Originally posted by Sharkypal there is no MMO that I have ever played that is a as bug ridden as SWG that I have played in any case (and I've played most of them). There is no MMO where professions drastically change every week to placate whiners.
Two words : Anarchy Online.
Have fun Erillion
As a longtime player of Anarchy Online (almost 4 years when I'd finally had enough), I have to agree with Erillion's assessment. The game still has some of the bugs that were with it since launch and they introduce new ones all the time. Critical changes to professions happen often, almost always driven by the whining of idiots in other professions and almost always of the nerf category. They nerfed agent and nanotechnician so severely that only the masochists play them past level 50 (220 levels).
In addition, AO is a mega-camp-fest. You MUST have specific items to compete in any given profession and these items are almost unilaterally dropped by static bosses that are more or less owned by a small handfull of uberguilds, who farm them to sell at outrageous prices. Loot tables are often bolloxed during patches, making this situation even more difficult for the novice or casual player.
Dungeons that contain useful loot are overcrowded and laggier than Mos Eisley on a weekend afternoon. Add to this the fact that players are in the habit of "training" (getting agro from a mob, then running to another player to switch agro to that player, which is often fatal to the unlucky other), killstealing and ninja looting, the game experience in Anarchy Online isn't very enjoyable anymore.
SWG isn't bug free. Nowhere close to it. It irks the living hell out of me about the amount and the severity of the bugs that SWG's devs allow into live publishes. But Anarchy Online is definately a longrunning example of how it could be worse and still manage to be successful. But then again... FunCom gives the basic game away for free now, which is something the folks at SOE/LA will never consider doing.
Yeah, Sharkey, no matter how bad we think it is in SWG... well... let's face it, there's always just-as-bad and even-worse out there. *SIGH* The market is just sucking right now. What are we MMORPGers to do? We're faced with the choice of deciding what is, for us, the lesser of proffered evils or *GASP!* <horrors> not playing an MMORPG style game.
Sometimes it makes me feel cheap and used, at which point I tend to post a scathing rant protesting my aggrivation-du-jour then turn of my machine and go read something suitably depressing and shocking while my husband tries to make me watch "Pimp My Ride" on TiVo. That tends to unruffle my feathers and bring me back to my normal state of judgemental, if vaguely friendly bitchiness. When that doesn't work, I just molestor the husband for a while, then come back and play some more. After all, I'm a woman, and that means I prefer a real screw to being virtaully bent over any day.
Well, you guys sold me... I went out and bought SWG Total Experience. Any ideas on a good populated server that I can start in? BTW I've reading a lot about the cu, and it seems that a lot has been changed.
I have played SWG a couple of times.... In the beginning for six or seven months and after the JTL expansion came out....I still think its as good as any MMO on the market, but i dont know how much that statement even means anymore.... As mostly a crafter i have seen the bugs, especially early on... NOTHING LIKE CRIT FAILING ON A GUILD HALL !!...... Overall, i really enjoyed my experience until one day........
I was approached by another player and he said he would give me a couple hundred thousand to create a char on another server and help him out... curiously, i went along and when i made my crafting char he gave me ten heavy harvs and had me put them out and them give him permissions to them... he said thanx, we went back to my server and he paid me the remaining half of the money... Thats when i realized what was going on.. he said he had over 150 harvs in his possession on the other server.. in my name, of course, but he had rights to them... thats how those guys make a killing in the game.. I wondered for a long time how so many players could have so much money, and there it was... been kinda jaded about SWG ever since...But i guess its like a lot of other MMO's....
I do like the idea of having a EVE type space game along with the ground game in SWG.. that would be sweet...
Originally posted by haxxjoo The core of the game is the actually war between the alliance and the imperials is totally devoid from swg with the exception of 1 theme park to partake in. The wookie expansion added some missions but again leaves you feeling you didn't really accomplish much. The cu added a few guns. I check the swg forums regularly and see a total lack of posting on a daily basis. Of course you can just look at the pretty stagnet post totals on each board to sumize this fact. When will battlefields and story arcs be back in?
1) rebels and imps now fight for control over planets and cities with noticable changes to the planet NPC cities....
2) RotW added MANY MANY missions/quests and they dont leave u feeling unaccomplished there are TONS of great rewards (cybernetic arms/legs that boost skills, Clone armor, New Starfighters, New weapons, new furniture, ect ect ect.....)
3) the CU added new weapons AND changed the way the entire game is played after some of the bugs r out it will be a good change but even now its good just takes time to get used to...
4) ppl post all the time and if u actually did go to the forums and read anything u would know that RotW is more than just "a few missions" and that the rewards r really great
5) the battlefields r going bye bye but there is a story arc going on right now if u would read on the site u would know about it (i think its called "Secrets of the Syren" or something like that)
dont start talking bad about a game unless u really know whats going on and what is changing and JTL can be used as more content because they added space mining, new ships, new missions, a space station (avatar platform) where u and a group go and kill HIGH lvl npc trando's to get loot/missions ect..... so they continue to add more and more content to JTL, RotW, and even new missions/quests for ppl that dont own the expansion
I've been wondering how SWG is doing also. I played on Ahazi back in the day. The game did have more staying power than I would have thought. I'm playing wow along with all the other kiddies, I'm 26, and its getting old fast. I think I might go out tommorrow and pickup SWG again.
Is there a way of checking server pop online? I'd like to make sure I pick a well populated one.
Yeah, I was a really big fanboy of SWG. Played for about a year and a half but then left to play WoW with my guild. Every MMORPG I've played since has only taken two months of my time or less, even though SWG looks bad it has alot of addicting playing qualities. I'm heading back to Bria next week when my EQII subscription ends.
2) RotW added MANY MANY missions/quests and they dont leave u feeling unaccomplished there are TONS of great rewards (cybernetic arms/legs that boost skills, Clone armor, New Starfighters, New weapons, new furniture, ect ect ect.....) 4) ppl post all the time and if u actually did go to the forums and read anything u would know that RotW is more than just "a few missions" and that the rewards r really great
RotW is immensely bugged, there are several game breaking bugs including the LOS bug that has killed me on the Shadowed Path on more than one occasion and the awesome Wroshyr "Fall into oblivion" bug. Quests? at least 50% are broken in some way, some worse than others. This falls back to my original posts, yes all MMOs have bugs, but purely talking about RotW, there is nothing that I have ever seen in any MMO that is as bad.
Originally posted by Nafunieru Well, you guys sold me... I went out and bought SWG Total Experience. Any ideas on a good populated server that I can start in? BTW I've reading a lot about the cu, and it seems that a lot has been changed.
I'm still waiting on mine to come... probably shouldn't of got it online
Either way, when you decide on a server, let me know. I'd like to have someone to level with / learn the game with :P
i have a little question ...i'm about to go buy the total experience pack but need to know something ... if i buy it and register it .. do i need to use a credit card? i am planning to play the free month and then work with the gamecards ..i hope you guyz can help me !!!
Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by ElnatorOriginally posted by haxxjooSWG forums are not healthy. Post levels are at an all time low.Interest in the game is low as far as I can tell. I do not know a single swg player out here n the real world. Saying the swg devs are doing good work? Are you a raging maschist? These guys communication and development skills are the worst I have ever seen. Blizzard mass exodus? There numbers are up not down.Someone needs to like stop the swg love fest and get these folks back to reality. Is there any plan to release some content for swg? Guild wars is the cats meow. The swg crafting experience never was for me. To much pointless work. Oh lordHaxx do you just make this up as you go? Everytime I see you post negatively about SWG you use different information that contradicts everything else available out there: Content? Go read the official site you goof. There has been ALL KINDS of content added to the game. Not even counting the expansions there was tons of content added. Not to mention the whole entire rage of the wookies expansion itself and JTL last year. And now they're working on adding in capitol ship adventures like the Avatar Space Platform. Not too long ago I posted a list of what's been added. I think it was something like 30 or 40 lines long in the past 15 months. Crafting system? So what if you don't like crafting. Considering Guild Wars has NO crafting obviously you just don't like crafting, period. I don't much care for it either but others do. And SWG has a fantastic crafting and player merchant system that is unparallelled thus far. Also, if interest in the game is so low then please explain why it's listed as a best seller at every online gaming site? And every retail gaming site? Oh... and the fact that server populations are at all time highs? It's ok, we know you don't like SWG... every time you post here you just make up something new to try to back up your claim that the game is dying. I guess it pumps up your ego or something. No offense guy, but as much as you accuse everyone of being anti-SWG, you are the complete opposite. Your total refusal to accept the fact that the game is buggy and incomplete, plagued by bad dev-community relations, and has major profession changes pretty much every week are a testament to your blind allegiance to SWG. Server populations are up, WHY? Because there is an influx of people because of the film. These people all think they are going to be a Jedi in 2 weeks, this population "explosion" will be very short lived. SWG is, as much as you may not want to accept it, on a doomed path. It will not die tomorrow but I wouldn't give it more than a year before you see server consolidation. How the hell can you invest time and money to reach a certain level/profession and then have the template you learned totally changed because of whiners who can't deal with the complexity of the game. I will agree with you that this game WAS great. At one point it was the best and most unique MMO out there. Today, it is a sad shadow of its former self. Destroyed by inept developers who don't have a F**king clue. There insistence on pushing out flawed, incomplete patches and retail addons will bury the game. I know the players will try to live with it, I did for 2 years plus but at the rate things are going now, even the most stubborn SOE/SWG apologists will eventually jump ship! Cheers S
You need to buy a clue. El has often spoke about the problems and bugs with the game. He isn't hiding anything. I suggest you go do some reading, THEN try to say something accurate.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Wheezal Originally posted by Sharkypal Server populations are up, WHY? Because there is an influx of people because of the film. These people all think they are going to be a Jedi in 2 weeks, this population "explosion" will be very short lived. SWG is, as much as you may not want to accept it, on a doomed path. It will not die tomorrow but I wouldn't give it more than a year before you see server consolidation.
wow..i remember when people were saying that about EQ 6 years ago....5 years ago...4 years ago...3 years ago... they also said it about UO, AC, AC2, DAoC...every one of them has been wrong. and still people don't learn. as long as a game is profitable (which it only needa bout 80,000 players or so to be), it will get support from it's producers. SWG is over 250k players, more then enough to warrant continued development and support from SOE for some time to come.
Very true Wheezal. I have listened to people talk about a game dieing in about every game I have ever played. And all are still going strong now, regardless of what brainiac has predicted its demise.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Sharkypal Nah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG. Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. S
We are!
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Sharkypal Nah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG. Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. S
Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by SharkypalNah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG.Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. SWe are! Roflmao, apologists make me laugh. Cheers for your entirely useless post! S
Apologists?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by SharkypalNah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG.Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. S
We are!
Roflmao, apologists make me laugh. Cheers for your entirely useless post! S
Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by SharkypalOriginally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by SharkypalNah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG.Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. SWe are! Roflmao, apologists make me laugh. Cheers for your entirely useless post!SApologists? /me hands Fadeus dictionary! S
You really need to get a clue...
a·pol·o·gist n. A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.
Exactly WHERE did I do this in my simple statement? And speaking of useless posts, you got about 25 of them this far.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by SharkypalNah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG.Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. S We are! Roflmao, apologists make me laugh. Cheers for your entirely useless post!S
Apologists?
/me hands Fadeus dictionary! S
You really need to get a clue...
a·pol·o·gist n. A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.
Exactly WHERE did I do this in my simple statement? And speaking of useless posts, you got about 25 of them this far.
I am so sick of you idiots (you know who you are) I will make this my last post in this thread. Your blatant stupidity when it comes to this game is really irreconcilable. I think the game is buggy and flawed, more so than other MMOs. That's a fact! FACT! Can you HEAR! The fact that you enjoy it and still play it has nothing to do with that fact. To come here and argue that the game is not buggy and flawed, is a contradiction of fact. Please learn the difference. I have been polite and accommodating to anyone who has made any kind of intelligent post in this thread. I was only ever rude in RESPONSE to rudeness directed at me!
You're missing the point: Yes, the game has bugs (they all do). I'll even grant that the ROTW expansion added a lot of fun new bugs to deal with. Many of which have already been fixed and, for once, SOE has been very agressive about stomping them quickly.
BUT Despite the bugs and the Jedi the game is STILL the best MMO available (in our opinion) and you can rant and rave about it all you want but the bottom line is this:
The question was: How is SWG doing?
The answer is: It is doing fine Population is up. The game is more fun than ever. And we're enjoying the new changes for the most part.
All this despite naysayers who obviously are jaded or hate the game for whatever reason. You can name any MMO on the market and it will have it's fans and it's detractors. Learn to accept that and you'll be a much happier person.
To the folks looking for a server to return to I highly recommend Lowca or Naritus. Both servers have multiple players that post on this site. My guild on Lowca has at least 10 folks who read and/or post on these boards and I have no idea how many folks that Fadeus, Noobia and Erillion have recruited from here to Naritus but they've been at it for a while so I suspect there are a lot
As to server pops? They're all pretty populated now. There are no 'empty' servers anymore. I'd recommend staying away from bria and Ahazi unless you're returning to a well established toon though... they're downright overcrowded.
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Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by SharkypalOriginally posted by FadeusOriginally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by SharkypalNah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG.Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. S We are! Roflmao, apologists make me laugh. Cheers for your entirely useless post!SApologists? /me hands Fadeus dictionary!SYou really need to get a clue... a·pol·o·gistn.A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution. Exactly WHERE did I do this in my simple statement? And speaking of useless posts, you got about 25 of them this far. I am so sick of you idiots (you know who you are) I will make this my last post in this thread. Your blatant stupidity when it comes to this game is really irreconcilable. I think the game is buggy and flawed, more so than other MMOs. That's a fact! FACT! Can you HEAR! The fact that you enjoy it and still play it has nothing to do with that fact. To come here and argue that the game is not buggy and flawed, is a contradiction of fact. Please learn the difference. I have been polite and accommodating to anyone who has made any kind of intelligent post in this thread. I was only ever rude in RESPONSE to rudeness directed at me! S
Oh ya, thats a real good way to weasle out of explaining your WRONG statement towards my post. Can't explain yourself so you go off on a rant calling everyone idiots now. And I would suggest you stop mixing fact with your opinion.
No one has said the game isn't buggy and doesn't have flawed. HOWEVER FACT is that you look like a raving lunatic atm hell bent on convinving people the VIDEO games they play don't meet your approval so they shouldn't play them. And thats the ONLY thing you have managed to get across with your rantings and lacking posts.
SWG has a ton of flaws, I deal with them constantly. The quality standards are far from the best in the industustry but your level of ranting and lunacity over it is completely out of line. I enjoy the game, many people do, as a matter of fact, enough to continue to make the game profitable which gives it longevity. And that is how capitalism works, people like it, they continue to pay for it. When Lucas Arts and SOE no longer gear their products to appeal to the consumer then the consumer stops paying and then the company corrects the issue or tanks the product. At the moment the get my money, I am happy with their products and I feel I am getting a magnificent deal via Station All Access Pass, deal with it.
When you starting throwing out some intelligent arguement you will probably get alot more respect. However when you sit and accuse people of idiocy and stupidity and then whine about people being mean to you you will generally NOT get treated with a whole lot of respect.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Originally posted by Elnator Sharky, You're missing the point:
---> exactly The question was: How is SWG doing? The answer is: It is doing fine Population is up. The game is more fun than ever. And we're enjoying the new changes for the most part. --> Amen. I concur. --> Pretty much sums up my point of view too ! --> Have fun, Erillion
Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by Sharkypal Originally posted by Fadeus Originally posted by SharkypalNah, not as bad as SWG now. AO was VERY bad when it was released and even for the first year, but 2 years after release it was not getting worse a la SWG.Anyways, enough of this. Go play your ub3r game. S We are! Roflmao, apologists make me laugh. Cheers for your entirely useless post!S Apologists? /me hands Fadeus dictionary!S
You really need to get a clue... a·pol·o·gistn.A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution. Exactly WHERE did I do this in my simple statement? And speaking of useless posts, you got about 25 of them this far.
I am so sick of you idiots (you know who you are) I will make this my last post in this thread. Your blatant stupidity when it comes to this game is really irreconcilable. I think the game is buggy and flawed, more so than other MMOs. That's a fact! FACT! Can you HEAR! The fact that you enjoy it and still play it has nothing to do with that fact. To come here and argue that the game is not buggy and flawed, is a contradiction of fact. Please learn the difference. I have been polite and accommodating to anyone who has made any kind of intelligent post in this thread. I was only ever rude in RESPONSE to rudeness directed at me! S
Oh ya, thats a real good way to weasle out of explaining your WRONG statement towards my post. Can't explain yourself so you go off on a rant calling everyone idiots now. And I would suggest you stop mixing fact with your opinion.
No one has said the game isn't buggy and doesn't have flawed. HOWEVER FACT is that you look like a raving lunatic atm hell bent on convinving people the VIDEO games they play don't meet your approval so they shouldn't play them. And thats the ONLY thing you have managed to get across with your rantings and lacking posts.
SWG has a ton of flaws, I deal with them constantly. The quality standards are far from the best in the industustry but your level of ranting and lunacity over it is completely out of line. I enjoy the game, many people do, as a matter of fact, enough to continue to make the game profitable which gives it longevity. And that is how capitalism works, people like it, they continue to pay for it. When Lucas Arts and SOE no longer gear their products to appeal to the consumer then the consumer stops paying and then the company corrects the issue or tanks the product. At the moment the get my money, I am happy with their products and I feel I am getting a magnificent deal via Station All Access Pass, deal with it.
When you starting throwing out some intelligent arguement you will probably get alot more respect. However when you sit and accuse people of idiocy and stupidity and then whine about people being mean to you you will generally NOT get treated with a whole lot of respect.
Actually, no I'm not a raving lunatic. I am a disgruntled consumer who feels ripped off by Lucasarts/SOE with regards to SWG. It gets my blood pressure up when people try to defend against the fact that it is buggy and flawed. If you like it and enjoy playing it, more power to you. That is not where my gripe lies.
If you want to compare it to EQ2, a game from the same company (I will concede newer with a far better dev team - a lot of the old SWG dev team as a matter of fact) I have been playing it since launch, I have 3 level 50 t00ns and a 31 Warlock that I play now. Compared to SWG, it is virtually bug free. There are bugs mind you, but I don't think I have ever seen anything critical like LOS for example.
If I appeared a little harsh, I apologize, it was not my intention. I played SWG for 2+ years and I had good times and bad. The constant prof changing and respeccing were the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I could have lived with the CU, but not with the prof changing/nerfing that is almost weekly now. If you can deal with that, good for you.
S
PS : I know I said my previous post was my last, but I thought I would finish on a more balanced note!
It is doing fine - Your opinion with no basis in fact Population is up - Only because of the film, talk to me again in 3 - 6 months The game is more fun than ever - Yes, for some people I have no doubt it is
I haven't played a game that doesn't have it's slew of bugs, jeebus does WoW have it's share. Further I would highly doubt that SWG has more bugs then the average. If you're going to claim that as fact, then I'd love to see some data behind that statement.
SWG seems to be weathering the competition nicely. I've said in the past, SOE needed some decent competition.
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As a longtime player of Anarchy Online (almost 4 years when I'd finally had enough), I have to agree with Erillion's assessment. The game still has some of the bugs that were with it since launch and they introduce new ones all the time. Critical changes to professions happen often, almost always driven by the whining of idiots in other professions and almost always of the nerf category. They nerfed agent and nanotechnician so severely that only the masochists play them past level 50 (220 levels).
In addition, AO is a mega-camp-fest. You MUST have specific items to compete in any given profession and these items are almost unilaterally dropped by static bosses that are more or less owned by a small handfull of uberguilds, who farm them to sell at outrageous prices. Loot tables are often bolloxed during patches, making this situation even more difficult for the novice or casual player.
Dungeons that contain useful loot are overcrowded and laggier than Mos Eisley on a weekend afternoon. Add to this the fact that players are in the habit of "training" (getting agro from a mob, then running to another player to switch agro to that player, which is often fatal to the unlucky other), killstealing and ninja looting, the game experience in Anarchy Online isn't very enjoyable anymore.
SWG isn't bug free. Nowhere close to it. It irks the living hell out of me about the amount and the severity of the bugs that SWG's devs allow into live publishes. But Anarchy Online is definately a longrunning example of how it could be worse and still manage to be successful. But then again... FunCom gives the basic game away for free now, which is something the folks at SOE/LA will never consider doing.
Well written and well thought out post!
Cheers
S
Yeah, Sharkey, no matter how bad we think it is in SWG... well... let's face it, there's always just-as-bad and even-worse out there. *SIGH* The market is just sucking right now. What are we MMORPGers to do? We're faced with the choice of deciding what is, for us, the lesser of proffered evils or *GASP!* <horrors> not playing an MMORPG style game.
Sometimes it makes me feel cheap and used, at which point I tend to post a scathing rant protesting my aggrivation-du-jour then turn of my machine and go read something suitably depressing and shocking while my husband tries to make me watch "Pimp My Ride" on TiVo. That tends to unruffle my feathers and bring me back to my normal state of judgemental, if vaguely friendly bitchiness. When that doesn't work, I just molestor the husband for a while, then come back and play some more. After all, I'm a woman, and that means I prefer a real screw to being virtaully bent over any day.
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I have played SWG a couple of times.... In the beginning for six or seven months and after the JTL expansion came out....I still think its as good as any MMO on the market, but i dont know how much that statement even means anymore.... As mostly a crafter i have seen the bugs, especially early on... NOTHING LIKE CRIT FAILING ON A GUILD HALL !!...... Overall, i really enjoyed my experience until one day........
I was approached by another player and he said he would give me a couple hundred thousand to create a char on another server and help him out... curiously, i went along and when i made my crafting char he gave me ten heavy harvs and had me put them out and them give him permissions to them... he said thanx, we went back to my server and he paid me the remaining half of the money... Thats when i realized what was going on.. he said he had over 150 harvs in his possession on the other server.. in my name, of course, but he had rights to them... thats how those guys make a killing in the game.. I wondered for a long time how so many players could have so much money, and there it was... been kinda jaded about SWG ever since...But i guess its like a lot of other MMO's....
I do like the idea of having a EVE type space game along with the ground game in SWG.. that would be sweet...
1) rebels and imps now fight for control over planets and cities with noticable changes to the planet NPC cities....
2) RotW added MANY MANY missions/quests and they dont leave u feeling unaccomplished there are TONS of great rewards (cybernetic arms/legs that boost skills, Clone armor, New Starfighters, New weapons, new furniture, ect ect ect.....)
3) the CU added new weapons AND changed the way the entire game is played after some of the bugs r out it will be a good change but even now its good just takes time to get used to...
4) ppl post all the time and if u actually did go to the forums and read anything u would know that RotW is more than just "a few missions" and that the rewards r really great
5) the battlefields r going bye bye but there is a story arc going on right now if u would read on the site u would know about it (i think its called "Secrets of the Syren" or something like that)
dont start talking bad about a game unless u really know whats going on and what is changing and JTL can be used as more content because they added space mining, new ships, new missions, a space station (avatar platform) where u and a group go and kill HIGH lvl npc trando's to get loot/missions ect..... so they continue to add more and more content to JTL, RotW, and even new missions/quests for ppl that dont own the expansion
I've been wondering how SWG is doing also. I played on Ahazi back in the day. The game did have more staying power than I would have thought. I'm playing wow along with all the other kiddies, I'm 26, and its getting old fast. I think I might go out tommorrow and pickup SWG again.
Is there a way of checking server pop online? I'd like to make sure I pick a well populated one.
thanks
I'm still waiting on mine to come... probably shouldn't of got it online
Either way, when you decide on a server, let me know. I'd like to have someone to level with / learn the game with :P
i have a little question ...i'm about to go buy the total experience pack but need to know something ... if i buy it and register it .. do i need to use a credit card? i am planning to play the free month and then work with the gamecards ..i hope you guyz can help me !!!
You need to buy a clue. El has often spoke about the problems and bugs with the game. He isn't hiding anything. I suggest you go do some reading, THEN try to say something accurate.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
wow..i remember when people were saying that about EQ 6 years ago....5 years ago...4 years ago...3 years ago...
they also said it about UO, AC, AC2, DAoC...every one of them has been wrong. and still people don't learn.
as long as a game is profitable (which it only needa bout 80,000 players or so to be), it will get support from it's producers. SWG is over 250k players, more then enough to warrant continued development and support from SOE for some time to come.
Very true Wheezal. I have listened to people talk about a game dieing in about every game I have ever played. And all are still going strong now, regardless of what brainiac has predicted its demise.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
We are!
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
We are!
Roflmao, apologists make me laugh.
Cheers for your entirely useless post!
S
Apologists?
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Apologists?
/me hands Fadeus dictionary!
S
You really need to get a clue...
a·pol·o·gist
n.
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.
Exactly WHERE did I do this in my simple statement? And speaking of useless posts, you got about 25 of them this far.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
You really need to get a clue...
a·pol·o·gist
n.
A person who argues in defense or justification of something, such as a doctrine, policy, or institution.
Exactly WHERE did I do this in my simple statement? And speaking of useless posts, you got about 25 of them this far.
I am so sick of you idiots (you know who you are) I will make this my last post in this thread. Your blatant stupidity when it comes to this game is really irreconcilable. I think the game is buggy and flawed, more so than other MMOs. That's a fact! FACT! Can you HEAR! The fact that you enjoy it and still play it has nothing to do with that fact. To come here and argue that the game is not buggy and flawed, is a contradiction of fact. Please learn the difference. I have been polite and accommodating to anyone who has made any kind of intelligent post in this thread. I was only ever rude in RESPONSE to rudeness directed at me!
S
Sharky,
You're missing the point:
Yes, the game has bugs (they all do).
I'll even grant that the ROTW expansion added a lot of fun new bugs to deal with. Many of which have already been fixed and, for once, SOE has been very agressive about stomping them quickly.
BUT
Despite the bugs and the Jedi the game is STILL the best MMO available (in our opinion) and you can rant and rave about it all you want but the bottom line is this:
The question was:
How is SWG doing?
The answer is:
It is doing fine
Population is up.
The game is more fun than ever.
And we're enjoying the new changes for the most part.
All this despite naysayers who obviously are jaded or hate the game for whatever reason. You can name any MMO on the market and it will have it's fans and it's detractors. Learn to accept that and you'll be a much happier person.
To the folks looking for a server to return to I highly recommend Lowca or Naritus. Both servers have multiple players that post on this site. My guild on Lowca has at least 10 folks who read and/or post on these boards and I have no idea how many folks that Fadeus, Noobia and Erillion have recruited from here to Naritus but they've been at it for a while so I suspect there are a lot
As to server pops? They're all pretty populated now. There are no 'empty' servers anymore. I'd recommend staying away from bria and Ahazi unless you're returning to a well established toon though... they're downright overcrowded.
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Oh ya, thats a real good way to weasle out of explaining your WRONG statement towards my post. Can't explain yourself so you go off on a rant calling everyone idiots now. And I would suggest you stop mixing fact with your opinion.
No one has said the game isn't buggy and doesn't have flawed. HOWEVER FACT is that you look like a raving lunatic atm hell bent on convinving people the VIDEO games they play don't meet your approval so they shouldn't play them. And thats the ONLY thing you have managed to get across with your rantings and lacking posts.
SWG has a ton of flaws, I deal with them constantly. The quality standards are far from the best in the industustry but your level of ranting and lunacity over it is completely out of line. I enjoy the game, many people do, as a matter of fact, enough to continue to make the game profitable which gives it longevity. And that is how capitalism works, people like it, they continue to pay for it. When Lucas Arts and SOE no longer gear their products to appeal to the consumer then the consumer stops paying and then the company corrects the issue or tanks the product. At the moment the get my money, I am happy with their products and I feel I am getting a magnificent deal via Station All Access Pass, deal with it.
When you starting throwing out some intelligent arguement you will probably get alot more respect. However when you sit and accuse people of idiocy and stupidity and then whine about people being mean to you you will generally NOT get treated with a whole lot of respect.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Oh ya, thats a real good way to weasle out of explaining your WRONG statement towards my post. Can't explain yourself so you go off on a rant calling everyone idiots now. And I would suggest you stop mixing fact with your opinion.
No one has said the game isn't buggy and doesn't have flawed. HOWEVER FACT is that you look like a raving lunatic atm hell bent on convinving people the VIDEO games they play don't meet your approval so they shouldn't play them. And thats the ONLY thing you have managed to get across with your rantings and lacking posts.
SWG has a ton of flaws, I deal with them constantly. The quality standards are far from the best in the industustry but your level of ranting and lunacity over it is completely out of line. I enjoy the game, many people do, as a matter of fact, enough to continue to make the game profitable which gives it longevity. And that is how capitalism works, people like it, they continue to pay for it. When Lucas Arts and SOE no longer gear their products to appeal to the consumer then the consumer stops paying and then the company corrects the issue or tanks the product. At the moment the get my money, I am happy with their products and I feel I am getting a magnificent deal via Station All Access Pass, deal with it.
When you starting throwing out some intelligent arguement you will probably get alot more respect. However when you sit and accuse people of idiocy and stupidity and then whine about people being mean to you you will generally NOT get treated with a whole lot of respect.
Actually, no I'm not a raving lunatic. I am a disgruntled consumer who feels ripped off by Lucasarts/SOE with regards to SWG. It gets my blood pressure up when people try to defend against the fact that it is buggy and flawed. If you like it and enjoy playing it, more power to you. That is not where my gripe lies.
If you want to compare it to EQ2, a game from the same company (I will concede newer with a far better dev team - a lot of the old SWG dev team as a matter of fact) I have been playing it since launch, I have 3 level 50 t00ns and a 31 Warlock that I play now. Compared to SWG, it is virtually bug free. There are bugs mind you, but I don't think I have ever seen anything critical like LOS for example.
If I appeared a little harsh, I apologize, it was not my intention. I played SWG for 2+ years and I had good times and bad. The constant prof changing and respeccing were the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I could have lived with the CU, but not with the prof changing/nerfing that is almost weekly now. If you can deal with that, good for you.
S
PS : I know I said my previous post was my last, but I thought I would finish on a more balanced note!
It is doing fine - Your opinion with no basis in fact
Population is up - Only because of the film, talk to me again in 3 - 6 months
The game is more fun than ever - Yes, for some people I have no doubt it is
I haven't played a game that doesn't have it's slew of bugs, jeebus does WoW have it's share. Further I would highly doubt that SWG has more bugs then the average. If you're going to claim that as fact, then I'd love to see some data behind that statement.
SWG seems to be weathering the competition nicely. I've said in the past, SOE needed some decent competition.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.