don't remember getting rewarded in that one for storyline,in fact most ending storyline stuff was raids.
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