@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
you are sooooooooo right! I mean the level cap raise, new story content, new flashpoints and recent new PvP battle grounds were all in the cash shop!. . .
@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
I would agree...except these items like almost all items from the cm can be purchased on the GTN.
i wish they stopped being so greedy with everything new they implement. just because you're a f2p game doesn't mean you have to tie every new thing to cash shop or sub.
Greed is a two way street, if people were actually willing to pay for their entertainment, we might not be where we are today with cash-shops and F2P systems. In the end who's truly greedy, the party who puts in the work, makes a product and sells it, or the person who expects it for free?
i usually only play games with a sub.. but these guys go overboard with it. if they want to push for subs as they do that is fine.. but to then go and put everything cool they make in gambling boxes just makes them look like assholes tbh.
Except you won't have to buy them in the CM you can wait two days and buy them on the AH. Credits are not hard to come buy in this game.
still someone has to take that gamble for you to be able to buy it of the GTN.
And some people don't mind or even enjoy doing it, what's it to you how people spend their own money? If you don't want to like I said wait two days.
it's a predatory way of getting cash which most people dont approve of and it usually targets people who are prone to addiction. you should be able to pick out the stuff you wish to spend real cash on. they can still have gambling boxes for those that really really like it though(box o' random toys etc.).. but they should not be the main source to get the new items.
I always love when people try to claim they know how "most people feel". Do you have a link to back up your knowledge of how "most" people feel. Again a person does not have an addiction because they spend money on a hobby that absolutely ignorant to say. People spend a lot more money on season tickets to a sporting event, a hobby of fixing cars, a hobby collecting junk. I don't understand how people like you think you can judge someone spending $25, $100 or even $1000 extra on a hobby they enjoy. And say they have issues because of it. No offense but I think people like you who worry about how others send their money are the ones with issues.
Again they are not the main source, the AH will be littered with them two days later.
they're not after hobbyists they're after those who cant stop them selves from spending money to get what they want...
Yeah just like those who can't stop complaining on A random website about a video game they don't play...
@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
I would agree...except these items like almost all items from the cm can be purchased on the GTN.
I can agree with that, however it does need to be purchased by someone. Which makes my point valid still.
I would like to address @sayuu ; : I understand that content has been added, however that took a long time to come AND while not in the cash shop, did require you to be a subscriber. SWTOR has placed a lot of stuff in those drop boxes.... that is my real problem. I do not hate on anyone playing, I am just trying to avoid cash shop games these days, and I am sad that MMO gaming has gone this way.
@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
I would agree...except these items like almost all items from the cm can be purchased on the GTN.
I can agree with that, however it does need to be purchased by someone. Which makes my point valid still.
I would like to address @sayuu ; : I understand that content has been added, however that took a long time to come AND while not in the cash shop, did require you to be a subscriber. SWTOR has placed a lot of stuff in those drop boxes.... that is my real problem. I do not hate on anyone playing, I am just trying to avoid cash shop games these days, and I am sad that MMO gaming has gone this way.
It could happen that someone with spare currency built up from having a sub, can aquire it from the "cash shop" then drop it on the GTN for someone to buy, and no real money was put down beyond the normal sub they would have put down anyway. That could happen.
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@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
I would agree...except these items like almost all items from the cm can be purchased on the GTN.
I can agree with that, however it does need to be purchased by someone. Which makes my point valid still.
True but some people enjoy buying the boxes it's not up to us to decide what others spend their money on. Some save up their monthly CC gift so it actually doesn't cost them any real money.
The CM in swtor is only a major focus if you choose to make it a focus. I haven't spent a dime on the CM in about two years. I save up a stash of CC then purchase a few boxes to stock up on credits and keep an item or two.
@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
I would agree...except these items like almost all items from the cm can be purchased on the GTN.
I can agree with that, however it does need to be purchased by someone. Which makes my point valid still.
I would like to address @sayuu ; : I understand that content has been added, however that took a long time to come AND while not in the cash shop, did require you to be a subscriber. SWTOR has placed a lot of stuff in those drop boxes.... that is my real problem. I do not hate on anyone playing, I am just trying to avoid cash shop games these days, and I am sad that MMO gaming has gone this way.
ok, first off: what exactly took "a long time to come" with KotFE? the level cap raise? the story content? the Starfortress flashpoints? they only thing that might fit that criteria is the new PvP stuff
Secondly: what about the revamp to leveling? the re-balancing of Heroic missions? the revamp to the Companion System? the revamp to crafting, the retooling of flashpoints? or the level sync to zone system? did they make you Sub for any of that?
It's just a visual thing, i dont mind it at all. I dont even mind the fact that most new stuff is from rng boxes. What i mind most is the feeling that EA/Bioware care more about the CM than they do about their MMO. I mean nearly everything new in 4.0 has been solo, only new groupthing is starforge, and from what i hear that's kinda boring after you've done it the first time.
I know we just had a new warzone added, from what i hear a very bugged warzone, and it's good that pvp'ers gets something new, allthough i think what they wanted most of all was something done to pvp balancing. It's been pretty bad since 3.0.
I'd like to get a new dayli area, a moon or an addition to an old planet. something you can do with friends. I'd prefer some new FP's or worldbosses or interesting new conquest objectives you need to do as a group.
I miss the time when the empire was the enemy instead of now where were all friends.
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
@Tasslehoff35 I think the problem here is not that other people are spending money on it... it is more that developers are going out of their way to put more lock-box content in. It comes off as disingenuous when you are putting the majority of content in a cash shop in a game with a subscription.
I personally don't care what people spend on a game, I do however stop playing games when cash shop becomes a major focus... like SWTOR. I do miss the game though.
Nothing in the cash shop is needed. So many gamers don't want to pay to play games. So games need to find ways to keep the lights on. SWToR gives optional ways to fund the game. Play it or dont, this is a fair cash shop where you look at other games out there like BD. SWToR has lots of free content, play it or sub and get free CC for the cash shop.
i wish they stopped being so greedy with everything new they implement. just because you're a f2p game doesn't mean you have to tie every new thing to cash shop or sub.
Greed is a two way street, if people were actually willing to pay for their entertainment, we might not be where we are today with cash-shops and F2P systems. In the end who's truly greedy, the party who puts in the work, makes a product and sells it, or the person who expects it for free?
i usually only play games with a sub.. but these guys go overboard with it. if they want to push for subs as they do that is fine.. but to then go and put everything cool they make in gambling boxes just makes them look like assholes tbh.
And this game is a joke with f2p. For me it works because i don't care about anything in this game but the class stories. I do spend money in the store once in awhile though.
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
did you know that SWTOR is not canon?
Hasn't been for a while.
so while you can have the opinion that it is silly, saying it is canon breaking is incorrect.
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
did you know that SWTOR is not canon?
Hasn't been for a while.
so while you can have the opinion that it is silly, saying it is canon breaking is incorrect.
Ahhh, so they don't even have to try. That's a great excuse!
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
did you know that SWTOR is not canon?
Hasn't been for a while.
so while you can have the opinion that it is silly, saying it is canon breaking is incorrect.
Ahhh, so they don't even have to try. That's a great excuse!
when did i offer it as an excuse for anything? all I said is that your statement that it is canon-breaking is factually wrong.
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
You comments get sillier and sillier every year...yeah five years in we are at a new silly level for...probably just time for you to move on.
Mmmm hmmmm, smell those delicious ad hominem attacks! Sure beats refuting the argument with opinions or facts any day!
Arguments are redundant in this case. When you deem a game as being silly for your standards then you move on.
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
You comments get sillier and sillier every year...yeah five years in we are at a new silly level for...probably just time for you to move on.
Mmmm hmmmm, smell those delicious ad hominem attacks! Sure beats refuting the argument with opinions or facts any day!
Arguments are redundant in this case. When you deem a game as being silly for your standards then you move on.
That's what i do.
Replying is redundant in this case. When you deem a poster's words as being silly for your standards then you move on.
wierd considering the story is all about force users. also for everything canon...LOL Disney threw out almost everything canon so it does not matter. What, i think the cartoon series and movies are the only canon.
their adding that pve arena that is solo content. looks pretty good as well.
add pazaak and swoop racing a long the way and it will be soemthing i will treat as new.
I really dont get this resistance to good ideas such as swoop racing.
and even mini games with credits. if they make it for small enough denominations then it wont matter. it doesnt have to be all in, but something trivial to how much a person can make from 1 quest for example.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
More canon breaking silly shit. Most of the costumes in this game look like someone went dumpster diving, taped a bunch of garbage bags together and then glued on some cardboard shoulder pads and spikey bits... so why not weapons that look like they would fry the wielder to death with lightening coursing through them?
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
You comments get sillier and sillier every year...yeah five years in we are at a new silly level for...probably just time for you to move on.
Mmmm hmmmm, smell those delicious ad hominem attacks! Sure beats refuting the argument with opinions or facts any day!
Arguments are redundant in this case. When you deem a game as being silly for your standards then you move on.
That's what i do.
Replying is redundant in this case. When you deem a poster's words as being silly for your standards then you move on.
That's what i do.
I never deemed his writing as being silly. I merely commented about him labeling TOR a silly game. These two are completely different things.
I know, trying to be a smart**s on the forums is hard work for some.
I like that they are offering a method to add particle effects to weapons, maybe something similar to armor eventually too? I used to subscribe & enjoyed SWTOR, but when KotF released I stopped because a lot of my recent efforts had been diminished with no compensation hence only playing as free now. Still good storylines though.
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There is new content coming? (Besides that boring interactive movie a.k.a. kofte chapters)
. . .oh wait.
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I would like to address @sayuu ; : I understand that content has been added, however that took a long time to come AND while not in the cash shop, did require you to be a subscriber. SWTOR has placed a lot of stuff in those drop boxes.... that is my real problem. I do not hate on anyone playing, I am just trying to avoid cash shop games these days, and I am sad that MMO gaming has gone this way.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
The CM in swtor is only a major focus if you choose to make it a focus. I haven't spent a dime on the CM in about two years. I save up a stash of CC then purchase a few boxes to stock up on credits and keep an item or two.
what exactly took "a long time to come" with KotFE? the level cap raise? the story content? the Starfortress flashpoints? they only thing that might fit that criteria is the new PvP stuff
Secondly:
what about the revamp to leveling? the re-balancing of Heroic missions? the revamp to the Companion System? the revamp to crafting, the retooling of flashpoints? or the level sync to zone system? did they make you Sub for any of that?
I know we just had a new warzone added, from what i hear a very bugged warzone, and it's good that pvp'ers gets something new, allthough i think what they wanted most of all was something done to pvp balancing. It's been pretty bad since 3.0.
I'd like to get a new dayli area, a moon or an addition to an old planet. something you can do with friends. I'd prefer some new FP's or worldbosses or interesting new conquest objectives you need to do as a group.
I miss the time when the empire was the enemy instead of now where were all friends.
This game gets sillier and sillier every year.
did you know that SWTOR is not canon?
Hasn't been for a while.
so while you can have the opinion that it is silly, saying it is canon breaking is incorrect.
Arguments are redundant in this case. When you deem a game as being silly for your standards then you move on.
That's what i do.
add pazaak and swoop racing a long the way and it will be soemthing i will treat as new.
I really dont get this resistance to good ideas such as swoop racing.
and even mini games with credits. if they make it for small enough denominations then it wont matter. it doesnt have to be all in, but something trivial to how much a person can make from 1 quest for example.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
I know, trying to be a smart**s on the forums is hard work for some.