First, everyone has heard of WoW. You are not providing ANYTHING of substance to this thread.
Second, "WoW is the best" is simply your opinion. Your opinions matter only to you. You cannot force WoW on everyone. It is utter garbage.
Third, how is WoW's popularity in any way related to my own popularity. And for that matter wtf does my popularity have to do with anything? GTFO.
Fourth, how is it "so great" that you don't even play it. You sir, are the definition of fan boy troll
Again, im pointing out that what he is looking for does exist in current mmo's. Plain as day, lots of mmos consist of what hes looking for, just hes being too picky.
And WoW in general is THE best mmo out there. Theres always a best, who are you kidding? Man, why are you so negative? Not a fan boy like I said, dont even have a sub. Im just realistic, and not close minded.
The real problem is there is too many mmo's. Its splitting up the playerbase, there quality, people just need to wake up and understand that games are ment for the whole, not the single.
Try to get into the Shard online beta, Lord British latest game. Should be "oldschool" enough for you, I think. I will wait until it is ready for release myself though.
errr Lord British new game is SOTA ....................not shards
Ah yes, SOTA.
Stands for Spend Oodles To Access.
Worth noting Shroud of the Avatar is on sale on Steam currently, $22.49
Yeah, $22.49 for the privilege of logging in. Try owning a home or property. Unless you want to grind endlessly, you better get out your wallet. SOTA is a new version of Second Life for people with more money than sense.
Yeah, $22.49 for the privilege of logging in. Try owning a home or property. Unless you want to grind endlessly, you better get out your wallet. SOTA is a new version of Second Life for people with more money than sense.
lol .. "mixed" review on steam.
From the reviews, and I quote:
"Graphics of a 2009 game, Low number of spells, and annoying amounts of grinding just to do a simple thing"
"The combat is crap, and the only interest I felt from the developers was in the insanely expensive cash items they add"
I guess i won't even waste time on this, even if it is f2p.
Yeah, $22.49 for the privilege of logging in. Try owning a home or property. Unless you want to grind endlessly, you better get out your wallet. SOTA is a new version of Second Life for people with more money than sense.
lol .. "mixed" review on steam.
From the reviews, and I quote:
"Graphics of a 2009 game, Low number of spells, and annoying amounts of grinding just to do a simple thing"
"The combat is crap, and the only interest I felt from the developers was in the insanely expensive cash items they add"
I guess i won't even waste time on this, even if it is f2p.
I was one of their early "investors". Thankfully I was able to sell off my account. I wouldn't waste your time on it even if they paid YOU to play the game.
"best" is subjective. For me, Marvel Heroes is better just because of the combat.
Yep, you got it, it is subjective. I was just saying if you stood back, and they polled the world on there favorite mmo, WoW would be the top. Theres always a best to general audience, may fit some, not others.
But the guy whos anti WoW, cant seem to understand my point was what the OP was looking for exist in so many mmos, who just take the flaws to heart to much. Its been a great time for mmo's, it really has. It brought more people to them and made it a mainstream thing. Is that a good thing? Damn right it is. I have more selection then ever, thats why im not subbed to WoW right now. The choices are plentiful, and im grateful for it, I just cant stand that people trash it nowadays
Anyway, my 2 cents, but the world off MMO has evolved to a greater audience, nothing wrong with it my opinion
"best" is subjective. For me, Marvel Heroes is better just because of the combat.
Yep, you got it, it is subjective. I was just saying if you stood back, and they polled the world on there favorite mmo, WoW would be the top. Theres always a best to general audience, may fit some, not others.
Sure .. i do not dispute that. Obvious, being the most popular mmorpg, more players will consider it, subjectively, the best.
Seriously, I was just scrolling down the list of highly rated and released MMO's and none of them sounded appealing. Like literally every single one of them was just giving me a sour feeling and making my head spin.
One of the top rated "MMO's" on this site right now is SMITE. SMITE is a moba!! Its not even an MMO!
ESO is repetitive, FF14 is nothing but grind, Secret World is all mystery no substance, Guild Wars 2 is just Meh.
Literally nothing, you know what I want?
COH
SWG
Everquest 1999
Anything that just lets me make a character in an RPG and head out in the world looking for adventure and danger.
Im sick of hand holding, im sick of exclamation marks above peoples heads, im sick of soloing the content and feeling like a god at level 1. I want a challenge, I want to live in a VIRTUAL WORLD again.
~Fin
whats stopping you from doing that in Rift, or GW2 or even WoW?
Nothing, but $15/month.
But if you want someone to make a game you want, start stating exactly the features you want. I'm a fan of SWG. The hardest thing I have to do I not copy anything that gets me served with a copyright infringement. I have Melee, Range, Healers, Entertainers, and Crafters. How do I progress them without those wonderful 4x4 Profession Trees?
As for CoX, Marvel(Disney) & DC(WB) both own a copyright on the term Super Hero. If any player uses the in game tools to make a character that resembles one of theirs, lawyers will follow. My solution, Standard Human Customization (SHC) with no green skin, stone skin, or full body flame. Costumes are whatever you can buy at Walmart or Amazon and not conflict with copyright.
Tired of feeling like a God at level 1? How about all 16 new characters that day have to gather 10Kg (20Lb) each of deer meat. A deer weighing 30-50Kg and having 30 Hit Points. A level 1 player being able to do 1 Hp at range 5Hp with melee. But here’s the catch, the deer herd will constantly flee if spooked. They won’t stay in a 60m kill box. Animals have speed, Humans have endurance. So one hour to kill two deer and complete a single quest for 16 lowbies, sounds about right?
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
I feel the same way, but not for the exact same reasons.
I feel like each MMORPG that I use to play has burnt the relationship I had with them through unwarranted direction change or addition of systems that has ruined any chance of return for me. What's left are a bunch of games with so much vertical progression creep it doesn't make sense even starting. I came back home for the holidays and I've spent the last couple of hours scouring the internet looking for an MMORPG to jump into while I relax but there's honestly no point unless it's brand new.
GW2
ESO
Tera
TSW
Archeage
Aion
FFXIV
...are all games that I've played and don't have any desire returning to play because of grind mechanics being added, level/power creep or some bizarre mechanic that has ruined "it". The older MMORPGS aren't games you just pick up and start. The future of MMORPGs in the next couple of months doesn't look too bright.
I don't think I'm growing out of the genre, I think that publishers and developers are quite honestly. I feel like I know what I want and I feel that most of us agree with each other so much that we argue over semantics because that's all that's left. We're not that different as MMORPG fans, and our differences aren't some mystery.
"As far as the forum code of conduct, I would think it's a bit outdated and in need of a refre *CLOSED*"
(P.S hand holding is a terrible term. It really is, I wish people would stop saying that. Games wanna ensure players grasp the game)
If you haven't "grasped the game" after playing it for a year, you're never going to. Modern MMOs (largely starting with WoW) feel like endless tutorials.
Honestly I think the only real endgame content is RVR or GVG. How many times can you do the same pve raid or dungeon before you get bored? Get in a guild and run RVR and you will see an endless supply of different things happening. And it is always challenging.
Honestly I think the only real endgame content is RVR or GVG. How many times can you do the same pve raid or dungeon before you get bored? Get in a guild and run RVR and you will see an endless supply of different things happening. And it is always challenging.
I agree. It's emergent gameplay with no beginning and no end.
PVE on the other hand does have a beginning and an end. So called PVE "end game content" is just basically the developers saying: "look... we know you finished the game but we'd love for you to stick around. Here are some time killers for you to play - we know it's different than the real game but play that for a while until we can do more content."
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Honestly I think the only real endgame content is RVR or GVG. How many times can you do the same pve raid or dungeon before you get bored? Get in a guild and run RVR and you will see an endless supply of different things happening. And it is always challenging.
A couple of times? But what does that have to do with anything?
Just finish a game, and move on. It is not like I have to stick with a game just because it is a MMORPG.
sadly MMORPG is dying in the hands of p2w and grinding
Ummmm p2w, yes I agree with you however, grinding I do not. EVERY mmo is a grind, grinding is the genre essentially. You dont like to invest time into it then youre playing the wrong genre my friend.
And to the OP, I wouldnt use the word "literally" because you're using it incorrectly. There ARE mmo's to play just none that suit you right now which I agree with. Pantheon cannot come quicker.
if that is the case, then the mmo genre as it is now, is no longer for you or those trying to cling to the past. I personally have moved on to games like POE and marvel heroes(big arpg fan). with console games here and there but arpg is my bread and butter genre. Time to look for other genres to play. there are nice srpgs and jrpgs out there as well(sword coast,pillar,civ games, and the such)
?????!!!! Don't like ARPGs never did. Don't like console games or the arcade games that preceded them, never did. Don't even own a console, never have. Don't like JRPGs never did. Don't lke TRPGs, never did, and calling them SRPGs does not change that.
Liked MMORPGs like EQ, WoW and EQ2. Rift was OK for a while. Liked some of the others out there too. Not at all sure why I should change my tastes to conform to some other persons.
you aren't forced to change your tastes, but expanding your gaming horizons doesn't hurt one bit. Maybe try a game like EVE online or something ? those mmos you have mentioned are still around, so if they haven't "caught your playing time again", then yes it is time to move on to other genres.
OK in what way is "expanding your gaming horizons" not changing my tastes? Now I have tried EVE at least three times over the last twelve years and it is not for me. I also have played (but ultimately got bored with) "Hearts of Iron", "Europa Universalis", "Battle for Wesnoth", "Steel Panzers", "Scourge of War", "Total War", the original D&D games like "Pools of Radiance", "Submarine 688" and so on and on and on.
But what suits me the best, what I enjoy the most, is MMORPGs like EQ etc. So why am I not playing these any more? Because the developers keep on """"improving""""" them to death by removing complexity and/or moving further down the road with ideas that I consider silly (like the Soul system in Rift). At the moment I am playing EQ2 on the TLE server, but from what I here when they release the "Kingdom of Sky" expansion in January they are going to add some "improvements", the TLE server was a bit of a appointment anyway because the accumulation of changes to the original game are there. But it is the best option I can see out there, at least until (if ever) Pantheon comes out, provided it is not a turkey.
I do not think I am alone in this, and I also think that a number of you out there would enjoy a reinvigorated Everquest experience, a true EQ3 or something spiritually the same from another developer, but I am not holding my breath until one comes out.
But what suits me the best, what I enjoy the most, is MMORPGs like EQ etc. So why am I not playing these any more? Because the developers keep on """"improving""""" them to death by removing complexity and/or moving further down the road with ideas that I consider silly (like the Soul system in Rift).
Check out Project Gorgon for an old school gaming fix. No shiny graphics but pretty good, throw back game play.
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sadly MMORPG is dying in the hands of p2w and grinding
Ummmm p2w, yes I agree with you however, grinding I do not. EVERY mmo is a grind, grinding is the genre essentially. You dont like to invest time into it then youre playing the wrong genre my friend.
And to the OP, I wouldnt use the word "literally" because you're using it incorrectly. There ARE mmo's to play just none that suit you right now which I agree with. Pantheon cannot come quicker.
Well, grinding is a two edged sword. You need it to keep players in the game long term but you need to distract the players from the fact that they are grinding.
There clearly are grinds that are better or worse, daily identical quests for example is bad grinding while rewarding players who complete 5 quests of any kind the same day feels far less annoying. So I think that grinding actually can be a problem even though you do need to have it. Whenever the players forget that they are grinding you are doing things right.
Pay2win is worse, while you initially will earn a large sum fast your game will lose most of the players after a short while. In any MMO where you depend on a large population that is a disaster.
whats stopping you from doing that in Rift, or GW2 or even WoW?
Nothing, but $15/month.
Rift is f2p. GW2 is b2p. You don't need to pay $15/month for these two games.
And that's is why I wasn't speaking about those games, but the ones that cost $15/month. Because F2P & B2P automatically exclude them from consideration, IMO. Sorry, If you couldn't comprehend the meaning. It should have been apparent by your first period. "Rift is f2p. Oh now I see, never mind." If you had put some thought into what you were writing.
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
sadly MMORPG is dying in the hands of p2w and grinding
Ummmm p2w, yes I agree with you however, grinding I do not. EVERY mmo is a grind, grinding is the genre essentially. You dont like to invest time into it then youre playing the wrong genre my friend.
And to the OP, I wouldnt use the word "literally" because you're using it incorrectly. There ARE mmo's to play just none that suit you right now which I agree with. Pantheon cannot come quicker.
Well, grinding is a two edged sword. You need it to keep players in the game long term but you need to distract the players from the fact that they are grinding.
There clearly are grinds that are better or worse, daily identical quests for example is bad grinding while rewarding players who complete 5 quests of any kind the same day feels far less annoying. So I think that grinding actually can be a problem even though you do need to have it. Whenever the players forget that they are grinding you are doing things right.
Pay2win is worse, while you initially will earn a large sum fast your game will lose most of the players after a short while. In any MMO where you depend on a large population that is a disaster.
If they weren't paying, they were never part of the population. The day will come when that segment of the population will be pure Cylon. By Cylon, I mean my strategy to replace P4F gamers with sophisticated AI. Capable of game play and conversation.
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Seriously, I was just scrolling down the list of highly rated and released MMO's and none of them sounded appealing. Like literally every single one of them was just giving me a sour feeling and making my head spin.
One of the top rated "MMO's" on this site right now is SMITE. SMITE is a moba!! Its not even an MMO!
ESO is repetitive, FF14 is nothing but grind, Secret World is all mystery no substance, Guild Wars 2 is just Meh.
Literally nothing, you know what I want?
COH
SWG
Everquest 1999
Anything that just lets me make a character in an RPG and head out in the world looking for adventure and danger.
Im sick of hand holding, im sick of exclamation marks above peoples heads, im sick of soloing the content and feeling like a god at level 1. I want a challenge, I want to live in a VIRTUAL WORLD again.
if that is the case, then the mmo genre as it is now, is no longer for you or those trying to cling to the past. I personally have moved on to games like POE and marvel heroes(big arpg fan). with console games here and there but arpg is my bread and butter genre. Time to look for other genres to play. there are nice srpgs and jrpgs out there as well(sword coast,pillar,civ games, and the such)
?????!!!! Don't like ARPGs never did. Don't like console games or the arcade games that preceded them, never did. Don't even own a console, never have. Don't like JRPGs never did. Don't lke TRPGs, never did, and calling them SRPGs does not change that.
Liked MMORPGs like EQ, WoW and EQ2. Rift was OK for a while. Liked some of the others out there too. Not at all sure why I should change my tastes to conform to some other persons.
you aren't forced to change your tastes, but expanding your gaming horizons doesn't hurt one bit. Maybe try a game like EVE online or something ? those mmos you have mentioned are still around, so if they haven't "caught your playing time again", then yes it is time to move on to other genres.
OK in what way is "expanding your gaming horizons" not changing my tastes? Now I have tried EVE at least three times over the last twelve years and it is not for me. I also have played (but ultimately got bored with) "Hearts of Iron", "Europa Universalis", "Battle for Wesnoth", "Steel Panzers", "Scourge of War", "Total War", the original D&D games like "Pools of Radiance", "Submarine 688" and so on and on and on.
But what suits me the best, what I enjoy the most, is MMORPGs like EQ etc. So why am I not playing these any more? Because the developers keep on """"improving""""" them to death by removing complexity and/or moving further down the road with ideas that I consider silly (like the Soul system in Rift). At the moment I am playing EQ2 on the TLE server, but from what I here when they release the "Kingdom of Sky" expansion in January they are going to add some "improvements", the TLE server was a bit of a appointment anyway because the accumulation of changes to the original game are there. But it is the best option I can see out there, at least until (if ever) Pantheon comes out, provided it is not a turkey.
I do not think I am alone in this, and I also think that a number of you out there would enjoy a reinvigorated Everquest experience, a true EQ3 or something spiritually the same from another developer, but I am not holding my breath until one comes out.
Well said and I agree. I would love to have seen a true EQ3 that was just a remake of EQ1 but with updated graphics, UI and features or even a re-imagined EQ1 that at least attempted to maintain the spirit of EQ1. The whole EQNext project is a huge letdown. The goofy artwork design. The F2P nonsense. So lame. It's questionable it will even get released and that's probably a good thing considering the direction it was going.
I also agree with the OP. I would love to be playing an MMO right now but none of them appeal to me. ESO had great potential and I stuck with it for a long while but it rapidly transformed into garbage thanks to the whole F2P/B2P plague that has infected the MMO genre and I no longer want anything to do with it.
Ironically, I think Pantheon is the only MMO that has any hope of recapturing some of the essence of the original MMOs like EQ but it seems like a longshot. The MMO genre is really in a sad state which is a shame. I can't imagine how much more amazing an experience EQ could have been with the computing power and MMO features of today.
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And WoW in general is THE best mmo out there. Theres always a best, who are you kidding? Man, why are you so negative? Not a fan boy like I said, dont even have a sub. Im just realistic, and not close minded.
The real problem is there is too many mmo's. Its splitting up the playerbase, there quality, people just need to wake up and understand that games are ment for the whole, not the single.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
~~ postlarval ~~
From the reviews, and I quote:
"Graphics of a 2009 game, Low number of spells, and annoying amounts of grinding just to do a simple thing"
"The combat is crap, and the only interest I felt from the developers was in the insanely expensive cash items they add"
I guess i won't even waste time on this, even if it is f2p.
~~ postlarval ~~
But the guy whos anti WoW, cant seem to understand my point was what the OP was looking for exist in so many mmos, who just take the flaws to heart to much. Its been a great time for mmo's, it really has. It brought more people to them and made it a mainstream thing. Is that a good thing? Damn right it is. I have more selection then ever, thats why im not subbed to WoW right now. The choices are plentiful, and im grateful for it, I just cant stand that people trash it nowadays
Anyway, my 2 cents, but the world off MMO has evolved to a greater audience, nothing wrong with it my opinion
Denying that is just silly.
Nothing, but $15/month.
But if you want someone to make a game you want, start stating exactly the features you want. I'm a fan of SWG. The hardest thing I have to do I not copy anything that gets me served with a copyright infringement. I have Melee, Range, Healers, Entertainers, and Crafters. How do I progress them without those wonderful 4x4 Profession Trees?
As for CoX, Marvel(Disney) & DC(WB) both own a copyright on the term Super Hero. If any player uses the in game tools to make a character that resembles one of theirs, lawyers will follow. My solution, Standard Human Customization (SHC) with no green skin, stone skin, or full body flame. Costumes are whatever you can buy at Walmart or Amazon and not conflict with copyright.
Tired of feeling like a God at level 1? How about all 16 new characters that day have to gather 10Kg (20Lb) each of deer meat. A deer weighing 30-50Kg and having 30 Hit Points. A level 1 player being able to do 1 Hp at range 5Hp with melee. But here’s the catch, the deer herd will constantly flee if spooked. They won’t stay in a 60m kill box. Animals have speed, Humans have endurance. So one hour to kill two deer and complete a single quest for 16 lowbies, sounds about right?
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
I feel like each MMORPG that I use to play has burnt the relationship I had with them through unwarranted direction change or addition of systems that has ruined any chance of return for me. What's left are a bunch of games with so much vertical progression creep it doesn't make sense even starting. I came back home for the holidays and I've spent the last couple of hours scouring the internet looking for an MMORPG to jump into while I relax but there's honestly no point unless it's brand new.
- GW2
- ESO
- Tera
- TSW
- Archeage
- Aion
- FFXIV
...are all games that I've played and don't have any desire returning to play because of grind mechanics being added, level/power creep or some bizarre mechanic that has ruined "it". The older MMORPGS aren't games you just pick up and start. The future of MMORPGs in the next couple of months doesn't look too bright.I don't think I'm growing out of the genre, I think that publishers and developers are quite honestly. I feel like I know what I want and I feel that most of us agree with each other so much that we argue over semantics because that's all that's left. We're not that different as MMORPG fans, and our differences aren't some mystery.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
PVE on the other hand does have a beginning and an end. So called PVE "end game content" is just basically the developers saying: "look... we know you finished the game but we'd love for you to stick around. Here are some time killers for you to play - we know it's different than the real game but play that for a while until we can do more content."
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Just finish a game, and move on. It is not like I have to stick with a game just because it is a MMORPG.
And to the OP, I wouldnt use the word "literally" because you're using it incorrectly. There ARE mmo's to play just none that suit you right now which I agree with. Pantheon cannot come quicker.
Now I have tried EVE at least three times over the last twelve years and it is not for me. I also have played (but ultimately got bored with) "Hearts of Iron", "Europa Universalis", "Battle for Wesnoth", "Steel Panzers", "Scourge of War", "Total War", the original D&D games like "Pools of Radiance", "Submarine 688" and so on and on and on.
But what suits me the best, what I enjoy the most, is MMORPGs like EQ etc. So why am I not playing these any more? Because the developers keep on """"improving""""" them to death by removing complexity and/or moving further down the road with ideas that I consider silly (like the Soul system in Rift). At the moment I am playing EQ2 on the TLE server, but from what I here when they release the "Kingdom of Sky" expansion in January they are going to add some "improvements", the TLE server was a bit of a appointment anyway because the accumulation of changes to the original game are there. But it is the best option I can see out there, at least until (if ever) Pantheon comes out, provided it is not a turkey.
I do not think I am alone in this, and I also think that a number of you out there would enjoy a reinvigorated Everquest experience, a true EQ3 or something spiritually the same from another developer, but I am not holding my breath until one comes out.
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There clearly are grinds that are better or worse, daily identical quests for example is bad grinding while rewarding players who complete 5 quests of any kind the same day feels far less annoying. So I think that grinding actually can be a problem even though you do need to have it. Whenever the players forget that they are grinding you are doing things right.
Pay2win is worse, while you initially will earn a large sum fast your game will lose most of the players after a short while. In any MMO where you depend on a large population that is a disaster.
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
sounds like you want a single player game.
Well said and I agree. I would love to have seen a true EQ3 that was just a remake of EQ1 but with updated graphics, UI and features or even a re-imagined EQ1 that at least attempted to maintain the spirit of EQ1. The whole EQNext project is a huge letdown. The goofy artwork design. The F2P nonsense. So lame. It's questionable it will even get released and that's probably a good thing considering the direction it was going.
I also agree with the OP. I would love to be playing an MMO right now but none of them appeal to me. ESO had great potential and I stuck with it for a long while but it rapidly transformed into garbage thanks to the whole F2P/B2P plague that has infected the MMO genre and I no longer want anything to do with it.
Ironically, I think Pantheon is the only MMO that has any hope of recapturing some of the essence of the original MMOs like EQ but it seems like a longshot. The MMO genre is really in a sad state which is a shame. I can't imagine how much more amazing an experience EQ could have been with the computing power and MMO features of today.