No PvE servers, correct?

wrightstuf

Hi...my fault for not researching it thoroughly before ordering game. Mu understanding is forced PvP end game? I wont play a game with that. You cannot launch game without forfeiting you right for a refund so i can't log on to find out if there are PvE servers available. No PvE only, correct?

Bloodaxes

Once you reach lvl 45 people can attack you.

That doesn't mean there is ganking left and right. There's a harsh penalty (Karma) for pking. It's up to you really if you want to attempt or not. Maybe try with a guest key?

olepi

No PvE servers, correct. The PvE is mind-numbingly easy too. Once you hit lvl 45, you are automatically flagged for PvP.

Gymrat313

I took the plunge since I couldn't acquire a guest pass and I must say I enjoy the game very much so far. I do play fairly casually and after hitting level 15 on my wizard, I am working on procuring meat to turn into jerky at the moment. The game is absolutely the most beautiful MMORPG I have played and the day/night/weather conditions make me feel very immersed in the world. That said I do not typically like PvP centric endgame, however that is why I am going to play this game casually and make the trip to 45 take as long as possible. I feel comfortable I will get my $30 worth with this approach.

SpottyGekko

You can always delete your character when you get to L45 and start over again...  

The older the game gets, the more PVP-enabled characters there will be in the game world. And boredom can be a real "killer", lol

Kyleran

Better get your money back, definitely not for you.

Anteraaa

No PVE server and i doubt there will be one

flizzer

This is another Korean gankfest game, yes

Mikeha

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

Bad.dog

flizzer said:

This is another Korean gankfest game, yes.....although I don't play the game I have  my opinion

TheScavenger

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Bloodaxes

DMKano said:

PvE servers cannot work in BD.

Think about it - what would be the long term point of playing on a PvE server???

The PvE mobs are faceroll at all levels, world PvE bosses are not a draw - actually they are implemented poorly - players do them for gear alone not for the fun of the encounter,  the drive to get gear to +15 and beyond is PvP - not PvE, you can PvE just fine at 1-60 in way less than +15 gear.

So crafting you say - to what end? For what purpose? So you amass billions of silver on a PvE server... for a title and an icon on leaderboards? For what purpose? 

PvE server in BD has ZERO sustainability long term - but both PA and Daum know this which is why they will never do a PvE server.

If there was a way to make PvE servers work - they'd do it in a heartbeat - because the majority are PvE players.

And what makes you think a pve server couldn't have guild wars, sieges etc?

Oh right you don't cause it would work.

Octagon7711

All they would have to do is put in the PvP quest which would give a person a choice to PvP or not.  I hear it works.

Tiller

DMKano said:

PvE servers cannot work in BD.

Think about it - what would be the long term point of playing on a PvE server???

The PvE mobs are faceroll at all levels, world PvE bosses are not a draw - actually they are implemented poorly - players do them for gear alone not for the fun of the encounter,  the drive to get gear to +15 and beyond is PvP - not PvE, you can PvE just fine at 1-60 in way less than +15 gear.

So crafting you say - to what end? For what purpose? So you amass billions of silver on a PvE server... for a title and an icon on leaderboards? For what purpose? 

PvE server in BD has ZERO sustainability long term - but both PA and Daum know this which is why they will never do a PvE server.

If there was a way to make PvE servers work - they'd do it in a heartbeat - because the majority are PvE players.

It would be pointless, not to mention the Valencia update will add new additions to the pvp aspects of the game that center around pvp and you have to have negative karma to survive there, though I guess you could pick-pocket your way in. On a side note though I think Bless will be a better game for PvP players who only enjoy ganking. Most people will leave for that game, and BDO will kind of level out with it's playerbase. 

Mikeha

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

Bloodaxes

Recore said:

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

What's with the hostility?

The game offers content for both sides it's not only a pvp game. Telling them to go play another game is childish... All they asked was if there was a pve server not to make one.

Tiller

Bloodaxes said:

Recore said:

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

What's with the hostility?

The game offers content for both sides it's not only a pvp game. Telling them to go play another game is childish... All they asked was if there was a pve server not to make one.

Last time players of an MMO told people upstet over changes to "go play something else if you don't like it" they did, that game became a ghost town and was eventually sunset leaving the people playing it upset with no game lol.

Mikeha

Bloodaxes said:

Recore said:

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

What's with the hostility?

The game offers content for both sides it's not only a pvp game. Telling them to go play another game is childish... All they asked was if there was a pve server not to make one.

There is no hostility because I simply do not care what anybody thinks.

Black Desert is a PVP game and it needs to expand its design more toward PVP.

If you are a PVE player you do not belong in this game. 

Its not hostile and its not childish. 

If you do not like it then do not play it. 

MrMelGibson

Recore said:

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

You come off like a pretentious teenager.  BDO isn't only your game.  Some people enjoy different things from you.  I know weird.

laxie

wrightstuf said:

Hi...my fault for not researching it thoroughly before ordering game. Mu understanding is forced PvP end game? I wont play a game with that. You cannot launch game without forfeiting you right for a refund so i can't log on to find out if there are PvE servers available. No PvE only, correct?

The game has some interesting crafting and harvesting systems. If you enjoy those, it might be worth a try. I actually enjoyed farming and crafting stuff casually.

But in terms of combat content, it is not that impressive for PvE.

Bloodaxes

Tiller said:

Bloodaxes said:

Recore said:

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

What's with the hostility?

The game offers content for both sides it's not only a pvp game. Telling them to go play another game is childish... All they asked was if there was a pve server not to make one.

Last time players of an MMO told people upstet over changes to "go play something else if you don't like it" they did, that game became a ghost town and was eventually sunset leaving the people playing it upset with no game lol.

Even in Archeage I managed to do my own things in pve for months while avoiding pvp.

When you shove people away the world will seem empty apart of some specific individuals (Ex: LaughingCoffin pking same faction and helping enemy faction) that will stick for the pvp. If there's no people to fight tough, many of them will eventually leave too.

It's the nature of the open world pvp games but many seem to be under the influence that all mmo need it despite it making many people quit. It is never been implemented well and I doubt it will due to a certain group of pvpers that like pking.

Forgrimm

If it's anything like ArcheAge, a dedicated pve server wouldn't make any sense. The risk:reward ratio is balanced around pvp being present.

FlyByKnight

1. Ask something  I could have googled and found out in 2 clicks.
2. Post on MMORPG
3. Troll post complete

Bloodaxes

DMKano said:

Bloodaxes said:

DMKano said:

PvE servers cannot work in BD.

Think about it - what would be the long term point of playing on a PvE server???

The PvE mobs are faceroll at all levels, world PvE bosses are not a draw - actually they are implemented poorly - players do them for gear alone not for the fun of the encounter,  the drive to get gear to +15 and beyond is PvP - not PvE, you can PvE just fine at 1-60 in way less than +15 gear.

So crafting you say - to what end? For what purpose? So you amass billions of silver on a PvE server... for a title and an icon on leaderboards? For what purpose? 

PvE server in BD has ZERO sustainability long term - but both PA and Daum know this which is why they will never do a PvE server.

If there was a way to make PvE servers work - they'd do it in a heartbeat - because the majority are PvE players.

And what makes you think a pve server couldn't have guild wars, sieges etc?

Oh right you don't cause it would work.

Because those are PvP content - if you add that to a PvE server - it ceases to be a PvE server.

Without the possibility to pk anyone on sight, more people would go over the level 45 I'm 100% sure of it.

It's a win/win scenario for the people that actually want to pvp and not mindless pking. 

If someone doesn't want to pvp they can stay guildless but if they want to do both pve/pvp they can join a guild and do guild wars, node wars etc etc.

MrMelGibson

DMKano said:

Bloodaxes said:

DMKano said:

PvE servers cannot work in BD.

Think about it - what would be the long term point of playing on a PvE server???

The PvE mobs are faceroll at all levels, world PvE bosses are not a draw - actually they are implemented poorly - players do them for gear alone not for the fun of the encounter,  the drive to get gear to +15 and beyond is PvP - not PvE, you can PvE just fine at 1-60 in way less than +15 gear.

So crafting you say - to what end? For what purpose? So you amass billions of silver on a PvE server... for a title and an icon on leaderboards? For what purpose? 

PvE server in BD has ZERO sustainability long term - but both PA and Daum know this which is why they will never do a PvE server.

If there was a way to make PvE servers work - they'd do it in a heartbeat - because the majority are PvE players.

And what makes you think a pve server couldn't have guild wars, sieges etc?

Oh right you don't cause it would work.

Because those are PvP content - if you add that to a PvE server - it ceases to be a PvE server, and you have a mix of PvP and PvE, which is what BD is already.

You are wrong.  Tera has this system.  PVP and PVE servers.  On PVE servers you can still do battlegrounds and Guild vs. Guild content.  Soooo... what exactly was your point?

Bloodaxes

Recore said:

Bloodaxes said:

Recore said:

TheScavenger said:

Recore said:

I vote no for PVE servers. 

If you want PVE go play a PVE game.

okay. name me a up to date, modern, PvE sandbox/sandpark game.

Not SWG as that is dead.

Ryzom is pretty much dead. And it never gets updated barely.

Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online are both old as the MMORPG genre

So go on, name me a PvE sandbox/sandpark game that I didn't list above (as they are all dead or ancient, and even if SWG was still around, its also ancient now) that I can go play

Why would I name you anything?

Never played SWG, Ryson, Anarchy or Asherons call and do not care about them.

All that matters is Black Desert and if you do not like it then do not play it. 

What's with the hostility?

The game offers content for both sides it's not only a pvp game. Telling them to go play another game is childish... All they asked was if there was a pve server not to make one.

There is no hostility because I simply do not care what anybody thinks.

Black Desert is a PVP game and it needs to expand its design more toward PVP.

If you are a PVE player you do not belong in this game. 

Its not hostile and its not childish. 

If you do not like it then do not play it. 

And you're wrong. BDO is PVE AND PVP.

Crafting, Boss hunting, Grinding monsters for rare equipments, All the node system and other side activities like hunting, horse taming etc are ALL pve activities. 

More than half of the game is revolved around pve. Having no dungeons doesn't make/break the pve tagline.