One thing MMOs have clearly taught us: "Every damn thing is a competition, and your game is just naturally better (YOU are inherently better) than the players of everything else."
Can anyone tell me why GW2 is so high up?... i went back several months after the launch and went on one of the low lvl alts. Was hardly anyone around doing the zone events and was really tedious doing them solo. Was fun at launch when it was populated any lots of people around but not solo.
So it must be the pvp that makes this so high up?... but then again ESO pvp much the same but not even on the list *confused* or did the world get populated again so most not doing events solo?
GW2 is so high just because deserved it.
Currently this is top1 game. For me at least.
The only game that outperform WoW for me (I played in wow 7 years ,and 3 years in GW2)
Also look to stats on this web site. GW2 always has nr1 or nr2 place.
My top-5 list:
1. WOW
2. GW2
3. TESO
4. FFIVX
5. Aion
...
Can anyone tell me why GW2 is so high up?... i went back several months after the launch and went on one of the low lvl alts. Was hardly anyone around doing the zone events and was really tedious doing them solo. Was fun at launch when it was populated any lots of people around but not solo.
So it must be the pvp that makes this so high up?... but then again ESO pvp much the same but not even on the list *confused* or did the world get populated again so most not doing events solo?
GW2 is so high just because deserved it.
Currently this is top1 game. For me at least.
The only game that outperform WoW for me (I played in wow 7 years ,and 3 years in GW2)
Also look to stats on this web site. GW2 always has nr1 or nr2 place.
My top-5 list:
1. WOW
2. GW2
3. TESO
4. FFIVX
5. Aion
...
@StarS0ft I've played GW2 since launch and its a nice game.. but has some aspects that are ruining it. It's a nice PvE game.. but really fails in WvW.. it should be named Zerg vs Zerg.. all you do in WvW is run with a group of people to a spot, conquer it, leave it alone, conquer another point, lose the previous spot, etc, etc.. they should fix it and make more relevant to defend your own keeps.
Wow deserves it but only when reflecting on it's previous editions and earlier expansions most likely pre-cataclysm.
SWG at #3 is a very bad choice. EQ should be far ahead of it. SWG's legacy is hinged entirely upon it's sandbox features which influence games in that area even today. EQ influenced the genre far more. Wow would likely not exist without it and certainly did not take much influence from SWG.
I agree with Swtor not being included within the top 10. It's terrible history through development is what broke Bioware. This was the soul reason why EQ bought them out. They were broke and managed by idiots which EA fired the moment they purchased them. It is the one area I give EA credit for ... fiscal management.
Swtor only became profitable once it sold out to f2p and lottery boxes ... not because of the actual game play.
Man I hate people that think they are right, when they aren't. Nothing wrong with the gameplay of SWTOR, sorry buddy you live in fantasy land. I think SWTOR did not get a fair ranking, but as mentioned previously, this list has little to do with fact, and is just a popularity contest in the end. But yes, please keep spouting crap like this all over the internet. What a joke.
It's interesting to see that FFXIV made the top ten and SWTOR did not. I'd be interested to hear why it didn't make the top ten. Not a fanboy really, just curious.
An opinion: SWTOR was - probably - at the cutting edge of "single player" m "m" os. More single player with group options rather than multiplayer that you could solo. A direction other games (even WoW) have gone to varying extents. Consequently I think it will always fall short in an mmo list.
Wrong. Again, another person who doesn't know what they are talking about. The only thing that was a single player experience in SWTOR was the class missions. If you did nothing but the class missions, like the people leveling on 12XP, then it is understandable why you would have this perception. If you actually played this game since BETA, where you actually had to do the FP's, the planetary missions and the side missions, you would know that this games has some of the best cooperative gameplay of any MMO currently on the market that I have played. I ripped apart ESO when it released because it failed in the group play category from my perspective. I became less harsh on this however because I was comparing it to the steller system of SWTOR. Myabe actually play with a friend on the normal leveling experience and you will see what I mean.
@polacalvito actually they are making a new WvW map that if you zerg, you're most likely going to lose. It's bigger so you have to split up zergs to conquer more than 1-2 spots.
Can anyone tell me why GW2 is so high up?... i went back several months after the launch and went on one of the low lvl alts. Was hardly anyone around doing the zone events and was really tedious doing them solo. Was fun at launch when it was populated any lots of people around but not solo.
So it must be the pvp that makes this so high up?... but then again ESO pvp much the same but not even on the list *confused* or did the world get populated again so most not doing events solo?
GW2 is so high just because deserved it.
Currently this is top1 game. For me at least.
The only game that outperform WoW for me (I played in wow 7 years ,and 3 years in GW2)
Also look to stats on this web site. GW2 always has nr1 or nr2 place.
My top-5 list:
1. WOW
2. GW2
3. TESO
4. FFIVX
5. Aion
...
@StarS0ft I've played GW2 since launch and its a nice game.. but has some aspects that are ruining it. It's a nice PvE game.. but really fails in WvW.. it should be named Zerg vs Zerg.. all you do in WvW is run with a group of people to a spot, conquer it, leave it alone, conquer another point, lose the previous spot, etc, etc.. they should fix it and make more relevant to defend your own keeps.
the game is no just WWW, btw www fixed in HoT already
LOL they post the list over on ESO Reddit and all run over here to say ESO should be on list. Get over it guys the game has way to many issues and just hasn't been around long enough. Maybe it will make the next list 2 or 3 years from now when the game actually gets big issues fixed. Of course they may have to find a few more devs that understand Elder Scrolls.
I'm a big fan of PoE but for it to be on an MMO list is kind of odd. Its about on par with trying to put League of Legends on this list.
As for ESO not being on the list at all....I actually laughed out loud at this. It should have at least placed above Rift (And I don't play either).
LOL they post the list over on ESO Reddit and all run over here to say ESO should be on list. Get over it guys the game has way to many issues and just hasn't been around long enough. Maybe it will make the next list 2 or 3 years from now when the game actually gets big issues fixed. Of course they may have to find a few more devs that understand Elder Scrolls.
ESO is a beautiful game ... does it deserve to be on this list? ... Guildwars 2 made the #2 spot ... it's all so subjective ... but I think ESO is more entertaining on the PvE side than Guildwars 2.
Beautiful, yes with SweetFX even better looking. But as an MMO it has lost big time, as a single player game yep that is what they made. Does it really hold to Elder Scrolls Lore, maybe a little. Still do not believe it deserves to be on list. But I guess we all have our own opinions and the people at MMORPG made a great list I agree with.
I really wish they would or could bring back the Original SWG, the game rocked.
At first I wanted to object to giving the number 2 spot to gw2 but then I thought about it and had to agree.
Gw2 was the most hyped game of all time. These forums were filled with relentless praise for it. Gw2 was not only going to kill WoW it was going to kill the subscription model itself. People were starting threads to see how many thousands of posts they count to before gw2 launched.
Unfortunately unrealistic hype for not yet released games is the most defining feature of the last 10 years of MMORPGs therefore gw2 is the most defining game of the last 10 years.
We just don't know the credentials of the people voting on this...For all we know, many of them may have very well started with WoW as their first MMO....It deserves #1 because of its impact on the West and bringing so many new people into the genre, but clearly games like GW2 do not belong in top 5.
Sooooo...other than potential, why is SWG on this list? With all due respect, when you poled your writers, they did actually play the games they voted on, right? Even your write-up struggles to say anything positive about SWG.
"Star Wars Galaxies will forever be remembered for its potential over what it actually achieved." I hate when people say that. It's a moot point and true of every single game ever created. Please take off the rose coloured glasses. SWG was terrible from the start and earned its fate - and yes, I was there.
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Of the 35 they listed, this is how I would have listed them:
However, I am disappointed that Elder Scrolls Online did not make the list. ESO is one of the better MMOs out there and as such it was a mistake leaving it off. I would have placed ESO 4th.
I would like to know why ESO is not on the list.
Frankly, I'm shocked too. ESO was up there for me, but we polled around 40 writers and staffers, and not enough voted for ESO. Here's hoping it makes it in when we do this again in a couple years.
You mean they dont pay you comercials? Wildstar, Rift, Planetside 2... and you skip ESO. This site is slowly loosing its appeal
WOW I really can't believe you people think ESOTU should be on this list. The game should be on a list as most beautiful broken bug infested game. I do play it but 20 more days and will never sub or give it another dime till they fix all the bugs. Least they should do instead of releasing more areas that only add more bugs to the game.
Sooooo...other than potential, why is SWG on this list? With all due respect, when you poled your writers, they did actually play the games they voted on, right? Even your write-up struggles to say anything positive about SWG.
"Star Wars Galaxies will forever be remembered for its potential over what it actually achieved." I hate when people say that. It's a moot point and true of every single game ever created. Please take off the rose coloured glasses. SWG was terrible from the start and earned its fate - and yes, I was there.
Nostalgia? People always look back on the past far more fondly than it actually was. I'm guilty of it as well, I'll always remember how much I enjoyed swg and daoc. However when I really think back to it, I had as many complaints then as I do with the current crop of Mmos.
WOW no 1 gimme a break its 10 years incredibly easy childish poor graphic and very generic. Kill this piece of garbage off and a subscription for the worst mmo ever made.
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One thing MMOs have clearly taught us:
"Every damn thing is a competition, and your game is just naturally better (YOU are inherently better) than the players of everything else."
The fact that 90% of the complains are directed towards GW2 while 3 years ago it would be directed to WoW tells me GW2 is indeed a big game.
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It's a nice PvE game.. but really fails in WvW.. it should be named Zerg vs Zerg.. all you do in WvW is run with a group of people to a spot, conquer it, leave it alone, conquer another point, lose the previous spot, etc, etc.. they should fix it and make more relevant to defend your own keeps.
i love sPVP it is so nice
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I really wish they would or could bring back the Original SWG, the game rocked.
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Gw2 was the most hyped game of all time. These forums were filled with relentless praise for it. Gw2 was not only going to kill WoW it was going to kill the subscription model itself. People were starting threads to see how many thousands of posts they count to before gw2 launched.
Unfortunately unrealistic hype for not yet released games is the most defining feature of the last 10 years of MMORPGs therefore gw2 is the most defining game of the last 10 years.
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Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!