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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Dragnelus said:
    Whats so special about this game? Seems a bit like that battlestar galatica serie? Its released in parts? Pay for a full game? But still need to pay for ships? Or can you also earn them ingame.  What means 3 Month Insurance on ships? Or is this a joke?

    If you really need to pay for something else then the game its a big NO! But maybe if you can also earn it ingame its worth a look.


    EVERYTHING can be bought in game with in game money after launch day.  That includes ships. No real world money needed.

    Yes, there is insurance , but it wont cost much in game money  (kinda like in EVE Online). If you lose your ship, the insurance company will replace the hull and basic modules.

    No monthly fees.

    Its a crowdfunding campaign, so you CAN pledge more money if you want. But you ONLY need a basic package (which currently costs 54 $ .... wait until X-mas, they may have again a special deal for 25 $ like last year). Basic package comes with a ship (Aurora or Mustang).

    They release a solo game (Squadron 42 ... like the old Wing Commander games). And a multiplayer Persistent Universe part.

    More details here:
    https://robertsspaceindustries.com/
    (if you read everything there on that website ... see you in 6 months ;-)


    Have fun

  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Brorim said:
    no thanks .. ED does it for me ..
    Play both ... like i do. Add EVE Online for good measure ,-)


    Have fun
  • BrorimBrorim Member UncommonPosts: 91
    Erillion said:
    Brorim said:
    no thanks .. ED does it for me ..
    Play both ... like i do. Add EVE Online for good measure ,-)


    Have fun
    Well the only thing they try to push on you there are Brabrands bobbing head or paint jobs .. I can live with that ..
  • DragnelusDragnelus Member EpicPosts: 3,503
    edited October 2015
    Erillion said:
    Dragnelus said:
    Whats so special about this game? Seems a bit like that battlestar galatica serie? Its released in parts? Pay for a full game? But still need to pay for ships? Or can you also earn them ingame.  What means 3 Month Insurance on ships? Or is this a joke?

    If you really need to pay for something else then the game its a big NO! But maybe if you can also earn it ingame its worth a look.


    EVERYTHING can be bought in game with in game money after launch day.  That includes ships. No real world money needed.

    Yes, there is insurance , but it wont cost much in game money  (kinda like in EVE Online). If you lose your ship, the insurance company will replace the hull and basic modules.

    No monthly fees.

    Its a crowdfunding campaign, so you CAN pledge more money if you want. But you ONLY need a basic package (which currently costs 54 $ .... wait until X-mas, they may have again a special deal for 25 $ like last year). Basic package comes with a ship (Aurora or Mustang).

    They release a solo game (Squadron 42 ... like the old Wing Commander games). And a multiplayer Persistent Universe part.

    More details here:
    https://robertsspaceindustries.com/
    (if you read everything there on that website ... see you in 6 months ;-)


    Have fun

    Ok, thnx! So many comments about they only want your money etc made me also caught in the flood. But yeh I will try it when it launch. Or maybe this week with a code you can tests some simpods I red on a Dutch site.

    With CITCONFLIGHT2K15 you can download Arena Commander alpha and try diff ships or something. I will try it later today.

    Ah yeh it works! Your account is now enabled to play Star Citizen's Arena Commander module.
    This will remain active until October 25th.

    No idea what it means or do but I will download it :pleased: 

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    edited October 2015
    Brorim said:
    Well the only thing they try to push on you there are Brabrands bobbing head or paint jobs .. I can live with that ..
    Hmmm... let us not forget that in order to get the "Horizons" Planetary Landing DLC you AGAIN have to pay for the main game.

    BUT as a veteran you get a discount. ...... Yuppeeee !!   :-/   .... i think......

    So much for not pushing anything on you beyond paint jobs ....


    Have fun


    PS:
    "Brabrands" should mean David Braben, Frontier CEO and "Mr. Elite"..... i guess

  • BrorimBrorim Member UncommonPosts: 91
    Erillion said:
    Brorim said:
    Well the only thing they try to push on you there are Brabrands bobbing head or paint jobs .. I can live with that ..
    Hmmm... let us not forget that in order to get the "Horizons" Planetary Landing DLC you AGAIN have to pay for the main game.

    BUT as a veteran you get a discount. ...... Yuppeeee !!   :-/   .... i think......

    So much for not pushing anything on you beyond paint jobs ....


    Have fun


    PS:
    "Brabrands" should mean David Braben, Frontier CEO and "Mr. Elite"..... i guess

    Well it's an expansion AND we get a DISCOUNT both of which can not be said about SC ..
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited October 2015
    Brorim said:
    Well it's an expansion AND we get a DISCOUNT both of which can not be said about SC ..
    Actually not.

    If it was an expansion, you would need to purchase original game prior an expansion, something you need not. Horizons as they are is just a new game version.

    The discount is supposed to be a limited time pre-order offer only.


    Pricing is a bit stupid towards people who already bought the game since they essentially need to pay for the game again...
  • ZajjarZajjar Member UncommonPosts: 116
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    edited October 2015
    Brorim said:
    Well it's an expansion AND we get a DISCOUNT both of which can not be said about SC ..
    Hmm, ask the 5000 people that got their 20 $ Star Citizen packages (25 $ if you want Alpha access) on Friday 28th Nov 2014

    That was more than 50 % discount  (54 %)


    Have fun

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    edited October 2015
    Here's my code in case you don't want to go back a page to get one! =)
    [mod edit]
    Post edited by Amana on

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?

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  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    bartoni33 said:
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    You paid 50 dollars for E:D and then another 40 for the expansion so it would be safe to say you enjoyed the base game enough and worth the 50 you paid in order to pay the extra 40.

    SC you paid 40 but you have no inkling if the finished game will be any fun or work properly, so you might not even get your money's worth which I believe where the issue comes from.
  • BrorimBrorim Member UncommonPosts: 91
    bartoni33 said:
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    Well .. I got my discount for the ED expansion, no questions asked .. Only reason I'm even talking about this is the way you guys talk about SC .. ED is also a released game which is still a lot more than can be said about SC ..
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited October 2015
    Brorim said:
    Well .. I got my discount for the ED expansion, no questions asked .. Only reason I'm even talking about this is the way you guys talk about SC .. ED is also a released game which is still a lot more than can be said about SC ..
    Even with a discount, you paid for the game+expansion way more than new customer pay(Ł40 only)...

    I understand that new customers pretty much always get better deals, it is still kind of meh tho...

    The truly akward about the expansion is, imo, the fact that it doesn't containt planetary stuff exclusively :/

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    edited October 2015
    Kefo said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    You paid 50 dollars for E:D and then another 40 for the expansion so it would be safe to say you enjoyed the base game enough and worth the 50 you paid in order to pay the extra 40.

    SC you paid 40 but you have no inkling if the finished game will be any fun or work properly, so you might not even get your money's worth which I believe where the issue comes from.
    Well if I want a full game then yes I would be forced to pay more for the rest. That's not cool. I did not enjoy the base game at all therefor I will not be giving them another penny for parceling the game out for a cash grab. I will say this: I believe that within a year of the "expansion" coming out it will become a free DLC for those that purchased before the hard launch. Just a hunch.

    As far as SC is concerned I know what I'm getting out of the gate, I've seen it. I haven't played it yet because the game has not been released yet. But that is how the passage of time works. I will have to wait until it's ready to be released to play it. That takes time. The fact that I'm not being nickeled and dimed to death for a full space sim, whether its good or not, makes me more hopeful for SC.

    Oh yeah I forgot the most important part: NO game is worth $90. NO game. MMO's don't count because you get updates with your sub.

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  • GraeyGraey Member UncommonPosts: 281
    For everyone who wants this game to succeed. I really truly hope it does. Not only that I hope it succeeds in the way it is advertised as well as the way you all want it to. This game has received so much negativity and skepticism. Personally I won't play it either way but not for lack of interest, more so just not my thing. Tried eve online and thought it was a rather neat idea. Very robust to say the least. I will continue to watch and see how this plays out, as I'm curious how this will end and if people will truly be satisfied.

     
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    bartoni33 said:
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    Again, new players get the "full" game for Ł40.

    There is no solution that would satisfy all parties.
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Brorim said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    Well .. I got my discount for the ED expansion, no questions asked .. Only reason I'm even talking about this is the way you guys talk about SC .. ED is also a released game which is still a lot more than can be said about SC ..
    So you are OK with paying $60-90 for a full game? I sure as hell would not be.

    And again, their was a time that ED was not released, remember? Did you shit all over it because of it? Their are THOUSANDS of games that are not yet released. Shall we make preemptive post about how bad they are? Does that make any sense? Neither does trolling (not saying you are but holy shit it's happening at a grand scale) SC because it's not released yet. BTW no fucks are to be given because of the KS release date that has nothing to do with the game we are getting now.

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  • BrorimBrorim Member UncommonPosts: 91
    bartoni33 said:
    Brorim said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    Well .. I got my discount for the ED expansion, no questions asked .. Only reason I'm even talking about this is the way you guys talk about SC .. ED is also a released game which is still a lot more than can be said about SC ..
    So you are OK with paying $60-90 for a full game? I sure as hell would not be.

    And again, their was a time that ED was not released, remember? Did you shit all over it because of it? Their are THOUSANDS of games that are not yet released. Shall we make preemptive post about how bad they are? Does that make any sense? Neither does trolling (not saying you are but holy shit it's happening at a grand scale) SC because it's not released yet. BTW no fucks are to be given because of the KS release date that has nothing to do with the game we are getting now.
    Well Elite Dangerous was released a year ago .. I can live with buying an expansion now ...
  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Gdemami said:
    bartoni33 said:
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    Again, new players get the "full" game for Ł40.

    There is no solution that would satisfy all parties.
    Eww. I am glad that people are happy with what they got then. I sure as hell am not. But I'm not trolling ED at all. It was my honest mistake that I didn't look into it more and find out what I was getting. That's what happens when you assume that all the features that were advertised as coming after launch would be included for the full price. My bad, I now know better. It still seems strange (and honestly a little shady) to split a space sim up into 2 parts that have to be purchased separately.

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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044
    Brorim said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Brorim said:
    bartoni33 said:
    Erillion said:
    Zajjar said:
    Talking about buying expansions before the game is even released, LOL the playerbase is so naive, if they buy into this shit
    You DO know that Brorim is talking about an Elite:Dangerous expansion and not Star Citizen, do you not ?


    Have fun
    You bring up a good point there.

    E:D is charging full price for half a game. Then charging full price for the rest of it. Yet no ones getting all strung out over it (other than me, I'm pissed as hell). I paid $50 for a barebones Flight sim and then I'm expected to pay another $40 for the rest of the game? Yeah that's not going to happen. But I paid $40 for SC and I'm getting a full space sim plus a SP game. But SC is the one ripping people off?
    Well .. I got my discount for the ED expansion, no questions asked .. Only reason I'm even talking about this is the way you guys talk about SC .. ED is also a released game which is still a lot more than can be said about SC ..
    So you are OK with paying $60-90 for a full game? I sure as hell would not be.

    And again, their was a time that ED was not released, remember? Did you shit all over it because of it? Their are THOUSANDS of games that are not yet released. Shall we make preemptive post about how bad they are? Does that make any sense? Neither does trolling (not saying you are but holy shit it's happening at a grand scale) SC because it's not released yet. BTW no fucks are to be given because of the KS release date that has nothing to do with the game we are getting now.
    Well Elite Dangerous was released a year ago .. I can live with buying an expansion now ...
    I see your point.

    To add to my other response to @Gdemami my ultimate mistake as far as my purchase of ED was that I was comparing the 2 games to each other. I assumed (I did it again :() that ED would offer the same gameplay as SC for the same value. It obviously does not. I still think that in the (near) future ED will have the expansion as a free DLC to those that preordered the main game. I think anyone that KS ED should by default get it for free.

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  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,329
    bartoni33 said:
    to split a space sim up into 2 parts that have to be purchased separately.
    It will be more than 2 parts.

    There will be a full "walking around with my avatar on populated planets" part coming out later.

    And that wont be cheap.


    Have fun
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited October 2015
    bartoni33 said:
    Eww. I am glad that people are happy with what they got then. I sure as hell am not. But I'm not trolling ED at all. It was my honest mistake that I didn't look into it more and find out what I was getting. That's what happens when you assume that all the features that were advertised as coming after launch would be included for the full price. My bad, I now know better. It still seems strange (and honestly a little shady) to split a space sim up into 2 parts that have to be purchased separately.
    It is not about being happy, it is about being rational. 


    1) Base game inc. expansion = Ł 40 / 80

    Great deal for new players and developer, sucks for former players - expensive.

    2) Base game inc. expansion + Ł10 discount for former players = Ł 40  / 70

    Same as 1) just sucks a tiny bit less for former players.

    3) Base game + expansion = Ł 80

    Fair to new and former players, but otherwise sucks for everyone, especially for developer - the most expensive of all solutions.

    4) Base game inc. expansion + free expansion for former players = Ł 40

    Great deal for new and former players but sucks for developer - no money from expansions.

    5) Base game + expansion, free expansions for former players = Ł 80 / Ł 40

    Great deal for former players but sucks for new players and developer - expensive for new players, entry barrier.


    etc. etc.


    There is no solution that will work for everyone involved.
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