Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by Fadeus Really, you like cybernetics? That was rather tastelessly put in to me since during that era cybernetics were lifelike and not the redicluous looking limbs that that they have in the game now that aren't even up to par for episode 1 -3.They should have made it where the more you pay, the better the implant. If you forget to clone you get prompted on what type of implant you want based on how much your willing to pay. That would have been more sensible to me and not seemed like a yet another era shredding move by marketting because they chose the wrong timeframe to have the game in.
I agree they aren't particularly attractive but they are fun and a nice addition to the game.
And the quested ones are quite nice some even look half-decent though I do agree that they could have made them look more appropriate to the timeline. As far as what the cybernetics can do.... I LOVE the resusscitate arm and the range enhancer arms are awesome. I'm sure combat medics love the throw range arm and I know that the TK's in my PA like the electric and the Melee arm.
I have never actually seen one other then on someone else. So I don't know what all they do. I decided if I end up with one on me accident I would deal with it but otherwise I wasn't hugely interesting in chasing them down. When I first saw the slots get put in I thought it was going to be implants like AO, which I was kinda excited about. Then I saw a jedi with cybernetic legs and hips and I about fell outta my chair laughing.
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Originally posted by Wheezal oh man the people who go full on cyber everything they can get there hands on scare me!! i got a good offense as is, so the arms wont do anything for me. i'd rather have the advantage of keeping my defenses in tact with armor.
Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun.
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" Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun."
well now ya get a revealing look deep into my psyche! a swirling miasma of scinitllating thoughts and turgind ideas! prepare yourself for a revelation of unprecedented ....
bah, no..no i wouldn't like that at all. as a smuggler i just slap a ST and use LD on em i'm not in it to kill jedi, just to get em riled up some
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Originally posted by Wheezal " Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun."
well now ya get a revealing look deep into my psyche! a swirling miasma of scinitllating thoughts and turgind ideas! prepare yourself for a revelation of unprecedented .... bah, no..no i wouldn't like that at all. as a smuggler i just slap a ST and use LD on em i'm not in it to kill jedi, just to get em riled up some
LOL
Well I *am* a bounty hunter. I'm not *in it* to kill jedi but they are part of my game content so I do occasionally hunt them (especially the ones who are total morons about it).
And the ranged arms are also nice if you decide to solo Krayt Dragons or something.
But lets put this nearer to your heart... If there were a set of cyber arms that allowed you to say.... slice items with a guaranteed +15% to your results, would you use them?
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" But lets put this nearer to your heart... If there were a set of cyber arms that allowed you to say.... slice items with a guaranteed +15% to your results, would you use them? "
i plead the 5th you teasing bastage!!!
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god i hate you, think you're such a know it all...
Originally posted by Elnator
Originally posted by Boozer1011 REgarding your comment on relying on episode 3 for sales, why do you think they rushed the "upgrade" to the live servers? Just so they could have it out with Ep3. I'd say that's all they are relying on.
Erm... actually they were relying on it to boost sales. They've fixed almost every bug that was introduced with the CU at this point and are starting to work on the less visible but annoying bugs out there. The game is far more balanced and tons of players are coming back from early release, beta and even some who quit after the CU have come back. I'd say they wanted EPIII to boost sales but they're also trying to improve the game. I haven't seen bugs stomped this fast in SWG well.... ever.
Fixed almost every bug? C'mon, take a look at the "In Live" forums on SWG and the discussion threads. How many "hot fixes" and "patches" are there? The game is loaded with bugs. And they are stomped out so fast, because there are so many of them to fix!
Originally posted by Boozer1011 I played SWG since launch and quit after the so-called "upgrade". I didn't give it much of a chance, because it became just like all other games out there. Max out at level 80, which means you're just like all other level 80's.
Would LOVE to know where you get this idea from? Level "80" is just a 'finished template'. It's not a level system it's a skill system with levels painted over it. Seriously, where you get the idea that it's suddenly a level based game just because a finished template has CL80 next to their name is beyond me.
Try PLAYING post CU before trying to comment on it. Yes, CL gives SLIGHT bonuses to damage and durability but mostly all it is is a measure of what type of NPC you can expect to take on. In Player Vs. Player CL makes less of an impact than what skills you have. As it always has.
Well I get it from the fact that I was a Master Pistoleer, BH 333x, and some carb or med, I don't remember, but I killed jedi no problem. After the CU, I was a 72, and couldn't do any damage at all. Oh, and here is a quote from you from the thread on this forum titled "PvP in SWG":
Um Erillion that's not really true. For One on One PVP it's good to have 2.5 elites. I only have 2 elites and one box of pistoleer. The rest is in novice medic for self healing. I do very well in PVP duels AND in PVP group combat.
But, yes, it's a good idea to be CL80... any mix of skills that gets you there is fine for Dueling.
You go on to mention that you can be lower in group combat, but as a BH hunting Jedi, that means nothing to me. So there ya go contradicting yourself.
Originally posted by Boozer1011 The crafting was phenomenal, and it still is complex, but guess what? You'll never make a weapon all that much better than anyone else, because now they have hard caps on the damage they do. Armor is (or was for the very limited time I played) useless now. I don't even know how many professions are still broke. Uber weapons were nerfed.
Errr... where'd you dig up this little gem? I have yet to see a "hard cap" on how much damage a weapon can do. They still vary a lot on output and the very best weapons are still extremely expensive. Crafting really hasn't changed at all. Armor is NOT useless now.... lol I dare you to go hunting without armor. Uber weapons weren't nerfed, weapons were changed quite a bit but there are still plenty of "uber" weapons out there. Some didn't translate well through the CU I'll grant you (My Krayted Scatter really got wacked but my Laser Rifle turned into a god weapon .Haven't stumbled across a "broken" class yet. Doctors have the most right to complain about their class because it was changed at a fundamental level but it's still a viable and valued profession. Not broken, just radically changed which peeved a lot of players (rightfully so in some ways).
Where did I get this little gem you ask? How about the SWG Weaponsmith forum, from the thread titled "Reference for Weapon Caps":
And you haven't stumbled on a broken class huh Elnator? To quote you once again from a thread on this forum titled "Seriously, What has changed?"
I would go so far to say that Commando is pretty broken right now and TKA got powered down because they were so overpowered before the CU...
The orange just points out your contradictions, I'll stop at 2 for now cuz it's late. And let's take a look again at that SWG forum on the latest hot fix discussion thread, look it up yourself if you want:
You promised us Crafters before the Combat Upgrade that we would get our Upgrade after the CU, we haven't gotten it. Our professions have been constantly broken worse and worse with each patch since your CU. Don't you think its time to pay attention to other aspects of the game?
Originally posted by Boozer1011 I'm not one that liked 90% armor and the anti-decay kit was the beginning of the end. What I did like was going out and gathering the materials and loot I needed to make myself an uber Jedi hunting weapon. I finally did, and all my weapons became just as good as a stock weapon, if not worse.
Can still do that. You may need to go make new ones though. I love my 1200 damage rifle for hunting Jedi.
Whatever, refer to the weapon caps link...and that rifle does a lot for a pistoleer, the new "crowd controlling" profession.
I tried to post this a minute ago and lost it all somehow, and I had more to say, but screw it, this is enough. Get off your high horse, know it all. Go contradict yourself some more...
I couldnt tell you how SWG is doing these days first hand. I was one of the ones that left. I was also one of the ones that gave it every chance i could before they released the upgrade way too early, and half finished. I havent ever supported a game with devs have had the same piss poor work ethic that the SWG devs have had.. and i wasn't about to start. and before some of you start spouting off at the mouth. The rushed, and unfinished CU was just the straw that broke the camels back for me. It was almost a year and a half of the dev's pissing me off with this, or with that.. or breaking this. then fixing it with something that broke five other things, and so on. Initially i wasnt planning on not comming back. My plans were to cancel my account for the time being because I was not about have my main character be a beta tester while they tried to finish what they had already released. It would have been a waste of my time, and a waste of my money. The only fun that i would have been having would have been repeatedly stabbing my hand with a butterknife to try and deafen the raging headache the devs would have given me. So I left.. but also planned to check back regulary to see if the upgrade did progress. From what I have seen, read, heard first hand from friends in the game. It is still not something that I can see is worth me handing 15 dollars a month to SOE for. Larger populations mean jack to me. A new planet with a few quests that get very old after you've done them once means jack to me. pretty special effects for weapons mean jack to me. It's sad that I cannot bring myself to re-activate my account because over the past year and a half i had developed friendships with many people within the game. but unfortunetly even that is not enough to justify paying for a game that i have no intrest in playing anymore.
I love how people take a couple posts out of context.
For DUELING you should have 2.5 elites (CL80) or whatever because it gives you the slight damage modifiers etc. A DUEL is not the same as hunting a Jedi.
For Killing JEDI you need: Healing Good Specials Anti-KD foods Action and Health Regen Food/Drink Some folks swear by spices but I don't use them. and Good Range so you can stay out of the 32m range of Sabre throw. But, most importantly, you need to use tactics, patience and guile. You don't take on FRS Knights by running up and yanking on your trigger as fast as you can.
You do NOT need to be CL80, some of the best Bounty Hunters are around CL 74-76.
I'm sorry, at CL72 you couldn't do "any" damage to a Jedi? Why not? At CL 75 before I re-worked my template a bit I was taking on Jedi no problem. You aren't going to go toe-to-toe with a Knight. I don't care WHAT CL you are. They will eat you. A BH against a Knight you need to do more than run up and start spamming KD and Eyeshot at them. You need to have a plan, tactics, skill and, most of all, guile and patience. You have to get the drop on them and work against their weaknesses. Run them out of force power or you WILL die, regardless of your template, abilities or skill.
And, like I said, Commando is sort of broken, it's the only class that I'll agree is really broken at all and ONLY Because it doesn't have special attacks of it's own. However, those who have Commando/Pistoleer or Commando/Smuggler are the best crowd control people around. Nothing like an AOE Concussion shot to get things back under control when things are getting crazy on you.
Yes, the game has bugs, every game has bugs. But the number of bugs goes down with every hotfix. The number of broken missions has gone down too and the game is doing just fine. By the way most of the bugged missions are from ROTW which was a rushed expansion like we have all stated multiple times because they wanted to have it out in time for EPIII. Matter of fact most of the bugs are a direct result of the rushing of the CU and ROTW. Prior to CU the game was relatively bug free for the most part.
You can keep blasting it all you want and you can continue to try to convince people not to try it but the fact is the game is better today than it was last week. And it was better last week than the week before. And it's far better now than it was Pre-CU.
I understand you don't like the CU, that's fine. So don't play.
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LOL, out of context? they are direct quotes where you contradict yourself. For some reason, you defend the game like it's your girlfriend or something. Anything anyone says, you have a "defense" on that complaint. Even if it means contradicting yourself. You love it, that's fantastic. Stop acting like a know it all p#!ck. No game has this many bugs. The reason is that it's simply not ready to be released. You are paying $15 a month for an open beta. If you find it worth that 15 bucks, than great. I'm not trying to get anyone NOT to play it. I'm just saying that when you do, you're playing an open beta for $15 a month. The SWG forums will tell you everything you need to know. So many people complaining about bugs and broken professions.
You've lost all credibility with your contradicting statements. If anyone listens to you today, they will see another post tomorrow where you say something different. "I've yet to see a broken profession" "I'd say commando is pretty broken right now"
Originally posted by Boozer1011 LOL, out of context? they are direct quotes where you contradict yourself. For some reason, you defend the game like it's your girlfriend or something. Anything anyone says, you have a "defense" on that complaint. Even if it means contradicting yourself. You love it, that's fantastic. Stop acting like a know it all p#!ck. No game has this many bugs. The reason is that it's simply not ready to be released. You are paying $15 a month for an open beta. If you find it worth that 15 bucks, than great. I'm not trying to get anyone NOT to play it. I'm just saying that when you do, you're playing an open beta for $15 a month. The SWG forums will tell you everything you need to know. So many people complaining about bugs and broken professions. You've lost all credibility with your contradicting statements. If anyone listens to you today, they will see another post tomorrow where you say something different. "I've yet to see a broken profession" "I'd say commando is pretty broken right now" later bro, i'm done wasting my time with you
I'm not acting like a know it all I'm simply answering questions with what answers I have. You call it contradicting I prefer to admit when I'm wrong and clarify when I'm unclear. You can label it how you will.
Yes, the Commando class has issues and I would label it 'broken'. At the time that I said it didn't have any broken classes I was unaware that commando had no specials at this time. So I have revised my statement and admit that Commando is broken.
As to the Combat Level issue you seem confused. DUELING is not the same as hunting Jedi. Go read the BH forums. Many Bounty Hunters that do just fine are around CL76. The game has SOME bugs. ALL games have some bugs. Go read any games forums and you will find that they ALL have bugs or problems of some kind or another. I know because I've played almost every single one of them.
For *ME* SWG is the best game out right now. I enjoy it. You don't. That's great. I'm not trying to convince you that you will like it but you come here trying to make it sound like the game has "so many bugs" that it's "unplayable" which is patently untrue. You try to make it sound like multiple classes are so broken that they're unplayable. Which is also patently untrue. Sure Commando may not have it's own skills right now but it's FAR from unplayable. When combined with other professions it is VERY powerful indeed.... but you're absolutely right a Commando (with no other combat profs) would not be a good choice to play whereas you could conceivably choose to go Pistoleer with no other combat profs and do fine. So, yes, the profession is broken but it's hardly "unplayable".
And, actually, since I have the SOE all Access Pass and I play PlanetSide, SWG and EQ2 from time to time I think of it more like $7.30 a month per game. And, yes, it's certainly worth the fee to me.
As I said, the statement "I've yet to see a broken profession" was made before I found out that Commando has no specials. Before the CU it DID have it's own specials. I hadn't tried Commando at the time and I have since making that statement. Thus I revised my statement when someone discussed it. Or would you rather I go back to all my old posts and edit them anytime something new comes to light rather than just making a new post? Get a grip.
Gee, go figure, I changed my opinion when details came to light that I was unaware of. I'm able to change my point of view... are you?
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Commando was one of the most anticipated prof's with the release of the CU, so if it took you this long to figure out it's broke, then how can you even speak of a crafting prof, or even any other less desirable combat prof?
You were outright wrong about the caps on weapons, as I showed you in that post from the Weaponsmith forums, and I'm pretty sure you're wrong about no other prof's being broke.
Again, I'll give you a little clip of the latest in the SWG Forums:
FIX TAILOR AND ARMORSMITH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! You broke em 2 publishes ago where is the fix........this is seriously a really bad sign of things to come.
That took me a grand total of a minute to find. I'm sure if i dedicated a little more time, I could find more prof's broken.
Originally posted by Boozer1011 Commando was one of the most anticipated prof's with the release of the CU, so if it took you this long to figure out it's broke, then how can you even speak of a crafting prof, or even any other less desirable combat prof? You were outright wrong about the caps on weapons, as I showed you in that post from the Weaponsmith forums, and I'm pretty sure you're wrong about no other prof's being broke. Again, I'll give you a little clip of the latest in the SWG Forums: FIX TAILOR AND ARMORSMITH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! You broke em 2 publishes ago where is the fix........this is seriously a really bad sign of things to come. That took me a grand total of a minute to find. I'm sure if i dedicated a little more time, I could find more prof's broken.
Anyone can find a post griping about anything on the official forums. What is supposedly broken? I'll ask the guild armorsmith next time I see him if he feels broken. Not sure what's wrong with the class, he made me a full set of assault armor 2 days ago.
Unless he's mad that it's harder now to find cores because it's harder to kill the creatures that drop them? That I can agree with but that's a spawn/drop issue, not a profession bug.
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it became just like all other games out there. Max out at level 80, which means you're just like all other level 80's.
Well if you think about it, lvls have basically always existed, just not visibly. Not to mention that your character's individuality was more based on the way you act and what you do. If you were in a buff line you'd just see a bunch of master titles and full composit ....... on everyone. My point is that you're going to be equal to others no matter what because otherwise it's not fair.
Originally posted by Elnator Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun.
Taram doesn't have an in-character wife, does he....
LOL! Noobia's husband got a cybernetic arm and she kicked him out of bed till he got his real arm back... and that was just an arm. I've seen the legs. The revulsion goes way farther than aesthetics in an RP sense.
Originally posted by webly17 Hmmm is WOW having some kind of mass exodus?
I hope so. I got sick of the Blizzard Fan boys and 12 year olds ruining the community with their constant immaturity and whining. And me and my brother both found that the game economy and crafting system was a little bit too simple. I got sick of doing the same old quests over and over - "Kill 10 and these and 15 of these".
I'm coming from WoW to SWG, got SWG on it's way... but I'm not sure if I'm quitting WoW quite yet.
The problem I have with WoW is that it went too quick, got to 60... got to 60 again. Now what? I mean, there is nothing to do. The ONLY reason I wouldn't quit is the community.
Well Wow is not doing bad at all (2mil subscribers ) ...but look at all mmos ...at release loads of ppl buy them and some of them leave ..... so the comunity of wow is getting "filtered" ... and only the ppl who realy like the game how it is <> will stay . I also want to try SWG again after all this time . i believe it changed a lot since release ...
Originally posted by battleaxe22 Well Wow is not doing bad at all (2mil subscribers ) ...but look at all mmos ...at release loads of ppl buy them and some of them leave ..... so the comunity of wow is getting "filtered" ... and only the ppl who realy like the game how it is <> will stay . I also want to try SWG again after all this time . i believe it changed a lot since release ...
Originally posted by Elnator Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun.
Taram doesn't have an in-character wife, does he....
LOL! Noobia's husband got a cybernetic arm and she kicked him out of bed till he got his real arm back... and that was just an arm. I've seen the legs. The revulsion goes way farther than aesthetics in an RP sense.
No, I'm married in RL, I don't date in-game Though SWG does have some seriously cute women folk that are fun to look at Hehe didn't really think much about the 'consequences' those legs cary with them though LOL I'll have to share this one with my wife, she'll get a kick out of that.
Now that I think about it though it explains why Grievous was such a jack*ss in EPIII
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Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by azhrarn Originally posted by Elnator Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun.
Taram doesn't have an in-character wife, does he....
LOL! Noobia's husband got a cybernetic arm and she kicked him out of bed till he got his real arm back... and that was just an arm. I've seen the legs. The revulsion goes way farther than aesthetics in an RP sense.
No, I'm married in RL, I don't date in-game Though SWG does have some seriously cute women folk that are fun to look at Hehe didn't really think much about the 'consequences' those legs cary with them though LOL I'll have to share this one with my wife, she'll get a kick out of that.
Now that I think about it though it explains why Grievous was such a jack*ss in EPIII
Heheheh! I knew it. It's a woman thing, it really is. And people say men are bad with the filthymindedness. Consequences... I love how you put that.
I really can't stand how they made the cyber arms and legs look. IMO it's not very Star Wars and it doesn't show any real care or work on the part of the concept designers. They're so aestheticly awful that when I was master rifle I wouldn't wear one even for PvP. My PA offered me one when we did Necrosis and I wouldn't take it. They're just that hideous -- even the "really good ones".
But there's a lot that came with Kashyyk that I'm not terribly fond of, especially the setup of the planet itself. It looks very much like I'm a minority in this though. I haven't heard many people complain about it at any rate and far too many of my friends practically live there, which speaks volumes about its success with the average player. Selfishly, I find myself wishing that they hadn't put the neatest cheesy loot (animal head trophies, wookie totems, ceremonial chairs and all that fun, dorky house decor) on Kashyyk, where it is beyond my reach (because the trip to Kashyyk is almost garaunteed to set me up for one of my horrendous migraines when combined with the particle effects that STILL happen even when I turn them off from my attacks). Fortunately for me, my PA is wonderful and thoughtful, and will often bring home little toys for me (still deeply touched by the pair of little Voodoo Dolls that Szora got me) but it hurts my female pride to know that I can't reasonably get them myself.
Heh, I have such a love/hate relationship with this stupid game....
Well when i`l ding 60 in wow with 1 char ..i'l get teh uber gear then start another one ..I have no intention of leaving since i met a lot of nice ppl ingame ... Got Swg today ..but i didn't read that if you add ur key to ur old account you loose the fr33 30 days..well now im stuck with the game and without a working account ) uhm mebe ur wandering im damn stupid ..well its true ...i`l try to get some moneys for it soon ... so i played the game for 5 days close after release ... cought borring and buggy cought ... So now the hype is back as it once was .On what Euro server should i play ^^ ??
cant say how its doing now, but I cancelled all 3 of my accounts . While I wish them well, I doubt I will ever return. I didnt really like the CU and feel it was rushed and they didnt bother listening to any input from the commmunity.
Plus I threw my disks away and uninstalled SWG from my computer, got that fed up. I dont plan on playing any SOE game anymore. I quit EQ2 and uninstalled it and threw away the disks as well.
For those that like the new SWG , I am happy for you. For those who dislike the CU , I am with you on it.
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I agree they aren't particularly attractive but they are fun and a nice addition to the game.
And the quested ones are quite nice some even look half-decent though I do agree that they could have made them look more appropriate to the timeline. As far as what the cybernetics can do.... I LOVE the resusscitate arm and the range enhancer arms are awesome. I'm sure combat medics love the throw range arm and I know that the TK's in my PA like the electric and the Melee arm.
I have never actually seen one other then on someone else. So I don't know what all they do. I decided if I end up with one on me accident I would deal with it but otherwise I wasn't hugely interesting in chasing them down. When I first saw the slots get put in I thought it was going to be implants like AO, which I was kinda excited about. Then I saw a jedi with cybernetic legs and hips and I about fell outta my chair laughing.
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oh man the people who go full on cyber everything they can get there hands on scare me!!
i got a good offense as is, so the arms wont do anything for me. i'd rather have the advantage of keeping my defenses in tact with armor.
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Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun.
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" Dunno about you but I enjoy attacking Jedi from 93m away and being able to keep up with them at force run with cyborg burstrun."
well now ya get a revealing look deep into my psyche! a swirling miasma of scinitllating thoughts and turgind ideas! prepare yourself for a revelation of unprecedented ....
bah, no..no i wouldn't like that at all. as a smuggler i just slap a ST and use LD on em
i'm not in it to kill jedi, just to get em riled up some 
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Well I *am* a bounty hunter. I'm not *in it* to kill jedi but they are part of my game content so I do occasionally hunt them (especially the ones who are total morons about it).
And the ranged arms are also nice if you decide to solo Krayt Dragons or something.
But lets put this nearer to your heart...
If there were a set of cyber arms that allowed you to say.... slice items with a guaranteed +15% to your results, would you use them?
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If there were a set of cyber arms that allowed you to say.... slice items with a guaranteed +15% to your results, would you use them?
i plead the 5th you teasing bastage!!!
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Erm... actually they were relying on it to boost sales. They've fixed almost every bug that was introduced with the CU at this point and are starting to work on the less visible but annoying bugs out there. The game is far more balanced and tons of players are coming back from early release, beta and even some who quit after the CU have come back. I'd say they wanted EPIII to boost sales but they're also trying to improve the game. I haven't seen bugs stomped this fast in SWG well.... ever.
Fixed almost every bug? C'mon, take a look at the "In Live" forums on SWG and the discussion threads. How many "hot fixes" and "patches" are there? The game is loaded with bugs. And they are stomped out so fast, because there are so many of them to fix!
Would LOVE to know where you get this idea from? Level "80" is just a 'finished template'. It's not a level system it's a skill system with levels painted over it. Seriously, where you get the idea that it's suddenly a level based game just because a finished template has CL80 next to their name is beyond me.
Try PLAYING post CU before trying to comment on it. Yes, CL gives SLIGHT bonuses to damage and durability but mostly all it is is a measure of what type of NPC you can expect to take on. In Player Vs. Player CL makes less of an impact than what skills you have. As it always has.
Well I get it from the fact that I was a Master Pistoleer, BH 333x, and some carb or med, I don't remember, but I killed jedi no problem. After the CU, I was a 72, and couldn't do any damage at all. Oh, and here is a quote from you from the thread on this forum titled "PvP in SWG":
Um Erillion that's not really true. For One on One PVP it's good to have 2.5 elites. I only have 2 elites and one box of pistoleer. The rest is in novice medic for self healing. I do very well in PVP duels AND in PVP group combat.
But, yes, it's a good idea to be CL80... any mix of skills that gets you there is fine for Dueling.
You go on to mention that you can be lower in group combat, but as a BH hunting Jedi, that means nothing to me. So there ya go contradicting yourself.
Errr... where'd you dig up this little gem? I have yet to see a "hard cap" on how much damage a weapon can do. They still vary a lot on output and the very best weapons are still extremely expensive. Crafting really hasn't changed at all. Armor is NOT useless now.... lol I dare you to go hunting without armor. Uber weapons weren't nerfed, weapons were changed quite a bit but there are still plenty of "uber" weapons out there. Some didn't translate well through the CU I'll grant you (My Krayted Scatter really got wacked but my Laser Rifle turned into a god weapon
.Haven't stumbled across a "broken" class yet. Doctors have the most right to complain about their class because it was changed at a fundamental level but it's still a viable and valued profession. Not broken, just radically changed which peeved a lot of players (rightfully so in some ways).
Where did I get this little gem you ask? How about the SWG Weaponsmith forum, from the thread titled "Reference for Weapon Caps":
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=weaponsmith&message.id=80981
And you haven't stumbled on a broken class huh Elnator? To quote you once again from a thread on this forum titled "Seriously, What has changed?"
I would go so far to say that Commando is pretty broken right now and TKA got powered down because they were so overpowered before the CU...
The orange just points out your contradictions, I'll stop at 2 for now cuz it's late. And let's take a look again at that SWG forum on the latest hot fix discussion thread, look it up yourself if you want:
You promised us Crafters before the Combat Upgrade that we would get our Upgrade after the CU, we haven't gotten it. Our professions have been constantly broken worse and worse with each patch since your CU. Don't you think its time to pay attention to other aspects of the game?
Can still do that. You may need to go make new ones though. I love my 1200 damage rifle for hunting Jedi.
Whatever, refer to the weapon caps link...and that rifle does a lot for a pistoleer, the new "crowd controlling" profession.
I tried to post this a minute ago and lost it all somehow, and I had more to say, but screw it, this is enough. Get off your high horse, know it all. Go contradict yourself some more...
I love how people take a couple posts out of context.
For DUELING you should have 2.5 elites (CL80) or whatever because it gives you the slight damage modifiers etc. A DUEL is not the same as hunting a Jedi.
For Killing JEDI you need:
Healing
Good Specials
Anti-KD foods
Action and Health Regen Food/Drink
Some folks swear by spices but I don't use them.
and Good Range so you can stay out of the 32m range of Sabre throw.
But, most importantly, you need to use tactics, patience and guile. You don't take on FRS Knights by running up and yanking on your trigger as fast as you can.
You do NOT need to be CL80, some of the best Bounty Hunters are around CL 74-76.
I'm sorry, at CL72 you couldn't do "any" damage to a Jedi? Why not? At CL 75 before I re-worked my template a bit I was taking on Jedi no problem. You aren't going to go toe-to-toe with a Knight. I don't care WHAT CL you are. They will eat you. A BH against a Knight you need to do more than run up and start spamming KD and Eyeshot at them. You need to have a plan, tactics, skill and, most of all, guile and patience. You have to get the drop on them and work against their weaknesses. Run them out of force power or you WILL die, regardless of your template, abilities or skill.
And, like I said, Commando is sort of broken, it's the only class that I'll agree is really broken at all and ONLY Because it doesn't have special attacks of it's own. However, those who have Commando/Pistoleer or Commando/Smuggler are the best crowd control people around. Nothing like an AOE Concussion shot to get things back under control when things are getting crazy on you.
Yes, the game has bugs, every game has bugs.
But the number of bugs goes down with every hotfix. The number of broken missions has gone down too and the game is doing just fine. By the way most of the bugged missions are from ROTW which was a rushed expansion like we have all stated multiple times because they wanted to have it out in time for EPIII. Matter of fact most of the bugs are a direct result of the rushing of the CU and ROTW. Prior to CU the game was relatively bug free for the most part.
You can keep blasting it all you want and you can continue to try to convince people not to try it but the fact is the game is better today than it was last week. And it was better last week than the week before. And it's far better now than it was Pre-CU.
I understand you don't like the CU, that's fine. So don't play.
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LOL, out of context? they are direct quotes where you contradict yourself. For some reason, you defend the game like it's your girlfriend or something. Anything anyone says, you have a "defense" on that complaint. Even if it means contradicting yourself. You love it, that's fantastic. Stop acting like a know it all p#!ck. No game has this many bugs. The reason is that it's simply not ready to be released. You are paying $15 a month for an open beta. If you find it worth that 15 bucks, than great. I'm not trying to get anyone NOT to play it. I'm just saying that when you do, you're playing an open beta for $15 a month. The SWG forums will tell you everything you need to know. So many people complaining about bugs and broken professions.
You've lost all credibility with your contradicting statements. If anyone listens to you today, they will see another post tomorrow where you say something different. "I've yet to see a broken profession" "I'd say commando is pretty broken right now"
later bro, i'm done wasting my time with you
I'm not acting like a know it all I'm simply answering questions with what answers I have. You call it contradicting I prefer to admit when I'm wrong and clarify when I'm unclear. You can label it how you will.
Yes, the Commando class has issues and I would label it 'broken'. At the time that I said it didn't have any broken classes I was unaware that commando had no specials at this time. So I have revised my statement and admit that Commando is broken.
As to the Combat Level issue you seem confused. DUELING is not the same as hunting Jedi. Go read the BH forums. Many Bounty Hunters that do just fine are around CL76. The game has SOME bugs. ALL games have some bugs. Go read any games forums and you will find that they ALL have bugs or problems of some kind or another. I know because I've played almost every single one of them.
For *ME* SWG is the best game out right now. I enjoy it. You don't. That's great. I'm not trying to convince you that you will like it but you come here trying to make it sound like the game has "so many bugs" that it's "unplayable" which is patently untrue. You try to make it sound like multiple classes are so broken that they're unplayable. Which is also patently untrue. Sure Commando may not have it's own skills right now but it's FAR from unplayable. When combined with other professions it is VERY powerful indeed.... but you're absolutely right a Commando (with no other combat profs) would not be a good choice to play whereas you could conceivably choose to go Pistoleer with no other combat profs and do fine. So, yes, the profession is broken but it's hardly "unplayable".
And, actually, since I have the SOE all Access Pass and I play PlanetSide, SWG and EQ2 from time to time I think of it more like $7.30 a month per game. And, yes, it's certainly worth the fee to me.
As I said, the statement "I've yet to see a broken profession" was made before I found out that Commando has no specials. Before the CU it DID have it's own specials. I hadn't tried Commando at the time and I have since making that statement. Thus I revised my statement when someone discussed it. Or would you rather I go back to all my old posts and edit them anytime something new comes to light rather than just making a new post? Get a grip.
Gee, go figure, I changed my opinion when details came to light that I was unaware of. I'm able to change my point of view... are you?
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Commando was one of the most anticipated prof's with the release of the CU, so if it took you this long to figure out it's broke, then how can you even speak of a crafting prof, or even any other less desirable combat prof?
You were outright wrong about the caps on weapons, as I showed you in that post from the Weaponsmith forums, and I'm pretty sure you're wrong about no other prof's being broke.
Again, I'll give you a little clip of the latest in the SWG Forums:
FIX TAILOR AND ARMORSMITH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!! You broke em 2 publishes ago where is the fix........this is seriously a really bad sign of things to come.
That took me a grand total of a minute to find. I'm sure if i dedicated a little more time, I could find more prof's broken.
Anyone can find a post griping about anything on the official forums. What is supposedly broken? I'll ask the guild armorsmith next time I see him if he feels broken. Not sure what's wrong with the class, he made me a full set of assault armor 2 days ago.
Unless he's mad that it's harder now to find cores because it's harder to kill the creatures that drop them? That I can agree with but that's a spawn/drop issue, not a profession bug.
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Well if you think about it, lvls have basically always existed, just not visibly. Not to mention that your character's individuality was more based on the way you act and what you do. If you were in a buff line you'd just see a bunch of master titles and full composit ....... on everyone. My point is that you're going to be equal to others no matter what because otherwise it's not fair.
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Taram doesn't have an in-character wife, does he....
LOL! Noobia's husband got a cybernetic arm and she kicked him out of bed till he got his real arm back... and that was just an arm. I've seen the legs. The revulsion goes way farther than aesthetics in an RP sense.
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I hope so. I got sick of the Blizzard Fan boys and 12 year olds ruining the community with their constant immaturity and whining. And me and my brother both found that the game economy and crafting system was a little bit too simple. I got sick of doing the same old quests over and over - "Kill 10 and these and 15 of these".
I'm coming from WoW to SWG, got SWG on it's way... but I'm not sure if I'm quitting WoW quite yet.
The problem I have with WoW is that it went too quick, got to 60... got to 60 again. Now what? I mean, there is nothing to do. The ONLY reason I wouldn't quit is the community.
Well Wow is not doing bad at all (2mil subscribers ) ...but look at all mmos ...at release loads of ppl buy them and some of them leave ..... so the comunity of wow is getting "filtered" ... and only the ppl who realy like the game how it is <> will stay .
I also want to try SWG again after all this time . i believe it changed a lot since release ...
How far did you get into WoW?
Got 3 chars to 40
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No, I'm married in RL, I don't date in-game
Though SWG does have some seriously cute women folk that are fun to look at 
Hehe didn't really think much about the 'consequences' those legs cary with them though 
LOL I'll have to share this one with my wife, she'll get a kick out of that.
Now that I think about it though it explains why Grievous was such a jack*ss in EPIII
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Try getting a char to 60, once you do that I guarntee you'll be bored shortly after.
Taram doesn't have an in-character wife, does he....
LOL! Noobia's husband got a cybernetic arm and she kicked him out of bed till he got his real arm back... and that was just an arm. I've seen the legs. The revulsion goes way farther than aesthetics in an RP sense.
No, I'm married in RL, I don't date in-game
Though SWG does have some seriously cute women folk that are fun to look at 
Hehe didn't really think much about the 'consequences' those legs cary with them though 
LOL I'll have to share this one with my wife, she'll get a kick out of that.
Now that I think about it though it explains why Grievous was such a jack*ss in EPIII
Heheheh! I knew it. It's a woman thing, it really is. And people say men are bad with the filthymindedness. Consequences... I love how you put that.
I really can't stand how they made the cyber arms and legs look. IMO it's not very Star Wars and it doesn't show any real care or work on the part of the concept designers. They're so aestheticly awful that when I was master rifle I wouldn't wear one even for PvP. My PA offered me one when we did Necrosis and I wouldn't take it. They're just that hideous -- even the "really good ones".
But there's a lot that came with Kashyyk that I'm not terribly fond of, especially the setup of the planet itself. It looks very much like I'm a minority in this though. I haven't heard many people complain about it at any rate and far too many of my friends practically live there, which speaks volumes about its success with the average player. Selfishly, I find myself wishing that they hadn't put the neatest cheesy loot (animal head trophies, wookie totems, ceremonial chairs and all that fun, dorky house decor) on Kashyyk, where it is beyond my reach (because the trip to Kashyyk is almost garaunteed to set me up for one of my horrendous migraines when combined with the particle effects that STILL happen even when I turn them off from my attacks). Fortunately for me, my PA is wonderful and thoughtful, and will often bring home little toys for me (still deeply touched by the pair of little Voodoo Dolls that Szora got me) but it hurts my female pride to know that I can't reasonably get them myself.
Heh, I have such a love/hate relationship with this stupid game....
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Well when i`l ding 60 in wow with 1 char ..i'l get teh uber gear then start another one ..I have no intention of leaving since i met a lot of nice ppl ingame ... Got Swg today ..but i didn't read that if you add ur key to ur old account you loose the fr33 30 days..well now im stuck with the game and without a working account
) uhm mebe ur wandering im damn stupid ..well its true ...i`l try to get some moneys for it soon ... so i played the game for 5 days close after release ... cought borring and buggy cought ... So now the hype is back as it once was 
.On what Euro server should i play ^^ ??
cant say how its doing now, but I cancelled all 3 of my accounts . While I wish them well, I doubt I will ever return. I didnt really like the CU and feel it was rushed and they didnt bother listening to any input from the commmunity.
Plus I threw my disks away and uninstalled SWG from my computer, got that fed up. I dont plan on playing any SOE game anymore. I quit EQ2 and uninstalled it and threw away the disks as well.
For those that like the new SWG , I am happy for you. For those who dislike the CU , I am with you on it.