So I take it none of you guys complaining use cell phones for surfing or playing games on it? Just wondering?
You have a higher chance convincing me to climb mount everest than get me to browse the internet on a puny smartphone.
I think you missed what I was getting at. But yeah you can surf with FF or other browsers but the point is any app installed on a cell phone, most will be getting your info and put it out there.
So the way you guys talk about getting infected from this site, none of you should even have a cell phone. 99.9% more of a chance of getting spam and your info getting out there.
Just saying!
Totally understand where you're going (and I actually agree, mostly), but there's nothing wrong with people trying to limit the amount of information out there when they can. What you're essentially implying is that, if you occasionally don't wash your hands to prevent infection before eating anything (a snack, something offered, etc), you should never wash your hands and also pick up infected needles whenever prompted.
That was a great response and sad part is I know people like that. It would be nice to pay 5 bucks a month for no ads. For this site to do that they would need to know if the difference from ads to pay would actually give the the same or a little more in funds. I tend to believe the ads would give them more revenue.
Just would hate to lose this site. We really do not have many sites to choose from that are like this one.
I believe the content is great the mods are fair and like I said many times, great people to discuss and argue points with. Even the guys that give us a hard time like @Erillion yet we can still get along. Just don't see sites like this anymore. majority of sites out there are run by game developers. They are in bed with the game they review.
I agree, completely. I love this site; it's been part of my daily looks for several years, and occasionally, I interact in the forums.
Honestly, if MMORPG.com knows that a substantial number of users are using apps like ABP, there's not really any reason not to offer some sort of subscription service for no ads (or other goodies, since most people are already not seeing ads). Hope that makes sense; if they already know they aren't generating enough from ads, they should really seek other methods of revenue that involve the community.
I think more than ever, people are willing to pay for ad-free experiences on the internet, and also willing to support the websites they like the most. Look at Massively.com; they were completely crowd-funded (IIRC) and received way more than their original goal. There's no reason MMORPG.com (the OG of MMORPG sites) shouldn't be tapping into additional revenue sources that don't include lazy ad banners. It's the equivalent of launching an MMO with a sub-only option (*grins*), in that there's no reason to artificially limit the amount/ways of revenue you can make.
It's the sites that have chosen to go full overboard on moronic ad techniques that have made me start using ad-blockers.
I've used the net and bulletin boards etc since the 80's , never have used ad-blockers through the 90's and 2000's as letting sites have a few cents for a click and non obnoxious ads seemed quite fair.
Then, this site included , sites starting doing monstrous pop-up ads , obnoxious videos and sounds , and things like full page ads that cant be closed on the Ipad and so on.
Now I use ad-blockers and alternative browsers everywhere.
Blaming the "ad companies" isn't an excuse either , the site owners made the agreement, it's on them.
So they (site owners )brought the ad blockers on themselves by going into stupid land with the over the top style ads and pop-ups.
I donate/tip often on Twitch for twitch streamers that do quality work but don't beg , paypal money on a few forums and other sites that keep them 100% add free for me and want them to stay up , because they don't ever , every do full page video ads and redirects.
Again , sites they chose ad-providers who went into stupid land have themselves to blame for the rise of ad-block use.
Nope. Never clicked an ad on ANY site and never will. That's assuming they even get past my adblock utils, which I have used constantly for the last 9 or 10 years.
No. I don't like how many of the ads sexualize women. Remember the one for League of Angels? How about those animated ads where a woman's breasts start expanding like they're her lungs? Given the current state of MMOs, I'll probably quit them once my current one is sundowned.
I generally just ignore them as much as possible but this last week or two there has been a giant screen covering ad that I couldn't get past so I just went elsewhere until it went away.
Even the guys that give us a hard time like @Erillion yet we can still get along.
I am so sorry to have disturbed your agitprop campaign ;-) Facts and verifyable links seem to give you a hard time ....
As to the OP question of the thread: For this website i have allowed ads (using an Adblocker otherwise) as i want to support the website. I occasionally click the ads, but not all the time. I have found something interesting too (Wildstar) through an ad here.
i never minded ADs , until they started opening new tabs , or little windows with sounds , videos or gifs.... half of those ads sites are the worse thing u could open on the inet (malwares , and whatnot)
i support the site visiting it every day , and i see ads here and there , never click , if i need info about a game , i search it on google myself.
I will click an ad on the site if I want to see a game that I didn't remember existed. But other than that I usually tend to avoid ads simply because I usually know about what they are advertising
It's the sites that have chosen to go full overboard on moronic ad techniques that have made me start using ad-blockers.
I've used the net and bulletin boards etc since the 80's , never have used ad-blockers through the 90's and 2000's as letting sites have a few cents for a click and non obnoxious ads seemed quite fair.
Then, this site included , sites starting doing monstrous pop-up ads , obnoxious videos and sounds , and things like full page ads that cant be closed on the Ipad and so on.
Now I use ad-blockers and alternative browsers everywhere.
Blaming the "ad companies" isn't an excuse either , the site owners made the agreement, it's on them.
So they (site owners )brought the ad blockers on themselves by going into stupid land with the over the top style ads and pop-ups.
I donate/tip often on Twitch for twitch streamers that do quality work but don't beg , paypal money on a few forums and other sites that keep them 100% add free for me and want them to stay up , because they don't ever , every do full page video ads and redirects.
Again , sites they chose ad-providers who went into stupid land have themselves to blame for the rise of ad-block use.
There is a shot around here somewhere of someone using Ghostery to list the literally 42 trackers and ad services and metrics widgets that MMORPG.com was using at the time.
By any measure, that is way over the top.
I use ad blocker, and don't feel the least bit guilty about it.
This, love the service here and if you want the lights to stay on here at mmorpg.com. Then pls white list this site on your ad blocker and click the ads from time to time please.
I think a large % of data usage is also banners at the end of people's posts with gifs that repeat over and over =-P I get ad blockers when you or on a data plan but if you are not, whitelist sites you want to support.
Here is the traffic of 2 large news sites that recently started blocking users if they use ad block software.
Instead of people turning off their ad blocker, users simply left.
Good luck to them...
Most forums, blogs, "news" sites tend to grossly overvalue what they're providing (hint - that's why people aren't paying you for it and you resort to ads).
I personally don't use ad blockers*, let them have their ad revenue, but honestly most of the garbage on the internet is just that, garbage. At it's best, it's mildly entertaining, but it's mostly just there to fill some time when you're not doing anything in particular (like sitting on the toilet).
Clickbait articles, half hearted attempts at reviews, pointless hype, bickering - I mean, oh no, what ever would I do if I got banned from some website!?
*If a site starts using autoplay video ads, I'm done. I leave the site forever.
holy shit are you telling me my data is getting used up by ads!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? FFS why didn't I think about that!! I feel like a idiot. anyone offer a awesome ad blocker for android?
I find that the same handful of games is advertised on EVERY site and those games usually have just come out anyway.
Advertisers should offer nearly free packages for small hits so indie devs can get in on the advertising action. Like a group of indies can get together and buy advertising that rotates all their games or shows off all 10 at once. I don't think plastering one game across the top and sides of a page is good use of space. Could of displayed a dozen indies in that space
It's the sites that have chosen to go full overboard on moronic ad techniques that have made me start using ad-blockers.
I've used the net and bulletin boards etc since the 80's , never have used ad-blockers through the 90's and 2000's as letting sites have a few cents for a click and non obnoxious ads seemed quite fair.
Then, this site included , sites starting doing monstrous pop-up ads , obnoxious videos and sounds , and things like full page ads that cant be closed on the Ipad and so on.
Now I use ad-blockers and alternative browsers everywhere.
Blaming the "ad companies" isn't an excuse either , the site owners made the agreement, it's on them.
So they (site owners )brought the ad blockers on themselves by going into stupid land with the over the top style ads and pop-ups.
I donate/tip often on Twitch for twitch streamers that do quality work but don't beg , paypal money on a few forums and other sites that keep them 100% add free for me and want them to stay up , because they don't ever , every do full page video ads and redirects.
Again , sites they chose ad-providers who went into stupid land have themselves to blame for the rise of ad-block use.
Great response, yet i've asked a similar question before which seems that nobody can answer: why in the older times of the Internet nobody complained about getting their ads blocked? Why is now so necessary to include them in any site? Seems like before everyone just made the sites for the joy of it, doesn't it? Could it be just... greed?
It's the sites that have chosen to go full overboard on moronic ad techniques that have made me start using ad-blockers.
I've used the net and bulletin boards etc since the 80's , never have used ad-blockers through the 90's and 2000's as letting sites have a few cents for a click and non obnoxious ads seemed quite fair.
Then, this site included , sites starting doing monstrous pop-up ads , obnoxious videos and sounds , and things like full page ads that cant be closed on the Ipad and so on.
Now I use ad-blockers and alternative browsers everywhere.
Blaming the "ad companies" isn't an excuse either , the site owners made the agreement, it's on them.
So they (site owners )brought the ad blockers on themselves by going into stupid land with the over the top style ads and pop-ups.
I donate/tip often on Twitch for twitch streamers that do quality work but don't beg , paypal money on a few forums and other sites that keep them 100% add free for me and want them to stay up , because they don't ever , every do full page video ads and redirects.
Again , sites they chose ad-providers who went into stupid land have themselves to blame for the rise of ad-block use.
Great response, yet i've asked a similar question before which seems that nobody can answer: why in the older times of the Internet nobody complained about getting their ads blocked? Why is now so necessary to include them in any site? Seems like before everyone just made the sites for the joy of it, doesn't it? Could it be just... greed?
in the old times not many had access to the Internet.(insert south park depression episode here) now its a multibillion dollar advertising platform where google can make or brake your internet company. company's are paying millions of dollars to have advertisements draw your eye away from what ever your doing so you are forced to watch their commercials. Youtube, twitch are becoming the masters at it where you have to watch the 30 second commercials to have access to your content.
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Honestly, if MMORPG.com knows that a substantial number of users are using apps like ABP, there's not really any reason not to offer some sort of subscription service for no ads (or other goodies, since most people are already not seeing ads). Hope that makes sense; if they already know they aren't generating enough from ads, they should really seek other methods of revenue that involve the community.
I think more than ever, people are willing to pay for ad-free experiences on the internet, and also willing to support the websites they like the most. Look at Massively.com; they were completely crowd-funded (IIRC) and received way more than their original goal. There's no reason MMORPG.com (the OG of MMORPG sites) shouldn't be tapping into additional revenue sources that don't include lazy ad banners. It's the equivalent of launching an MMO with a sub-only option (*grins*), in that there's no reason to artificially limit the amount/ways of revenue you can make.
It is not the user their fault
-that adds became intrusive
-that many adds contain malware
The only thing users are doing is protecting their PC.
And if you think this business model of banner ads, is going to last, you are delusional.
The Division is a fun game for many. I suppose you may not like these new games ... but you don't make up the whole market, do you?
Not the biggest problem I had though, that one is left for when the toilet paper broke on me and my hand met its organic demise.
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The whole site is a paid advertisement.
(Excepting the forums.)
I've used the net and bulletin boards etc since the 80's , never have used ad-blockers through the 90's and 2000's as letting sites have a few cents for a click and non obnoxious ads seemed quite fair.
Then, this site included , sites starting doing monstrous pop-up ads , obnoxious videos and sounds , and things like full page ads that cant be closed on the Ipad and so on.
Now I use ad-blockers and alternative browsers everywhere.
Blaming the "ad companies" isn't an excuse either , the site owners made the agreement, it's on them.
So they (site owners )brought the ad blockers on themselves by going into stupid land with the over the top style ads and pop-ups.
I donate/tip often on Twitch for twitch streamers that do quality work but don't beg , paypal money on a few forums and other sites that keep them 100% add free for me and want them to stay up , because they don't ever , every do full page video ads and redirects.
Again , sites they chose ad-providers who went into stupid land have themselves to blame for the rise of ad-block use.
As to the OP question of the thread:
For this website i have allowed ads (using an Adblocker otherwise) as i want to support the website. I occasionally click the ads, but not all the time. I have found something interesting too (Wildstar) through an ad here.
Have fun
i support the site visiting it every day , and i see ads here and there , never click , if i need info about a game , i search it on google myself.
Instead of people turning off their ad blocker, users simply left.
Good luck to them...
ads that
1) cost people bandwidth
2) cost people and ISP money
3) infect devices with malware
4) are intrusive and annoying
this is a self inflicted consequence of stupidity by the ad networks and sites using intrusive ads
it's a result of their own greed
not only have USERS turned against ads, ISP, internet service providers have too
http://uk.businessinsider.com/enders-analysis-ad-blocker-study-finds-ads-take-up-79-of-mobile-data-transfer-2016-3?r=US&IR=T
By any measure, that is way over the top.
I use ad blocker, and don't feel the least bit guilty about it.
I personally don't use ad blockers*, let them have their ad revenue, but honestly most of the garbage on the internet is just that, garbage. At it's best, it's mildly entertaining, but it's mostly just there to fill some time when you're not doing anything in particular (like sitting on the toilet).
Clickbait articles, half hearted attempts at reviews, pointless hype, bickering - I mean, oh no, what ever would I do if I got banned from some website!?
*If a site starts using autoplay video ads, I'm done. I leave the site forever.
I find that the same handful of games is advertised on EVERY site and those games usually have just come out anyway.
Advertisers should offer nearly free packages for small hits so indie devs can get in on the advertising action. Like a group of indies can get together and buy advertising that rotates all their games or shows off all 10 at once. I don't think plastering one game across the top and sides of a page is good use of space. Could of displayed a dozen indies in that space
http://baronsofthegalaxy.com/ An MMO game I created, solo. It's live now and absolutely free to play!
Could it be just... greed?
in the old times not many had access to the Internet.(insert south park depression episode here) now its a multibillion dollar advertising platform where google can make or brake your internet company. company's are paying millions of dollars to have advertisements draw your eye away from what ever your doing so you are forced to watch their commercials. Youtube, twitch are becoming the masters at it where you have to watch the 30 second commercials to have access to your content.