Who even installs anything on their pc without selecting Custom Install? As for Raptr is clearly stated that its a part of the express install. /facepalm
Since when is it ok to ad bloatware to a driver install?
I have been using PC for 2 decades now, and I have never seen bloatware being added to a driver until now.
Its AMD's Optimization software and its an optional install. If you are installing anything on your pc without reading then that's your fault. AMD is not installing anything on your pc, you are.
I think everyone knows how adware works thank you. People click Next several times, and the default option ads adware if you're clicking Next. And before people know it, they have adware on their PC.
A driver install should never include bloatware.
I can't disagree with the last sentence. but people who choose to remain ignorant of what is must accept the consequences. Choosing to not read something that is important like a driver install has consequences.
Then clearly you are providing a bad customer experience. Yes we know what Raptr is, but most poeple do not. They would not even know if having it is better or worse for your system. I think it is a bad practice.
I think everyone knows how adware works thank you. People click Next several times, and the default option ads adware if you're clicking Next. And before people know it, they have adware on their PC.
A driver install should never include bloatware.
I can't disagree with the last sentence. but people who choose to remain ignorant of what is must accept the consequences. Choosing to not read something that is important like a driver install has consequences.
Then clearly you are providing a bad customer experience. Yes we know what Raptr is, but most poeple do not. They would not even know if having it is better or worse for your system. I think it is a bad practice.
I didn't know what the Raptr application did while installing the drivers. You know what I did do? Before going past that window page I did some online research and found out what it was. After doing that I declined the option to install it.
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But whatever you do, don't raid your drives on a AMD, their raiding software is the worst I seen and makes me long for raptr (yeah, thats not really on topic, just a tip).
What RAID software does AMD make?
AMD RAID expert. When I updated from Intel to AMd 4 years ago (had the same drives raided on Intel before).hell stared. First of all liked the program to kick out one of the harddrives of the raid (raided with raid 5), it did it once every 3 weeks or so. Now, if that happens in an Intel system it tells you so and just gives you the option with a single click to fix it, it is something that happens very rarely.
With Raidexpert you will have to access the program to fix things from your browser, it is time consuming and annoying. The whole program feels like it have been coded by a drunk monkey.
Therefore: if you want a computer with raided drives, try to get an Intel. And I like to use Raid 5 on my computers, you drives will be faster and everything is far safer then on something not using raid. Sure, it do cost you a bit space but 25% space for almost 3 times as fast data access and 100% safety if a drive dies is worth it to me.
And besides using raiding myself I have built some custom computers to friends with raiding, getting a drive kickked on an Intel system is very rare. Not to mention that an acceptabel motherboard for my AMD hexacore with raiding wasn't exactly cheap, it was ASUS top of the line so I doubt it was behind the problem, have heard many similar stories from other AMD users.
AMD do make fine CPUs if you want something a bit cheaper than Intels very expensive top of the line CPUs, but don't use raiding on them.
Often enough, like with Flash, you have to uncheck the adware before downloading. Which is both good and bad. Good because you don't download adware. Bad because once you downloaded it, it's there.
While i always use custom install, i believe at least companies like Nvidia and AMD should not resort to such things. I can understand it in some freeware from a hobby developer or small company if he gets money from it, but multi-billion dollar companies, who pay more for developing a new version of their product than any of us will ever get in their whole life?
Who charge several hundred dollars for each product? Preferably $500+ each year (from their point of view)?
*At most* they can advertise it during the installation. Either that, or give me the high end card from last year for free when the new generation is released. Either ads, or money. Both is just shamelessly abusing their monopol (oligopol).
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I want to get rid of GeForce Experience and 3D Photo viewer. So yeah, it's cross-aisle abuse. Raptr is just AMD's counter to GeForce Experience... so I blame nVidia for that one on both counts.
At least they don't install Java, Yahoo! web browser tool bar, Pando Media Booster, and the Ask.com deal of the day.
Just get rid of them all if you don't need 'em. I use Geforce experience myself but just because I'm too lazy to constantly check for new drivers and have loads of memory and a really quick CPU.
To be honest did my original GFX driver disc not have geforce experience as standard anyways, just as an extra option which feels better. And I clear out everything I don't use once a month or so.
Loke
I second that too. I also have Geforce experience installed because I am to lazy to check for new drivers. I use to do that so much when I loved building computers. Now since I work in IT I can give a Rats @$$ if my drivers are updated every time a new one comes out. I get a noticed hey its out. Ok I will do it when I feel like it. Click install Ok time for bed.
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Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
I want to get rid of GeForce Experience and 3D Photo viewer. So yeah, it's cross-aisle abuse. Raptr is just AMD's counter to GeForce Experience... so I blame nVidia for that one on both counts.
At least they don't install Java, Yahoo! web browser tool bar, Pando Media Booster, and the Ask.com deal of the day.
You could also uncheck adware installs instead of mindlessly clicking "I agree" and" yes" on every ticker you see.
They ask you politely if they can install crap on your pc, if you accept, it is not their fault.
No they do NOT "ask you politely". They assume. If they were asking politely then they would have the user opt-in instead of automatically checking the box for you. Asking politely assumes the answer will be NO until they hear otherwise.
The user and all related content has been deleted.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Raptr can be removed from 'Programs and Features' independent of the driver if you ever make the mistake of using a express install.
I too have made the mistake of once or twice just using the express option when installing AMD drivers, To me its just shady that they would bundle it in with the normal driver installation instead of having a separate check box to "Install raptr" but i guess that's just how adware works.
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Just get rid of them all if you don't need 'em. I use Geforce experience myself but just because I'm too lazy to constantly check for new drivers and have loads of memory and a really quick CPU.
To be honest did my original GFX driver disc not have geforce experience as standard anyways, just as an extra option which feels better. And I clear out everything I don't use once a month or so.
Loke
I second that too. I also have Geforce experience installed because I am to lazy to check for new drivers. I use to do that so much when I loved building computers. Now since I work in IT I can give a Rats @$$ if my drivers are updated every time a new one comes out. I get a noticed hey its out. Ok I will do it when I feel like it. Click install Ok time for bed.
LOL, I doubt we are the only ones.
The thing is that as long as you just have a few active programs running in the background youre good on a modern computer (unless they are really incompetently made of course, certain programs eat resources). The real problem comes when you get many, a yahoo toolbar there, raptr here and so on add up. When I fix computers for my buddies I sometimes find a scary number of programs launching when they start up...
Me myself don't exactly work in IT but I do code machines in CNC. Still loves hardware though.
But constantly checking a homepage just feels like wasting my time. I care little about Geforce experience other functions except maybe that it do optimize my 780 card in certain games.
Like someone said before, always do custom installation.
I used to like Raptr but after they became partners with AMD it doesnt feel like Raptr anymore, plus some features dont even work unless you have the newer video cards... thats absurd.
I check my running processes....there is some program called Raptr running alongside explorer.
I'm thinking...how can this be...I haven't even been online and now I have bloatware on my PC? What's going on?
Apparently AMD installs bloatware like Raptr when you install a driver.
Why. Why do they package their driver with bloatware.
I uninstalled it, but I didn't want it, I don't want my clean register to get messy with **** like bloatware
Stop doing that AMD.
It only took me ONE time to use an AMD anything and I never looked back again.
AMD users deserve it..Sad to say.
AMD is crap, always has been, Always will be.
But..That's just me.
AMD :
Sorry, I don't let others try to justify themselves based on THEIR OPINION or SCREENSHOTS. I should have elaborated more....
Sure the graphics are nice but....
AMD= Loud, Cheap, Run Hot, Updates can be a joke.
NVidia= Quiet, Cool, More expensive.
It's why AMD are cheaper than NVidia. You get what you pay for.
But again, (The last line from my first post which you seemed to miss)...That's just me!
My GTX970 runs The Witcher 3 on Ultra and the Fans do not even come on until cooling is needed. They never go above 35% and Temp never over 73C. Should try one, bet you'll never look back. But...
Originally posted by Avanah Sorry, I don't let others try to justify themselves based on THEIR OPINION or SCREENSHOTS. I should have elaborated more....Sure the graphics are nice but....AMD= Loud, Cheap, Run Hot, Updates can be a joke. NVidia= Quiet, Cool, More expensive.It's why AMD are cheaper than NVidia. You get what you pay for.
That's funny, Just a couple of years ago that list would have been almost the opposite: nVidia was the Loud, Hot, Slower card... but it was still more expensive. And people still bought them.
Both sides have updates that are a joke from time to time. You can always tell someone has no clue when they pull the driver card.
I want to get rid of GeForce Experience and 3D Photo viewer. So yeah, it's cross-aisle abuse. Raptr is just AMD's counter to GeForce Experience... so I blame nVidia for that one on both counts.
At least they don't install Java, Yahoo! web browser tool bar, Pando Media Booster, and the Ask.com deal of the day.
You could also uncheck adware installs instead of mindlessly clicking "I agree" and" yes" on every ticker you see.
They ask you politely if they can install crap on your pc, if you accept, it is not their fault.
No they do NOT "ask you politely". They assume. If they were asking politely then they would have the user opt-in instead of automatically checking the box for you. Asking politely assumes the answer will be NO until they hear otherwise.
Well, let me rephrase my statement then.
They 'force' you in a very aggressive way to install adware by letting you decide to choose 'yes' at the very obvious "yes I want adware" options.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
I check my running processes....there is some program called Raptr running alongside explorer.
I'm thinking...how can this be...I haven't even been online and now I have bloatware on my PC? What's going on?
Apparently AMD installs bloatware like Raptr when you install a driver.
Why. Why do they package their driver with bloatware.
I uninstalled it, but I didn't want it, I don't want my clean register to get messy with **** like bloatware
Stop doing that AMD.
It only took me ONE time to use an AMD anything and I never looked back again.
AMD users deserve it..Sad to say.
AMD is crap, always has been, Always will be.
But..That's just me.
AMD :
Sorry, I don't let others try to justify themselves based on THEIR OPINION or SCREENSHOTS. I should have elaborated more....
Sure the graphics are nice but....
AMD= Loud, Cheap, Run Hot, Updates can be a joke.
NVidia= Quiet, Cool, More expensive.
It's why AMD are cheaper than NVidia. You get what you pay for.
But again, (The last line from my first post which you seemed to miss)...That's just me!
My GTX970 runs The Witcher 3 on Ultra and the Fans do not even come on until cooling is needed. They never go above 35% and Temp never over 73C. Should try one, bet you'll never look back. But...
That's just me!
my 7870 crossfired run 39c max settings. My cpu fx8350 run on max settings at 53c
73c to me, that is pretty hot. My 5850HD didnt even run that hot.
I would agree, that is just you. Nvidia ran extremely hot for me, upwards to 90c .
With the MSI fans I sometime shine a light into the case to make sure they are on, cause I dont hear anyting
I do let my screenshots do the talking, cause I don't see many people posting actual gameplay shots from nvidia or Intel. You can go and look through my screenshots page and see people wonder how I get such amazing screenshots , simple answer, AMD for me.
Fixes in red.
Anyway...
Sorry your NVidia ran hot for you. Should try to cool your system better. It's YOU, not the card. Simple conclusion.
I run a GTX970 in an OC i5 2500K and the fans on the GTX do not even come on until cooling is needed. The Witcher 3 on ULTRA (yes, not a typo) gets the temp to 75c MAX and the fans on the GPU do not even pass 35% use. HAHA.
If your NVidia Card ran that hot and you used the same system on your AMD and say it didn't overheat, I am calling you a liar, sorry.
AMD cards are known to overheat way more than NVidia Cards in the past.
my 7870 crossfired run 39c max settings. My cpu fx8350 run on max settings at 53c
73c to me, that is pretty hot. My 5850HD didnt even run that hot.
I would agree, that is just you. Nvidia ran extremely hot for me, upwards to 90c .
With the MSI fans I sometime shine a light into the case to make sure they are on, cause I dont hear anyting
I do let my screenshots do the talking, cause I don't see many people posting actual gameplay shots from nvidia or Intel. You can go and look through my screenshots page and see people wonder how I get such amazing screenshots , simple answer, AMD.
Well, Nvidias FERMI cards did run pretty hot, and it didn't help that many people put them in pretty small cases without enough fans. But I think they are talking about CPUs when they are saying that AMD tend to get hot, they are usually a bit hotter than Intels CPUs.
My last computer was an AMD but I used a liquid cooling system so it never got particularly hot.
But AMD have lately fallen a bit after, they have indeed been before Nvidia and Intel at times ut aren't right now.
Right now I have an I7-5820K with DDR4 and a GTX 780 card (which I had a while in my Phenomenah II x6 before I updated last time), it gave maximum performance for the cash I was willing to spend at the time. The AMD CPU game me most the time before that. I will get a new graphics card next gen though.
But it also depends on what you use your computer for, different CPUs and GPUs do different tasks better.
And another thing with graphics card, it also matter who built the card, if they cheapen out with the heatsink and fans your card will be hotter no matter if they put AMD or NVIDIA in it.
The thing with screenshots however is that it matter which game you play, certain games works better with AMD cards, others with NVIDIA so even a card that generally perform worse can run certain games far better than a card from the other manufacturer that generally performs better. That is however less common now then it was few years back.
Originally posted by Avanah Sorry your NVidia ran hot for you. Should try to cool your system better. It's YOU, not the card. Simple conclusion.I run a GTX970 in an OC i5 2500K and the fans on the GTX do not even come on until cooling is needed. The Witcher 3 on ULTRA (yes, not a typo) gets the temp to 75c MAX and the fans on the GPU do not even pass 35% use. HAHA.If your NVidia Card ran that hot and you used the same system on your AMD and say it didn't overheat, I am calling you a liar, sorry.AMD cards are known to overheat way more than NVidia Cards in the past.
Sorry your NVidia ran hot for you. Should try to cool your system better. It's YOU, not the card. Simple conclusion.
I run a GTX970 in an OC i5 2500K and the fans on the GTX do not even come on until cooling is needed. The Witcher 3 on ULTRA (yes, not a typo) gets the temp to 75c MAX and the fans on the GPU do not even pass 35% use. HAHA.
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Yeah, but the FERMI series card (the 400s) actually did have serious heating problems, google it. OP must have ad one of those.
Now, I had a 480 once and the fans did starting to sound like a Fokker when I played AoC. And I have good cooling, in fact is my 780 card very cool even when I max out new games, I can't even hear the fan and I still use the same old Chieftech tower I had the last 15 years.
I recently updated my AMD video drivers and I don't see any bloatware from it. My guess is that it was the "Gaming Evolved App" on the list of things that you could install. Uncheck it and it doesn't install.
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How hot a chip gets depends on how much heat it puts out and what cooling system is tasked with keeping it cool. For the most part, the latter is up to AMD's and Nvidia's board partners, not AMD and Nvidia themselves. Furthermore, a number of the board partners are the same for AMD as for Nvidia.
How loud a card gets depends entirely on the cooling system. The chip itself doesn't make any noise; the fans from the cooling system are usually what makes the noise. And again, that's usually something not chosen by AMD or Nvidia. If the noise is coming from case fans, that's not even due to the board partners.
Now, it is easier to keep a card running cool and quiet if the chip isn't putting out very much heat in the first place. But you can keep a card suitably cool and quiet even with the GPU putting out 250 W if you stick a good cooler on it. That does not prevent a bunch of hot air coming out of the case and into your room, though that wasn't the complaint above--and if you overclock, you demonstrably don't care about that.
But when a card doesn't put out very much heat, board partners usually respond by not giving it a very good cooler, as they don't have to in order to keep it cool. That doesn't result in a cooler running card than something that would put out more heat, and it doesn't necessarily even result in a quieter running card. It does, however, result in a lower price tag, less hot air pumped into your room, and probably lower electricity bills (unless you would have used more electric heating to heat the room if not for the computer).
Furthermore, as others have noted which brand is more efficient varies from one generation to the next. Yes, Maxwell is more efficient than GCN. But Kepler was basically tied with GCN. And AMD's Evergreen and Northern Islands cards were far more efficient than Nvidia's Fermi. Go back to just before Fermi and they were about tied again unless you count the Radeon HD 4770, which was more efficient than anything else in its day. I expect that the move to 14/16 nm will shake things up again, and have no idea who will be more efficient next generation.
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Its AMD's Optimization software and its an optional install. If you are installing anything on your pc without reading then that's your fault. AMD is not installing anything on your pc, you are.
Then clearly you are providing a bad customer experience. Yes we know what Raptr is, but most poeple do not. They would not even know if having it is better or worse for your system. I think it is a bad practice.
I didn't know what the Raptr application did while installing the drivers. You know what I did do? Before going past that window page I did some online research and found out what it was. After doing that I declined the option to install it.
AMD RAID expert. When I updated from Intel to AMd 4 years ago (had the same drives raided on Intel before).hell stared. First of all liked the program to kick out one of the harddrives of the raid (raided with raid 5), it did it once every 3 weeks or so. Now, if that happens in an Intel system it tells you so and just gives you the option with a single click to fix it, it is something that happens very rarely.
With Raidexpert you will have to access the program to fix things from your browser, it is time consuming and annoying. The whole program feels like it have been coded by a drunk monkey.
Therefore: if you want a computer with raided drives, try to get an Intel. And I like to use Raid 5 on my computers, you drives will be faster and everything is far safer then on something not using raid. Sure, it do cost you a bit space but 25% space for almost 3 times as fast data access and 100% safety if a drive dies is worth it to me.
And besides using raiding myself I have built some custom computers to friends with raiding, getting a drive kickked on an Intel system is very rare. Not to mention that an acceptabel motherboard for my AMD hexacore with raiding wasn't exactly cheap, it was ASUS top of the line so I doubt it was behind the problem, have heard many similar stories from other AMD users.
AMD do make fine CPUs if you want something a bit cheaper than Intels very expensive top of the line CPUs, but don't use raiding on them.
Often enough, like with Flash, you have to uncheck the adware before downloading. Which is both good and bad. Good because you don't download adware. Bad because once you downloaded it, it's there.
While i always use custom install, i believe at least companies like Nvidia and AMD should not resort to such things. I can understand it in some freeware from a hobby developer or small company if he gets money from it, but multi-billion dollar companies, who pay more for developing a new version of their product than any of us will ever get in their whole life?
Who charge several hundred dollars for each product? Preferably $500+ each year (from their point of view)?
*At most* they can advertise it during the installation. Either that, or give me the high end card from last year for free when the new generation is released. Either ads, or money. Both is just shamelessly abusing their monopol (oligopol).
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And then I'll rise with the tide with a lust for life, I'll
Amass an army, and we'll harness a horde
And then we'll limp across the land until we stand at the shore
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I second that too. I also have Geforce experience installed because I am to lazy to check for new drivers. I use to do that so much when I loved building computers. Now since I work in IT I can give a Rats @$$ if my drivers are updated every time a new one comes out. I get a noticed hey its out. Ok I will do it when I feel like it. Click install Ok time for bed.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
No they do NOT "ask you politely". They assume. If they were asking politely then they would have the user opt-in instead of automatically checking the box for you. Asking politely assumes the answer will be NO until they hear otherwise.
Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you.
Raptr can be removed from 'Programs and Features' independent of the driver if you ever make the mistake of using a express install.
I too have made the mistake of once or twice just using the express option when installing AMD drivers, To me its just shady that they would bundle it in with the normal driver installation instead of having a separate check box to "Install raptr" but i guess that's just how adware works.
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It only took me ONE time to use an AMD anything and I never looked back again.
AMD users deserve it..Sad to say.
AMD is crap, always has been, Always will be.
But..That's just me.
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
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"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
LOL, I doubt we are the only ones.
The thing is that as long as you just have a few active programs running in the background youre good on a modern computer (unless they are really incompetently made of course, certain programs eat resources). The real problem comes when you get many, a yahoo toolbar there, raptr here and so on add up. When I fix computers for my buddies I sometimes find a scary number of programs launching when they start up...
Me myself don't exactly work in IT but I do code machines in CNC. Still loves hardware though.
But constantly checking a homepage just feels like wasting my time. I care little about Geforce experience other functions except maybe that it do optimize my 780 card in certain games.
Like someone said before, always do custom installation.
I used to like Raptr but after they became partners with AMD it doesnt feel like Raptr anymore, plus some features dont even work unless you have the newer video cards... thats absurd.
Sorry, I don't let others try to justify themselves based on THEIR OPINION or SCREENSHOTS. I should have elaborated more....
Sure the graphics are nice but....
AMD= Loud, Cheap, Run Hot, Updates can be a joke.
NVidia= Quiet, Cool, More expensive.
It's why AMD are cheaper than NVidia. You get what you pay for.
But again, (The last line from my first post which you seemed to miss)...That's just me!
My GTX970 runs The Witcher 3 on Ultra and the Fans do not even come on until cooling is needed. They never go above 35% and Temp never over 73C. Should try one, bet you'll never look back. But...
That's just me!
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
---------------------------
"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
That's funny, Just a couple of years ago that list would have been almost the opposite: nVidia was the Loud, Hot, Slower card... but it was still more expensive. And people still bought them.
Both sides have updates that are a joke from time to time. You can always tell someone has no clue when they pull the driver card.
Well, let me rephrase my statement then.
They 'force' you in a very aggressive way to install adware by letting you decide to choose 'yes' at the very obvious "yes I want adware" options.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Fixes in red.
Anyway...
Sorry your NVidia ran hot for you. Should try to cool your system better. It's YOU, not the card. Simple conclusion.
I run a GTX970 in an OC i5 2500K and the fans on the GTX do not even come on until cooling is needed. The Witcher 3 on ULTRA (yes, not a typo) gets the temp to 75c MAX and the fans on the GPU do not even pass 35% use. HAHA.
If your NVidia Card ran that hot and you used the same system on your AMD and say it didn't overheat, I am calling you a liar, sorry.
AMD cards are known to overheat way more than NVidia Cards in the past.
Also.......................................
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-graphics-cards/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2837828/graphics-card-slugfest-amd-and-nvidias-most-powerful-gaming-hardware-compared.html
Oops......Looks like NVidia wins. Upgrade and/or take better care of your system, then come back and we can talk.
Have a great day.
"My Fantasy is having two men at once...
One Cooking and One Cleaning!"
---------------------------
"A good man can make you feel sexy,
strong and able to take on the whole world...
oh sorry...that's wine...wine does that..."
Well, Nvidias FERMI cards did run pretty hot, and it didn't help that many people put them in pretty small cases without enough fans. But I think they are talking about CPUs when they are saying that AMD tend to get hot, they are usually a bit hotter than Intels CPUs.
My last computer was an AMD but I used a liquid cooling system so it never got particularly hot.
But AMD have lately fallen a bit after, they have indeed been before Nvidia and Intel at times ut aren't right now.
Right now I have an I7-5820K with DDR4 and a GTX 780 card (which I had a while in my Phenomenah II x6 before I updated last time), it gave maximum performance for the cash I was willing to spend at the time. The AMD CPU game me most the time before that. I will get a new graphics card next gen though.
But it also depends on what you use your computer for, different CPUs and GPUs do different tasks better.
And another thing with graphics card, it also matter who built the card, if they cheapen out with the heatsink and fans your card will be hotter no matter if they put AMD or NVIDIA in it.
The thing with screenshots however is that it matter which game you play, certain games works better with AMD cards, others with NVIDIA so even a card that generally perform worse can run certain games far better than a card from the other manufacturer that generally performs better. That is however less common now then it was few years back.
Really?
Yeah, but the FERMI series card (the 400s) actually did have serious heating problems, google it. OP must have ad one of those.
Now, I had a 480 once and the fans did starting to sound like a Fokker when I played AoC. And I have good cooling, in fact is my 780 card very cool even when I max out new games, I can't even hear the fan and I still use the same old Chieftech tower I had the last 15 years.
I recently updated my AMD video drivers and I don't see any bloatware from it. My guess is that it was the "Gaming Evolved App" on the list of things that you could install. Uncheck it and it doesn't install.
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How hot a chip gets depends on how much heat it puts out and what cooling system is tasked with keeping it cool. For the most part, the latter is up to AMD's and Nvidia's board partners, not AMD and Nvidia themselves. Furthermore, a number of the board partners are the same for AMD as for Nvidia.
How loud a card gets depends entirely on the cooling system. The chip itself doesn't make any noise; the fans from the cooling system are usually what makes the noise. And again, that's usually something not chosen by AMD or Nvidia. If the noise is coming from case fans, that's not even due to the board partners.
Now, it is easier to keep a card running cool and quiet if the chip isn't putting out very much heat in the first place. But you can keep a card suitably cool and quiet even with the GPU putting out 250 W if you stick a good cooler on it. That does not prevent a bunch of hot air coming out of the case and into your room, though that wasn't the complaint above--and if you overclock, you demonstrably don't care about that.
But when a card doesn't put out very much heat, board partners usually respond by not giving it a very good cooler, as they don't have to in order to keep it cool. That doesn't result in a cooler running card than something that would put out more heat, and it doesn't necessarily even result in a quieter running card. It does, however, result in a lower price tag, less hot air pumped into your room, and probably lower electricity bills (unless you would have used more electric heating to heat the room if not for the computer).
Furthermore, as others have noted which brand is more efficient varies from one generation to the next. Yes, Maxwell is more efficient than GCN. But Kepler was basically tied with GCN. And AMD's Evergreen and Northern Islands cards were far more efficient than Nvidia's Fermi. Go back to just before Fermi and they were about tied again unless you count the Radeon HD 4770, which was more efficient than anything else in its day. I expect that the move to 14/16 nm will shake things up again, and have no idea who will be more efficient next generation.