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Derek Smart's 'New' List of Demands

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  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Erillion said:
    You DO know that this video was taken during a 12 person live show on stage with thousands (well 2k ish) of people watching, do you not?  And they did the mission twice, because the attackers were too good and crippled the reactivated bomber during the first run so it could not return to the base.

    Have fun
    Fine then what the hell is the damn problem. Let people download it and try it out and allow them to release video of it. No reason to tell journalists to come to their company, let them download it and play it.
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    Brenics said:
    Fine then what the hell is the damn problem. Let people download it and try it out and allow them to release video of it. No reason to tell journalists to come to their company, let them download it and play it.
    The problem ? If you look closely in this and other videos: many many small glitches, animation problems, see/walk-through-walls-collision-problems, weapons not working as intended and overheating and exploding etc. etc.

    Takes time to find and correct all this.

    It only makes sense to release this for playtesting to the backers AFTER you corrected the problems you already know. We, the backers and testers will find plenty more bugs and imbalances during testing. Like we did before.

    Its a cooperative effort.

    Some code, some test ... and some moan and bitch  ;-) 

    Division of labour.


    Have fun


  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    Erillion said:
    Brenics said:
    Fine then what the hell is the damn problem. Let people download it and try it out and allow them to release video of it. No reason to tell journalists to come to their company, let them download it and play it.
    The problem ? If you look closely in this and other videos: many many small glitches, animation problems, see/walk-through-walls-collision-problems, weapons not working as intended and overheating and exploding etc. etc.

    Takes time to find and correct all this.

    It only makes sense to release this for playtesting to the backers AFTER you corrected the problems you already know. We, the backers and testers will find plenty more bugs and imbalances during testing. Like we did before.

    Its a cooperative effort.

    Some code, some test ... and some moan and bitch  ;-) 

    Division of labour.


    Have fun


    My problem if that was live and in front of 2k people, why does it look like they were cutting away from one thing to another. You wouldn't see stuff like that if they were actually playing it and recording.
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    edited October 2015
    @Greenbow54 ; linked the "shiny"  PR version.

    Check out these complete multi-hour unedited versions:





    https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14872-Gamescom-2015-Event-Details


    Have fun



  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    This SC Official Forum Thread (with several dev comments) may be interesting to this discussion:

    What are the pros and cons for CIG to voluntarily disclose company finances?

    https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/287621/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-for-cig-to-voluntarily-disclose-company-finances/p1

    A poll (624 votes)  is included in the thread:
    "Releasing financial statements to backers and the publci will be a good thing overall"
    Agree      24,84 %
    Disagree 75,16 %


    Dev Responses:

    *******************************************************************************************************

    DiscoLando:

    "1) Imagine you live a responsible fiscal life (whatever that means, it's kinda part of the problem here.)

    2) Now imagine your parents saw your bank records, your grandparents, your significant other, their parents and grandparents...

    3) Would they all have the same opinion of how you spent your money? Would any of them NOT have a single criticism of how you spent your money? They care about you, so they will always find someway in their minds for you to improve on how you're doing things.

    4) Which one of them would be right? You, who are spending the money for you, or them, people who care about you and only want what's best for you, but don't live your life and know your requirements?

    5) Ask 200 people what responsible fiscal spending is, and get 300+ answers.

    6) Now imagine you do this with nearly ONE MILLION parents who care about you. And the press. "

    **********************************************************************************************

    Again DiscoLando

    "Hey guys,

    OP asked for opinions on a specific subject that's of interest to some folk. Let's remember that we're leaving this thread open because it's a conversation about personal viewpoints on that particular topic. It's the kind of thing forums are good for. If this derails into outside legalities, personal attacks, employment matters or the drama outside, we're gonna close it down.

    You can share your views on this subject, just as I shared my own personal thoughts on the subject, but don't go too far off the course. Keep it civil, keep it respectful, keep it on topic and we can continue to leave this open.

    Also, to those complaining that my personal thoughts on the subject were a "bad analogy," well, that's how you know they're genuine. I didn't workshop it. It's not an official press release on the topic. It's me posting the thoughts I had in my head on this subject. They're the questions I have about it personally. Truth be told, I don't know if it's a good idea or not. Luckily for me, nobody involved in that decision is ever going to ask me. =)

    Sometimes, I just get to share my thoughts on a topic, too. They don't have to be perfect, they just have to be mine. "

    ************************************************************************************************


    This thread was then linked to a greater "Escapist" Katamari Damashii Collection Thread

    https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/287201/escapist-article-and-related-info-merge-thread-katamari-damashii

    (which is at 47 pages and growing)



    Have fun





  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    edited October 2015
    Brenics said:
    kishe said:
    Derek Smart is an awful person who makes awful games. That's all anyone needs to know about him.

    But this isn't about him, yet people want to make it that way and keep people from talking about RSI/CR.
    This thread is about him and his demands. Read the title

    "Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    Ahh, The Smarty is feeling melodramatic in his Twitter feed today:

    "These assholes decided to pick a fight with the one person who isn't afraid of anything or anyone. All they can do now is have me killed."


    Have fun

  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Erillion said:
    Ahh, The Smarty is feeling melodramatic in his Twitter feed today:

    "These assholes decided to pick a fight with the one person who isn't afraid of anything or anyone. All they can do now is have me killed."


    Have fun


    Lol, that is kinda funny. First of all, I'm not sure whether a lack of fear is a positive thing or not. For someone who is as narcissistic as DS, I think it could be a lack of fear could simply be an abundance of ignorance. 

    Secondly, I'm not sure why him not being afraid of anything or anyone leads him to believe that "their" last resort is to kill him. A court doesn't care if you fear someone or not. Neither does Bubba, your new cell mate. You may not fear anything now, but just wait until Bubba unzips. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • TatsuyaHirokiTatsuyaHiroki Member UncommonPosts: 108
    Erillion said:
    Ahh, The Smarty is feeling melodramatic in his Twitter feed today:

    "These assholes decided to pick a fight with the one person who isn't afraid of anything or anyone. All they can do now is have me killed."


    Have fun

    somebody really needs to close his Twitter account down because Derek Smartass still ramping high on his ego-train.

    image

  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    jcrg99 said:
    Derek Smart: Rear Admiral, indeed. 
    -Chuckles
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,098
    edited October 2015
    This guy is seriously starting to become scary and showing some serious mental illness! Tjeez.


    His latest game "Line of Defense" is in complete shambles still a year after release. Still in "Early Access" state, so he doesn't have to give refunds to all the angry people that paid for it.

    All he is doing is being completely obsessed in taking Chris Roberts down. At any cost! with complete neglect / disregard of his own game and customers!

    Someone ( a Court ) really needs to put this individual away in a dark hole somewhere.
  • ThourneThourne Member RarePosts: 757
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
  • ThourneThourne Member RarePosts: 757
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
  • ShaighShaigh Member EpicPosts: 2,150
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    The part on what they would show at citizencon was new.
    Iselin: And the next person who says "but it's a business, they need to make money" can just go fuck yourself.
  • user547user547 Member UncommonPosts: 150
    Still waiting on Battlecruiser 6000AD.  As a backer of Derek Smart, I feel shortchanged and demand an investigation.  lol
  • BrenicsBrenics Member RarePosts: 1,939
    I found the blog well written and to the point. Citizencon should be interesting to watch Saturday. Unlike CR it was put together very professional. I know I will be attacked for that one.  =)
    I'm not perfect but I'm always myself!

    Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event


    4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.

    http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/

    Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!

  • JacxolopeJacxolope Member UncommonPosts: 1,140
    edited October 2015
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
  • WarleyWarley Member UncommonPosts: 508
    edited October 2015
    Jacxolope said:
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
    Derek Smart, with his sidekick Manzes blowing the horn, rushes in to battle with another fluff filled piece with 'zero evidence' supporting accusations.

    The real information drops soon. Keep gloating. :)
  • JacxolopeJacxolope Member UncommonPosts: 1,140
    edited October 2015
    Warley said:
    Jacxolope said:
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
    Derek Smart, with his sidekick Manzes blowing the horn, rushes in to battle with another fluff filled piece with 'zero evidence' supporting accusations.

    The real information drops soon. Keep gloating. :)
    See this is how utterly ignorant cig supporters are.

    Already said, people here know who I am- And that isnt me. I have zero financial interest in this and am all about ethics in journalism and ethics in crowdfunding.

    Ive went after other game (including GM) nd am currently working on exposing more than just SC- SC is just deserving of all my attention right now.

    EDIT- I'm not gloating either. All this shit makes me sick to my stomach.
  • JacxolopeJacxolope Member UncommonPosts: 1,140
    edited October 2015
    Jacxolope said:
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
    I don't know, maybe they felt they had better things to do with their time?   See, I don't know what they were thinking because I don't live inside their heads and neither does Derek Smart.
    If they have "better things to do with their time" they sure seem to have the time to waste cranking out threat letters.

    That doesnt add up man.

    EDIT- he also just accused CRs partner , a licensed attorney, of double dipping- they going to just "let this go"? Or is it true?
  • WarleyWarley Member UncommonPosts: 508
    Jacxolope said:
    Warley said:
    Jacxolope said:
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
    Derek Smart, with his sidekick Manzes blowing the horn, rushes in to battle with another fluff filled piece with 'zero evidence' supporting accusations.

    The real information drops soon. Keep gloating. :)
    See this is how utterly ignorant cig supporters are.

    Already said, people here know who I am- And that isnt me. I have zero financial interest in this and am all about ethics in journalism and ethics in crowdfunding.

    Ive went after other game (including GM) nd am currently working on exposing more than just SC- SC is just deserving of all my attention right now.
    The CIG hate train is crashing soon, just an FYI. Enjoy the rush while it lasts. 
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    Jacxolope said:


    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.



    Between 40 and 500... 

    But to be fair... We have nothing but rumors and guesswork on said machine (but to be fair.... office class coffeemakers are not cheap, and good ´joe as i understand it.. or rather the lack of said liquid tar is a dealbreaker... Riots have been started over less. =P 


    This have been a good conversation

  • WarleyWarley Member UncommonPosts: 508
    edited October 2015

    Jacxolope said:
    Jacxolope said:
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
    I don't know, maybe they felt they had better things to do with their time?   See, I don't know what they were thinking because I don't live inside their heads and neither does Derek Smart.
    If they have "better things to do with their time" they sure seem to have the time to waste cranking out threat letters.

    That doesnt add up man.

    EDIT- he also just accused CRs partner , a licensed attorney, of double dipping- they going to just "let this go"? Or is it true?
    Kind of like how Derek Smart is a lead developer on a 'MMO' (and I use that word loosely here), but spends all his Mon/Tue writing blog posts and tweeting? Meanwhile, the person sending the letters from CIG is a lawyer that handles the legal side of things (and the other letter from CR was a request from the Escapist before publishing a hit piece with little notification -- excuse of not publishing CR's side was it was in the spam folder)?

    Do you even listen to yourself?
  • JacxolopeJacxolope Member UncommonPosts: 1,140
    Warley said:
    Jacxolope said:
    Warley said:
    Jacxolope said:
    Thourne said:
    Thourne said:
    Did anyone pull anything remotely coherent out of this blog post of his?
    I read it once and simply got nothing out of it but ranting and self promotion.
    You've already managed to make it through the whole thing?  I applaud your mental fortitude.  You're a better man than I!
    Sometimes you just take a deep breath  and charge through praying you make it to the other side.
    I made it halfway through on this last attempt ... but I don't know if I can finish it.  I mean, the psychosis is unbelievable.  He'd have to live inside these other people's minds to know some of what he's claiming.  It's just too outrageous to take seriously.
    The CIG should sue for Libel and put a stop to it.

    they gave him a C&D which he laughed at.

    Why does CIG constantly threaten the 1st amendment but NEVER take action when laughed at?

    He said they bought a $20,000 fucking cappuccino machine with backer money. easy to shut his ass down if it isnt true. If it is...How many ships were sold (pictures of ships that dont exist) from middle class gamers to buy a $20K fucking coffee maker? Is this okay? If not- CIG needs to clarify by doing more than threaten.

    My car doesnt cost 20K and im not broke (just not foolish with money I guess- because its MY money I earned and wasnt handed to me with no accountability)
    Derek Smart, with his sidekick Manzes blowing the horn, rushes in to battle with another fluff filled piece with 'zero evidence' supporting accusations.

    The real information drops soon. Keep gloating. :)
    See this is how utterly ignorant cig supporters are.

    Already said, people here know who I am- And that isnt me. I have zero financial interest in this and am all about ethics in journalism and ethics in crowdfunding.

    Ive went after other game (including GM) nd am currently working on exposing more than just SC- SC is just deserving of all my attention right now.
    The CIG hate train is crashing soon, just an FYI. Enjoy the rush while it lasts. 
    I hope you're right, dude- I really do...

    It  means out community hasnt thrown 100 Million into a black hole.

    Unfortunately, I think you're very- very wrong...
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