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Fallout 4 Review - Far More than Boston Common

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  • indiramournindiramourn Member UncommonPosts: 884
    edited November 2015
    So how are the PC version controls? Bethesda is notorious for the crappy ports of their console games to PC. It's what ruined Skyrim for me. Have they gotten a clue and started loving their PC gamers by putting in the effort to make a PC port that feels natural?
  • RazeeksterRazeekster Member UncommonPosts: 2,591
    I actually think I am one of the few people who could not really get into The Witcher 3. I loved the first one but the second and third one just....eh. Not sure what it is
    I wanted to like it, but the game runs like utter garbage. Nothing kills immersion more than having to turn the graphics down to PS2 quality and still getting choppy game play. I'll pick this up when the GOTY package is inevitably released. I'm done buying games on release day only to see them on sale two months later for half price.
    I'm with you on this. And not just the bugs, the game actually gets way better if you play it later. I'm playing DAI now, next stop is W3. Probably will start F4 in the next season or even later. 
    I'd play FO4 first to be honest because the W3 will be way better so it will feel really disappointing if you play FO4 last.

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Wizardry said:
    I wonder if i would share the non half baked idea because we almost never see that as being true.
    Distopia said:
    Rhime said:
    $80-$120 for a pc game is unjustified at this point. I'll wait for the Steam sale.
    Huh? I paid $48.00 after the Green-Man 20% discount.

    Items bought

    Fallout 4 - PC $48.00



    Savings: -$11.99

    Total $48.00


    There is a risk buying from sites like that,likely a very low risk but still one i would not want to pursue. Sadly i have at least trusted Steam in the past but even there many people are buying codes that are already used/not working.
    GMG isn't like G2a or other key seller sites, it's completely legit. They are an official retail partner of the publishers/games they carry.

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  • NevereverlandNevereverland Member UncommonPosts: 161
    The Witcher 3> Fallout 4
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    DMKano said:

    Nitth said:
    I'ts not a very good Fallout game from what ive played so far. However if it wasnt branded fallout it would be a "good" game.

    I felt like I was playing Fallout 3 mod.

    Pretty disappointed so far - how this is getting above 80% reviews is beyond me.
    Ya know .. different strokes for different folks , Lots of people say the same thing about a game like lets see.... Trove for instance, many people think it is complete garbage and how does it get good scores ...
  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 Member UncommonPosts: 1,096
    I am sure it will be a good game, 2 years from now, when people mod it. 
  • josko9josko9 Member RarePosts: 577
    edited November 2015
    Fallout 4 is decent but that's it..Fallout New Vegas was far from perfect, but it was still way better than Fallout 4.  I really expected way better from Bethesda.

    As it stands The Witcher 3 is easily GOTY, while Fallout 4 shouldn't even be in the top 3 games this year..Based on the Steam Charts though, seems like Fallout 4 is doing unbelievable well, might even outsell Skyrim, the hype is just too high. 
  • HarikenHariken Member EpicPosts: 2,680
    DMKano said:

    Nitth said:
    I'ts not a very good Fallout game from what ive played so far. However if it wasnt branded fallout it would be a "good" game.

    I felt like I was playing Fallout 3 mod.

    Pretty disappointed so far - how this is getting above 80% reviews is beyond me.
    Friend of mine bought it and is pissed off now. I told him not to rush buy it and wait. The game is Fallout NV with copied mods from the mod community. The thing new here is the Boston setting. Like i said if you only played Fallout games on console then you should enjoy it. But if you played on PC with dozens of mods then you will feel like you played this already.
  • pinktailzpinktailz Member UncommonPosts: 173
    After I played SOMA that FO4 story seems so weak; not only it is same old vault stuff but it is just too boring  and cliche.. especially beginning: family nonsense - I want my own character because I don't care about his wife, his son, his dog and that robot thing :D You just can't build immersion on cliche story and same looking world imho.

    FO4 is like FO3 revamp, mod with better visuals and quest pack. But if you just want more FO3 you will be happy though.
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    edited November 2015
    After i played the game for some hours i agree that this could be a better FO3 mod, but it's far from being a true FO4.

    I don't understand why better animations and character controls weren't top priority in development.They even copied and pasted animations.
    Not sure what engine this is, but it's badly dated. Being indoors in the game is just a bad experience in so many aspects, but mostly due to the camera and controls. There is always something in your way, object physics are laughable and the 3rd person cam is horrible. Like in every Bethesda title, the mouse-movement feels off.
    NPCs are like in every other Bethesda game as well... standing around somewhere in the wilderness, turning towards you and saying their one-liners.
    The graphics are good at times, then again some textures are totally flat and washed out.

    Glad i didn't pay for this. Game doesn't show any improvement in areas that were already critical in FO3.

    PS: The map is tiny.
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  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    So how are the PC version controls? Bethesda is notorious for the crappy ports of their console games to PC. It's what ruined Skyrim for me. Have they gotten a clue and started loving their PC gamers by putting in the effort to make a PC port that feels natural?
    Controls in FO4 are as clunky/clumsy/off as in every other Bethesda game. If somebody actually likes them that way, he will feel home in FO4 from the very first second.

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  • JDis25JDis25 Member RarePosts: 1,353
    laserit said:
    Pala said:
    I agree with the open world comment, nothing within the world changes without me starting or finishing an ark. Open world is a world that exists without me and I make my way in it not a world in a frozen state waiting for me to interact with it.
    I'd have to disagree about the Open World part. 

    I put about 160 hours into Skyrim and probably only completed about 25% of the main story. It was really easy to just roam around and make my own fun. I did complete the odd side story here and there, but to this day I haven't come close to finishing the main story.

    One thing that told me these games are not Sandboxes is that I wanted to assassinate the rebel leader in Skyrim. I snuck up to his bedchamber and waited... The guy came in and I attacked him, got his health bar all the way down to zero and he would not die, I could have fought him through eternity.

    These games are definitely Open World, but they are definitely not Sandboxes.  
    Mods fix that issue.
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    Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
  • LegendCarissoLegendCarisso Member UncommonPosts: 101
    I cringed when I saw him call Dogmeat a "German Shepard". Good god man, it's an Australian Cattle Dog! At least do your frikkin' research first before making an article.
  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536
    My only complaint is the game didn't come in floppy disk format.
  • grimfallgrimfall Member UncommonPosts: 1,153
    "It’s a Bethesda RPG. One of the pratfalls of a huge open world RPG is that there’s no way to keep the bugs and glitches from rearing their heads." Well, you can, but you have to cut into the profit margin to do so.
  • mikunimanmikuniman Member UncommonPosts: 375
    edited November 2015

    Must be because I'm coming in Fallout series late or something. I'm about 12 hrs in and starting to lose interest already. The stories good but not enough to outweigh the rest. Right off I found the character models horrible and animation, perfect analogy "wooden". The combat and ui is the worse found myself many times throwing grenades in my face. Trying to hit a mob behind cover with half their body showing is a joke. The world is done well.

    I like Bethesda games but I swear it seems they just used material from their other titles to make this one. Not even close to Witcher 3 or Medal Gear V which very nicely taps my GPUs. For myself FO4 chalks up to a bad buy.


    *update*

    Game play got better more hours in shouldn't have been so hasty knocking it. Installed some nexus graphics mods & looks much better. The world and story hooked me in for sure and I'm getting my monies worth. 


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  • ArglebargleArglebargle Member EpicPosts: 3,482

    This is the part I'd have to shake my head at:

    "Oh, and perhaps most importantly, you finally have a voice. Your character talks, man or woman, has their own personality, and develops as a character depending on the choices you make. It’s clear Bethesda took a queue from BioWare here, as even the dialog choices feel distinctly “BioWarian” – and that’s not a bad thing."


    Because it's a bad thing to me.  I am completely capable of using my imagination to form the 'voice' of my characters from the text.   Once they are fully voiced by the designers, that becomes much more difficult.  It also makes modding a lot more difficult.  I pretty much never play a Bethesda game until the modders have gone in and fixed the graphics and UI, re-balanced the game better, spackled over the cracks, etc.  Bethesda makes skeletons, but the modders sew the skin on.


    And BioWarian  dialogue choices?   You mean 'Good-Bad-Snarky'?

    If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.

  • drsponjadrsponja Member UncommonPosts: 1
    This days i am not pre-ordering anything, unless it's made by "CD PROJEKT RED".
    Not going to buy FO4 anytime soon, the game doesn't worth 60$ it worth 25$.
  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    edited November 2015
    Ya, most of the reviews seem rushed, as they reflect all the good and none of the bad I experienced over the first week. Combat, for instance, seemed just awful to me.

    In order to add more progression to the game, they completely gimp you so that it takes around 10 rifle shots to kill a normal raider before you get +rifle perks. Firefights take all day, and npcs box you in and throw continuous waves of grenades and malatov cocktails.

     On the other hand, the whole sims aspect, helping rebuild the world was crazy good, but it certainly didn't negate the bugs, clunkiness on the PC, and shit combat.


  • ArChWindArChWind Member UncommonPosts: 1,340

    Playing this now. Awesomeness.

    Now it is hopefully  just a year away for ES6.

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  • GilnidorGilnidor Member UncommonPosts: 115
    edited November 2015
    I am going to buy the game a bit later. I will wait for Bethesda to release a few patches and the mod community to release a few fixes. I have high hopes when it comes to the great mod creators out there to fix a lot of the issues in the game. They have for sure delivered awesome mods and fixes in the past so I hope they will keep on delivering :)

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  • TeamUpTeamUp Member UncommonPosts: 22
    edited November 2015
    I am looking forward to playing this game in a year or so from now when it is released in a "game of the year" edition with all the DLC included in the 60 dollar (or less) price tag.
  • keeriankeerian Member UncommonPosts: 1
    edited November 2015
    The BIG FACT about this game is that the game is NOT a Fallout but a post apo Skyrim. Fallout identity is dead with Bethesda as we all saw Fallout 3. Obsidian did some good and interesting writing with New Vegas (way better than F3). Bethesda didn't learn one thing and give us "a game to wait" the next Elder Scrolls, but not a Fallout. Where is the humour ? Where are the dialogues ? Where are the choices ? Where is the story (omfg soooo boring, sooo obvious) ? Where is that Fallout identity ? Still with black Isle ... As a Fallout this game sux like never. As a Skyrim like post apo RPG is nice.
  • EladiEladi Member UncommonPosts: 1,145
    Its a good game but the missions get a little boring and repeative after a while.  by the time you enter the final stage of the game (story) you dont realy care for any of the " quest"  anymore.  still was a good 100 hours and have several ways to end the game still to go and about 50% unexplored . 
  • darkhalf357xdarkhalf357x Member UncommonPosts: 1,237
    Highly anticipated but it had to grow on me. With my fourth day in, I can safely say I'm hooked. Some of the systems I disliked at first, I know can see its innovation. The story serves its purpose well. Its so flat that it comes off like a game but not so dramatic that you feel like you are playing someone else. Now I feel immersed in the quests versus looking at them at something to check off. And a part of the immersion has to do with the world. Masterful. I don't care how big it is each of the limited places I've seen oozed fallout. Logical crafting. Finally a system that plays the way I think it should work. I find something I can break it down and then build what I want. Its simple but its deep. Normally in Fallout I'm going after the best weapon and was used to carrying a slew of others. Now? I have like two weapons that I grown attached to through modification. I normally use my NPCs as pack mules and still will. But now I want to hear what they are saying. It feels relevant to what I'm playing. I hate settlements but sub consciously been slowly building Sanctuary back up. It plays like a single player linear story MMO with the understanding of how to leverage a console accessibility to enhance the experience. The only thing that would be better than this would be if they could make it online (seeing ESO as competent but a failure to truly capture the console experience). I. Am. Gamer. Play. Forever

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