I dont know its still consumer choice. What was $500 a few years ago is obsolete or worth $50 now. I remember way back when on my 486 PC a 16MB RAM upgrade was $700. Companies are just playing off what the users want / buy. If no one pre-orders these or it flops then chances are they wont do that kind of promotion again. However we all know that many people have to have the latest and greatest instantly and will do / spend whatever it takes to get that.
I understand what your saying Quiz and it was a very good post. However, who really cares? Most people have no need for GTX 1080. They just want to have it for no other reason then the fact that they want it. Not only is a pre-order a waste of money. The whole card is a waste of money. The majority of people could get a 970 or 980 and run almost all games on max to high settings for the next few years.
There is a huge difference between a need and a want. A lot people need to get this "I need" attitude out of here. Not saying that some people out there wouldn't benefit from the 1080. It's just that the majority of market really has no need for it.
Save yourself some cash people. Buy a 970 or 980 when the prices start to drop off. It will last you years.
Pre-ordering anything that you can't test as a finished product first is insane.
I pre-ordered Overwatch, but only after playing it for three days straight and I'm very happy with the product. I know what I'm going to be getting here in a couple of weeks when it comes out, and I'm super pleased with the quality of the product.
But un-reviewed and un-tested hardware months before it hits shelves? Yikes. Shudder. No.
Per-orders, paid betas, and paid early access have worked so well for the gaming industry, I suppose hardware was the next evolution.
Next we'll be seeing Kickstarter hardware with stretch goals.
Ubuntu guys already tried that with the phone and failed
Oh and "supposedly" 1080 review samples are already sent
Sure, they could have sent review samples; if they haven't yet, they probably will soon. They could have made hundreds of cards. Just not hundreds of thousands, which is my point.
Pre-ordering hardware just isn't practical. Count me out. Have to agree with Quiz. Would rather it be on a shelf, I can see the specs out right, not just a paper draft, or even wait a bit until the reviews and benchmarks have been reported in.
It's not likely that they'll ask people to pre-order cards before reviews are out. What I'm expecting to happen is, they launch on May 27 and the NDA ends and a bunch of reviews go up. But if you want to buy a card on New Egg or Amazon or whatever, they aren't there. If you want to buy a card on nvidia.com, they are for sale, and you can pay now and get your card when they have enough to send you one. So people buy cards expecting to get it in a week or so. And then it gets delivered in November, by which time, it isn't such a great deal anymore.
Wouldn't 4000 graphics card be enough for a us+china+eu paper launch ?
They should have around 4k ddr5x chips ready by mid-july/august ?. lets say maybe 750-1000 to go on launch already made, and another 1k july and then ramp up to have another 2k by mid-august. that would be a pretty decent paper launch.
1070 would be out by then to cover it up, and founder's edition is the delay tactic.
Wouldn't 4000 graphics card be enough for a us+china+eu paper launch ?
They should have around 4k ddr5x chips ready by mid-july/august ?. lets say maybe 750-1000 to go on launch already made, and another 1k july and then ramp up to have another 2k by mid-august. that would be a pretty decent paper launch.
1070 would be out by then to cover it up, and founder's edition is the delay tactic.
Generally, yes. Chip lines usually produce pretty quickly, rough guess one factory could pump 200 - 500 an hour with 15ish percent failure rate. Depends on material available and tools. Last I checked there's a pluthera of silicon, germanium, and copper available in the world.
The manufacturing isn't the issue on the release push, however... It's the logistics, it's not practical to ship all the components from manufacturer a, b, and c etc to the final product manufacturer for assembly. Most of these cards aren't produced under one roof. Then there's the logistics of shipping to distributors.
Wouldn't 4000 graphics card be enough for a us+china+eu paper launch ?
They should have around 4k ddr5x chips ready by mid-july/august ?. lets say maybe 750-1000 to go on launch already made, and another 1k july and then ramp up to have another 2k by mid-august. that would be a pretty decent paper launch.
1070 would be out by then to cover it up, and founder's edition is the delay tactic.
Generally, yes. Chip lines usually produce pretty quickly, rough guess one factory could pump 200 - 500 an hour with 15ish percent failure rate. Depends on material available and tools. Last I checked there's a pluthera of silicon, germanium, and copper available in the world.
The manufacturing isn't the issue on the release push, however... It's the logistics, it's not practical to ship all the components from manufacturer a, b, and c etc to the final product manufacturer for assembly. Most of these cards aren't produced under one roof. Then there's the logistics of shipping to distributors.
I'm sure you know this, but there are things that you can do to rush a few hundred review samples for a launch that aren't practical to do for hundreds of thousands of cards.
Can't you guys see Nvidia is panicing because AMD card is beating them to market and will take a HUGE market share away from Nvidia so Nvidia is lying to the public about availability to try and hold on to its domination of the market? Pretty clear to me.
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There is a huge difference between a need and a want. A lot people need to get this "I need" attitude out of here. Not saying that some people out there wouldn't benefit from the 1080. It's just that the majority of market really has no need for it.
Save yourself some cash people. Buy a 970 or 980 when the prices start to drop off. It will last you years.
Oh and "supposedly" 1080 review samples are already sent
I pre-ordered Overwatch, but only after playing it for three days straight and I'm very happy with the product. I know what I'm going to be getting here in a couple of weeks when it comes out, and I'm super pleased with the quality of the product.
But un-reviewed and un-tested hardware months before it hits shelves? Yikes. Shudder. No.
That's why smart people always preorder digital goods.
Would rather it be on a shelf, I can see the specs out right, not just a paper draft, or even wait a bit until the reviews and benchmarks have been reported in.
They should have around 4k ddr5x chips ready by mid-july/august ?. lets say maybe 750-1000 to go on launch already made, and another 1k july and then ramp up to have another 2k by mid-august. that would be a pretty decent paper launch.
1070 would be out by then to cover it up, and founder's edition is the delay tactic.
So cards are already in reviewer hands supposedly and reviews are gonna be out before "launch" on the 17th
The manufacturing isn't the issue on the release push, however... It's the logistics, it's not practical to ship all the components from manufacturer a, b, and c etc to the final product manufacturer for assembly. Most of these cards aren't produced under one roof. Then there's the logistics of shipping to distributors.