The SECOND sentence on the page you linked has a link to the drivers for Legacy products. Both the 600 and 700 series have current drivers. Considering both of those series are years old I don't know what you are complaining about.
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700 series is less than 3 years old, 780ti less than 2 and a half.
But unofficially Kepler has already been there for over a year now (very poor performance due to lack of driver optimizations compared both to 900 series and AMD)
700 series is less than 3 years old, 780ti less than 2 and a half.
True. That is ages in Tech years.
I will agree that putting the 700 series in Legacy seems a little premature. Hell I had a 670 until last year or so and it was just starting to not cut it as far as AAA top end graphics. Nowadays it would not even meet Minimum specs on most games.
As a self professed graphics whore I will never be pissed when games push the envelope. If the envelope is pushed past a GFX cards abilities I don't want the manufacturer to waste time on those cards anymore. Adapt to the changes or play Facebook games I guess.
EDIT: As to your edit yes they did purposefully "gimp" Kepler in favor of newer Tech. That does suck but see my third paragraph above to see why it is just a risk you take. My 970 may become "gimped" soon also, but I will not get all pissy about it. I will have to adjust (buy a newer card) or adapt (play my games on lower settings).
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I dont really know a game where 670 doesnt meet minimum requirements, 500 series is still in minimum requrements.
780/780ti were on GTX970/R9 390 level while they still got driver optimizations but have been falling way behind in the last year already. Its just official now.
And to your edit: those were 700+$ GPUs not even 2 years ago.
I dont really know a game where 670 doesnt meet minimum requirements, 500 series is still in minimum requrements.
Ok Ok I was exaggerating, ya caught me!
My point stands. Both series have current drivers and will continue to have them. "Legacy" does not equal "discontinued driver support" in most cases. The 400 series has a current driver. The 300 series has one from March 16. Those are old as fuck.
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Its discontinued, you get drivers "as is", NVidia will fix only critical errors in case game doesnt work at all.
Performance - forget about it. Legacy means legacy.
That sounds like support to me.
This conversation is a Semantics issue. Your OP title states "no driver SUPPORT anymore". Therefore I will drop out of it. Let others agree or disagree with you.
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Its discontinued, you get drivers "as is", NVidia will fix only critical errors in case game doesnt work at all.
Performance - forget about it. Legacy means legacy.
That sounds like support to me.
This conversation is a Semantics issue. Your OP title states "no driver SUPPORT anymore". Therefore I will drop out of it. Let others agree or disagree with you.
As i said, aou get drivers as is. Theres no semantics, its very well known what leagcy means.
WOW that's a quick move to legacy. Thought with the coming of Vulkan that the 700 series would be supported for a bit longer since Vulkan supports that series as well...
Legacy doesn't mean driver support is discontinued. On Nvidia's web site, they say that they released a new driver just yesterday, and that it supports not only Kepler cards, but also Fermi.
Now, Kepler isn't the focus of performance optimizations anymore. It hasn't been since 2014 or so. But "not still trying to optimize drivers for new performance gains" is not at all similar to "driver support is discontinued entirely". If you want to see discontinued driver support, look at the GeForce 200 series (Tesla), where the newest driver is the 341 series; for comparison, the latest Fermi, Kepler, and Maxwell driver is in the 368 series.
Legacy doesn't mean driver support is discontinued. On Nvidia's web site, they say that they released a new driver just yesterday, and that it supports not only Kepler cards, but also Fermi.
Now, Kepler isn't the focus of performance optimizations anymore. It hasn't been since 2014 or so. But "not still trying to optimize drivers for new performance gains" is not at all similar to "driver support is discontinued entirely". If you want to see discontinued driver support, look at the GeForce 200 series (Tesla), where the newest driver is the 341 series; for comparison, the latest Fermi, Kepler, and Maxwell driver is in the 368 series.
They will receive only critical fixes and no more.
As i said, that was already treatment for year or so, its just that now its official.
That's a list of products no longer manufactured. It has nothing to do with driver support.
NVidia's current driver package (368.22 WHQL, released Monday) supports everything from Geforce 900 series to Geforce 400 series.
1. Nvidia still sells Fermi in some of their consumer products (was 400/500 series), and Kepler is still very much manufactured as its last chip to have DP before GP100 (and thats very specific chip).Chips that dont pass pro card validation end up in consumer products.
2. Kepler has now received same tratment as Fermi, only critical fixes and no more. "Having a driver" is not same as receiving support, they can rebrand drivers as long as they want. For instance Fermi wont even get DX12 support even if NVidia said it would. But as you said "it has a driver". For all we know that driver is same as the one from year ago just rebranded. They move releases and just do critical fixes.
700 series is less than 3 years old, 780ti less than 2 and a half.
True. That is ages in Tech years.
I will agree that putting the 700 series in Legacy seems a little premature. Hell I had a 670 until last year or so and it was just starting to not cut it as far as AAA top end graphics. Nowadays it would not even meet Minimum specs on most games.
As a self professed graphics whore I will never be pissed when games push the envelope. If the envelope is pushed past a GFX cards abilities I don't want the manufacturer to waste time on those cards anymore. Adapt to the changes or play Facebook games I guess.
EDIT: As to your edit yes they did purposefully "gimp" Kepler in favor of newer Tech. That does suck but see my third paragraph above to see why it is just a risk you take. My 970 may become "gimped" soon also, but I will not get all pissy about it. I will have to adjust (buy a newer card) or adapt (play my games on lower settings).
I have a 670 and play on max in Overwatch at 60FPS, same on Heroes of the storm, marvel heroes, diablo 3, and on games liked Black Desert online can play on Medium-High, Witcher 3 Medium-High, and so on.
I really dont even need an upgrade unless i Want to play on MAX on the highest demanding games right now. I can still play them fine at medium-high and they look great and a stable FPS.
Also the card still gets the same drivers the 900 series gets lol.... they are not discontinuing driver support at all.
I did some Googling, and it looks like there was false information on some tech websites that Nvidia would be ending their ending their Geforce 600 and 700 support because of an old note about the end of support for Geforce 6 and 7 series. Geforce 6 and 7 series are graphic cards that launched over a decade ago, they are not the same as Geforce 600 and 700 series.
Maybe you read about this from somewhere, and that caused you to make a mistake?
And like I said before, your first post has a list of products that NVidia doesn't manufacture any more/sell actively any more. That webpage isn't about drivers at all.
as i said, they still sell Fermi in some of their products and they still sell Kepler in a lot of products as they dont have an alternative for DP (Maxwell cant do DP, neither can GP104/106/107)
as i said, they still sell Fermi in some of their products and they still sell Kepler in a lot of products as they dont have an alternative for DP (Maxwell cant do DP, neither can GP104/106/107)
NVidia has a webpage for people who want to buy 970, 980 or 980 Ti
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The SECOND sentence on the page you linked has a link to the drivers for Legacy products. Both the 600 and 700 series have current drivers. Considering both of those series are years old I don't know what you are complaining about.
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But unofficially Kepler has already been there for over a year now (very poor performance due to lack of driver optimizations compared both to 900 series and AMD)
I will agree that putting the 700 series in Legacy seems a little premature. Hell I had a 670 until last year or so and it was just starting to not cut it as far as AAA top end graphics. Nowadays it would not even meet Minimum specs on most games.
As a self professed graphics whore I will never be pissed when games push the envelope. If the envelope is pushed past a GFX cards abilities I don't want the manufacturer to waste time on those cards anymore. Adapt to the changes or play Facebook games I guess.
EDIT: As to your edit yes they did purposefully "gimp" Kepler in favor of newer Tech. That does suck but see my third paragraph above to see why it is just a risk you take. My 970 may become "gimped" soon also, but I will not get all pissy about it. I will have to adjust (buy a newer card) or adapt (play my games on lower settings).
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
780/780ti were on GTX970/R9 390 level while they still got driver optimizations but have been falling way behind in the last year already. Its just official now.
And to your edit: those were 700+$ GPUs not even 2 years ago.
My point stands. Both series have current drivers and will continue to have them. "Legacy" does not equal "discontinued driver support" in most cases. The 400 series has a current driver. The 300 series has one from March 16. Those are old as fuck.
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Performance - forget about it. Legacy means legacy.
This conversation is a Semantics issue. Your OP title states "no driver SUPPORT anymore". Therefore I will drop out of it. Let others agree or disagree with you.
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Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
actually I think mine is a 760 but I have been waiting as long as I could for VR (consumer versions) before upgrading.
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Now, Kepler isn't the focus of performance optimizations anymore. It hasn't been since 2014 or so. But "not still trying to optimize drivers for new performance gains" is not at all similar to "driver support is discontinued entirely". If you want to see discontinued driver support, look at the GeForce 200 series (Tesla), where the newest driver is the 341 series; for comparison, the latest Fermi, Kepler, and Maxwell driver is in the 368 series.
That's a list of products no longer manufactured. It has nothing to do with driver support.
NVidia's current driver package (368.22 WHQL, released Monday) supports everything from Geforce 900 series to Geforce 400 series.
As i said, that was already treatment for year or so, its just that now its official.
2. Kepler has now received same tratment as Fermi, only critical fixes and no more. "Having a driver" is not same as receiving support, they can rebrand drivers as long as they want. For instance Fermi wont even get DX12 support even if NVidia said it would. But as you said "it has a driver". For all we know that driver is same as the one from year ago just rebranded. They move releases and just do critical fixes.
To me it's time to swap out a gpu once its life ends - not when Nvidia and AMD put something new into the shelves.
People post us a source.
I have a 670 and play on max in Overwatch at 60FPS, same on Heroes of the storm, marvel heroes, diablo 3, and on games liked Black Desert online can play on Medium-High, Witcher 3 Medium-High, and so on.
I really dont even need an upgrade unless i Want to play on MAX on the highest demanding games right now. I can still play them fine at medium-high and they look great and a stable FPS.
Also the card still gets the same drivers the 900 series gets lol.... they are not discontinuing driver support at all.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
I did some Googling, and it looks like there was false information on some tech websites that Nvidia would be ending their ending their Geforce 600 and 700 support because of an old note about the end of support for Geforce 6 and 7 series. Geforce 6 and 7 series are graphic cards that launched over a decade ago, they are not the same as Geforce 600 and 700 series.
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/600223-nvidia-dropping-support-for-gtx-600-and-700-series-on-linux-updated-turns-out-to-be-false/
Maybe you read about this from somewhere, and that caused you to make a mistake?
And like I said before, your first post has a list of products that NVidia doesn't manufacture any more/sell actively any more. That webpage isn't about drivers at all.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware
as i said, they still sell Fermi in some of their products and they still sell Kepler in a lot of products as they dont have an alternative for DP (Maxwell cant do DP, neither can GP104/106/107)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/compare-buy-gpus