The new Ultima: Linkrealms will start on Steam today..without a wipe

dossy

Hey,

maybe you hear about the upcoming "New Ultima Online" Linkrealms?
So they will start the game today via steam and I am sure a lot of people will join in today!

...my personal problem is...they dont wipe the server...I hate new games without a wipe...even when its fullloot in PvP!

What do you think about that topic? I understand the developers cause they wrote:

3. Will there be a server wipe/reset when the game transitions to full launch?

Our plan is not to wipe the server. Because of this, you'll be able to buy credits and claim stakes from the item store during the beta already.

so far

Dossy

Kyleran

Hmm, I've always thought Shroud of the Avatar as the upcoming UO successor.

But lets face reality, most indie MMOs are woefully underfunded and the only way they'll ever succeed is to "soft launch" in some sort of playable (or not so playable) state so they can start bringing in money to continue developing the game.

Annwyn

It's not an entirely new game as far as I can remember. I remember applying for beta sometime around 2008-2009 I think. (Didn't get in though, but still). It'd suck for players who've played for a few years to lose their characters I suppose.

Braindome

You really should understand that this game was in full release long before this "beta program". This whole beta thing has just been to bring in some fresh players and while I admit the game is unique and I like it the fact is it's a small focused game and not nearly as massive as one would hope and they have had players on these servers for years that have spent hundreds to thousands of dollars on land claims and built some pretty expansive claims.

Doing a wipe would literally be suicide to their pre-existing player base and truly there is no way they ever legitimately planned to wipe and any such talk was purely hyperbole, no worries though the game has already been live since 2011 so they have alot of things ironed out and any damage has been long since done, but hey there is fun to be had in this game, but it's more like an Ultima Online mini-game.

Akulas

Oh cool, I gave out a crap ton of stakes afew years back. I actually forgot this game existed. If it's open "for real" now then might have a look and see if I remember any old names. I don't think it's very new person friendly though as you'll see when you enter the game what I mean (graphics, interface etc)

Gromzok

If you play for graphics i will tell you right away stay away this is not a game for you. If you can get past graphics i think you will find that Linkrealms has a lot to offer.

My advice is try it you just might be pleasantly surprised if you play it for 20h+ at least.

Also probably most importantly game is not p2w cash shop store has mostly vanity items such as costumes, repair gear anywhere and stuff like that.

Here is a quote from developer on no wipe matter:

1. Linkrealms, even more than most MMOs, has a skill progression where raising your abilities is generally fast, and becomes very slow only in the highest skill levels (90 to 100).
2. Equipment also matters, but it's fairly easy to get good crafter gear, while very rare crafted gear + artifacts will certainly make you stronger, but not a "god".
3. Even in the PvP server there is a safe zone in and around the starting town (Riverbank) where you an learn about game mechanics and improve your character.

Let's add the fact that:

1. The Classic (open pvp + full loot) server has undergone beta testing phases without being wiped from the Summer Beta in August 2015 only, and the total time it's been open is less than 3 months.
2. There have been no major game balancing changes (e.g. new way of generating items properties) since then - they were all done before August 2015. The "really easy to get" thing, @Meziljin, maybe applies to the Safe (PvE) server which has been opened longer, not to the Classic server where I guess you want to play.
3. About bless scrolls, you should not think players have accumulated tons of Rare Bless Scrolls. There are now 134 rare bless scrolls not yet used in the Classic server (just looked it up in the database), out of thousands of players. Yes, just that!

Put this all together and I can tell you, both as a developer and as a player, that starting "late" on Linkrealms is not a big deal.

Plus, if there is enough demand, we will definitely open new servers!.

Gromzok

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

Gromzok said:

If you play for graphics i will tell you right away stay away this is not a game for you. If you can get past graphics i think you will find that Linkrealms has a lot to offer.

My advice is try it you just might be pleasantly surprised if you play it for 20h+ at least.

Also probably most importantly game is not p2w cash shop store has mostly vanity items such as costumes, repair gear anywhere and stuff like that.

Here is a quote from developer on no wipe matter:

1. Linkrealms, even more than most MMOs, has a skill progression where raising your abilities is generally fast, and becomes very slow only in the highest skill levels (90 to 100).
2. Equipment also matters, but it's fairly easy to get good crafter gear, while very rare crafted gear + artifacts will certainly make you stronger, but not a "god".
3. Even in the PvP server there is a safe zone in and around the starting town (Riverbank) where you an learn about game mechanics and improve your character.

Let's add the fact that:

1. The Classic (open pvp + full loot) server has undergone beta testing phases without being wiped from the Summer Beta in August 2015 only, and the total time it's been open is less than 3 months.
2. There have been no major game balancing changes (e.g. new way of generating items properties) since then - they were all done before August 2015. The "really easy to get" thing, @Meziljin, maybe applies to the Safe (PvE) server which has been opened longer, not to the Classic server where I guess you want to play.
3. About bless scrolls, you should not think players have accumulated tons of Rare Bless Scrolls. There are now 134 rare bless scrolls not yet used in the Classic server (just looked it up in the database), out of thousands of players. Yes, just that!

Put this all together and I can tell you, both as a developer and as a player, that starting "late" on Linkrealms is not a big deal.

Plus, if there is enough demand, we will definitely open new servers!.

Question is, what does it have to offer compared to UO and its 20 years of content additions?

What does WoW offer compared to Everquest? Honestly its a silly question... Every game is different in how it looks, how it feels, the community, focus of devs...

Why does it always have to be black and white for you people? Why do you always want to put 2 pieces of paper next to each other and compare them? Just give it a try for gods sake stop looking for something that doesn't exist... If you like it that's great and if you don't well lets face it its not first 15$ (its on discount for first week) u wasted and it certainly wont be last. Life goes on!

But since you insist for something i will tell you:
1. Linkrealms is f2p (b2p during Early Access) and cash shop is not p2w (yes i saw it cause i played beta) while Ultima Online is p2p.
2. In Linkrealms you have 2 servers 1 PvE server with limited PvP and no full loot and 1 PvP server with unlimited PvP (except starting area) and full loot (no Trammel crap).
3. Devs that actually communicate with players both on forums and in game.

vomomoto

Ugh. Looks like a souped up 3D client they tried to release a while back.

Gromzok

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

Gromzok said:

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

Gromzok said:

If you play for graphics i will tell you right away stay away this is not a game for you. If you can get past graphics i think you will find that Linkrealms has a lot to offer.

My advice is try it you just might be pleasantly surprised if you play it for 20h+ at least.

Also probably most importantly game is not p2w cash shop store has mostly vanity items such as costumes, repair gear anywhere and stuff like that.

Here is a quote from developer on no wipe matter:

1. Linkrealms, even more than most MMOs, has a skill progression where raising your abilities is generally fast, and becomes very slow only in the highest skill levels (90 to 100).
2. Equipment also matters, but it's fairly easy to get good crafter gear, while very rare crafted gear + artifacts will certainly make you stronger, but not a "god".
3. Even in the PvP server there is a safe zone in and around the starting town (Riverbank) where you an learn about game mechanics and improve your character.

Let's add the fact that:

1. The Classic (open pvp + full loot) server has undergone beta testing phases without being wiped from the Summer Beta in August 2015 only, and the total time it's been open is less than 3 months.
2. There have been no major game balancing changes (e.g. new way of generating items properties) since then - they were all done before August 2015. The "really easy to get" thing, @Meziljin, maybe applies to the Safe (PvE) server which has been opened longer, not to the Classic server where I guess you want to play.
3. About bless scrolls, you should not think players have accumulated tons of Rare Bless Scrolls. There are now 134 rare bless scrolls not yet used in the Classic server (just looked it up in the database), out of thousands of players. Yes, just that!

Put this all together and I can tell you, both as a developer and as a player, that starting "late" on Linkrealms is not a big deal.

Plus, if there is enough demand, we will definitely open new servers!.

Question is, what does it have to offer compared to UO and its 20 years of content additions?

What does WoW offer compared to Everquest? Honestly its a silly question... Every game is different in how it looks, how it feels, the community, focus of devs...

Why does it always have to be black and white for you people? Why do you always want to put 2 pieces of paper next to each other and compare them? Just give it a try for gods sake stop looking for something that doesn't exist... If you like it that's great and if you don't well lets face it its not first 15$ (its on discount for first week) u wasted and it certainly wont be last. Life goes on!

But since you insist for something i will tell you:
1. Linkrealms is f2p (b2p during Early Access) and cash shop is not p2w (yes i saw it cause i played beta) while Ultima Online is p2p.
2. In Linkrealms you have 2 servers 1 PvE server with limited PvP and no full loot and 1 PvP server with unlimited PvP (except starting area) and full loot (no Trammel crap).
3. Devs that actually communicate with players both on forums and in game.

No no no, I want you to list me CONTENT advantages compared to UO. What do I find playing this game I can't find in UO. All you did is evade the question so far.

I didn't evade question. If what you seek in MMO is content then by all means keep playing UO since it has 20 years of content nothing will ever beat it as gap will only rise between UO and new MMOs.

Also fact that Linkrealms is f2p is a game changer. Maybe not for you but for many people it is.
I guess you could also add that new players don't have to compete with 20yr old characters helps too in full loot PvP

Gromzok

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

Gromzok said:

I guess you could also add that new players don't have to compete with 20yr old characters helps too in full loot PvP

Ah yes, I guess that's why they won't wipe their beta servers. So that new players feel welcome after release in a full loot PvP game where the others had the whole beta as headstart...

Because 20yr and 2.5 months is same

danwest58

Yea looks good if it was 1998.  Really this game has nothing new to offer me as a person who played UO back in 1998.  If I wanted to play this game I might as well just play UO because there is no difference between the 2 games other than UO has more content to play vs realms.   If you had today's 3D graphics I would be game.  You can say all you want about Graphics BUT they do matter today, because if your game looks like a game from nearly 20 years ago people just will not come to support your game.  

ceratop001

Great game for sure but the graphics just too old for me to delve into again.

bcbully

If it's "new" why does it look so old?

Theocritus

I remember trying this 3-4 years ago in beta.......I thought it had better graphics and smoother gameplay than UO but I could be wrong on that......ALso there was something really bad about the magic system but i cant remember what it was off the top of my head.

fodell54

Gromzok said:

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

Question is, what does it have to offer compared to UO and its 20 years of content additions?

What does WoW offer compared to Everquest? Honestly its a silly question...

WoW offers better graphics and smoother game play.

His question is very valid. What does this game offer that UO doesn't? Why would you rather play an imitation then the real thing when the imitation doesn't offer anything better? 

Thomas2006

fodell54 said:

Gromzok said:

Jean-Luc_Picard said:

Question is, what does it have to offer compared to UO and its 20 years of content additions?

What does WoW offer compared to Everquest? Honestly its a silly question...

WoW offers better graphics and smoother game play.

His question is very valid. What does this game offer that UO doesn't? Why would you rather play an imitation then the real thing when the imitation doesn't offer anything better? 

It is a very valid question. But the real answer that no one wants to say is that it offers nothing over Ultima Online other this moderately better graphics. Between skills and the sheer amount of content UO has the advantage in the content department.

15-20 years ago Linkrealms could have done amazing. But today and this age it just does not stand up to other games like it. (UO, Runescape, ect.)

bobbymcswanson

Having played UO since it hit the shelf and now this game.....I don't understand where all the hate is coming from....it feels like a throw back for sure.....but it's also its own thing.....

Shoot I just got a bunch of buddies that all used to play UO  together to try this and we love it.....15$ one time fee for some content I haven't played and a major dose of nostalgia.... 

Bet most negative comments haven't even played this game...

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Mavolence

Wow, it has zoning/instancing between areas? What the actual *bleep* 

Mavolence

Well, I bought it anyways and the game will not launch. Pretty pissed off about this.

http://prntscr.com/b6fwvv

Seems other people having the same issues on steam forums.

Edit was fixed-- If you are running windows 10 I had to add the folder to Anti-Virus exclusions in windows defender. FYI.

Gabriel-Knight

Pretty much what Mr. Picard said before...

I've tried the game a couple of years ago and it was nice, tho i uninstalled it 10 minutes later because it was just a ripoff of UO. I mean, i could just go and play that one and it would be a much pleasant experience.
On the other hand, a game that's in beta for so many years is doomed to fail IMO, because it will be outdated by the time it goes live, holding only those who were there before that event.

Probably a bunch of players will show up, see how old the game is, and quickly move on to something else.

Thomas2006

Gabriel-Knight said:

Pretty much what Mr. Picard said before...

I've tried the game a couple of years ago and it was nice, tho i uninstalled it 10 minutes later because it was just a ripoff of UO. I mean, i could just go and play that one and it would be a much pleasant experience.
On the other hand, a game that's in beta for so many years is doomed to fail IMO, because it will be outdated by the time it goes live, holding only those who were there before that event.

Probably a bunch of players will show up, see how old the game is, and quickly move on to something else.

Having played the game for some hours now. The graphics are extremely bad.. Even by late 90's standards. Ultima Online looks better then most of the artwork in Linkrealms. Things are just super blurry and stretched to very large sizes. It is almost like they took artwork that was really small and designed to be viewed at a much greater distance and just scaled them up until they look like sh*t.

The only thing it really has going for it is the Ultima feel to it. That they managed to nail. Too bad the graphics are just so bad it makes you wish you where playing a text game instead. The sad thing is that not all the textures are bad. The 3d characters look fairly good to standard and the castle walls and houses look good. But the trees look extremely bad and things like logs on the ground and rocks are just so bad that I feel I have seen 32x32 sprites look better.

Sadly I think this game is 20+ years to late to the party to be anything to really talk / write about.

shalissar

I watched the video and it actually looks kinda nice, not as outdated as I thought it was gonna be. But then I saw the reviews. A player guild of vets systematically killing off every newbie? Really?

I'm not gonna touch it if this is the case. My time is too precious to be wasted by griefing idiots.

edit: video says some servers have "limited pvp rules" or something like that, might give it a shot then!

Gromzok

In last patch they made it so u can max out skills in safe zones. Also they will add soon criminal system and more newbie protections (cant get attacked if you dont have certain skills at 80 and 100 is max).

Gromzok

Thomas2006 said:

Having played the game for some hours now. The graphics are extremely bad.. Even by late 90's standards. Ultima Online looks better then most of the artwork in Linkrealms.

You either never played any game from 90s or forgot how they look.

Thomas2006

Gromzok said:

Thomas2006 said:

Having played the game for some hours now. The graphics are extremely bad.. Even by late 90's standards. Ultima Online looks better then most of the artwork in Linkrealms.

You either never played any game from 90s or forgot how they look.

I have never played any game from the 90's lol..  I actively play UO still. Started back before release and still play the game on and off now. So yes I know exactly what they look like.