The pop up with: you might like the app kendall and kylie scares me about who is actually spending time on this forum. I hope MMORPG doesnt Get paid by clicks, cause I aint clicking dat!!!!
I never click in any advertisement, Internet should not have those. I have every ad blocker i can get my hands into and the ones which can't be hidden i just try to ignore them. I don't recall this money grabbing so necessary in the old Internet times...
Whenever you run into a paywall where you have to pay to see a site's content, you should think, this is what you've asked for. That's the alternative to paying for sites by advertisements, you know.
I see no problem in that. I suggested many times that they should offer a premium service that comes with some gimmicks like i.e. a mail adress @mmorpg.com and such. Alternatively they could test the waters and start some small scale merchandise selling cups, caps, ribbon key fobs, tshirts, maybe a mousepad or other fluff.
I would rather directly support this site with my money before i allow content and scripts of unknown and at times questionable third party sources to be downloaded and possibly executed on my pc.
And yes I know it's damaging to this site revenue and yes I would not mind paying a sub if it meant that we could weed out day one accounts that take away all gveaway keys.
I see no problem in that. I suggested many times that they should offer a premium service that comes with some gimmicks like i.e. a mail adress @mmorpg.com and such...
We already have email access with our mmorpg.com account. Go to your main email account and send a message to volgore@mmorpg.com and it will arrive in your unverified messages inbox.
No, especially now that most of the ads aren't even for games. Just had an Avon lipstick ad on the home page...
Nothing wrong with Avon lipstick
I bet it's buy to play.
I click on the ads that interest me. I even whitelisted MMORPG.com through my adblock software. I have yet to do anything more once at the advertised site, though. Also, no maliciousness encountered, yet.
Ive clicked advertisements here and there on this website. But its always intentional because I enjoy the website.
I don't use adblocker anymore. Haven't for MANY years. I just avoid every single site that blocks content with an ad. Gamespot for instance had pop up ads years ago, not sure if they still do. But I am done with them. Short youtube videos with a 15 second or more ad... I go back to the previous page. I just don't see the content. And honestly, I am missing out on NOTHING.
I don't think ad blockers are affecting sites trying to make a profit.
I think what is affecting them is the fact that revenue from ads has tanked, and this has nothing to do with ad blockers, but with the fact banner-ads simply don't work.
I see no problem in that. I suggested many times that they should offer a premium service that comes with some gimmicks like i.e. a mail adress @mmorpg.com and such...
We already have email access with our mmorpg.com account. Go to your main email account and send a message to volgore@mmorpg.com and it will arrive in your unverified messages inbox.
Yes, but i was thinking of pop3 access. Just an idea... it's not like anyone ever writes me anyway.
Whenever you run into a paywall where you have to pay to see a site's content, you should think, this is what you've asked for. That's the alternative to paying for sites by advertisements, you know.
That's not entirely true. There was an internet before ads too. And it wasn't behind a "paywall".
This "fight" against ad-blockers is already lost. And not because people use ad-blockers, but because these ads on sites are highly ineffective and most companies that spend millions on marketing research know this and no longer use them.
If a site relies on revenue from traditional ads, they need to diversify their income streams to cushion the blow. Not fight some idiotic and pointless battle against ad-blockers like Forbes is doing, because for every 1 person who turns off their ad-blocker, a 1000 other people won't, and most companies no longer rely on these type of ads to begin with.
Advertisers offering economic signal in exchange for user attention
I have a hard time with that link suggesting advertising equates with a "reliable sign of confidence in a product":
He argues: "To a good decision scientist, a consumer preference for buying
advertised brands is perfectly rational. The manufacturer knows more
about his product than you do, almost by definition. Therefore the
expensive act of advertising his own product is a reliable sign of his
own confidence in it. "
This is not what I see.
Let's take photography. There are a few very reputable lens makers of very high quality lenses:
-Carl Zeiss -Leica -Voigtlander
They advertise...nowhere. It is extremely rare you will find an ad for these companies. Yet they sell, premium and very reliable lenses.
Many very UNreliable lens brands of much lower quality, advertise everywhere:
I never click in any advertisement, Internet should not have those. I have every ad blocker i can get my hands into and the ones which can't be hidden i just try to ignore them. I don't recall this money grabbing so necessary in the old Internet times...
Curious. How do you expect websites like this to stay on the air without some form of money generation?
No, I do not click. I block every single ad to save speed and (if I am looking at work) to block that super-high blonde with very very large chest. I do remember when Scarlet Blade was advertised and I had to block every single ad of them.
Besides, ads does not interest me, If I need game, I use mmorpg.com forums. I ask in blogs. Or just search mmorpg.com game list. I am *not* the person sponsors are interested in...
I never click in any advertisement, Internet should not have those. I have every ad blocker i can get my hands into and the ones which can't be hidden i just try to ignore them. I don't recall this money grabbing so necessary in the old Internet times...
Whenever you run into a paywall where you have to pay to see a site's content, you should think, this is what you've asked for. That's the alternative to paying for sites by advertisements, you know.
Let me quote Don Marti:
"There are two expectations of reciprocity:
Users offering personal data in exchange for content
Advertisers offering economic signal in exchange for user attention
Complaints about the immorality of ad blocking tend to focus on the first one. But that can't be the whole story. Advertisers started breaking the second one, with complex data-gathering schemes and targeting that interfere with the signal, before ad blocking started catching on. Ad blocking is not users taking the initiative to violate a norm, but users reacting to advertisers violating a norm."
Early in the life of the Web, when advertising was just a simple static banner that advertised a product on a site that I wanted to visit, I had no problem with that whatsoever. I happily surfed the web looking at hundreds of completely benign advertisements per day.
The problem is that advertising has gone far beyond that framework. Advertising has gone beyond a benign bump on the skin and is full blown malignant cancer now.
If I leave all of my safeguards turned off and I visit this site, then for the next few hours any other site that I visit with advertising will be blasting me with targeted ads for MMO's or just video games. That is crossing the goddamn line. If the advertisers will keep their nose out of my business, then I'll happily delete the adblockers and tracking disabler's that I run.
If they keep data mining me, tracking me, using java scripts to run, playing videos that eat my bandwidth.... ect, then forget it.
A couple of people quoted me so i'll answer them with your insight, totally agree. As i said before, every website before this streaming era of Internet mantained just fine without ads, why are they so needed now? I can just try to ignore the ads but most of the time they show up in the middle of my screen and i have to click in order to take them away, that's lame. And if something requires me to pay in order to read it, then it's probably not worth it.
I usually don't click ads on websites because they dont interest me. With that said, i have clicked game ads on this forum before to check some games out. And you guessed it, they didn't interest me. Its not a coincidence that all the f2p p2w crappy games out there are the same ones advertising on most forums and mmo sites. They wouldnt be noticed at all for being so bad.
EDIT: the majority of ads on this site are from R2Games anyway... they(R2Games) could shut down for all i care.
I never click in any advertisement, Internet should not have those. I have every ad blocker i can get my hands into and the ones which can't be hidden i just try to ignore them. I don't recall this money grabbing so necessary in the old Internet times...
Whenever you run into a paywall where you have to pay to see a site's content, you should think, this is what you've asked for. That's the alternative to paying for sites by advertisements, you know.
I see no problem in that. I suggested many times that they should offer a premium service that comes with some gimmicks like i.e. a mail adress @mmorpg.com and such. Alternatively they could test the waters and start some small scale merchandise selling cups, caps, ribbon key fobs, tshirts, maybe a mousepad or other fluff.
I would rather directly support this site with my money before i allow content and scripts of unknown and at times questionable third party sources to be downloaded and possibly executed on my pc.
we have a @mmorpg.com email address. Yours is volgore@mmorpg.com from which you can send and receive emails. Great email address to sign up for game forums and beta tests.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Pretty much what I do every now and then. When I visit sites that I like, I'll make it a point to click the ads every now and then. I did it while visiting Dulfy.net, and I do it occasionally on here. I even registered for one of those browser games at some points. (And then played for 10 min before saying bye bye xD)
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
Depends on how I access the site. PC's have an array of blockers, but not as many on ipad and cell. If I read something in a forum that sounds good I'll click on the ad if it's not blocked. I often wonder how much band width is taken up by ads on unblocked systems.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I admit, when bored to tears with today's piss-poor mmo game selection, I occasionally click on one of these godawful game advertisements, and I always come to regret it 15-20m later.
Funny thing is, I have to jump through some hoops to actually click on them due to how many plugins I have to prevent it in firefox. Me and rojo have that in common, except my webpages show images as well as the text.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.
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I suggested many times that they should offer a premium service that comes with some gimmicks like i.e. a mail adress @mmorpg.com and such. Alternatively they could test the waters and start some small scale merchandise selling cups, caps, ribbon key fobs, tshirts, maybe a mousepad or other fluff.
I would rather directly support this site with my money before i allow content and scripts of unknown and at times questionable third party sources to be downloaded and possibly executed on my pc.
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I do it to support the site not because I'm looking for anything to play.
- Ads? What ads? (Sponsored by AdBlock)
And yes I know it's damaging to this site revenue and yes I would not mind paying a sub if it meant that we could weed out day one accounts that take away all gveaway keys.
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I click on the ads that interest me. I even whitelisted MMORPG.com through my adblock software. I have yet to do anything more once at the advertised site, though. Also, no maliciousness encountered, yet.
VG
I don't use adblocker anymore. Haven't for MANY years. I just avoid every single site that blocks content with an ad. Gamespot for instance had pop up ads years ago, not sure if they still do. But I am done with them. Short youtube videos with a 15 second or more ad... I go back to the previous page. I just don't see the content. And honestly, I am missing out on NOTHING.
How this site looks in chrome:
How this site looks in my FireFox add-on fortress where only text makes it through:
I think what is affecting them is the fact that revenue from ads has tanked, and this has nothing to do with ad blockers, but with the fact banner-ads simply don't work.
This "fight" against ad-blockers is already lost. And not because people use ad-blockers, but because these ads on sites are highly ineffective and most companies that spend millions on marketing research know this and no longer use them.
If a site relies on revenue from traditional ads, they need to diversify their income streams to cushion the blow. Not fight some idiotic and pointless battle against ad-blockers like Forbes is doing, because for every 1 person who turns off their ad-blocker, a 1000 other people won't, and most companies no longer rely on these type of ads to begin with.
Instead they would be investing in having paid shills post endless streams of positive or negative 'personal opinion'.
The last company I worked for did exactly this, getting people to write posts like
"I am so looking forward to when the next festival takes place"
followed by another post by the same person using another account to reply
"I know, last year was so amazing I had such a good time. I just hope I can get tickets early as everyone is going to be there".
No need to risk getting the ad blocked and because the comments come from 'other likeminded fans' people just eat it up.
He argues: "To a good decision scientist, a consumer preference for buying advertised brands is perfectly rational. The manufacturer knows more about his product than you do, almost by definition. Therefore the expensive act of advertising his own product is a reliable sign of his own confidence in it. "
This is not what I see.
Let's take photography. There are a few very reputable lens makers of very high quality lenses:
-Carl Zeiss
-Leica
-Voigtlander
They advertise...nowhere. It is extremely rare you will find an ad for these companies. Yet they sell, premium and very reliable lenses.
Many very UNreliable lens brands of much lower quality, advertise everywhere:
-Samyang
-Tamron
-Sigma
This goes completely against his theory.
I self identify as a monkey.
Besides, ads does not interest me, If I need game, I use mmorpg.com forums. I ask in blogs. Or just search mmorpg.com game list. I am *not* the person sponsors are interested in...
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As i said before, every website before this streaming era of Internet mantained just fine without ads, why are they so needed now? I can just try to ignore the ads but most of the time they show up in the middle of my screen and i have to click in order to take them away, that's lame.
And if something requires me to pay in order to read it, then it's probably not worth it.
EDIT: the majority of ads on this site are from R2Games anyway... they(R2Games) could shut down for all i care.
we have a @mmorpg.com email address. Yours is volgore@mmorpg.com from which you can send and receive emails. Great email address to sign up for game forums and beta tests.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
Sponsored videos as long as they are marked and properly disclosed I don't mind.(Some are even worth watching)
But all the damn windows and banners, I rather not get eye cancer.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Funny thing is, I have to jump through some hoops to actually click on them due to how many plugins I have to prevent it in firefox. Me and rojo have that in common, except my webpages show images as well as the text.
To find an intelligent person in a PUG is not that rare, but to find a PUG made up of "all" intelligent people is one of the rarest phenomenons in the known universe.