pretty much anything the consumer can technically do right now is showing the industry that its selling out. There arent lines at the store because you cant buy them at the store yet. sell out after sell out after sell out after sell out.
no games that arent school projects?
you seriously think you have a better pulse on the consumer market place and what they might like then Samsung, HTC, Disney, Valve, Facebook, Google, Sony or Microsoft just to name a few of the big hitters? really? what magic juice is that?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Unfortunately, I no longer have the disposable income I had a few years ago. If this was 5 or 10 years ago, I'd have a pre-order in already.
Now I'll wait until it's a more affordable package overall. Lower prices for the tech, and some smash-hit games on offer. Both of those requirements will be met, just most probably not this year and possibly not the next either.
SEANMCAD said: I think not buying 1st generation is perfectly fine however, what about the modem? our family bought one of the first generation modems was that a bad choice? nope.
also, from what I have been told the CV1 of Oculus 'feels about as intrusive to your head as a baseball cap'
I'm sorry, but I've seen people wearing these things, and they seem about as intrusive as strapping a glazed ham to your face.
They can say what they want, but they're gonna have to get thinner by about 50% before I'm interested.
They are listed as about 220 grams of weight. It takes 28 grams to equal an ounce, so the total weight is a little over 8 ounces, very surprisingly light.
That isn't much more than my cell phone, although because of the way the weight is carried is will seem a little heavier than clipping a cell phone to your forehead. But definitely not like a glazed ham!
Sorry to say, but with the requirement to get the proper separation from your eyes to allow VR image blending, these headsets are unlikely to get much narrower.
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Holographic projectors won't be coming to a Best Buy anytime soon, unlikely within our lifespans. So this VR gear, or something similar, is likely the best we are going to get.
The price may seem steep, but it is less than what an iPhone 6S costs. I am much more concerned about the PC cost. I built my current PC a little less than 4 years ago, and it handles modern games very well. I maintain framerates over 50 in ESO with the graphics on max. But the only thing in my PC that meets the specs are my SSD and memory, 16GB. I will need to upgrade the CPU (I have an i5-3470; calls for an i5-4590) and the video card (AMD 7870 w/ 4GB; requires a R9-290 or a GTX 970 or higher). Upgrading the CPU will require a new motherboard, so now I need to build a whole new system. So the cost is going to be very high for me...
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
Unfortunately, I no longer have the disposable income I had a few years ago. If this was 5 or 10 years ago, I'd have a pre-order in already.
We have abut the same disposable income, but the economy is uncertain, the job market is weak, the world seems to be in chaos. I'm not going to spend it on unproven technology.
Especially not $700.
And I'm certainly not spending $400 on a GPU just to make uncertain technology work. It is their job to make the product accessible, not mine. If the average PC isn't fast enough, that's on them.
Ahh isnt that cute. two examples to my 4 and all as evidence that people are RIGHT NOT are QUOTE: 'not running out to buy them'
1. I am responding the the comment that people are not RIGHT NOT runnning out to buy them which clearly they are. 2. I gave 4 examples of ONE technology that has sold out.
just to help you out a bit there is a difference in 4 sell outs in a row and 1
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Not getting one around release, because of the lack of games.
Regardless, I'll have to try one before deciding. I got the VR thingy for the Samsung S6, and it's extremely uncomfortable to wear, the nose hurts like hell after just a few minutes, and it can't be adjusted to avoid it. If the oculus is similar, it's a no-buy regardless of the rest.
1. I am responding the the comment that people are not RIGHT NOT runnning out to buy them which clearly they are.
Which VR headset have you bought?
I have bought Dk1, Dk2, and pre-ordered CV1.
again read this carefully please:
The claim was 'people are not running out RIGHT NOW to buy this thing'
I am saying that in anyway that the customer is able to buy it, its 'running out to buy it' I am not sure what 'running out to buy it' means but I am taking guess that a sell out of DK1, GearVR |Innovative edition, Gear VR consumer edition, Oculus pre-order CV1, and Sony VR is a pretty good indicator that the buyers are actualllyl trying to 'run out and buy them'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
1. I am responding the the comment that people are not RIGHT NOT runnning out to buy them which clearly they are.
Which VR headset have you bought?
I have bought Dk1, Dk2, and pre-ordered CV1.
why do I not believe you
because I am the local VR fan who makes a habit of posting VR information all the time and saying things lik 'my monitor costed me $700'? I dont know trust issues maybe?
why does it even remotely matter to the point of 'RUNNING OUT TO BUY THEM RIGHT NOW'?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Unfortunately, I no longer have the disposable income I had a few years ago. If this was 5 or 10 years ago, I'd have a pre-order in already.
We have abut the same disposable income, but the economy is uncertain, the job market is weak, the world seems to be in chaos. I'm not going to spend it on unproven technology.
Especially not $700.
And I'm certainly not spending $400 on a GPU just to make uncertain technology work. It is their job to make the product accessible, not mine. If the average PC isn't fast enough, that's on them.
I wasn't referring to society in general, I was only speaking for myself.
I've just spent over $2000 putting together a new gaming PC, my previous was over 4 years old. I certainly won't be splashing out another $500 to $600 for a first gen VR headset with a severely limited game selection.
I can easily justify the $700 for my 980 Ti, but I couldn't justify the same for a VR headset. In a year or two the value will most likely look much better, and my GPU will be able to drive it already.
I imagine it is the same level of respect you show to people who have jobs, have lots of disposable income, can post things on this forum while at work and all the other times you have stated "I don't believe you". And that level of respect is that you offer none when people seem to have something you do not.
About Oculus Rift selling out. Usually they also include how many units were sold out if it's ligit. Over wise they could be doing what Apple does sometimes and only ship few units to stores. This creates the illusion they are selling more then they actually are and can be used to make the hype train go faster.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
About Oculus Rift selling out. Usually they also include how many units were sold out if it's ligit. Over wise they could be doing what Apple does sometimes and only ship few units to stores. This creates the illusion they are selling more then they actually are and can be used to make the hype train go faster.
but again
exactly what evidence is one looking for when they say 'people are not running out and buying these things'
when 5...not 1....5 of them have solld out. Dk1, GearVR innovative, gearvr consumer, CV1 pre-order and Sony
when one makes a statement like 'people are not running out and buying these things' one would assume there is some datapoint in the universe to kinda sorta maybe suggest that this statement istrue
the future success of VR is clearly open for debate and i have no issue with such conversatsions but there is no evidence that I am aware of to suggest at this time that people are 'not running out and buying these things'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
The price may seem steep, but it is less than what an iPhone 6S costs.
How many apps does an iPhone have compared to VR games?
A phone allows you to -call -bank -take pictures -take video -go online -write email -do GPS -tether wireless internet to your PC etc
what does VR do except give you a stereo image or make you throw up?
Why do the vast majority of purchasers buy an iPhone 6S? I can guarantee that the majority do not use them to access the bank, use as a base for wireless, or most damning, etc. They get them because of the games they can play and access to youtube and facebook.
In other words, they get them for their entertainment value.
Isn't Occulus Rift all about entertainment value?
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
The price may seem steep, but it is less than what an iPhone 6S costs.
How many apps does an iPhone have compared to VR games?
A phone allows you to -call -bank -take pictures -take video -go online -write email -do GPS -tether wireless internet to your PC etc
what does VR do except give you a stereo image or make you throw up?
Why do the vast majority of purchasers buy an iPhone 6S? I can guarantee that the majority do not use them to access the bank, use as a base for wireless, or most damning, etc. They get them because of the games they can play and access to youtube and facebook.
In other words, they get them for their entertainment value.
Isn't Occulus Rift all about entertainment value?
it would be interesting to find out exactly what the most common apps being used are becasue I can tell you I rarely ever use my smart phone for games or youtube. I have it mostly for news while I am eating alone and GPS.
Having said that if I could go back to 2005 I am willing to bet you that most people here pew pewed the innovation of $500 smart phones then too
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
About Oculus Rift selling out. Usually they also include how many units were sold out if it's ligit. Over wise they could be doing what Apple does sometimes and only ship few units to stores. This creates the illusion they are selling more then they actually are and can be used to make the hype train go faster.
but again
exactly what evidence is one looking for when they say 'people are not running out and buying these things'
when 5...not 1....5 of them have solld out. Dk1, GearVR innovative, gearvr consumer, CV1 pre-order and Sony
when one makes a statement like 'people are not running out and buying these things' one would assume there is some datapoint in the universe to kinda sorta maybe suggest that this statement istrue
the future success of VR is clearly open for debate and i have no issue with such conversatsions but there is no evidence that I am aware of to suggest at this time that people are 'not running out and buying these things'
All I'm saying is I know something if the report was 50,000 units were sold out at Amazon. For all I know each store you listed could have gotten 5 units to sell. Also none of the people I know who are into computers and spend lots of money on them have run out to buy one, yet.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
The promise of VR has been out there for decades. For me, it's always the same. Here, put this thing on your face that will be uncomfortable and annoying because you wear glasses.
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Most gamers by far will, in addition to the steep entry price of the VR device itself, also need to invest in expensive new hardware to be able to run games on it properly. So I think many are apprehensive due to the costs involved.
The price may seem steep, but it is less than what an iPhone 6S costs.
How many apps does an iPhone have compared to VR games?
A phone allows you to -call -bank -take pictures -take video -go online -write email -do GPS -tether wireless internet to your PC etc
what does VR do except give you a stereo image or make you throw up?
Why do the vast majority of purchasers buy an iPhone 6S? I can guarantee that the majority do not use them to access the bank, use as a base for wireless, or most damning, etc. They get them because of the games they can play and access to youtube and facebook. In other words, they get them for their entertainment value. Isn't Occulus Rift all about entertainment value?
How do you know what the vast majority do? Why would people buy an $800 smartphone to play games when they could buy a Nintendo 3DS?
I do all those things on my phone, and a few more like IRC, using project management apps, and music. The only thing I don't do a lot on my phone is take videos. I've taken some, just not often.
The iPhone is a multipurpose device. People use it to communicate, entertain, and help out with daily life tasks. It's certainly commonly used for much more than entertainment just based on the observation alone of how often people text.
According to some data I perused last year (when I was doing research before I bought my first smart phone), which I cannot remember what the source was, less than 13% of people use their smart phones for real productivity. Most use it to go online to entertain themselves. That does not mean that NO ONE uses productivity apps, but most do not. Beyond the basics of phone, texting and taking pictures, the most frequently used apps (at least Jan 2015) were Internet browsers, Facebook and Twitter. There was a HUGE drop to the next category, which was Youtube and such. Then was another HUGE drop to down below 20% were things like home security, online banking and GPS.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
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'people not rushing out to buy these things'?
really?
pretty much anything the consumer can technically do right now is showing the industry that its selling out. There arent lines at the store because you cant buy them at the store yet. sell out after sell out after sell out after sell out.
no games that arent school projects?
you seriously think you have a better pulse on the consumer market place and what they might like then Samsung, HTC, Disney, Valve, Facebook, Google, Sony or Microsoft just to name a few of the big hitters? really? what magic juice is that?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Now I'll wait until it's a more affordable package overall. Lower prices for the tech, and some smash-hit games on offer. Both of those requirements will be met, just most probably not this year and possibly not the next either.
That isn't much more than my cell phone, although because of the way the weight is carried is will seem a little heavier than clipping a cell phone to your forehead. But definitely not like a glazed ham!
Sorry to say, but with the requirement to get the proper separation from your eyes to allow VR image blending, these headsets are unlikely to get much narrower.
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Holographic projectors won't be coming to a Best Buy anytime soon, unlikely within our lifespans. So this VR gear, or something similar, is likely the best we are going to get.
The price may seem steep, but it is less than what an iPhone 6S costs. I am much more concerned about the PC cost. I built my current PC a little less than 4 years ago, and it handles modern games very well. I maintain framerates over 50 in ESO with the graphics on max. But the only thing in my PC that meets the specs are my SSD and memory, 16GB. I will need to upgrade the CPU (I have an i5-3470; calls for an i5-4590) and the video card (AMD 7870 w/ 4GB; requires a R9-290 or a GTX 970 or higher). Upgrading the CPU will require a new motherboard, so now I need to build a whole new system. So the cost is going to be very high for me...
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
Especially not $700.
And I'm certainly not spending $400 on a GPU just to make uncertain technology work. It is their job to make the product accessible, not mine. If the average PC isn't fast enough, that's on them.
1. I am responding the the comment that people are not RIGHT NOT runnning out to buy them which clearly they are.
2. I gave 4 examples of ONE technology that has sold out.
just to help you out a bit there is a difference in 4 sell outs in a row and 1
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Not getting one around release, because of the lack of games.
Regardless, I'll have to try one before deciding. I got the VR thingy for the Samsung S6, and it's extremely uncomfortable to wear, the nose hurts like hell after just a few minutes, and it can't be adjusted to avoid it. If the oculus is similar, it's a no-buy regardless of the rest.
again read this carefully please:
The claim was 'people are not running out RIGHT NOW to buy this thing'
I am saying that in anyway that the customer is able to buy it, its 'running out to buy it' I am not sure what 'running out to buy it' means but I am taking guess that a sell out of DK1, GearVR |Innovative edition, Gear VR consumer edition, Oculus pre-order CV1, and Sony VR is a pretty good indicator that the buyers are actualllyl trying to 'run out and buy them'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
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why does it even remotely matter to the point of 'RUNNING OUT TO BUY THEM RIGHT NOW'?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
A phone allows you to
-call
-bank
-take pictures
-take video
-go online
-write email
-do GPS
-tether wireless internet to your PC
etc
what does VR do except give you a stereo image or make you throw up?
I've just spent over $2000 putting together a new gaming PC, my previous was over 4 years old. I certainly won't be splashing out another $500 to $600 for a first gen VR headset with a severely limited game selection.
I can easily justify the $700 for my 980 Ti, but I couldn't justify the same for a VR headset. In a year or two the value will most likely look much better, and my GPU will be able to drive it already.
iPhone didnt havce bank apps when it first came out. Stop being desperate here there is no need to
how many games did first Xbox have a week BEFORE release?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
exactly what evidence is one looking for when they say 'people are not running out and buying these things'
when 5...not 1....5 of them have solld out. Dk1, GearVR innovative, gearvr consumer, CV1 pre-order and Sony
when one makes a statement like 'people are not running out and buying these things' one would assume there is some datapoint in the universe to kinda sorta maybe suggest that this statement istrue
the future success of VR is clearly open for debate and i have no issue with such conversatsions but there is no evidence that I am aware of to suggest at this time that people are 'not running out and buying these things'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
In other words, they get them for their entertainment value.
Isn't Occulus Rift all about entertainment value?
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
Having said that if I could go back to 2005 I am willing to bet you that most people here pew pewed the innovation of $500 smart phones then too
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!