2016 is here, and we’re ready to rock! We kicked off the month with a
series of summits in the UK and Los Angeles to prepare for the new
year. There’s still one more to go, an AI summit in Frankfurt happening
next week, but we’re ready to take on 2016! Now that our i’s are dotted
and our t’s crossed, we’re ready to continue getting some great content
out to the community. Specifically: going forward, you can expect to see
regular updates to the Star Citizen Alpha. We are shooting for one
significant patch each month. Expect to see this cycle repeated:
numerous PTU test patches followed by a live
release and then a lull as content for the next patch is prepared and
integrated. As I write this, the team is working on content for Alpha
2.2. Expect to hear more about this release very soon! Meanwhile, here
are the specifics of what each Star Citizen studio was working on in
January…
2016 is here, and we’re ready to rock! We kicked off the month with a
series of summits in the UK and Los Angeles to prepare for the new
year. There’s still one more to go, an AI summit in Frankfurt happening
next week, but we’re ready to take on 2016! Now that our i’s are dotted
and our t’s crossed, we’re ready to continue getting some great content
out to the community. Specifically: going forward, you can expect to see
regular updates to the Star Citizen Alpha. We are shooting for one
significant patch each month. Expect to see this cycle repeated:
numerous PTU test patches followed by a live
release and then a lull as content for the next patch is prepared and
integrated. As I write this, the team is working on content for Alpha
2.2. Expect to hear more about this release very soon! Meanwhile, here
are the specifics of what each Star Citizen studio was working on in
January…
This is how the monthly report starts.
Instead MrSnuffles posts this: After only 3 years working on the Alpha Concept (PU 2.0), marketing,
selling ships and decorating the offices around the world we have
entered the planning phase for 2016 in February of 2016. Some cynical
people might say, "it's a bit late to plan for 2016 when it is already
February", to them i say, "It's ONLY February, there is plenty of time
this year to finish the plan."
Notice how he uses quotes for the final phrases. Lies and misinformation at their finest.
He
knows that most haters will jump in and start spiting venom without
being bothered to read the lengthy and extremely detailed report
regarding all aspects of the game.
A report which details
exactly what each and every team is doing and will do in the next month.
Engineering, Tech Design, Art, Content and Production.
A report
which is light years away from the assumptions he tries to project.
Again, he knows that most haters will read his quotes and won't bother
to read what the people in question do tell us.
How many posters on this thread did actually read the report ?
Can the moderators please look into this thread ? It's still early in the US.
Thread title needs to be edited from [NEWS] to [SATIRE] or something to that effect
I thought it was pretty obvious. Guess I was wrong.
Yep same here, never took it serious, funny yes but not serious.
So it's obvious to everyone it's a troll thread and should be closed. Awesome.
I believe that it was a sly attempt to project negative and ofc untrue assumptions.
He puts a "NEWS" in front and then proceeds to quote stuff which is not in the report, fully aware that the hater squad will jump in with replies, like they did.
He knows that these people won't be bothered to read such a lengthy and detailed report.
The problem is the majority who post don't care about if it affects the industry or gamers or whoever, most care that at the end of the day they can say "I told you so". Few have even admitted they post to get a rise out of fans.
I think sharing you view and opinions on a project is great, but some of these guys are looking high and low for what ever they can find to prove their point and why they are right. They're doing it for their own needs not for the players, games or industry. This is probably my whole problem with these kind of threads.
Are you prepared to back that up with actual, valid data? Are you prepared to prove that assertion?
If not, then you're attempting to dismiss the criticisms of others through pure conjecture, simply because you don't like what they have to say. It's the typical "well I can't stop people from having opinions I don't like, so I'll poison the well so I can just dismiss them instead". It's an all-too-common tactic on forums, and it's extremely dishonest.
There's really nothing to look "high and low" for. All one has to do is follow the history of this project, with an objective, impartial eye and the obvious conclusion is that something very odd - whatever form it takes - is going on. The problem is, SC fans prove themselves, constantly, completely incapable of being impartial or objective, or even honest about what's going on with the project. They're too busy making excuses and throwing out wild, unsupported assertions (such as you did) to discredit anyone who dares to not drink the kool-aid.
For example.. Some months ago, I posted a completely neutral comment on YT about a certain project, by a certain person all SC fans are not fans of. It wasn't for the game, nor against it. Further, I didn't say a damn thing about SC, for or against. I simply pointed out corrections to some statements made by others about the development about that other project.
Still, for even posting a simple factual correction, I incurred the wrath of SC/CR fans, whom - over the course of several months - continued to respond to that post, laying into me, accusing me of *being* that other person under a sock account. I wasn't bashing that other person or their project, so in their minds, surely I must be them posting under a sock account. I posted a reply to clarify that I'm *not* that other person, and they called me a liar, and claimed I (he) was trying to hide from them. Seriously.
I finally just "unsubbed" from that post, because it was freaking stupid. Seriously, this is how you people come across. You are *so* obsessed, and *so* far up CR's you-know-what about SC, that *anything* that's not 100% pro SC, or anti-that-other-guy is attacked, and the poster deemed an enemy.
This is why people describe CR/SC fans as cultists... because it's exactly the way some of you behave. Some of the folks backing SC really need to take a step back, get some self-awareness and take a good look at the way they behave. It's pretty damn creepy in many cases.
I am so glad so many people are salty over this game so that I am almost guaranteed to get something to chuckle at whenever I visit this site.
You guys are my e-heroes.
I don't know if these people are salty. That would imply they have some sort of investment in the game and are angry. I doubt that is true.
I think they are just having fun dragging down a great developer like Chris Roberts and a great game like Star Citizen because they don't have the money to buy cool spaceships.
That's a mighty fine collection of pictures you have, there.
The investment that both sides have in this game speaks for itself man. I don't give a shit about WoW so I don't post about WoW, I don't look up news about WoW, I dont even post on the WoW section of this forum. But you guys are here posting the news and posting on EVERY video / story / promo posted by the shades-bunny.
Seriously, you guys are a joy to watch. Both you and the space bunny make my day every time I hit this site.
I think it's partly because people are afraid of the trends that could result from this, telling developers that they can get away doing x or y. Not all of these fan-funded campaigns are a success story, some never even reach Alpha and the money is lost forever. And then you have Star Citizen, which went through multiple campaigns and now its own donation system along with the sales of virtual ships for a game that's nowhere near close to release (let alone an alpha?). That players are willing to throw away their money so easily encourages more and more companies to seek to prey on players using similar tactics.
It wasn't that long ago where to enter a beta all you needed was to sign up and wait for an email, but then some publisher decided it'd be a good idea to sell Founder's Pack, which people purchased and continues to do so today, and now if you really want to get into beta you're going to have to pony up some cash on a Founder's Pack simply for the privilege of testing their game. Players funding such an unpredictable and greedy project like Star Citizen are sending a similar response "Shoot your ideas and ships that don't even exist yet, we'll pay you anyway". That train of thought is scary, and deserves to be ridiculed by players.
The problem is the majority who post don't care about if it affects the industry or gamers or whoever, most care that at the end of the day they can say "I told you so". Few have even admitted they post to get a rise out of fans.
I think sharing you view and opinions on a project is great, but some of these guys are looking high and low for what ever they can find to prove their point and why they are right. They're doing it for their own needs not for the players, games or industry. This is probably my whole problem with these kind of threads.
I would agree, I would also say it's the other way around as well. Just seems to me there is mention of this game every time I come to this site. It's either someone bashing it and then certain people post to defend and then to argue. But it seems like you make a good point, but then the other side comes in with almost smug comments at times. Neither side is right. Also I would think this would be a warning to anyone regardless of what side you are on. We are so quick to bash other games for pulling DLC.
For the people that support this game. My main curiosity is how long do you support before you start to think something is up? I'm personally not going to buy the game or any ships (although I can appreciate the concept and the designs). I think it is a very ambitious game and hopefully it works out like the developers want. I honestly hope this is not a scam, because if it is it will be big and it has several implications if it turns out as such. This could seriously affect other games who are trying to do KS as well.
It is getting kind of old however. I think we should just kind of dial it down in regards to this game until it becomes a bit more concrete, perhaps a year or so.
There's really nothing to look "high and low" for. All one has to do is follow the history of this project, with an objective, impartial eye and the obvious conclusion is that something very odd - whatever form it takes - is going on. The problem is, SC fans prove themselves, constantly, completely incapable of being impartial or objective, or even honest about what's going on with the project.
Eh? There's only one conclusion? I'm no fan (what is there to be a fan of at present?), yet I don't see that as being the case... Broken promises missed release dates, yadda yadda yadda... None of that is truly "odd"...
Secondly you just described both sides in any fan vs X debate, both sides are usually immovable lumps gathered along either side of a hard-line. It's no different here, singling out fans on that is hardly impartial...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
The problem is the majority who post don't care about if it affects the industry or gamers or whoever, most care that at the end of the day they can say "I told you so". Few have even admitted they post to get a rise out of fans.
I think sharing you view and opinions on a project is great, but some of these guys are looking high and low for what ever they can find to prove their point and why they are right. They're doing it for their own needs not for the players, games or industry. This is probably my whole problem with these kind of threads.
Are you prepared to back that up with actual, valid data? Are you prepared to prove that assertion?
If not, then you're attempting to dismiss the criticisms of others through pure conjecture, simply because you don't like what they have to say. It's the typical "well I can't stop people from having opinions I don't like, so I'll poison the well so I can just dismiss them instead". It's an all-too-common tactic on forums, and it's extremely dishonest.
There's really nothing to look "high and low" for. All one has to do is follow the history of this project, with an objective, impartial eye and the obvious conclusion is that something very odd - whatever form it takes - is going on. The problem is, SC fans prove themselves, constantly, completely incapable of being impartial or objective, or even honest about what's going on with the project. They're too busy making excuses and throwing out wild, unsupported assertions (such as you did) to discredit anyone who dares to not drink the kool-aid.
For example.. Some months ago, I posted a completely neutral comment on YT about a certain project, by a certain person all SC fans are not fans of. It wasn't for the game, nor against it. Further, I didn't say a damn thing about SC, for or against. I simply pointed out corrections to some statements made by others about the development about that other project.
Still, for even posting a simple factual correction, I incurred the wrath of SC/CR fans, whom - over the course of several months - continued to respond to that post, laying into me, accusing me of *being* that other person under a sock account. I wasn't bashing that other person or their project, so in their minds, surely I must be them posting under a sock account. I posted a reply to clarify that I'm *not* that other person, and they called me a liar, and claimed I (he) was trying to hide from them. Seriously.
I finally just "unsubbed" from that post, because it was freaking stupid. Seriously, this is how you people come across. You are *so* obsessed, and *so* far up CR's you-know-what about SC, that *anything* that's not 100% pro SC, or anti-that-other-guy is attacked, and the poster deemed an enemy.
This is why people describe CR/SC fans as cultists... because it's exactly the way some of you behave. Some of the folks backing SC really need to take a step back, get some self-awareness and take a good look at the way they behave. It's pretty damn creepy in many cases.
Very well said and better than me or a lot of others could say it. Sad part it will go in one ear out the other. Truth like this will just get you attacked more for telling it like it is!
I don't think SC is a scam at all, it just pushes what is reasonable to the very limit.
I fear for the future of gaming if this becomes the norm. We get enough shovel-ware already without having to wait for self appointed messiahs to decide when we are ready to receive massively overpriced and overhyped games while they toss around Hollywood in their sports cars and spend 10 weeks making shonky celebrity mo-cap for a game that doesn't yet exist.
The problem is the majority who post don't care about if it affects the industry or gamers or whoever, most care that at the end of the day they can say "I told you so". Few have even admitted they post to get a rise out of fans.
I think sharing you view and opinions on a project is great, but some of these guys are looking high and low for what ever they can find to prove their point and why they are right. They're doing it for their own needs not for the players, games or industry. This is probably my whole problem with these kind of threads.
Are you prepared to back that up with actual, valid data? Are you prepared to prove that assertion?
If not, then you're attempting to dismiss the criticisms of others through pure conjecture, simply because you don't like what they have to say. It's the typical "well I can't stop people from having opinions I don't like, so I'll poison the well so I can just dismiss them instead". It's an all-too-common tactic on forums, and it's extremely dishonest.
There's really nothing to look "high and low" for. All one has to do is follow the history of this project, with an objective, impartial eye and the obvious conclusion is that something very odd - whatever form it takes - is going on. The problem is, SC fans prove themselves, constantly, completely incapable of being impartial or objective, or even honest about what's going on with the project. They're too busy making excuses and throwing out wild, unsupported assertions (such as you did) to discredit anyone who dares to not drink the kool-aid.
For example.. Some months ago, I posted a completely neutral comment on YT about a certain project, by a certain person all SC fans are not fans of. It wasn't for the game, nor against it. Further, I didn't say a damn thing about SC, for or against. I simply pointed out corrections to some statements made by others about the development about that other project.
Still, for even posting a simple factual correction, I incurred the wrath of SC/CR fans, whom - over the course of several months - continued to respond to that post, laying into me, accusing me of *being* that other person under a sock account. I wasn't bashing that other person or their project, so in their minds, surely I must be them posting under a sock account. I posted a reply to clarify that I'm *not* that other person, and they called me a liar, and claimed I (he) was trying to hide from them. Seriously.
I finally just "unsubbed" from that post, because it was freaking stupid. Seriously, this is how you people come across. You are *so* obsessed, and *so* far up CR's you-know-what about SC, that *anything* that's not 100% pro SC, or anti-that-other-guy is attacked, and the poster deemed an enemy.
This is why people describe CR/SC fans as cultists... because it's exactly the way some of you behave. Some of the folks backing SC really need to take a step back, get some self-awareness and take a good look at the way they behave. It's pretty damn creepy in many cases.
Very well said and better than me or a lot of others could say it. Sad part it will go in one ear out the other. Truth like this will just get you attacked more for telling it like it is!
Yeah... except leaving the part out about the other side acting the exact same way... Especially in regard to treating everyone not on their side as being on the side of "the enemy". Which is just as "cult like". It's what makes these debates both fun as well as frustrating.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
2016 is here, and we’re ready to rock! We kicked off the month with a
series of summits in the UK and Los Angeles to prepare for the new
year. There’s still one more to go, an AI summit in Frankfurt happening
next week, but we’re ready to take on 2016! Now that our i’s are dotted
and our t’s crossed, we’re ready to continue getting some great content
out to the community. Specifically: going forward, you can expect to see
regular updates to the Star Citizen Alpha. We are shooting for one
significant patch each month. Expect to see this cycle repeated:
numerous PTU test patches followed by a live
release and then a lull as content for the next patch is prepared and
integrated. As I write this, the team is working on content for Alpha
2.2. Expect to hear more about this release very soon! Meanwhile, here
are the specifics of what each Star Citizen studio was working on in
January…
This is how the monthly report starts.
Instead MrSnuffles posts this: After only 3 years working on the Alpha Concept (PU 2.0), marketing,
selling ships and decorating the offices around the world we have
entered the planning phase for 2016 in February of 2016. Some cynical
people might say, "it's a bit late to plan for 2016 when it is already
February", to them i say, "It's ONLY February, there is plenty of time
this year to finish the plan."
Notice how he uses quotes for the final phrases.
He knows that most haters will jump in and start spiting venom without being bothered to read the lengthy and extremely detailed report regarding all aspects of the game.
A report which details exactly what each and every team is doing and will do in the next month. Engineering, Tech Design, Art, Content and Production.
A report which is light years away from the assumptions he tries to project. Again, he knows that most haters will read his quotes and won't bother to read what the people in question do tell us.
How many posters on this thread did actually read the report ?
Can the moderators please look into this thread ? It's still early in the US.
So a troll post by MrSnuffles manages to let people know about the roadmap for 2016.
I think that deserves a slow handclap. Clap ... clap .... clap.
What I can't decide is whether Mr Snuffles meant to promote SC? Nah ... another troll that has backfired.
The focus should be on the alpha and - in particular - the monthly updates. Are they meaningful etc. Yes I know it may break the heart of people who spent last year saying "there is no game" - more troll posts that only served to promote SC - but the alpha is the frontline. For better or for worse.
The focus should be on the alpha and - in particular - the monthly updates. Are they meaningful etc. Yes I know it may break the heart of people who spent last year saying "there is no game" - more troll posts that only served to promote SC - but the alpha is the frontline. For better or for worse.
No one seems to make a peep when I argue, "if this is an alpha, it's alpha SQ42, not alpha SC".
"But they're the same thing!" . no. "But an alpha for sc is sq42 alpha!" . no.
This is not alpha Star Citizen. This is alpha for a single-player/ co-op game. I don't care that they call it "baby pu", I don't care if they call it "sally". There is no persistent world spaceship mmorpg, not yet, not with cryengine, not in 2017 or 2018. You say others are "wrong", but you are not right.
"There is no game" statement attributes to a fully functional mmo universe in which it might somehow be practical or even "showy" to cruise around in a 25-man spaceship, observed by and in competition with hundreds of other players in their own spaceships, in a multi-system galaxy, fighting not only each other but competent AI opponents. The description goes on and on with relevant toon skills, game economy and other achievements/competitions. This game does not exist. I don't care what you say or how you argue it, there is no Star Citizen. Will there be a Star Citizen? That remains to be seen.
After only 3 years working on the Alpha Concept (PU 2.0), marketing, selling ships and decorating the offices around the world we have entered the planning phase for 2016 in February of 2016. Some cynical people might say, "it's a bit late to plan for 2016 when it is already February", to them i say, "It's ONLY February, there is plenty of time this year to finish the plan."
You have this section highlighted with bold. Can you please direct me to the monthly report where the team tells us such a thing ?
I don't know if you are serious. The bold section is my opinion, i thought that was pretty clear by me using the phrase: "to them i say". It's my opinion on the quoted text from the monthly report.
I know it can be confusing for you and from experience with you asking questions and wanting proof i have already prepared such evidence for you.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
2016 is here, and we’re ready to rock! We kicked off the month with a
series of summits in the UK and Los Angeles to prepare for the new
year. There’s still one more to go, an AI summit in Frankfurt happening
next week, but we’re ready to take on 2016! Now that our i’s are dotted
and our t’s crossed, we’re ready to continue getting some great content
out to the community. Specifically: going forward, you can expect to see
regular updates to the Star Citizen Alpha. We are shooting for one
significant patch each month. Expect to see this cycle repeated:
numerous PTU test patches followed by a live
release and then a lull as content for the next patch is prepared and
integrated. As I write this, the team is working on content for Alpha
2.2. Expect to hear more about this release very soon! Meanwhile, here
are the specifics of what each Star Citizen studio was working on in
January…
This is how the monthly report starts.
Instead MrSnuffles posts this: After only 3 years working on the Alpha Concept (PU 2.0), marketing,
selling ships and decorating the offices around the world we have
entered the planning phase for 2016 in February of 2016. Some cynical
people might say, "it's a bit late to plan for 2016 when it is already
February", to them i say, "It's ONLY February, there is plenty of time
this year to finish the plan."
Notice how he uses quotes for the final phrases.
He knows that most haters will jump in and start spiting venom without being bothered to read the lengthy and extremely detailed report regarding all aspects of the game.
A report which details exactly what each and every team is doing and will do in the next month. Engineering, Tech Design, Art, Content and Production.
A report which is light years away from the assumptions he tries to project. Again, he knows that most haters will read his quotes and won't bother to read what the people in question do tell us.
How many posters on this thread did actually read the report ?
Can the moderators please look into this thread ? It's still early in the US.
If i may kindly refer you to the post above this one. You are a little confused as to what was quoted and what was my opinion. I apologize for the confusion.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
So it's obvious to everyone it's a troll thread and should be closed. Awesome.
I believe that it was a sly attempt to project negative and ofc untrue assumptions.
He puts a "NEWS" in front and then proceeds to quote stuff which is not in the report, fully aware that the hater squad will jump in with replies, like they did.
He knows that these people won't be bothered to read such a lengthy and detailed report.
Oh ye of little faith! Please point me to the stuff i quoted that is not in the report. Thank you.
Have faith!
PS: The quoted stuff is the one in quotes and in italic. italic is not italian it's when the text looks like is leaning to the right. I also modified the original post to make it clearer. That better now?
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
I don't know if you are serious. The bold section is my opinion, i thought that was pretty clear. The text above, which you left out of the quote is from the monthly report.
I know it can be confusing for you and from experience with you asking questions and wanting proof i have already prepared such evidence for you.
Let me help you out here, like always:
You are welcome.
So I can't help but notice that in the image you linked it is stated as a roadmap for 2016. Now, call me crazy but I might have a theory as to why that might be.
Maybe, and just bear with me here, MAYBE this is a concise roadmap for specifically this year. As in there were roadmaps before and this is the new revised roadmap for 2016.
Now I haven't read the rest of this report because it's still just lip service as far as I am concerned (I believe it when I see it); however it seems to me you're trying reeeeeaaaaaally hard to make this seem like they have never had a roadmap up until this point.
If I were a gambling man, which I am from time to time, I am willing to bet you either have made or have taken part in a bit of ribbing on Star Citizen for missing a deadline that they themselves have set. I'm also willing to bet you know that for them to have set deadlines they must have some sort of metric for when they want certain things to be done, you know, a point to point schedule of updates and releases they expect to hit. A map of sorts, one might have a fancy name for it... something like release map or something that starts with an 'R', I couldn't possibly imagine what it might be!
We both know the punchline here it's a roadmap and you know you just made this thread to annoy the Knights of the Table Roberts. Bravo on that end, you've done fairly well.
I don't know if you are serious. The bold section is my opinion, i thought that was pretty clear. The text above, which you left out of the quote is from the monthly report.
I know it can be confusing for you and from experience with you asking questions and wanting proof i have already prepared such evidence for you.
Let me help you out here, like always:
You are welcome.
So I can't help but notice that in the image you linked it is stated as a roadmap for 2016. Now, call me crazy but I might have a theory as to why that might be.
Maybe, and just bear with me here, MAYBE this is a concise roadmap for specifically this year. As in there were roadmaps before and this is the new revised roadmap for 2016.
Now I haven't read the rest of this report because it's still just lip service as far as I am concerned (I believe it when I see it); however it seems to me you're trying reeeeeaaaaaally hard to make this seem like they have never had a roadmap up until this point.
If I were a gambling man, which I am from time to time, I am willing to bet you either have made or have taken part in a bit of ribbing on Star Citizen for missing a deadline that they themselves have set. I'm also willing to bet you know that for them to have set deadlines they must have some sort of metric for when they want certain things to be done, you know, a point to point schedule of updates and releases they expect to hit. A map of sorts, one might have a fancy name for it... something like release map or something that starts with an 'R', I couldn't possibly imagine what it might be!
We both know the punchline here it's a roadmap and you know you just made this thread to annoy the Knights of the Table Roberts. Bravo on that end, you've done fairly well.
Well, yes sir!
I specifically say that they started the planning phase for 2016. I never mention anything about other road maps or planning because we all know the release dates that were given by Chris Roberts so far and how those turned out. Were those planned? I would assume so. I have no hard evidence, maybe @Erillion can jump in with some facts.
But hey, missed deadlines, a year full of promises to deliver Star Marines, that is water under the bridge i would say. Forgive and forget.
Let's focus on 2016! Start early in February of 2016! Plenty of time to plan for this year!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
If I were a gambling man, which I am from time to time, I am willing to bet you either have made or have taken part in a bit of ribbing on Star Citizen for missing a deadline that they themselves have set. I'm also willing to bet you know that for them to have set deadlines they must have some sort of metric for when they want certain things to be done, you know, a point to point schedule of updates and releases they expect to hit. A map of sorts, one might have a fancy name for it... something like release map or something that starts with an 'R', I couldn't possibly imagine what it might be!
You clearly do not know CR and how he is. The guy can change a roadmap with a blink of an eye. Which is why the game is in the state it is. You should read up on him and what people that worked for him have to say about him.
You clearly do not know CR and how he is. The guy can change a roadmap with a blink of an eye. Which is why the game is in the state it is. You should read up on him and what people that worked for him have to say about him.
I am well aware of who Chris Roberts is which is why I am fairly certain the game will be completed just not before 2017 at best. My point was not that the man actually follows his own roadmaps, because we can all see how well that is going, but that he does in fact have one.
You clearly do not know CR and how he is. The guy can change a roadmap with a blink of an eye. Which is why the game is in the state it is. You should read up on him and what people that worked for him have to say about him.
I am well aware of who Chris Roberts is which is why I am fairly certain the game will be completed just not before 2017 at best. My point was not that the man actually follows his own roadmaps, because we can all see how well that is going, but that he does in fact have one.
I have it on good authority that this was a render of Chris Roberts Roadmap done by one of the CIG Artists.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling." - Michael Bitton Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about." - SEANMCAD
I specifically say that they started the planning phase for 2016. I never mention anything about other road maps or planning because we all know the release dates that were given by Chris Roberts so far and how those turned out. Were those planned? I would assume so. I have no hard evidence, maybe @Erillion can jump in with some facts.
But hey, missed deadlines, a year full of promises to deliver Star Marines, that is water under the bridge i would say. Forgive and forget.
Let's focus on 2016! Start early in February of 2016! Plenty of time to plan for this year!
Ah then I have misunderstood you, I was under the impression you were playing coy. My mistake.
I have it on good authority that this was a render of Chris Roberts Roadmap done by one of the CIG Artists.
Fair warning: This might be a rumour.
Now I know you are trolling because that map is missing at least 15 more intersections and a runway that can hold 200 planes at once in it's own instance.
Back to Star Citizen ... **** drumroll **** I have a DREAM... **** drumroll ****
The "roadmap" I would need is the ACTUAL roadmap in the SC Universe. All the routes between small, medium and large wormholes/jump points. Including the traffic lights and "You are too large to fit in here! (Thats what she .....)!" signs. Including the "There be dragons/pirates/asteroids/aliens" warnings. With speed limits and VIP lanes (military ... i meant military lanes).
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Greetings Citizens,
2016 is here, and we’re ready to rock! We kicked off the month with a series of summits in the UK and Los Angeles to prepare for the new year. There’s still one more to go, an AI summit in Frankfurt happening next week, but we’re ready to take on 2016! Now that our i’s are dotted and our t’s crossed, we’re ready to continue getting some great content out to the community. Specifically: going forward, you can expect to see regular updates to the Star Citizen Alpha. We are shooting for one significant patch each month. Expect to see this cycle repeated: numerous PTU test patches followed by a live release and then a lull as content for the next patch is prepared and integrated. As I write this, the team is working on content for Alpha 2.2. Expect to hear more about this release very soon! Meanwhile, here are the specifics of what each Star Citizen studio was working on in January…
This is how the monthly report starts.
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Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
He puts a "NEWS" in front and then proceeds to quote stuff which is not in the report, fully aware that the hater squad will jump in with replies, like they did.
He knows that these people won't be bothered to read such a lengthy and detailed report.
If not, then you're attempting to dismiss the criticisms of others through pure conjecture, simply because you don't like what they have to say. It's the typical "well I can't stop people from having opinions I don't like, so I'll poison the well so I can just dismiss them instead". It's an all-too-common tactic on forums, and it's extremely dishonest.
There's really nothing to look "high and low" for. All one has to do is follow the history of this project, with an objective, impartial eye and the obvious conclusion is that something very odd - whatever form it takes - is going on. The problem is, SC fans prove themselves, constantly, completely incapable of being impartial or objective, or even honest about what's going on with the project. They're too busy making excuses and throwing out wild, unsupported assertions (such as you did) to discredit anyone who dares to not drink the kool-aid.
For example.. Some months ago, I posted a completely neutral comment on YT about a certain project, by a certain person all SC fans are not fans of. It wasn't for the game, nor against it. Further, I didn't say a damn thing about SC, for or against. I simply pointed out corrections to some statements made by others about the development about that other project.
Still, for even posting a simple factual correction, I incurred the wrath of SC/CR fans, whom - over the course of several months - continued to respond to that post, laying into me, accusing me of *being* that other person under a sock account. I wasn't bashing that other person or their project, so in their minds, surely I must be them posting under a sock account. I posted a reply to clarify that I'm *not* that other person, and they called me a liar, and claimed I (he) was trying to hide from them. Seriously.
I finally just "unsubbed" from that post, because it was freaking stupid. Seriously, this is how you people come across. You are *so* obsessed, and *so* far up CR's you-know-what about SC, that *anything* that's not 100% pro SC, or anti-that-other-guy is attacked, and the poster deemed an enemy.
This is why people describe CR/SC fans as cultists... because it's exactly the way some of you behave. Some of the folks backing SC really need to take a step back, get some self-awareness and take a good look at the way they behave. It's pretty damn creepy in many cases.
For the people that support this game. My main curiosity is how long do you support before you start to think something is up? I'm personally not going to buy the game or any ships (although I can appreciate the concept and the designs). I think it is a very ambitious game and hopefully it works out like the developers want. I honestly hope this is not a scam, because if it is it will be big and it has several implications if it turns out as such. This could seriously affect other games who are trying to do KS as well.
It is getting kind of old however. I think we should just kind of dial it down in regards to this game until it becomes a bit more concrete, perhaps a year or so.
Secondly you just described both sides in any fan vs X debate, both sides are usually immovable lumps gathered along either side of a hard-line. It's no different here, singling out fans on that is hardly impartial...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
I fear for the future of gaming if this becomes the norm. We get enough shovel-ware already without having to wait for self appointed messiahs to decide when we are ready to receive massively overpriced and overhyped games while they toss around Hollywood in their sports cars and spend 10 weeks making shonky celebrity mo-cap for a game that doesn't yet exist.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
So a troll post by MrSnuffles manages to let people know about the roadmap for 2016.
I think that deserves a slow handclap. Clap ... clap .... clap.
What I can't decide is whether Mr Snuffles meant to promote SC? Nah ... another troll that has backfired.
The focus should be on the alpha and - in particular - the monthly updates. Are they meaningful etc. Yes I know it may break the heart of people who spent last year saying "there is no game" - more troll posts that only served to promote SC - but the alpha is the frontline. For better or for worse.
"But they're the same thing!" . no.
"But an alpha for sc is sq42 alpha!" . no.
This is not alpha Star Citizen. This is alpha for a single-player/ co-op game. I don't care that they call it "baby pu", I don't care if they call it "sally". There is no persistent world spaceship mmorpg, not yet, not with cryengine, not in 2017 or 2018. You say others are "wrong", but you are not right.
"There is no game" statement attributes to a fully functional mmo universe in which it might somehow be practical or even "showy" to cruise around in a 25-man spaceship, observed by and in competition with hundreds of other players in their own spaceships, in a multi-system galaxy, fighting not only each other but competent AI opponents. The description goes on and on with relevant toon skills, game economy and other achievements/competitions. This game does not exist. I don't care what you say or how you argue it, there is no Star Citizen. Will there be a Star Citizen? That remains to be seen.
I know it can be confusing for you and from experience with you asking questions and wanting proof i have already prepared such evidence for you.
Let me help you out here, like always:
You are welcome.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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Have faith!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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Oh ye of little faith! Please point me to the stuff i quoted that is not in the report. Thank you.
Have faith!
PS: The quoted stuff is the one in quotes and in italic. italic is not italian it's when the text looks like is leaning to the right. I also modified the original post to make it clearer. That better now?
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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Maybe, and just bear with me here, MAYBE this is a concise roadmap for specifically this year. As in there were roadmaps before and this is the new revised roadmap for 2016.
Now I haven't read the rest of this report because it's still just lip service as far as I am concerned (I believe it when I see it); however it seems to me you're trying reeeeeaaaaaally hard to make this seem like they have never had a roadmap up until this point.
If I were a gambling man, which I am from time to time, I am willing to bet you either have made or have taken part in a bit of ribbing on Star Citizen for missing a deadline that they themselves have set. I'm also willing to bet you know that for them to have set deadlines they must have some sort of metric for when they want certain things to be done, you know, a point to point schedule of updates and releases they expect to hit. A map of sorts, one might have a fancy name for it... something like release map or something that starts with an 'R', I couldn't possibly imagine what it might be!
We both know the punchline here it's a roadmap and you know you just made this thread to annoy the Knights of the Table Roberts. Bravo on that end, you've done fairly well.
I specifically say that they started the planning phase for 2016. I never mention anything about other road maps or planning because we all know the release dates that were given by Chris Roberts so far and how those turned out. Were those planned? I would assume so. I have no hard evidence, maybe @Erillion can jump in with some facts.
But hey, missed deadlines, a year full of promises to deliver Star Marines, that is water under the bridge i would say. Forgive and forget.
Let's focus on 2016! Start early in February of 2016! Plenty of time to plan for this year!
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Fair warning: This might be a rumour.
"It's pretty simple, really. If your only intention in posting about a particular game or topic is to be negative, then yes, you should probably move on. Voicing a negative opinion is fine, continually doing so on the same game is basically just trolling."
- Michael Bitton
Community Manager, MMORPG.com
"As an online discussion about Star Citizen grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Derek Smart approaches 1" - MrSnuffles's law
"I am jumping in here a bit without knowing exactly what you all or talking about."
- SEANMCAD
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(It's the 6+lane pentaroundabout north of london I hated this everytime I had to pass it)
When you have cake, it is not the cake that creates the most magnificent of experiences, but it is the emotions attached to it.
The cake is a lie.
Read this ;-)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Omens
and THIS is what the novel describes:
https://bookmole1.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/6a00c225280961549d00fae8da33a4000b.jpg
by two of the greatest authors Terry Pratchett (RIP) and Neil Gaiman.
Back to Star Citizen ... **** drumroll **** I have a DREAM... **** drumroll ****
The "roadmap" I would need is the ACTUAL roadmap in the SC Universe. All the routes between small, medium and large wormholes/jump points. Including the traffic lights and "You are too large to fit in here! (Thats what she .....)!" signs. Including the "There be dragons/pirates/asteroids/aliens" warnings. With speed limits and VIP lanes (military ... i meant military lanes).
Have fun