Good list, personally I think Mabinogi and Vindictus deserve to make the list.
There are some I think that should be taken off because they were massive flops. Only reason they are well known is because of how badly they fail like Vanguard.
Lol at the GW2 hate, I'd say #2 is about right. It's not perfect, no game is, but it's done a lot of things right that should be pushing the genre. I guess a lot of you are too blinded by nostalgia and stuck in the old ways to realise what makes it the better MMO overall.
ESO is a joke imo, strayed too far from what made TES enjoyable (but they had no problems incorporating the ruins/delve spam!), and stuck too close to outdated MMO conventions to keep me interested.
Opinions are not to be debated as they are something personal, but as someone stated previously, I do think that games like ESO should have made it in the list. The fact that it isn't makes me question the notion of reality of the voters... I mean, no one is debating the sucess of GW2 or WoW but ESO was a bigger phenomenon than some of the lower ranked games for sure...
ESO on list.....excuse me...hahahahahahahahahaha...sorry that game (which I pay + for and still play it) has way too many bugs. The game is a disaster, heck Wildstar has less bugs and that is saying a lot. They can't even make a good Launcher for it. Also I played most of day today other than in city which maybe I seen 10 people outside of city I have run across no one. The game is dying and the devs don't care.
Heck they won't even answer any questions the players ask. Only list that game deserves to be on is the worse game list and it would be close to #1 if not #1.
Good launcher? You load the launcher, it updates and you hit play. What are you wanting from a launcher?
Go on forums and do searches for launcher, majority of people login to game from the eso.com file except for Mondays when we get patches. I'm shocked you do not know this.
This list is totally bullshit. ESO is the third one in the Top Voted Game and it is better than a dozen games on this list. TERA, Darkfall, Lineage, PoE, Warhammer, Wildstar, Age of Conan are on the list, yet ESO does not deserve a place? I love some of these games, including Age of Conan being my all time #1 but you have got to be kidding me if you did not pick ESO.
I played WoW for 10 years and even I can admit that it does NOT deserve to be #1! Top 5 maybe but not #1, games like EQ and UO paved the way for WoW THEY deserve that spot. Both are OLD and still running which says ALOT about them. Please stop putting WoW on a pedestal it no longer deserves.
Just for all the new people WOW brought into the MMORPG market gives them the right tyo be #1, UO or EQ never did that.
I agree with top 3. Good job MMORPG.com . In terms of influence WoW has done more for the genre that any other game, while SWG was the most ambitious MMORPG since the beginning.
I see comments saying that GW2 doesn't deserve that spot. What I don't see is good arguments against it.
GW2's combat bridges tab-targetting traditional combat and action combat in a way that no matter other game has. It has the most encompassing character customization system I have ever seen. By far the best implementation of dyes and transmorg in a MMO, ever.
The game boosts the best community I have seen in a game (though that might change with F2P players) since SWG. The game is has the best teamwork friendly setup in a game. Where most other MMORPGs treat other players as an annoyance, GW2 facilities co-op play in a meaningful way they don't.
It has the most intense PvP outside of MOBAs (and GW1). WvW is the best RvR since DAOC, even though it still has problems I hope they will fix.
GW2 has some of the best art I've ever seen in a game period. And some of Jeremy Soules finest music to date. It's also one of the most improved-MMOs I have seen to date. Wallet, megaserver, wardrobe, fractals (as opposed to those disappointing dungeons at launch), marionette, EOTM, observer, magic find overhaul, luck, Big feature sets that improved a game significantly, for free.
The game has little downtime or week maintenance. The game has the most solo-friendly setup thanks to the dynamic events, the game is the alt-friendly game thanks to almost everything being shared across the account. I've played over 2000 hours, and not since SWG has a game hooked me so much.
I love that the grindy bits are optional. I love there is no gear or levelling creep. even with raids coming there is no more powerful gear coming. I dont have as much time to play as I used to so its a dealbreaker not having to grind. some of my friends grinds for legendary weapons and all that stuff, but that is optional and only more powerful cosmetically.
GW2 is a freaking amazing game, and one of the few that are different. its the only game were you can go out and explore, ignoring the "hearts" and "personal story. Its a game where I've levelled to max level from lvl 1 just crafting, or by doing wvw exclusively. Most of all I am glad that ArenaNet listens and actually treat their customers with respect and open dialogue, just as they did during GW1.
The fact that GW2 has its haters is no surprising. many people hated on GW1 back when it came out. I clearly remember. Some people will always hate what is different, or tries to do something different. Particularly because people hate what they don't understand, as indicated by so many of the baseless opinions about GW2 here. It's a stellar game when judged on its own merits. But play it like WoW or a regular MMO and you're going to have a bad time. the game is made to be explored in the blind.
I see so many thinking EQ should be #2 or heck even #1, well I have to say what bothers me is EQ beats Asherons Call, they both came out around the same time and I always thought AC was a better game.
A lot of people defending GW2 but whats so special about it? What does it offer? What did it bring to the table that no other MMO has before? I just don't get it.
This is an honest question, I got bored with it quick, it is simply an unappealing game.
Aside from the "first mmos" what does any mmo ever bring to the table that's never been done before? The entire genre is built on iteration. Games building on ideas from other games. WAR had the public quest system, and it was pretty ok. GW2's event system is an iteration on the public quest system. The lower level events aren't very good examples of how well some of the elder events truly are. The Marionette event was fantastic while it was in game, and I am glad I was able to experience it.
The thing is, we're all going to like different things. GW2 was unappealing to you, but there are numerous others who enjoy it. My appeal towards GW2 can't really be explained to someone who doesn't enjoy it, simply because our tastes differ.
However, if you read the reasoning given why GW2 was chosen to be second on this list, it does make sense from an objective point of view. For the better part of a decade every mmo launched was more or less an iteration on WoW. Many mmos changed during development to become more like WoW and look how well that paid off. ANet went in a very different direction without being completely unrecognizable. In a world of similar mmos, GW2 came out as a very different animal. ANet did something right as GW2 became the fastest selling mmo and continues to have their legion of fans support the game. At the time of this posting there is roughly 9 days until the xpack launches and the game is extremely busy with people prepping for the launch.
I just don't get GW2. It does absolutely nothing I look for in an mmorpg. I guess that means the genre is diverse? LoL
I am surprised eso got snubbed. Atitd beat it out Hehe. That makes me smile.
Now it's time to poll the forum members on their top 35.
That should be fun!
ESO is far away from the standard Elder Scrolls we all knew and loved. The world just feels two dimensional. Broken trading system, adding classes (albeit a very few amount) when it should have been skill based.I played it first at launch and then sometime later after changes had been made. I played it but not because it was an Elder Scrolls game. Just as an MMO. Yet all the things it did not do right for an mmo coupled with all the things it did not do right for an Elder Scrolls game just made me stop playing. Realy it feels like half a game to me. I know it has it's fans and I am not going to trash the game. Just did nothing at all for me. Been playing MMOs for a long long time and this game did not scratch any itch I had for a quality mmorpg.
Well, no MMO is perfect or enjoyed by 100% of the community. That doesn't explain why ESO didn't even make the list at all. That right there doesn't make any sense at all. If you can explain why each and every MMO on that list is better than ESO, by all means, go for it. I'd find it hard pressed to convince anyone of 80% of those MMO's as being better than ESO.
In many people's minds, ESO was supposed to be "Skyrim Online" and not just another MMO.
Zenimax had an opportunity to deliver something very different and grand, yet took the safe, corporate road instead which is likely why the staff gave it no recognition.
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GW2 is a terrible...terrible...absolutely terrible game. It is pretty much a single player game, as the PvE grouping was the worst, zergtastic cluster &#^$ of a mess I have ever seen in any video game, ever... and it is a boring as all hell single player game, at that. In no weirdly altered version of reality is GW2 even one of the 20 best MMORPG's of all time... Maybe it is somewhere between 21-35, simply because there just aren't many.
I can very easily explain why TESO didn't make the list at all: It only recently launched into a proper state about 6 months ago. That was the B2P relaunch just prior to the console launch. The whole year prior was nothing more than a PAID BETA for PC players to get all the design kinks out of the works for the console players. And design kinks it had in spades.
And during the official Beta/development cycle of TESO, the only just recent release of the Imperial City was a core aspect of their open world PvP area. They talked about that feature a whole bunch, but it only makes it into the game over a year and a half after the initial launch? Think about the game's last 1.5 years before saying "Why isn't TESO on that list?!" and you'll realize the answer in your own head.
As for Guild Wars 2 getting #2: congratulations. It is well deserved considering that the game is just about to release its first expansion. The game challenged many tropes of the genre and kept things familiar yet different. Even the expansion is changing things by not expanding character levels, not adding new gear tier; things that are normally "standard" in other games' expansions. The Living Story was successful batch releases of content and story, does not matter what hecklers say otherwise. The expansion will be followed up by a Season 3 of the Living Story as well as many more updates and changes to the game to come.
I can very easily explain why TESO didn't make the list at all: It only recently launched into a proper state about 6 months ago. That was the B2P relaunch just prior to the console launch. The whole year prior was nothing more than a PAID BETA for PC players to get all the design kinks out of the works for the console players. And design kinks it had in spades.
How can you bash ESO for this when Wildstar made it so far up the list and has been an even bigger disgrace to the genre?
Wildstar is truly an MMO with a foot in the grave, if F2P doesn't work out it most assuredly is getting shut down in under a year.
How can you say that and not say the same about ESOTU?
I can very easily explain why TESO didn't make the list at all: It only recently launched into a proper state about 6 months ago. That was the B2P relaunch just prior to the console launch. The whole year prior was nothing more than a PAID BETA for PC players to get all the design kinks out of the works for the console players. And design kinks it had in spades.
And during the official Beta/development cycle of TESO, the only just recent release of the Imperial City was a core aspect of their open world PvP area. They talked about that feature a whole bunch, but it only makes it into the game over a year and a half after the initial launch? Think about the game's last 1.5 years before saying "Why isn't TESO on that list?!" and you'll realize the answer in your own head.
As for Guild Wars 2 getting #2: congratulations. It is well deserved considering that the game is just about to release its first expansion. The game challenged many tropes of the genre and kept things familiar yet different. Even the expansion is changing things by not expanding character levels, not adding new gear tier; things that are normally "standard" in other games' expansions. The Living Story was successful batch releases of content and story, does not matter what hecklers say otherwise. The expansion will be followed up by a Season 3 of the Living Story as well as many more updates and changes to the game to come.
Oh please don't bother. ESO even in it's worst state before Tamriel Unlimited, still performed way better than 80% of the MMOs on this list. As for the "lack" of content, ESO launched with a content worth of WoW Vanilla + 3 expansions, not to mention how much more high quality that content was/is.
I know I was joking around that ESO had a paid Beta for us PC players too, but overall I still couldn't find a better MMO to play, and I certainly can't find anything remotely as good after the Tamriel Unlimited update. Actually ESO is such a great game, that it doesn't surprise me how many players still Subscribe to it.
The fact is that ESO has one of the best PvP designs, character customization, world design, graphics, gameplay, now also progression with the Champion System, immersion, dungeons, crafting system and so on. It probably even has the best story and quests in this genre which generally produces garbage quality story and the best justice system this genre has ever seen.
There is just no reason why ESO shouldn't be in the TOP 10. If I had to pick the best MMORPG for 2015, ESO should be winning it 2nd time straight again. Not sure I would have picked it as best MMORPG in 2014, but it deserved to be in the top 3, and I'm glad it managed to end winning it all in the end.
Either way it doesn't matter, as the success of ESO speaks for itself.
all this list does is show things in perspective that the writers and staff voting for this garbage is completely out of touch with mmorpgs in general. There is so much wrong and absolute failures of games on this list and complete successes missing. Not saying what you did is bad here but next time poll the ones who matter the gamers here on this site and see what they say instead. It would give a much better perspective from a players point of view than who greased whos pocket with advertising dollars from staff.
I agree with top 3. Good job MMORPG.com . In terms of influence WoW has done more for the genre that any other game, while SWG was the most ambitious MMORPG since the beginning.
I see comments saying that GW2 doesn't deserve that spot. What I don't see is good arguments against it.
If you need some arguments as to why GW2 isn't a great game, try these on for size...
Non Trinity Combat - Most likely designed with the idea that combat in GW2 would be more action oriented. I personally think it has more flaws than benefits. It would have been better to do what TERA did with combat and they still managed to keep the Trinity system.
WvWvW - So ANet's take on DAoC's tri realm combat was probably better than Mythic Entertainments successor WarHammer Online, I personally think ESO's Cyrodill did a much better job of capturing the true elements found in DAoC's RvR. GW2 maps were too small and you ended up with the same problem if not a worse case scenario than WAR with rotating keeps. On top of that, it was a complete chaotic zergfest.
When GW2 launched, it boasted Dynamic content like it was some randomly generated, once in a lifetime event. Oh hell no. It wasn't Dynamic at all in any sense of the word. Every event in GW2 was repeatable ad nauseam.
Don't even get me started on the friggin jumping puzzles. They even went as far as to incorporate this crap in PvP zones. Yes, that's what every MMO needs, lol.
Forced levels in every zone is a great way to increase veteran players to visit old zones to help out newbies. However, why not use a mentoring system instead? No one wants to fight through EVERY zone when trying to complete a map.
So, theres 5 things that I didn't care for at all about GW2. The worst of those 5 being the lack of a trinity system and the fact their so called Dynamic content was a complete farce during the game's initial promotion prior to launch.
Pretty sure you mean this:
"If you need some arguments as to why GW2 isn't my type of game, try these on for size"
I personally like the Non-Trinity Combat.
I personally like WvWvW
Those "repeatable ad nauseam" dynamic events are worse than other MMO's "Kill 230589234 goblins" quests? Really? REALLY?
Most of your points are personal opinion, and shared by a small percent of people who play, have played, or have not played GW2.
I can very easily explain why TESO didn't make the list at all: It only recently launched into a proper state about 6 months ago. That was the B2P relaunch just prior to the console launch. The whole year prior was nothing more than a PAID BETA for PC players to get all the design kinks out of the works for the console players. And design kinks it had in spades.
And during the official Beta/development cycle of TESO, the only just recent release of the Imperial City was a core aspect of their open world PvP area. They talked about that feature a whole bunch, but it only makes it into the game over a year and a half after the initial launch? Think about the game's last 1.5 years before saying "Why isn't TESO on that list?!" and you'll realize the answer in your own head.
As for Guild Wars 2 getting #2: congratulations. It is well deserved considering that the game is just about to release its first expansion. The game challenged many tropes of the genre and kept things familiar yet different. Even the expansion is changing things by not expanding character levels, not adding new gear tier; things that are normally "standard" in other games' expansions. The Living Story was successful batch releases of content and story, does not matter what hecklers say otherwise. The expansion will be followed up by a Season 3 of the Living Story as well as many more updates and changes to the game to come.
Oh please don't bother. ESO even in it's worst state before Tamriel Unlimited, still performed way better than 80% of the MMOs on this list. As for the "lack" of content, ESO launched with a content worth of WoW Vanilla + 3 expansions, not to mention how much more high quality that content was/is.
I know I was joking around that ESO had a paid Beta for us PC players too, but overall I still couldn't find a better MMO to play, and I certainly can't find anything remotely as good after the Tamriel Unlimited update. Actually ESO is such a great game, that it doesn't surprise me how many players still Subscribe to it.
The fact is that ESO has one of the best PvP designs, character customization, world design, graphics, gameplay, now also progression with the Champion System, immersion, dungeons, crafting system and so on. It probably even has the best story and quests in this genre which generally produces garbage quality story and the best justice system this genre has ever seen.
There is just no reason why ESO shouldn't be in the TOP 10. If I had to pick the best MMORPG for 2015, ESO should be winning it 2nd time straight again. Not sure I would have picked it as best MMORPG in 2014, but it deserved to be in the top 3, and I'm glad it managed to end winning it all in the end.
Either way it doesn't matter, as the success of ESO speaks for itself.
What speaks loud is people are leaving the game more everyday. On all three systems. ESO did not and does not deserve to be on this list. maybe next year if the developers ever get off their butts and actually fix a lot of the bugs and issues. That is if it makes it another year! I do hope they do and it does.
WoW being #1 is no surprise, infact, as it really has come from the largest played game in the world for a LONG time in gaming terms, would be a shock if it didnt.
However, GuildWars2 being so high up is a bit of a surprise, sure it had its burst and stays afloat pretty well now, but doubtful to be top 5, hell, even top 10 is pushing it in my eyes.
Find it amusing that 2/5 of those top games are canceled now. City of Heros/Villians was amazing, i absolutly loved it. SWG is no surprise eaither, but an absolute heartbreak that i missed out on it, when i was younger i got to play for 2 weeks, then when i got money and all the good stuff with age, i find its been canceled.
In the end, this list, with a few SMALL blemishes, is really well thought out! Kudos!
Most of the rest of the list can be argued ad nauseam, but in no parallel universe or reality is GW2 better or more influential than EQ. I am glad to see FFXI in the top 10 though. For me it's even higher, but I'm well aware that most people were not fond of it.
Definitely think GW2 deserves its spot. There are so many little things that GW2 does right. You may not like the game, but it's one of the best MMOs ever made.
Of the 35 they listed, this is how I would have listed them:
1-World of Warcraft
2-Star Wars Galaxies
3-City of Heroes
4-EverQuest
5-Guild Wars 2
6-EVE Online
7-Ultima Online
8-Star Wars: The Old Republic
9-The Secret World
10-Lord of the Rings Online
11-Age of Conan
12-Rift
13-Anarchy Online
14-Runescape
15-Everquest 2
16-Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
17-Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
18-TERA
19-Planetside 2
20-Final Fantasy XIV
21-Dark Age of Camelot
22-Shadowbane
23-Lineage 2
24-Darkfall
25-Final Fantasy XI
26-Asheron’s Call
27-Meridian 59
28-Wizard101
29-Fallen Earth
30-Lineage
31-Planetside
32-Path of Exile
33-WildStar
34-Ragnarok Online
35-A Tale in the Desert
However, I am disappointed that Elder Scrolls Online did not make the list. ESO is one of the better MMOs out there and as such it was a mistake leaving it off. I would have placed ESO 4th.
I would like to know why ESO is not on the list.
Frankly, I'm shocked too. ESO was up there for me, but we polled around 40 writers and staffers, and not enough voted for ESO. Here's hoping it makes it in when we do this again in a couple years.
Might be interesting to do a list from the general public and see how the list changes. Trouble is people tend to either remember their first game they ever played or the games more up to date.
My thoughts on Everquest are that while I enjoyed the game, and it might have been the best game out there when it was new, a lot of other games have since improved on the formula. If we were rating the most influential games, certainly EQ belongs in the top 5.
Think of it this way -- which game would you rather be playing right now -- City of Heroes or Everquest? A few people might say EQ, but City of Heroes became a far better game. Fallen Earth, ESO and Rift are games that more people would rather be playing right now, and they didn't even make your top 5.
We owe a lot to Everquest. But there are just so many things that were improved upon by other games that you can hardly consider it among the best of the best by today's standards. Influential and important? Certainly. Best? Not for a very long time.
WoW is a cheap first place. Numbers do not make a great MMO. They stole most of their ideas from other MMOs and when a new MMO would come out with something new and exciting, they would poach it and add it to their game before the new game could release. I did lose 6 years of game time to WoW but its far from the top and best MMO out there. But from a business stand point I get why someone would say so. Over all thats my only gripe with this list.
But that is exactly one of the reasons why WoW was so amazing. Yes, maybe it's cheap, but it works, because by doing this it became the most feature complete MMO. Simple example was that when Warhammer came out, WoW released WOTLK expansion with Wintergrasp, a large scale outdoor PvP area. Now perhaps it was cheap of Blizzard to do this, but the game itself, which already was much better then Warhammer PVE wise, became a much better game, offering the people that didn't want to switch to inferior Warhammer the option of indulging in some structured world pvp.
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ESO is a joke imo, strayed too far from what made TES enjoyable (but they had no problems incorporating the ruins/delve spam!), and stuck too close to outdated MMO conventions to keep me interested.
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Just for all the new people WOW brought into the MMORPG market gives them the right tyo be #1, UO or EQ never did that.
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I see comments saying that GW2 doesn't deserve that spot. What I don't see is good arguments against it.
GW2's combat bridges tab-targetting traditional combat and action combat in a way that no matter other game has.
It has the most encompassing character customization system I have ever seen. By far the best implementation of dyes and transmorg in a MMO, ever.
The game boosts the best community I have seen in a game (though that might change with F2P players) since SWG. The game is has the best teamwork friendly setup in a game. Where most other MMORPGs treat other players as an annoyance, GW2 facilities co-op play in a meaningful way they don't.
It has the most intense PvP outside of MOBAs (and GW1). WvW is the best RvR since DAOC, even though it still has problems I hope they will fix.
GW2 has some of the best art I've ever seen in a game period. And some of Jeremy Soules finest music to date. It's also one of the most improved-MMOs I have seen to date. Wallet, megaserver, wardrobe, fractals (as opposed to those disappointing dungeons at launch), marionette, EOTM, observer, magic find overhaul, luck, Big feature sets that improved a game significantly, for free.
The game has little downtime or week maintenance. The game has the most solo-friendly setup thanks to the dynamic events, the game is the alt-friendly game thanks to almost everything being shared across the account. I've played over 2000 hours, and not since SWG has a game hooked me so much.
I love that the grindy bits are optional. I love there is no gear or levelling creep. even with raids coming there is no more powerful gear coming. I dont have as much time to play as I used to so its a dealbreaker not having to grind.
some of my friends grinds for legendary weapons and all that stuff, but that is optional and only more powerful cosmetically.
GW2 is a freaking amazing game, and one of the few that are different. its the only game were you can go out and explore, ignoring the "hearts" and "personal story. Its a game where I've levelled to max level from lvl 1 just crafting, or by doing wvw exclusively. Most of all I am glad that ArenaNet listens and actually treat their customers with respect and open dialogue, just as they did during GW1.
The fact that GW2 has its haters is no surprising. many people hated on GW1 back when it came out. I clearly remember. Some people will always hate what is different, or tries to do something different. Particularly because people hate what they don't understand, as indicated by so many of the baseless opinions about GW2 here.
It's a stellar game when judged on its own merits. But play it like WoW or a regular MMO and you're going to have a bad time. the game is made to be explored in the blind.
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The thing is, we're all going to like different things. GW2 was unappealing to you, but there are numerous others who enjoy it. My appeal towards GW2 can't really be explained to someone who doesn't enjoy it, simply because our tastes differ.
However, if you read the reasoning given why GW2 was chosen to be second on this list, it does make sense from an objective point of view. For the better part of a decade every mmo launched was more or less an iteration on WoW. Many mmos changed during development to become more like WoW and look how well that paid off. ANet went in a very different direction without being completely unrecognizable. In a world of similar mmos, GW2 came out as a very different animal. ANet did something right as GW2 became the fastest selling mmo and continues to have their legion of fans support the game. At the time of this posting there is roughly 9 days until the xpack launches and the game is extremely busy with people prepping for the launch.
Zenimax had an opportunity to deliver something very different and grand, yet took the safe, corporate road instead which is likely why the staff gave it no recognition.
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In no weirdly altered version of reality is GW2 even one of the 20 best MMORPG's of all time... Maybe it is somewhere between 21-35, simply because there just aren't many.
And during the official Beta/development cycle of TESO, the only just recent release of the Imperial City was a core aspect of their open world PvP area. They talked about that feature a whole bunch, but it only makes it into the game over a year and a half after the initial launch? Think about the game's last 1.5 years before saying "Why isn't TESO on that list?!" and you'll realize the answer in your own head.
As for Guild Wars 2 getting #2: congratulations. It is well deserved considering that the game is just about to release its first expansion. The game challenged many tropes of the genre and kept things familiar yet different. Even the expansion is changing things by not expanding character levels, not adding new gear tier; things that are normally "standard" in other games' expansions. The Living Story was successful batch releases of content and story, does not matter what hecklers say otherwise. The expansion will be followed up by a Season 3 of the Living Story as well as many more updates and changes to the game to come.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
I know I was joking around that ESO had a paid Beta for us PC players too, but overall I still couldn't find a better MMO to play, and I certainly can't find anything remotely as good after the Tamriel Unlimited update. Actually ESO is such a great game, that it doesn't surprise me how many players still Subscribe to it.
The fact is that ESO has one of the best PvP designs, character customization, world design, graphics, gameplay, now also progression with the Champion System, immersion, dungeons, crafting system and so on. It probably even has the best story and quests in this genre which generally produces garbage quality story and the best justice system this genre has ever seen.
There is just no reason why ESO shouldn't be in the TOP 10. If I had to pick the best MMORPG for 2015, ESO should be winning it 2nd time straight again. Not sure I would have picked it as best MMORPG in 2014, but it deserved to be in the top 3, and I'm glad it managed to end winning it all in the end.
Either way it doesn't matter, as the success of ESO speaks for itself.
"If you need some arguments as to why GW2 isn't my type of game, try these on for size"
I personally like the Non-Trinity Combat.
I personally like WvWvW
Those "repeatable ad nauseam" dynamic events are worse than other MMO's "Kill 230589234 goblins" quests? Really? REALLY?
Most of your points are personal opinion, and shared by a small percent of people who play, have played, or have not played GW2.
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
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