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If what the above poster rings true 4 years is a tremendous amount of time for a unplayable alpha is it not? I swear I remember back when the project was funded YEARS ago and are you telling me this is honestly all they have to show for it? I thought I met some delusional lemmings in my time on the OF and forums here for FFXIV. Some of the people that actually actively support the game make me really question where these people set the boundaries of reality and that which is not real and will probably never be.
http://kotaku.com/five-things-i-didn-t-get-about-making-video-games-unti-1687510871
Crying foul is easy for the standard keyboard warrior...
There is no game? What's your game? Moaning? Weak mindset. Other question: What is a game?
Glorified tech demo? It has been stated many times that SC Alpha is a testbed and helps the development that is hidden from the public eye (showing everything would minimize the essence of the whole thing... exploring and being curious about the game/lore/mechanics).
It should be ready by now after over 3 years? Maybe if CIG end of 2012 already was at full force and had the manpower. But building a company from the ground up takes away many resources (time). And if you grow too fast it can be quite unstable. Also 3/4/5 years are not long for the whole project.
It seems CR wants his dream game to be build (in the best possible way), some naysayers and overly attached SC critics live in their own dreamworld.
It was stated that the SC fans have become quiet... maybe they become tired of the repetitive critic and bitching. I was. And catching up with all the drama is heavy... sometimes funny and often leads to facepalm.
Fine. You believe there's all this hidden work, behind the scenes, we're not being shown because it will somehow ruin the surprise of a finished game. I can believe that with story aspect of Squadron 42. However, Squadron 42 is not subject to the "increased scope" or "additional features" which give excuse for the delayed development process of SC mmo. Squadron 42 was originally slated for summer of 2014, it will not release until well into 2017. How do you explain this?
Further, if, indeed, this is truly a "testbed", and there, indeed, exists much other work, why is there no "testbed" of planetary landing/ embarkment, actual fps combat, inter-system travel, ship weapon/accessory modules, etc? That included, were it to crash every 10 minutes, were it to be horribly bugged, would be some more semblance of an "alpha". Look, you say potato, I say potato. You say "testbed", I say "tech demo". You see this inside...
...I'm looking right at this, with 20/20 vision.
You need alot more substance to your argument than, "I believe". I actually am compelled to hope for you, but the reality doesn't line up. Add to this the fact so many statements and projections out of Robert's mouth do not come true. Citing the latest, the fact 2.2 is 3 weeks late, I will tell you, is just becoming "another thing", nothing shocking, nothing special. He doesn't even acknowledge or apologize for it, just hides out, waiting for it to blow over. You're defending a group of people with very little respect for their audience. I have no clue why you don't see that.
Have fun
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
While the "bogeyman" story seems to hold sway over a number of redditors, some good population of $1000+ backers are truly annoyed and concerned with all manners of issues. Next you'll say, "can't please everyone!", but that situation is by CIG's own design, the way they've propagandized the project and made so many promises, so many "uh-huhs" and so many "oh, we don't want that either!", in so many directions, just to get backer dollars.
Who will be the culprit of widespread derision next? The FTC? That wasn't a joke, by the way.
You think you are better than others. You like to disguise and make things more complex as necessary. Also trolling. SA?
Of course there is hidden work. Open development doesn't mean to show every little bit. But I know that you are quite aware of that.
No. SQ42 is also affected by the increased scope. More money, more resources, more ways to approach the initial goal and expand it (detail, lore, gameplay mechanics, etc.). Furthermore SC and SQ42 use the same tech and as SC expanded its scope, SQ42 was also affected by it.
How I explain the delay of SQ42? Really? Just google some games and how often and how long they have been delayed. This is nothing spectacular in the game development biz. If you read the link that insulted your intellect you might understand why.... oh sorry that also insulted your intellect.
READ IT AGAIN... SLOWLY
Testbed, tech demo, alpha... these are just words for people to supply their argumentation. Call it what you like. I call it how I like it. It is what it is and there are so many new vids from this "not a game" everyday that one must wonder what's the fuss about, eh?
So CR is lying when he says that 2.2 comes out in 3 weeks and it does not? Did you miss the part when he says (always) that this is not promised and he HOPES that it will be ready by then? He openly admitted that he is not so good in promising dates and delivering. He admitted it. That is not lying.
Oh no he is not the man I think he is? Yes I do not know him personally but from preserving his behavior towards fans he seems quite a nice guy... a little daydreamer he is but everything starts as a thought. Also I am old enough to have been there in the old days and as a passionate gamer (not such a mmo junkie like you... no offense btw.) and a people person I can most of the time see how someone is. I know he can be excentric and a little bit narcissistic but a lot of bosses have these psycholical profile.
Overall he is quite a nice guy. Believe me. You might not like him but that does not make him a bad person. But that is up to your own personality I know very little about.
I never said 2.2 will be something special.
LOL so you do not know him!
Overall he is quite a nice guy. Believe me. You might not like him but that does not make him a bad person. But that is up to your own personality I know very little about.
Yet you sound like you do know him, can't have it both ways. :-D
Think they call that double talk!
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
The initiation of this whole mess was used by DerpShit successfully and he won some goons, uninformed people and unhappy, disappointed backers for his cause. If you have been around you know of his masterplan he did with Algonon, tried with STO and tried it with SC. And this is no conspiracy... that's his mindset as NPD person.
Enough of him... he has enough air time over r/dereksmart.
Goons are goons, some play with "named above", some support him but most of them do their thing (like I said in my last post: social hacking but mostly trolling, being fixed on a certain group person and just being ugly). Fact is that they stir up people, groups, etc. and misuse information.
They use propaganda tactics (not saying that there is no pro SC propaganda). But what is better? Building or destroying? Yes men like to build things to tear them down afterwards... But that is something different.
FTC is a joke as proven before. Even if someone manages to give the. Something they could work on, then I am convinced that it will be nothing noteworthy. DS tried to initiate FTC, FBI and what else comes in your mind... yes he talks much but he was your best chance. Missed.
I do not know how he is when he is private... and I do not want to know as I do not want to know how your private life is and what you do when you are all alone. We preserve what we observe and what we observe also depends on our mindset/psyche.
When you are emphatically you can read people (without guarantee of being right). But you can see if someone is a good or bad person.
Did you really LOL?
Star Citizen – The Extinction Level Event
4/13/15 > ELE has been updated look for 16-04-13.
http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/04/star-citizen-the-ele/
Enjoy and know the truth always comes to light!
Maybe one of the supposed modules will see the light of day, makes me question why not complete the game you sold your backers on rather than try to make 3 games at the same time? I mean reading the responses is like talking to someone trying to sell a religion to me. Once again I can be completely off base but some of the posts I have read just in this thread just are so transparently supportive of the game that you would have to be a donkey so you couldn't smell the BS from a mile away. There is always a "reason" and a "explanation" because the guy could do no wrong. There's all these variables; hold on while I trip over the long list of excuses you two just spouted. I mean keyboard warriors or not when you take that amount of money and you REPEATEDLY raise the stakes full well knowing they may lead to the game never seeing light of day you still have a responsibility at the end of the day.
The bottom line is I really feel bad for the backers as far as the current state of the game goes. Maybe in 2-3 years we may see a semblance of a completed project. As for the testbed for a project behind the scenes makes me giggle to no end though, its as if delusion has reached such a peak that its become palpable and we are just making shit up as we cross (or its been confirmed but still would not make me find it any less hilarious). I just know in 2-3 years from now if its the same crap and/or the company finally cant fool you guys anymore and folds it wont feel the least bad. It will be something to laugh about years and years to come.
What he did is part of social hacking and his hostile takeover attempt. And no this is no stupid talk. As I stated so many times: I know his past, his "legacy".
What at is so dishonest in refunding a toxic person who has an agenda (promoting LOD, attempted uproar with the goal of becoming a consultant and then doing his social hacking tactics).
I am a little bit worried that you can not see this. Go in my post history and read a bit what brought me here. Just do your research on DS. Go over to Reddit and dig out the real infos about him and ignore the dedication others have for him. Read the old Google user groups. Just watch Kate Clicks parody about him.
I do do not hate him but I do not like his intentions.
Or maybe your just trolling me.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Why hasn't there been an ex employee stating that there is no game. Just because of NDA? No I don't think so. If there really would be that much trouble someone somewhere who really worked there would have said something. All we see are ex employees unhappy with some approaches or workflows but none has underlined people's vaporware argument. And no... the Escapist article is proven wrong in many ways.
You say that one of the modules will maybe see the light of day? What about what we already have? Yes it's no complete game but again... 3/4/5 years are nothing special considering the complexity and scope of what CIG is trying to do. Some things they already released and demonstrated (even if denied by others) have really never been done before. But most part of the project is mostly just hard work coding coding coding.
3 games? You mean the SQ42 episodes that where part of the early crowdfunding goals? Nothing new. If they would change that and just make Episode 1 than you an imagine how people would react.
Why does being very supportive alert your BS detector? Is healthy dedication something bad? Yes some are overly attached but who isn't into something?
The he stakes have not been raised after 64 million because of scope overflow.
Do not feel bad for SC supporters. Most of them are aware of the risks. Why are you worried at all? Why do you REALLY care? Why not care about other problems this world really has?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Actually, it's been discussed SQ42 and SC will have very different coding for ship maneuverability, and, well, alot of things. Do you follow this game at all?
Ok. I did. You were mistaken the first time. Now you're just brazenly wrong.
We were told there will be monthly updates, whether they're feature-complete or otherwise. 2.2 was for January, and that's why it's 3 weeks late. I guess that means February's will be sometime in April, and so on. Again, do you even know the game about which you're speaking? This is Star Citizen, from CIG, not "Hallucination in SmartySmart Land: Adventure Island".
Well, it's good you admit you don't know him. I'd have preferred you admitted you didn't know jack else, but a little honesty goes a ways...
People who are habitually, chronically late are not "nice people". They have little respect for others and little respect for themselves. You're standing up for a guy who's right now "hiding out" in Frankfurt, while you step to the plate for him. If you weren't so tragically wrong, I'd say it would earn you marks in some afterlife. As it is, it amounts to a vomitous pile of fail.
Probably would totally be a hypocrite of me to say I would treat this game in a completely different light if it had SOMETHING done. To simply see "Episode 1 released" and It would totally throw me off the fishy trail. Watching telltale series games like Walking dead or the GoT edition/King's quest and the "Life is strange" series have done very well for the type of game it is. Obviously you need to draw a line when a game is MADE to be episode vs cut into pieces and sold separately like the new Hitman game.