I'm glad so many like this game. I'm also glad they have a 2 week refund policy. Have fun all. Back to ESO I go.
Hun fun being told what to do by npc's...all the time.
It doesn't look like you really played this game, you level faster by not doing any quest or speaking to any NPC. Quests are an an afterthought in this game, they are not necessary to enjoy the game, which has much more to offer than that.
Your first argument is that of a style preference then, not a matter of one or the other being better.
Your attire option is apparently of things being "silly", but you chose to use skimpy as the descriptor. Though again, not all the classes use outfits with heels on them. Sorceress is very intentionally the more bait type design, Valk it varies on outfit alongside archer, and witch/tamer wear flat shoes (karlstein armor being the exception as it's a universal armor).
There are multiple audio sliders to tone down certain parts of the audio, so yes.
ESO's interact system was remarkably shallow and TSW was similarly window boxes to generally spam your way through, they are not good examples in either case of good interaction. Ironically, SWTOR would probably stand as one of the better examples with dialogue having regular delivery of choice and action/reaction tied to the dialogue (and even there it's normal to spam your way through everything).
Why I called your post misinformation is that you presented an opinion without any qualification that what you were saying about the content wasn't necessarily true in an objective context.
If it were written in the context of "you didn't like the graphic style, that the closes were too ridiculous, that you dialogue wasn't interesting, etc" then all is well and good.
But that's not what was written, you made an accusation about what the game is and does in a context that made it look like an objective value of the game.
Whether or not I like the game is irrelevant to that point. I can make plenty of criticism myself about any game, but I remain intent on dividing my opinions from any objective statement of a game's features.
EDIT: For example, if you asked me what my favored graphic style is I actually prefer a more stylized one rather than the art direction they took in BDO. That doesn't make the graphics in the game worse, that just means I don't like it as much.
Or for example how I can say EVE is/was a well designed game, even though I have never liked it.
The idea that someone can dislike a game that other's like isn't an unnatural or disagreeable one. Different people like different things. The complaint comes from the mistake of saying something in an objective context without an objective reason.
Serioussly ..I get the feeling you understand to the fullest what I try to say, yet you wrote a 10 page essay trying to explain something about something I wrote. By making diffrent examples about this or that.
Some folks does NOT like BDO. I am one of them..Sorry your 10 page essay won't make me change my mind about it or even the adjustable sliders, since when playing a game I rather play a game with all sounds and effects on, not turn things off.
Skimpy , Silly , stupid, unpractical ..You name it..the dresses are all of it ..(according to me). I haven't tried all the classes yet ..so I can't comment on all of them but Im very sure It won't make me play the game.
Also..The characther creator that is rather good has it's limits aswell, since each class is gender/race locked you can't really create the characther you like at all in this game.
I was fooled to jump in on this game trough videos like this one , Ohh It's so good looking etc etc , what I found was just Another asian game with almost Everything mediocre or simply bad. BDO is a cheap game trying to sell itself with a somewhat highend Graphics Engine (for an MMO) but thats it, maybe they also try to sell it with that characther creator and that it is a "sandbox game" ..It may have great such sandbox features , I will never know because the initial play was so damn horrible I coudnt stand It.
A wanted a great sanbox game, It was a loingtime since I played one that really cought my attention, like Star Wars GAlaxies or Ultima Online but this one is just to damn silly for my tastes. Sorry ..
I'm glad so many like this game. I'm also glad they have a 2 week refund policy. Have fun all. Back to ESO I go.
Hun fun being told what to do by npc's...all the time.
It doesn't look like you really played this game, you level faster by not doing any quest or speaking to any NPC. Quests are an an afterthought in this game, they are not necessary to enjoy the game, which has much more to offer than that.
You're free to dislike BDO. You're free to have many reason and aspects in the game you dislike BDO. I do not aim to say your opinions are wrong nor do I aim to convince you to play the game.
What I do aim to do it correct things when they make an objective assertion that is false.
Hence now your shift to addressing things from a more personal perspective that to your tastes something like the costumes are unappealing. The admission that you're going off reaction and not deep user experience is appreciated too, but not quite the same.
An example again of what I argue against would be your jab at it being a "cheap game" without any actual/objective qualifiers for such a claim. If you reference the variety in the combat combo mechanics, crafting, resource gathering/farming, pvp, node management, and slated content progression that's being ported over (a good chunk of which is scheduled coming at the end of this month) then there is quite a lot that the developers have invested their time and effort into delivering for users to enjoy.
If you don't enjoy it, however, then you don't enjoy it and you might as well seek a different game with different gameplay. To offhand judge the quality and content of a game without giving a valid argument for the remark made is not a matter of opinion, however.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
It definitely sounds good. I may pick it up after WildStar and the urge to MMO again strikes me (and a good superhero MMO isn't coming out soon). In the mean time I may download the Black Desert character creator to make pictures of my D&D characters.
You're free to dislike BDO. You're free to have many reason and aspects in the game you dislike BDO. I do not aim to say your opinions are wrong nor do I aim to convince you to play the game.
What I do aim to do it correct things when they make an objective assertion that is false.
Hence now your shift to addressing things from a more personal perspective that to your tastes something like the costumes are unappealing. The admission that you're going off reaction and not deep user experience is appreciated too, but not quite the same.
An example again of what I argue against would be your jab at it being a "cheap game" without any actual/objective qualifiers for such a claim. If you reference the variety in the combat combo mechanics, crafting, resource gathering/farming, pvp, node management, and slated content progression that's being ported over (a good chunk of which is scheduled coming at the end of this month) then there is quite a lot that the developers have invested their time and effort into delivering for users to enjoy.
If you don't enjoy it, however, then you don't enjoy it and you might as well seek a different game with different gameplay. To offhand judge the quality and content of a game without giving a valid argument for the remark made is not a matter of opinion, however.
I feel like stepping in here just to make a comment. A lot of people do this, especially on this forum and I guess perhaps one big reason is due to mmorpgs being such a personal experience for people due to the time invested and the connection people can have with their character and the world. They talk more emotionally and from personal experience viewpoint rather than from an objective standpoint.
Hence why personally I do totally agree with Deivos. I think comments should never really be from personal user experience (unless specifically asked for or with acknowledgment of personal opinion) but should be objective.
Saying something is shit for example as if it is an absolute truth is going to just get people annoyed and it makes the person look stupid or as if they say it literally just to appease their own ego or to cause a fight. Saying something with objectivity or with a clarification that the comment is of ones own opinion is respectable and provides an avenue for debate rather than argument.
Started playing mmorpg's in 1996 and have been hooked ever since. It began with Kingdom of Drakkar, Ultima Online, Everquest, DAoC, WoW...
You're free to dislike BDO. You're free to have many reason and aspects in the game you dislike BDO. I do not aim to say your opinions are wrong nor do I aim to convince you to play the game.
What I do aim to do it correct things when they make an objective assertion that is false.
Hence now your shift to addressing things from a more personal perspective that to your tastes something like the costumes are unappealing. The admission that you're going off reaction and not deep user experience is appreciated too, but not quite the same.
An example again of what I argue against would be your jab at it being a "cheap game" without any actual/objective qualifiers for such a claim. If you reference the variety in the combat combo mechanics, crafting, resource gathering/farming, pvp, node management, and slated content progression that's being ported over (a good chunk of which is scheduled coming at the end of this month) then there is quite a lot that the developers have invested their time and effort into delivering for users to enjoy.
If you don't enjoy it, however, then you don't enjoy it and you might as well seek a different game with different gameplay. To offhand judge the quality and content of a game without giving a valid argument for the remark made is not a matter of opinion, however.
I feel like stepping in here just to make a comment. A lot of people do this, especially on this forum and I guess perhaps one big reason is due to mmorpgs being such a personal experience for people due to the time invested and the connection people can have with their character and the world. They talk more emotionally and from personal experience viewpoint rather than from an objective standpoint.
Hence why personally I do totally agree with Deivos. I think comments should never really be from personal user experience (unless specifically asked for or with acknowledgment of personal opinion) but should be objective.
Saying something is shit for example as if it is an absolute truth is going to just get people annoyed and it makes the person look stupid or as if they say it literally just to appease their own ego or to cause a fight. Saying something with objectivity or with a clarification that the comment is of ones own opinion is respectable and provides an avenue for debate rather than argument.
Well. your claims would be partly correct if this was a Review of the game , mine is more like an initial reflection I had while trying to play this game..Its my personal feelings towards this game ...Also..I am absolutly sure that NO Review can EVER be completly unbiased, a score will Always Point in some way towards the reviewers own reflection of the game. EA sometimes I like Angry Joe and Sometimes I Think hes off the charts with his complains and the same goes for TheHiveLeader.
This is a discussion forum and in such a forum you have the right to express YOUR OWN FEELINGS towards a game, Im NOT trying to make an unbiased Review of the game , Im just telling you MY PERSONAL feeling towards this game, and for me this is the TRUTH weather you like it or not. If anyone agrees with me or not doesn't really matter.
Also, If I would have reviewed this game I would have been forced to play this game much more than I did to be able to make an unbiased Review of every Component in this game, but I played it far to Little to make such a Review or claim.
So..I may be wrong in the Eyes of some players and I may be right in others, Im sure there is several that has the same feelings towards this game as I do, Infact I know several that agrees with me ...:)
You are free to express your feelings, that does not change the point that making a comment about the quality and content of the game as if it were an objective value when it's a purely opinion-driven one is very simply false.
For example the graphics thing. You don't like the graphics, but your argument was presented in the context that the graphics were objectively low quality, which is a false statement. The reality being that the graphics and production standard were in fact quite high, but the chosen style is not to your taste.
Same thing with the costumes and using words to describe them that for the most part are personal taste, but presented in a manner that suggested it was a universal truth for the game.
As said prior, you are free to have differing opinions and feelings about a games content. That does not make false claims about the content a valid argument or statement to make.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
I like the game, but my biggest complaint is that it's basically a single-player experience. I'm only in my mid 20's so far, but there has been no interaction with anyone else, at all. You can't trade with anyone, you can't give anyone anything, and the NPC's are extremely easy. There's been no reason to group up with anyone else.
It's like I'm playing a single-player game with a bunch of other single-players in the same world, no interaction needed or encouraged.
You are free to express your feelings, that does not change the point that making a comment about the quality and content of the game as if it were an objective value when it's a purely opinion-driven one is very simply false.
For example the graphics thing. You don't like the graphics, but your argument was presented in the context that the graphics were objectively low quality, which is a false statement. The reality being that the graphics and production standard were in fact quite high, but the chosen style is not to your taste.
Same thing with the costumes and using words to describe them that for the most part are personal taste, but presented in a manner that suggested it was a universal truth for the game.
As said prior, you are free to have differing opinions and feelings about a games content. That does not make false claims about the content a valid argument or statement to make.
Look..Dude..If you actually bothered to READ the VERY FIRST post I wrote there is a line that explains just the thing you try to convince everyone I did not.
Anyways ..Here is it again as a reminder..
"It may have newer graphical effects but that doesnt make it better looking"
Secondly..If you have bothered to read ANY of the answers I have provided you would also know that I actually do NOT give a shit what you say, because it's how I feel about this game and It's not false just a personal opinion..
You are free to express your feelings, that does not change the point that making a comment about the quality and content of the game as if it were an objective value when it's a purely opinion-driven one is very simply false.
For example the graphics thing. You don't like the graphics, but your argument was presented in the context that the graphics were objectively low quality, which is a false statement. The reality being that the graphics and production standard were in fact quite high, but the chosen style is not to your taste.
Same thing with the costumes and using words to describe them that for the most part are personal taste, but presented in a manner that suggested it was a universal truth for the game.
As said prior, you are free to have differing opinions and feelings about a games content. That does not make false claims about the content a valid argument or statement to make.
Look..Dude..If you actually bothered to READ the VERY FIRST post I wrote there is a line that explains just the thing you try to convince everyone I did not.
Anyways ..Here is it again as a reminder..
"It may have newer graphical effects but that doesnt make it better looking"
Secondly..If you have bothered to read ANY of the answers I have provided you would also know that I actually do NOT give a shit what you say, because it's how I feel about this game and It's not false just a personal opinion..
So now drop it..alright.
Don t bother. BDO lovers are blind about anything but how great their game is. We know better, but no point in telling them.
I like the game, but my biggest complaint is that it's basically a single-player experience. I'm only in my mid 20's so far, but there has been no interaction with anyone else, at all. You can't trade with anyone, you can't give anyone anything, and the NPC's are extremely easy. There's been no reason to group up with anyone else.
It's like I'm playing a single-player game with a bunch of other single-players in the same world, no interaction needed or encouraged.
you know you can make friends, you don't need a dungeon finder to do so. I found a guild, that we group all the time just for fun, we just go off in random directions killing everything, gathering everything. If you don't want to group don't blame the game.
btw Hive, best video ever loving BDO like that old school crack myself. Even watching that and I am only 24 so far, feels like you still left a crap load out for time.
Look..Dude..If you actually bothered to READ the VERY FIRST post I wrote there is a line that explains just the thing you try to convince everyone I did not.
Anyways ..Here is it again as a reminder..
"It may have newer graphical effects but that doesnt make it better looking"
Secondly..If you have bothered to read ANY of the answers I have provided you would also know that I actually do NOT give a shit what you say, because it's how I feel about this game and It's not false just a personal opinion..
So now drop it..alright.
You know that line you just quoted is an example of failure to divide opinion and fact.
"Better looking" is a general statement. The game has more than simply new graphical effects going into it's graphics and if you used any measurable level such as mesh detail, texture detail, environmental detail, sfx, or overall rendering, it mechanically is "better".
If you say you don't like the style, then you have a valid point an an actual opinion not mired in a skewed sense of judgement.
I read your first post again as a reaction to your claim, and I'll have to ask you point out where you made it clear that what you wrote was a matter of opinion and not factual statements.
What your first post does do is fire off three complaints, one of which was due to an unawareness of graphic settings while another is a complaint that something is bad without even explaining how, and the other being an assertion that it's visually worse than ESO/TSW and that there's a bunch of skimpy outfits.
The closest to saying anything was your opinion is the one time you put "IMO" before saying it's "not the best looking" is is an exceptionally vague statement and you failed to connect to anything else.
If you'd like to fix this so you are actually talking from a perspective of opinion that'd be great, but your original comment and your defense of it has not been, as you made arguments that stood on objective commentary about the game's content that can be seen as false.
I'm not actually a BDO lover. There is much about the game I don't like and aspects of the gameplay that I really don't care for (such as the 45+ open PvP, I prefer more stylized graphics, I don't like the way some of the classes combat mechanics work such as the archer, I despise the present dye system, and I don't enjoy the use of alts simply for building larger energy and contribution point pools).
However, I don't talk about my opinions most of the time. I generally deem my opinion unimportant as compared to providing clear and factual information.
When someone complains about or praises a game they are free espouse what they do and do not like. There is a major difference between saying one does/doesn't like something and defining something as "bad", "broken", "better/worse", etc.
It is very simply, misinformation.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Most korean developed games have these 'skimpy' outfits, I remember playing a female castanic warrior in Tera online, the outfits are imo very ermm 'appealing' lol
Don't feel bad... I'm always fawning over those weather effects! Those thunderstorms with those pretty lightning flashes...
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
You are free to express your feelings, that does not change the point that making a comment about the quality and content of the game as if it were an objective value when it's a purely opinion-driven one is very simply false.
For example the graphics thing. You don't like the graphics, but your argument was presented in the context that the graphics were objectively low quality, which is a false statement. The reality being that the graphics and production standard were in fact quite high, but the chosen style is not to your taste.
Same thing with the costumes and using words to describe them that for the most part are personal taste, but presented in a manner that suggested it was a universal truth for the game.
As said prior, you are free to have differing opinions and feelings about a games content. That does not make false claims about the content a valid argument or statement to make.
Look..Dude..If you actually bothered to READ the VERY FIRST post I wrote there is a line that explains just the thing you try to convince everyone I did not.
Anyways ..Here is it again as a reminder..
"It may have newer graphical effects but that doesnt make it better looking"
Secondly..If you have bothered to read ANY of the answers I have provided you would also know that I actually do NOT give a shit what you say, because it's how I feel about this game and It's not false just a personal opinion..
So now drop it..alright.
Not all opinions are equally valid, some are logical, and well informed while others are based on emotion or ignorance.
The initial OP comes across as more of the latter.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Is this sandbox? Energy regardless how fast it refills does limit what you can do when.
Market prices are determined by the game (or by something which limits your ability to sell for how much you want)
You cannot trade.
Everyones definition of sandbox will differ to some degree, but these 3 in my definition are quite contrary to a sandbox.
btw Hive, best video ever loving BDO like that old school crack myself. Even watching that and I am only 24 so far, feels like you still left a crap load out for time.
Oh yeah. I left out a LOT of stuff still. Really just tried to cover the essentials.
So how akin is this energy system to AA's labor system? Sounds like the same thing to me but with a different name.
Energy system is different in that your energy pool starts small and can get bigger as you level up/do quests and stuff. It regenerates faster and since there's no sub it regenerates consistently online and offline.
It's a way to enforce growth in player activities by letting their capacity to do energy-intensive things increase as they play as well as a means to mitigate players spamming certain activities (like energy is actually tied to channel chat, so people who spam the chat alot are also consuming all their energy).
Also as said in the video, energy regens pretty quickly while laying in a bed. At about 3x the normal rate.
All your toons on one server share the same max energy amount. Not the actual pool itself. So if you increase your pool on your main you can make a brand new toon and it will share the increased engergy pool. You don't start from scratch. So you make alts to have extra characters to spend energy with. Its like having a back up batteries in reserve. It is similiar to AA labor points but far better execution and player friendly. You aren't constantly chasing labor pots on the auction house or the monthly potion sale from a cash shop like Archeage.
My two cents on it and hopefully some helpful info.
Look..Dude..If you actually bothered to READ the VERY FIRST post I wrote there is a line that explains just the thing you try to convince everyone I did not.
Anyways ..Here is it again as a reminder..
"It may have newer graphical effects but that doesnt make it better looking"
Secondly..If you have bothered to read ANY of the answers I have provided you would also know that I actually do NOT give a shit what you say, because it's how I feel about this game and It's not false just a personal opinion..
So now drop it..alright.
You know that line you just quoted is an example of failure to divide opinion and fact.
"Better looking" is a general statement. The game has more than simply new graphical effects going into it's graphics and if you used any measurable level such as mesh detail, texture detail, environmental detail, sfx, or overall rendering, it mechanically is "better".
If you say you don't like the style, then you have a valid point an an actual opinion not mired in a skewed sense of judgement.
I read your first post again as a reaction to your claim, and I'll have to ask you point out where you made it clear that what you wrote was a matter of opinion and not factual statements.
What your first post does do is fire off three complaints, one of which was due to an unawareness of graphic settings while another is a complaint that something is bad without even explaining how, and the other being an assertion that it's visually worse than ESO/TSW and that there's a bunch of skimpy outfits.
The closest to saying anything was your opinion is the one time you put "IMO" before saying it's "not the best looking" is is an exceptionally vague statement and you failed to connect to anything else.
If you'd like to fix this so you are actually talking from a perspective of opinion that'd be great, but your original comment and your defense of it has not been, as you made arguments that stood on objective commentary about the game's content that can be seen as false.
I'm not actually a BDO lover. There is much about the game I don't like and aspects of the gameplay that I really don't care for (such as the 45+ open PvP, I prefer more stylized graphics, I don't like the way some of the classes combat mechanics work such as the archer, I despise the present dye system, and I don't enjoy the use of alts simply for building larger energy and contribution point pools).
However, I don't talk about my opinions most of the time. I generally deem my opinion unimportant as compared to providing clear and factual information.
When someone complains about or praises a game they are free espouse what they do and do not like. There is a major difference between saying one does/doesn't like something and defining something as "bad", "broken", "better/worse", etc.
It is very simply, misinformation.
/sigh ...
I can atleast admire you for your dedication to this game, you must truly like it..Good for you
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Serioussly ..I get the feeling you understand to the fullest what I try to say, yet you wrote a 10 page essay trying to explain something about something I wrote. By making diffrent examples about this or that.
Some folks does NOT like BDO. I am one of them..Sorry your 10 page essay won't make me change my mind about it or even the adjustable sliders, since when playing a game I rather play a game with all sounds and effects on, not turn things off.
Skimpy , Silly , stupid, unpractical ..You name it..the dresses are all of it ..(according to me). I haven't tried all the classes yet ..so I can't comment on all of them but Im very sure It won't make me play the game.
Also..The characther creator that is rather good has it's limits aswell, since each class is gender/race locked you can't really create the characther you like at all in this game.
I was fooled to jump in on this game trough videos like this one , Ohh It's so good looking etc etc , what I found was just Another asian game with almost Everything mediocre or simply bad. BDO is a cheap game trying to sell itself with a somewhat highend Graphics Engine (for an MMO) but thats it, maybe they also try to sell it with that characther creator and that it is a "sandbox game" ..It may have great such sandbox features , I will never know because the initial play was so damn horrible I coudnt stand It.
A wanted a great sanbox game, It was a loingtime since I played one that really cought my attention, like Star Wars GAlaxies or Ultima Online but this one is just to damn silly for my tastes. Sorry ..
It looks like I need a pair of glasses lol.
Sorry @Mardukk
You're free to dislike BDO. You're free to have many reason and aspects in the game you dislike BDO. I do not aim to say your opinions are wrong nor do I aim to convince you to play the game.
What I do aim to do it correct things when they make an objective assertion that is false.
Hence now your shift to addressing things from a more personal perspective that to your tastes something like the costumes are unappealing. The admission that you're going off reaction and not deep user experience is appreciated too, but not quite the same.
An example again of what I argue against would be your jab at it being a "cheap game" without any actual/objective qualifiers for such a claim. If you reference the variety in the combat combo mechanics, crafting, resource gathering/farming, pvp, node management, and slated content progression that's being ported over (a good chunk of which is scheduled coming at the end of this month) then there is quite a lot that the developers have invested their time and effort into delivering for users to enjoy.
If you don't enjoy it, however, then you don't enjoy it and you might as well seek a different game with different gameplay. To offhand judge the quality and content of a game without giving a valid argument for the remark made is not a matter of opinion, however.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
It's all good ste2000.
I feel like stepping in here just to make a comment. A lot of people do this, especially on this forum and I guess perhaps one big reason is due to mmorpgs being such a personal experience for people due to the time invested and the connection people can have with their character and the world. They talk more emotionally and from personal experience viewpoint rather than from an objective standpoint.
Hence why personally I do totally agree with Deivos. I think comments should never really be from personal user experience (unless specifically asked for or with acknowledgment of personal opinion) but should be objective.
Saying something is shit for example as if it is an absolute truth is going to just get people annoyed and it makes the person look stupid or as if they say it literally just to appease their own ego or to cause a fight. Saying something with objectivity or with a clarification that the comment is of ones own opinion is respectable and provides an avenue for debate rather than argument.
Well. your claims would be partly correct if this was a Review of the game , mine is more like an initial reflection I had while trying to play this game..Its my personal feelings towards this game ...Also..I am absolutly sure that NO Review can EVER be completly unbiased, a score will Always Point in some way towards the reviewers own reflection of the game. EA sometimes I like Angry Joe and Sometimes I Think hes off the charts with his complains and the same goes for TheHiveLeader.
This is a discussion forum and in such a forum you have the right to express YOUR OWN FEELINGS towards a game, Im NOT trying to make an unbiased Review of the game , Im just telling you MY PERSONAL feeling towards this game, and for me this is the TRUTH weather you like it or not. If anyone agrees with me or not doesn't really matter.
Also, If I would have reviewed this game I would have been forced to play this game much more than I did to be able to make an unbiased Review of every Component in this game, but I played it far to Little to make such a Review or claim.
So..I may be wrong in the Eyes of some players and I may be right in others, Im sure there is several that has the same feelings towards this game as I do, Infact I know several that agrees with me ...:)
For example the graphics thing. You don't like the graphics, but your argument was presented in the context that the graphics were objectively low quality, which is a false statement. The reality being that the graphics and production standard were in fact quite high, but the chosen style is not to your taste.
Same thing with the costumes and using words to describe them that for the most part are personal taste, but presented in a manner that suggested it was a universal truth for the game.
As said prior, you are free to have differing opinions and feelings about a games content. That does not make false claims about the content a valid argument or statement to make.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
It's like I'm playing a single-player game with a bunch of other single-players in the same world, no interaction needed or encouraged.
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Look..Dude..If you actually bothered to READ the VERY FIRST post I wrote there is a line that explains just the thing you try to convince everyone I did not.
Anyways ..Here is it again as a reminder..
"It may have newer graphical effects but that doesnt make it better looking"
Secondly..If you have bothered to read ANY of the answers I have provided you would also know that I actually do NOT give a shit what you say, because it's how I feel about this game and It's not false just a personal opinion..
So now drop it..alright.
Don t bother. BDO lovers are blind about anything but how great their game is. We know better, but no point in telling them.
you know you can make friends, you don't need a dungeon finder to do so. I found a guild, that we group all the time just for fun, we just go off in random directions killing everything, gathering everything. If you don't want to group don't blame the game.
"Better looking" is a general statement. The game has more than simply new graphical effects going into it's graphics and if you used any measurable level such as mesh detail, texture detail, environmental detail, sfx, or overall rendering, it mechanically is "better".
If you say you don't like the style, then you have a valid point an an actual opinion not mired in a skewed sense of judgement.
I read your first post again as a reaction to your claim, and I'll have to ask you point out where you made it clear that what you wrote was a matter of opinion and not factual statements.
What your first post does do is fire off three complaints, one of which was due to an unawareness of graphic settings while another is a complaint that something is bad without even explaining how, and the other being an assertion that it's visually worse than ESO/TSW and that there's a bunch of skimpy outfits.
The closest to saying anything was your opinion is the one time you put "IMO" before saying it's "not the best looking" is is an exceptionally vague statement and you failed to connect to anything else.
If you'd like to fix this so you are actually talking from a perspective of opinion that'd be great, but your original comment and your defense of it has not been, as you made arguments that stood on objective commentary about the game's content that can be seen as false.
As for @Soki123 ;
I'm not actually a BDO lover. There is much about the game I don't like and aspects of the gameplay that I really don't care for (such as the 45+ open PvP, I prefer more stylized graphics, I don't like the way some of the classes combat mechanics work such as the archer, I despise the present dye system, and I don't enjoy the use of alts simply for building larger energy and contribution point pools).
However, I don't talk about my opinions most of the time. I generally deem my opinion unimportant as compared to providing clear and factual information.
When someone complains about or praises a game they are free espouse what they do and do not like. There is a major difference between saying one does/doesn't like something and defining something as "bad", "broken", "better/worse", etc.
It is very simply, misinformation.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
Those thunderstorms with those pretty lightning flashes...
My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/
The initial OP comes across as more of the latter.
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Market prices are determined by the game (or by something which limits your ability to sell for how much you want)
You cannot trade.
Everyones definition of sandbox will differ to some degree, but these 3 in my definition are quite contrary to a sandbox.
Oh yeah. I left out a LOT of stuff still. Really just tried to cover the essentials.
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All your toons on one server share the same max energy amount. Not the actual pool itself. So if you increase your pool on your main you can make a brand new toon and it will share the increased engergy pool. You don't start from scratch. So you make alts to have extra characters to spend energy with. Its like having a back up batteries in reserve. It is similiar to AA labor points but far better execution and player friendly. You aren't constantly chasing labor pots on the auction house or the monthly potion sale from a cash shop like Archeage.
My two cents on it and hopefully some helpful info.
/sigh ...
I can atleast admire you for your dedication to this game, you must truly like it..Good for you
Good luck in BDO
/Thark