'MISC Prospector' Concept Ship

SmartySmart

rodarin said:

Talonsin said:

rodarin said:

 

OK so 34 of 105 ships are flyable. 68% arent.

Are you including all the variants?  The Mustang has 3 variants with a bit of stat changes so I dont think those should count since it only requires a slight modification from the base model.

yeah I commented on that further down in the post. I dont know how many 'skeletons' there are. I just counted blue boxes in the 'flyable' column.

But there are 105 ships listed how many of those are unique I dont know. I am sure someone can count them. I do know several of them do have simply different skins, which obviously means those ones are no where near as difficult to produce as an unflyable one with a different skeleton. I mentioned it all before I just didnt link all that stuff which is a cardinal sin, but its always funny when they DO link something it makes THEIR argument worse somehow.

CrazKanuk

MisterZebub said:

Erillion said:

Last number was around 300 people in the Development Team - about 15 % of them from subcontractors like Turbulent. 170 of the team  in UK.  

That is up from 266 late last year. 


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And that number doesn't even include the "super duper secret shadow sites" where they have hundreds of workers chained up in the basement and pay them with bread, water, and on Sundays, thin gruel made from their fallen coworkers. Which of course Chris Roberts oversees from his secret volcano lair.

Ridiculous? Of course, but hey if people are just going to make shit up about CIG then we might as well make it entertaining right?

Pay them? What? Are you serious? Do you think CIG is made of money? 

Adjuvant1

Erillion said:

Last number was around 300 people in the Development Team - about 15 % of them from subcontractors like Turbulent. 170 of the team  in UK.  

That is up from 266 late last year. 


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Only about 80-85 of those are "full time". Last I saw an official number was mid 2015, that number was 80, a few of those left, got replaced, "a few more than 80" is best educated guess.

The other 200+ however many are not full time, and some might be independent contractors, as graphic artists, some don't even work "on the projects", but are business roles. If you're going to cite this "300" number, I'd very much like a current breakdown who all this entails.

Just kinda tired seeing this 300 300 300, but it means nothing, just a floating number, because we know less than a 3rd are full time positions.

filmoret

They got 20 engineer jobs open right now.  They go back as far as Feb of 2015...   I wonder what the deal with that is.

19 artist jobs and one of those has been open since 2014.

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filmoret said:

They got 20 engineer jobs open right now.  They go back as far as Feb of 2015...   I wonder what the deal with that is.

19 artist jobs and one of those has been open since 2014.

Well, some of those are probably reposts. No game has 20+ engineers. Most larger projects have 8-10. Roberts said in last week's 10ftc they were hurting for engineers, but it doesn't mean the ones they have are great, considering as they can't seem to find more, they do with what they have.

I just get the impression the "nucleus" of this personnel list is really weak. Spouting 300! 300! is more of a damning implication that you can hire 280 of the wrong people to get something done.

filmoret

Adjuvant1 said:

filmoret said:

They got 20 engineer jobs open right now.  They go back as far as Feb of 2015...   I wonder what the deal with that is.

19 artist jobs and one of those has been open since 2014.

Well, some of those are probably reposts. No game has 20+ engineers. Most larger projects have 8-10. Roberts said in last week's 10ftc they were hurting for engineers, but it doesn't mean the ones they have are great, considering as they can't seem to find more, they do with what they have.

I just get the impression the "nucleus" of this personnel list is really weak. Spouting 300! 300! is more of a damning implication that you can hire 280 of the wrong people to get something done.

Its current job openings.  Right on CIG website click on careers.

adamlotus75

If the finances are so rosy why are they selling ships that cost the same price as about 3 AAA 'evil big publisher games'..?

fir the price of their latest back-of-a-cigarette-packet sketch of a small mining ship you could buy:

No Mans Sky
Witcher 3
AND
Doom 4

its a fecking computer game this is ridiculous.

Brenics

adamlotus75 said:

If the finances are so rosy why are they selling ships that cost the same price as about 3 AAA 'evil big publisher games'..?

fir the price of their latest back-of-a-cigarette-packet sketch of a small mining ship you could buy:

No Mans Sky
Witcher 3
AND
Doom 4

its a fecking computer game this is ridiculous.

Plus all those games would be deluxe editions

Kefo

adamlotus75 said:

If the finances are so rosy why are they selling ships that cost the same price as about 3 AAA 'evil big publisher games'..?

fir the price of their latest back-of-a-cigarette-packet sketch of a small mining ship you could buy:

No Mans Sky
Witcher 3
AND
Doom 4

its a fecking computer game this is ridiculous.

I'll save Erillion the time of copy pasting his usual response and paraphrase for him.
"you are helping to build THE game by voluntarily giving them money. No one holds a gun to your head."

It doesn't make sense to your question because that's how he avoids the hard questions

goobsnews

Did they add mining to the game yet? Did they add a game to the game yet?

Deathenger

^^ That video deserves its own thread!!!!!!!!

adamlotus75

If you reverse (the verse) financial equation and say 'OK, you need $110m to create this game' - where the hell did CR think this money was going to come from??  You can only really bank on people backing for the price of the box and CD, did he really think it would take an army of whales dropping 10s of 1000s of dollars to get over the line..?

If you took that business plan to a bank to get funding they would think you were either on drugs or had never run a game development project. CR is so so lucky that the high rollers have been bailing him out for this long.

Brenics

adamlotus75 said:

If you reverse (the verse) financial equation and say 'OK, you need $110m to create this game' - where the hell did CR think this money was going to come from??  You can only really bank on people backing for the price of the box and CD, did he really think it would take an army of whales dropping 10s of 1000s of dollars to get over the line..?

If you took that business plan to a bank to get funding they would think you were either on drugs or had never run a game development project. CR is so so lucky that the high rollers have been bailing him out for this long.

Which is why they are in trouble right now. They can't get any investors to help them make the game. So you are 100% correct @adamlotus75 but it really isn't just the banks. Investors take one look at how much they got from backers, look at what they done so far and I bet leave laughing. 

goobsnews

Brenics said:

adamlotus75 said:

If you reverse (the verse) financial equation and say 'OK, you need $110m to create this game' - where the hell did CR think this money was going to come from??  You can only really bank on people backing for the price of the box and CD, did he really think it would take an army of whales dropping 10s of 1000s of dollars to get over the line..?

If you took that business plan to a bank to get funding they would think you were either on drugs or had never run a game development project. CR is so so lucky that the high rollers have been bailing him out for this long.

Which is why they are in trouble right now. They can't get any investors to help them make the game. So you are 100% correct @adamlotus75 but it really isn't just the banks. Investors take one look at how much they got from backers, look at what they done so far and I bet leave laughing. 

they had investors, i know at least one that pulled out his large sum of money when the escapist article came out.

GeezerGamer

Pfft, what a ridiculous idea.....who in there right minds would ever pay hundreds of dollars for pictures of spaceships in a game that hasn't even been developed yet?

It'll never happen, nobody's that gullible, right?

goobsnews

GeezerGamer said:

Pfft, what a ridiculous idea.....who in there right minds would ever pay hundreds of dollars for pictures of spaceships in a game that hasn't even been developed yet?

It'll never happen, nobody's that gullible, right?

you're right, not hundreds.....thousands.

H0urg1ass

I simply can't wait to get in a mining ship, mine all the ore I need, refine the ore, build ship components with the refined ore, then build ships with the components.

Then I'm gonna sell all of those ships, components and ammo and carve out a nice piece of the completely player driven market in this sandbox game.

I also can't wait to see the thousands of different skills that will be available to train and master in order to build the thousands of different ship components, rigs, subsystems... basically everything in the game world. 

adamlotus75

That's EVE Hourglass :-) this will be nothing like that apparently.

Adjuvant1

It's funny that actual "alpha" interstellar flight might be launched before this project gets out of alpha. That's unless you go by CIG's qualifications of an alpha, which would mean interstellar flight was in alpha 110 years ago.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/science/alpha-centauri-breakthrough-starshot-yuri-milner-stephen-hawking.html?_r=0

H0urg1ass

adamlotus75 said:

That's EVE Hourglass :-) this will be nothing like that apparently.

But... but... it's an open world sandbox.  I'm shocked!  Shocked I tell you, to find out that I won't be able to control a crafting empire in this open world sandbox game!

Erillion

Thank you for the link to NY Times. 


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adamlotus75

Because of the tech they have chosen it's a room based FPS shooter where sometimes you are wearing a constume that looks like a ship :-)

im guessing they have not a fricking clue how mining, refining, production, all star stuff will work.  If they did they would be telling us something....

Instead we get CR saying 'umm... Probably this and that.... I imagine it will do the other thing... Did you see that movie with mining in it? No not the one about the dudes trapped in the mine... Although! That was kind of cool... Yeah... You could get ummm trapped in a Vanduul mine and have to ummm DIG to find the exit or umm use BOMBS to blow a hole in the ceiling...'

sound familiar anyone?

Erillion

Seems you have missed the in depth look at mining article on the official homepage. Or the in depth look at the "Orion" multiplayer mining ship. 


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Turrican187

adamlotus75 said:

Because of the tech they have chosen it's a room based FPS shooter where sometimes you are wearing a constume that looks like a ship :-)
[...]

I prefer the "...where sometimes you become an elevator that looks like a ship"

Erillion

Ah, here are the links to mining and the Orion:


https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14522-Star-Citizen-Careers-Mining

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14518-Rugged-Colossus-Orion-Mining-Platform

I guess the single pilot MISC Prospector will use a highly automated and less efficient version of this mining procedure.

Here is what you can do with the mined materials:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/13128-The-Star-Citizen-Economy

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/15062-Ship-Repair-And-Maintenance


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