Played the Asian version (CN) for a bit, and loved it. The biggest problem for me was that I couldn't understand the story, but it did seem quite fun. I will admit that it looks run-of-the-mill, but still well presented with fun characters.
The combat I found to be second-to-none, by a good margin. Immersive, interactive, cool-looking, and I could feel the impact.
For me a good story + a good combat system + a good community make a great MMO. I loved playing Wildstar for a while (until the community died out..for good reasons), TERA as well, GW2 and other such games, so I will 100% certainly play Blade and Soul when it comes to the West.
We already know what will happen people rush through game in first month or 2 it's semi popular then game go F2P with cash shop after 6 months(oh wait it's already F2P and cash shop).
I see fail miles away.
Just another fluff Asian grinder(wich probably WoWified so it's ezmode and spoonfed ready for todays generation) we already have so many almost all comming from korea when those it end?
When will we get a mmo without cash shop and fluff for the kids?
Back to my solo game nothing interesting here.
Next pls...:P
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Oh surprise surprise, yet another "asian" MMO that depicts women as pubescent (save for the impossibly big tits) hookers.
Nasty.
How about this for #6 - Armor and models for female models/players that don't look like said pubescent yet-somehow-huge-boob'ed hookers?
Won't even be touching this one, no matter how good it is based on that problem alone
My wife read your comment and rolled her eyes. Get over it.
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First off, this game is based off of Anima or Manga. The characters all look like this in that art style. Also, the males are just as exaggerated as the females. So, it's not exactly exclusive to the female models. Not to mention, as someone who has been playing this mmo. I can tell you that the character creator is very extensive. You can make her even skinnier or as fat as you could imagine. I'm sure you could easily make a female character with the standards and dimensions you expect of a female.
I'm just hoping the only change is in it's translation over to English. I know I'm playing a game from another country and hope it stays that way. This includes the censorship.
I mean if I go into a restaurant for Korean food here in the US I don't expect to eat hot dogs and hamburgers.
You realize South Korea has both those things... and McDonald's.... Only the US thinks every other country besides there own and Canada is a third world country *eye-roll*
I think you missed the point. He means, if you go to a Korean restaurant you expect Korean food (even if they have hot dogs on the menu). While I disagree with him and hope they westernize it as much as possible. I at least can understand where he is coming from.
So during 45 cap they decided to release the legendary weapons, these weapons completely destroyed any balance the game once had in the arena. These are the stats for the level 45 legendary weapon.
313 Attack 88 Defence Penetration 207 Crit Chance to regen 10 Chi Chance to get "Enlightenment" stack (30% chance) 4 gem slots
Enlightenment: at 10 stacks, you this buff Health and Defence +10,000 Block and Evasion +1500 Health regen in battle +2500 Buff last 30 seconds. When the buff ends, all cooldowns are refreshed.
With 4 gem slots you can have Diamond: +20 attack Ruby: Stun on hit lasts 2/3 seconds Amethyst: More lifesteal Topaz: Damage on stunned targets
To get this weapon you needed
- 7,000 gold - 800 Soul Stone - 3 Naru gold or 120 silver - 100 Su-wol Plain Big Hero Cards - 100 Su-wol Plain Small Hero Cards - 30 Pirate Logo or 40 Pirates loot - 400 Imperial Army’s Seals - 400 Chingtien Union Seals - Superior Misty Forest Faction Seals: 48 Martial Alliance (or Hongcheon Doctrine) seals or 600 Martial Alliance(or Hongcheon Doctrine) seals
Shamelessly stolen from the general, those items single-handedly ruined all non-Korean versions of Arena-PVP. (Koreans use a fixed stat system for Arena.)
Holy hell that last picture scared me - anorexia now depicted in video games.
haha yeah . I hope I can make my girl a plus size. But looking at all the sliders for BnS perhaps we can get a shape to our liking!
You definitely can make a large woman or man. I'm sure we'll see plenty of them at launch lol.
The character creator is very flexible tho' you can't quite push it to the same levels of grotesque that we saw in Aion. Better yet, it has option to save character presets so you can save a character model created in one version of the game (China, Japan or the pirate Russian servers that we shouldn't be taking about here) ready for when NA / EU goes live.
I'm surprised that keeping up with patches from Korea isn't included on the list. It's like you guys never play imported MMOs. Recently they have expanded available races for certain classes and it would be a shame that at NA/EU release, this expansion isn't available.
Cheers.
This was mentioned in the fact that the team already stated the Western version won't be up to date with the Korean version and I view that as a positive. This gives Western players time to play the content at the same pace it was played overseas, rather than rushing through a flood of content, getting bored quickly, and running out of things to do.
So during 45 cap they decided to release the legendary weapons, these weapons completely destroyed any balance the game once had in the arena. These are the stats for the level 45 legendary weapon.
313 Attack 88 Defence Penetration 207 Crit Chance to regen 10 Chi Chance to get "Enlightenment" stack (30% chance) 4 gem slots
Enlightenment: at 10 stacks, you this buff Health and Defence +10,000 Block and Evasion +1500 Health regen in battle +2500 Buff last 30 seconds. When the buff ends, all cooldowns are refreshed.
With 4 gem slots you can have Diamond: +20 attack Ruby: Stun on hit lasts 2/3 seconds Amethyst: More lifesteal Topaz: Damage on stunned targets
To get this weapon you needed
- 7,000 gold - 800 Soul Stone - 3 Naru gold or 120 silver - 100 Su-wol Plain Big Hero Cards - 100 Su-wol Plain Small Hero Cards - 30 Pirate Logo or 40 Pirates loot - 400 Imperial Army’s Seals - 400 Chingtien Union Seals - Superior Misty Forest Faction Seals: 48 Martial Alliance (or Hongcheon Doctrine) seals or 600 Martial Alliance(or Hongcheon Doctrine) seals
Shamelessly stolen from the general, those items single-handedly ruined all non-Korean versions of Arena-PVP. (Koreans use a fixed stat system for Arena.)
One of the game's strong points is beautiful visuals and cool looking characters, so I think they've got some good potential to make some decent money from selling cosmetics.
A lot of people will still whine about it, but eh... it's impossible to please everyone.
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So during 45 cap they decided to release the legendary weapons, these weapons completely destroyed any balance the game once had in the arena. These are the stats for the level 45 legendary weapon.313 Attack88 Defence Penetration207 CritChance to regen 10 ChiChance to get "Enlightenment" stack (30% chance)4 gem slotsEnlightenment: at 10 stacks, you this buffHealth and Defence +10,000Block and Evasion +1500Health regen in battle +2500Buff last 30 seconds. When the buff ends, all cooldowns are refreshed.With 4 gem slots you can haveDiamond: +20 attackRuby: Stun on hit lasts 2/3 secondsAmethyst: More lifestealTopaz: Damage on stunned targetsTo get this weapon you needed- 7,000 gold- 800 Soul Stone- 3 Naru gold or 120 silver- 100 Su-wol Plain Big Hero Cards- 100 Su-wol Plain Small Hero Cards- 30 Pirate Logo or 40 Pirates loot- 400 Imperial Army’s Seals- 400 Chingtien Union Seals- Superior Misty Forest Faction Seals: 48 Martial Alliance (or Hongcheon Doctrine) seals or 600 Martial Alliance(or Hongcheon Doctrine) sealsThis is what it was like trying to kill someone who had a legendary weapon.
Shamelessly stolen from the general, those items single-handedly ruined all non-Korean versions of Arena-PVP. (Koreans use a fixed stat system for Arena.)
Gold Buyers become extremely empowered.
I've talked to Omeed on his twitch, and NCsoft has repeatedly said the NA/EU version will be following the Korean version. That means gear is going to be equalized in the Arena PVP. A lvl 20 will be able to go up against a lvl 45. So in the Arena you will have nothing to worry about when it comes to Legendary weapons.
This is awesome news, the thing I hate the most about mmo pvp is the gear grind (in all expect a couple). If there is some venue to play on an even footing I am sold.
The right wing nuts are destroying what left of it. If I was you, I would be more concerned that you are paying taxes for science classes teaching creationism to your daughter lol. But, I suppose people will complain about anything nowadays.
This is a flat out lie and propaganda.
Last time I checked they are the ones forcing creationism into science classes and denying scientific facts. But, you're right. We all should learn in Biology class how many animals Noah forgot to put on his magic school bus.
So during 45 cap they decided to release the legendary weapons, these weapons completely destroyed any balance the game once had in the arena. These are the stats for the level 45 legendary weapon.313 Attack88 Defence Penetration207 CritChance to regen 10 ChiChance to get "Enlightenment" stack (30% chance)4 gem slotsEnlightenment: at 10 stacks, you this buffHealth and Defence +10,000Block and Evasion +1500Health regen in battle +2500Buff last 30 seconds. When the buff ends, all cooldowns are refreshed.With 4 gem slots you can haveDiamond: +20 attackRuby: Stun on hit lasts 2/3 secondsAmethyst: More lifestealTopaz: Damage on stunned targetsTo get this weapon you needed- 7,000 gold- 800 Soul Stone- 3 Naru gold or 120 silver- 100 Su-wol Plain Big Hero Cards- 100 Su-wol Plain Small Hero Cards- 30 Pirate Logo or 40 Pirates loot- 400 Imperial Army’s Seals- 400 Chingtien Union Seals- Superior Misty Forest Faction Seals: 48 Martial Alliance (or Hongcheon Doctrine) seals or 600 Martial Alliance(or Hongcheon Doctrine) sealsThis is what it was like trying to kill someone who had a legendary weapon.
Shamelessly stolen from the general, those items single-handedly ruined all non-Korean versions of Arena-PVP. (Koreans use a fixed stat system for Arena.)
Gold Buyers become extremely empowered.
I've talked to Omeed on his twitch, and NCsoft has repeatedly said the NA/EU version will be following the Korean version. That means gear is going to be equalized in the Arena PVP. A lvl 20 will be able to go up against a lvl 45. So in the Arena you will have nothing to worry about when it comes to Legendary weapons.
This is awesome news, the thing I hate the most about mmo pvp is the gear grind (in all expect a couple). If there is some venue to play on an even footing I am sold.
I agree completely. In Tera, the pvp is very one sided when it comes to gear. Then they started putting in pvp instances that equaled players gear. I would love to see more of this.
I just hope they dont censor the NA version. I think we are adult enough not to be offended by extra skin. Just put some cloths on to your character, period.
If they censor the NA version and treat us like a bunch of crying babies that find everything offensive then i will stick to the Russian servers. I dont mind their broken english patch.
There was an article somewhere about that and they claimed we'd be getting the uncensored version
I just hope they dont censor the NA version. I think we are adult enough not to be offended by extra skin. Just put some cloths on to your character, period.
If they censor the NA version and treat us like a bunch of crying babies that find everything offensive then i will stick to the Russian servers. I dont mind their broken english patch.
There was an article somewhere about that and they claimed we'd be getting the uncensored version
I am sure that will be very reassuring, after all, wasn't Scarlet Blade hugely popular for just that reason
I just hope they dont censor the NA version. I think we are adult enough not to be offended by extra skin. Just put some cloths on to your character, period.
If they censor the NA version and treat us like a bunch of crying babies that find everything offensive then i will stick to the Russian servers. I dont mind their broken english patch.
There was an article somewhere about that and they claimed we'd be getting the uncensored version
A statement to that effect was made in a post "Respecting the Vision" on the official website back in 2012 but vanished when said site finally got updated 2 weeks ago (there's a link to it buried in their Twitter but it throws up a 404).
However the trailers on the current version indicate they expect a ESRB M / PEGI 16 rating and as far as I'm aware there's nothing in the game as originally made that would warrant anything higher. Also the current CM or product manager has claimed on the B&S twitter feed that the Western release will be uncensored.
I just hope they dont censor the NA version. I think we are adult enough not to be offended by extra skin. Just put some cloths on to your character, period.
If they censor the NA version and treat us like a bunch of crying babies that find everything offensive then i will stick to the Russian servers. I dont mind their broken english patch.
There was an article somewhere about that and they claimed we'd be getting the uncensored version
That's great to hear. Nothing gets under my skin more than these stuffy self-righteous western types criticizing Asian developed games because they are supposedly "over-sexualized." Little do they realize that their offense is inherently grounded in their own filthy minds based off of their own dirty preconceived perceptions. Dirty thoughts do not race through all of our minds when we see panties on a cartoon of a girl in a video game, regardless of her age. Nor do we all have our faces pinned to the screen with spit dribbling down the sides of our mouths because we see shapely cartoon characters in a video game.
I find it insulting that this is the first thing that comes into their minds when they see Asian games. It is so backward thinking to judge, criticize, or otherwise dare insult another culture, or other people, for not seeing things the way they do. These are games we are playing. Get over yourselves and stop being so pretentious. If you can't do that, then just don't play the games and let the rest of us who are not as easily offended by pixel cartoons enjoy these games for what they are, ... a game. Nothing more, nothing less. No one is forcing these games on you. You are free to avoid them if that is your wish.
Or they can stop giving in to the SJW PC crowd and stop treating westerners as if they are culturally retarded and NOT do that.
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I honestly don't know what people expect from NCsoon™.
I played Aion since the release day.
5. You don't have to worry about the cash shop for now, they introduce pay to win items later on. Just check the Aion NA shop now.
4.There is honestly nothing to balance, with a destroyer you can just basically spin through entire instances with a few auto attack. This is not an rpg, it's an open world arcade fighting simulator.
3.Well, anyone who played Aion can assure you, the content will be much behind the KR version, regardless of what they are saying. Maybe after a year we'll get new content, cuz you know, as they stated it many times, translation is a lot of work. That's what they used to say when we asked why are we so much behind the NA version in EU.
2.The localization mostly consists of what they think we want. And they has no clue about the needs of the western community. They refuse to listen to their playerbase. I remember how the Aion forums were full of "server merge needed asap topics" cause the game was deserted. We waited almost a year for that to happen. The idea was good, something finally happened that the community wanted for a long time. The execution? They managed to ruin the game completely, by allowing people to free transfer after the merges. Asmos went to Asmo dominated servers, and Elyos was either left on their own, or they went to Elyos dominated servers for easy mode. The fact there were faction rewards for completing certain tasks, rewarded with a lot abyss points, certainly didn't help the situation.
1. I'll just gona roll my eyes at this point.
I do believe, that no one should get their hopes up.
NCsoon™ won't fail to deliver their usual incompetence.
And a friendly reminder of what their "eye on community" was like back in the days.
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Played the Asian version (CN) for a bit, and loved it. The biggest problem for me was that I couldn't understand the story, but it did seem quite fun. I will admit that it looks run-of-the-mill, but still well presented with fun characters.
The combat I found to be second-to-none, by a good margin. Immersive, interactive, cool-looking, and I could feel the impact.
For me a good story + a good combat system + a good community make a great MMO. I loved playing Wildstar for a while (until the community died out..for good reasons), TERA as well, GW2 and other such games, so I will 100% certainly play Blade and Soul when it comes to the West.
At least you can fix the stick thin with a slider can you fix the modeling industry with a slider ?
I am also hoping the support will be very good.
- pay-to-win is never a good model -
HAHAHAHAHA
sure...
We already know what will happen people rush through game in first month or 2 it's semi popular then game go F2P with cash shop after 6 months(oh wait it's already F2P and cash shop).
I see fail miles away.
Just another fluff Asian grinder(wich probably WoWified so it's ezmode and spoonfed ready for todays generation) we already have so many almost all comming from korea when those it end?
When will we get a mmo without cash shop and fluff for the kids?
Back to my solo game nothing interesting here.
Next pls...:P
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Well, when it comes to MMOs in the past few years, I think it's safe to say: "hope is just a postponed disappointment."
Can't see B&S will be any different.
First off, this game is based off of Anima or Manga. The characters all look like this in that art style. Also, the males are just as exaggerated as the females. So, it's not exactly exclusive to the female models. Not to mention, as someone who has been playing this mmo. I can tell you that the character creator is very extensive. You can make her even skinnier or as fat as you could imagine. I'm sure you could easily make a female character with the standards and dimensions you expect of a female.
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I think you missed the point. He means, if you go to a Korean restaurant you expect Korean food (even if they have hot dogs on the menu). While I disagree with him and hope they westernize it as much as possible. I at least can understand where he is coming from.
You definitely can make a large woman or man. I'm sure we'll see plenty of them at launch lol.
You're doing God's work, son
The character creator is very flexible tho' you can't quite push it to the same levels of grotesque that we saw in Aion. Better yet, it has option to save character presets so you can save a character model created in one version of the game (China, Japan or the pirate Russian servers that we shouldn't be taking about here) ready for when NA / EU goes live.
This was mentioned in the fact that the team already stated the Western version won't be up to date with the Korean version and I view that as a positive. This gives Western players time to play the content at the same pace it was played overseas, rather than rushing through a flood of content, getting bored quickly, and running out of things to do.
It also gives time for localization!
Which make believe god?
One of the game's strong points is beautiful visuals and cool looking characters, so I think they've got some good potential to make some decent money from selling cosmetics.
A lot of people will still whine about it, but eh... it's impossible to please everyone.
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This is awesome news, the thing I hate the most about mmo pvp is the gear grind (in all expect a couple). If there is some venue to play on an even footing I am sold.
Last time I checked they are the ones forcing creationism into science classes and denying scientific facts. But, you're right. We all should learn in Biology class how many animals Noah forgot to put on his magic school bus.
I agree completely. In Tera, the pvp is very one sided when it comes to gear. Then they started putting in pvp instances that equaled players gear. I would love to see more of this.
There was an article somewhere about that and they claimed we'd be getting the uncensored version
I am sure that will be very reassuring, after all, wasn't Scarlet Blade hugely popular for just that reason
A statement to that effect was made in a post "Respecting the Vision" on the official website back in 2012 but vanished when said site finally got updated 2 weeks ago (there's a link to it buried in their Twitter but it throws up a 404).
However the trailers on the current version indicate they expect a ESRB M / PEGI 16 rating and as far as I'm aware there's nothing in the game as originally made that would warrant anything higher. Also the current CM or product manager has claimed on the B&S twitter feed that the Western release will be uncensored.
Here
Blade & Soul customize screenshot (search in google at Korean)
NA guys hate big boobs and skinny?
That's great to hear. Nothing gets under my skin more than these stuffy self-righteous western types criticizing Asian developed games because they are supposedly "over-sexualized." Little do they realize that their offense is inherently grounded in their own filthy minds based off of their own dirty preconceived perceptions. Dirty thoughts do not race through all of our minds when we see panties on a cartoon of a girl in a video game, regardless of her age. Nor do we all have our faces pinned to the screen with spit dribbling down the sides of our mouths because we see shapely cartoon characters in a video game.
I find it insulting that this is the first thing that comes into their minds when they see Asian games. It is so backward thinking to judge, criticize, or otherwise dare insult another culture, or other people, for not seeing things the way they do. These are games we are playing. Get over yourselves and stop being so pretentious. If you can't do that, then just don't play the games and let the rest of us who are not as easily offended by pixel cartoons enjoy these games for what they are, ... a game. Nothing more, nothing less. No one is forcing these games on you. You are free to avoid them if that is your wish.
"Material may have to be changed or censored..."
Or they can stop giving in to the SJW PC crowd and stop treating westerners as if they are culturally retarded and NOT do that.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
I honestly don't know what people expect from NCsoon™.
I played Aion since the release day.
5. You don't have to worry about the cash shop for now, they introduce pay to win items later on. Just check the Aion NA shop now.
4.There is honestly nothing to balance, with a destroyer you can just basically spin through entire instances with a few auto attack. This is not an rpg, it's an open world arcade fighting simulator.
3.Well, anyone who played Aion can assure you, the content will be much behind the KR version, regardless of what they are saying. Maybe after a year we'll get new content, cuz you know, as they stated it many times, translation is a lot of work. That's what they used to say when we asked why are we so much behind the NA version in EU.
2.The localization mostly consists of what they think we want. And they has no clue about the needs of the western community. They refuse to listen to their playerbase. I remember how the Aion forums were full of "server merge needed asap topics" cause the game was deserted. We waited almost a year for that to happen. The idea was good, something finally happened that the community wanted for a long time. The execution? They managed to ruin the game completely, by allowing people to free transfer after the merges. Asmos went to Asmo dominated servers, and Elyos was either left on their own, or they went to Elyos dominated servers for easy mode. The fact there were faction rewards for completing certain tasks, rewarded with a lot abyss points, certainly didn't help the situation.
1. I'll just gona roll my eyes at this point.
I do believe, that no one should get their hopes up.
NCsoon™ won't fail to deliver their usual incompetence.
And a friendly reminder of what their "eye on community" was like back in the days.