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600&700 NVidia series (Kepler) moved to legacy, no driver support any more

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  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    edited May 2016
    Unlike the problems AMD/ATI historically had, old Nvidia video cards still have excellent support and compatibility years later.

    I used a gtx 480 for about 5 years flawlessly. I purchased it because my 2 yr old radeon from the same year could not run 2 different games I was playing without serious issues and hadn't had a driver update in about 8 months.

    I still have that 480 as a physx processor.


  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016

    Dullahan said:
    Unlike the problems AMD/ATI historically had, old Nvidia video cards still have excellent support and compatibility years later.

    I used a gtx 480 for about 5 years flawlessly. I purchased it because my 2 yr old radeon from the same year could not run 2 different games I was playing without serious issues and hadn't had a driver update in about 8 months.

    I still have that 480 as a physx processor.
    You are lying because until recently AMD had monthly WHQL driver updates and way more frequent driver updates until this NVIdia "game ready" rebranded drivers PR BS (well now AMD has that too). They also had alternative Omega drivers which were pretty famous (and few less known) which were result of more open approach.

    NVidia historically had WAY more problems.
  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    edited May 2016
    Malabooga said:

    Dullahan said:
    Unlike the problems AMD/ATI historically had, old Nvidia video cards still have excellent support and compatibility years later.

    I used a gtx 480 for about 5 years flawlessly. I purchased it because my 2 yr old radeon from the same year could not run 2 different games I was playing without serious issues and hadn't had a driver update in about 8 months.

    I still have that 480 as a physx processor.
    You are lying because until recently AMD had monthly WHQL driver updates and way more frequent driver updates until this NVIdia "game ready" rebranded drivers PR BS (well now AMD has that too). They also had alternative Omega drivers which were pretty famous (and few less known) which were result of more open approach.

    NVidia historically had WAY more problems.
    Sorry, but your revisionist fanboy crap does not hold up to scrutiny.

    I had a 5770 (released in 2010) back in 2012. I had some severe graphical issues in Age of Wushu among other games. Naturally, I can't find the history of drivers released for that card, during that time period, but it definitely happened. Whatever they were releasing, it did not specifically update the 5000 series and the problems I had were shared by many.

    I found a bitcoin farmer on craigslist that offered me a gtx 480 in a straight up trade. The card played all my games flawlessly on a driver that was less than 2 or 3 months old. Within a week of installing it in my rig, I remember another new driver came out which optimized several other new games for my card.

    I have heard that things have since improved with AMD, but a quick search reveals that the internet seems to remember many people during that period of time having problems like the one described above.


  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    Really, drivers didnt reelase specifically for 5770?

    What kind of nonsense is that? rofl

    This kind of lies are REALLY transparent.

    And if you do internet search on Fermi....youll find some REALLY interesting stuff.

    GTX480 (plenty of videos like that as they were literally set on fire)



    And guess what, i had Fermi too (MSI 460 HAWK). And i had to keep 10+ different driver versions and install them on per game basis because otherwise games worked VERY badly.

    So stop your lies.


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  • XyireXyire Member UncommonPosts: 152
    Dullahan said:
    Malabooga said:

    Dullahan said:
    Unlike the problems AMD/ATI historically had, old Nvidia video cards still have excellent support and compatibility years later.

    I used a gtx 480 for about 5 years flawlessly. I purchased it because my 2 yr old radeon from the same year could not run 2 different games I was playing without serious issues and hadn't had a driver update in about 8 months.

    I still have that 480 as a physx processor.
    You are lying because until recently AMD had monthly WHQL driver updates and way more frequent driver updates until this NVIdia "game ready" rebranded drivers PR BS (well now AMD has that too). They also had alternative Omega drivers which were pretty famous (and few less known) which were result of more open approach.

    NVidia historically had WAY more problems.
    Sorry, but your revisionist fanboy crap does not hold up to scrutiny.

    I had a 5770 (released in 2010) back in 2012. I had some severe graphical issues in Age of Wushu among other games. Naturally, I can't find the history of drivers released for that card, during that time period, but it definitely happened. Whatever they were releasing, it did not specifically update the 5000 series and the problems I had were shared by many.

    I found a bitcoin farmer on craigslist that offered me a gtx 480 in a straight up trade. The card played all my games flawlessly on a driver that was less than 2 or 3 months old. Within a week of installing it in my rig, I remember another new driver came out which optimized several other new games for my card.

    I have heard that things have since improved with AMD, but a quick search reveals that the internet seems to remember many people during that period of time having problems like the one described above.
    Don't bother arguing Dullahan, he has a serious agenda.  Just talks in hyperbole and attacks everyone that disagrees without even trying to support his claims. Insists anyone who disagrees is a liar.  :) 

    As for driver support, I have a gtx 260 that still runs the latest games, though a bit slow these days.  It doesn't have any problems running diablo 3, that's all it really gets used for these days.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    oooh, look, support for liars. too bad he cannot "historically" cover his lies. Its pretty obvious who has agenda here.

    Historically NVidia had much more issues and i have owned many cards from both sides (and even more sides if you count S3 Virge) and currently have NVidia (which will get swapped again soon because of its terrible DX12 performance)
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited July 2016
    Well it has happened, Maxwell 900 series has been moved to legacy too.

    http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html?ClickID=ceefkes4nffn744xza74nxskfzizsfevansn

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,998
    edited July 2016
    Malabooga said:
    Well it has happened, Maxwell 900 series has been moved to legacy too.

    http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html?ClickID=ceefkes4nffn744xza74nxskfzizsfevansn

    It still only means manufacturing/sales.

    Still nothing to do with ending driver support. NVidia's newest drivers still support everything from Geforce 400 series, as seen here: 
     http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/105033
     
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    Sure they do. They just dont do anything.
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    700 series moved to legacy ? Wow.. that's surprising. And premature to say the least as these cards still hold very well.

    My brother owns a 780 Ti 3GB card. At 1080p it plays anything with everything max out with no problem at all. For example, The Witcher III at ultra settings except hairworks scores a steady 50fps.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,998
    Shodanas said:
    700 series moved to legacy ? Wow.. that's surprising. And premature to say the least as these cards still hold very well.

    My brother owns a 780 Ti 3GB card. At 1080p it plays anything with everything max out with no problem at all. For example, The Witcher III at ultra settings except hairworks scores a steady 50fps.
    @Shodanas

    The driver is not moved to legacy. Malabooga is just an AMD fan who posts list of NVidia's "Previous Generation Products", and claims that NVidia not actively manufacturing/selling a card any more means it wouldn't have any driver updates either.

    NVidia's newest drivers still support everything since GeForce 400 series.

    Their true legacy drivers are for GeForce 300 series and earlier, but even those still get some updates. Last update for those drivers was in March.

    Malabooga is an AMD fanboy who lies to people so that people with GeForce cards would think they get no longer support, and buy a new AMD card instead. But he's just lying.
     
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited July 2016
    Shodanas said:
    700 series moved to legacy ? Wow.. that's surprising. And premature to say the least as these cards still hold very well.

    My brother owns a 780 Ti 3GB card. At 1080p it plays anything with everything max out with no problem at all. For example, The Witcher III at ultra settings except hairworks scores a steady 50fps.
    700 series was move a while ago, 900 series has just been moved to legacy.

    Dont listen to NVidia propaganda fanboys (and just cannot grasp their beloved company might be flawed) there has been plenty of evidence what NVidia does to their older generations of cards, since they rely so much on software, if theres no software support (in form of drivers) performance will suffer greatly compared to what is supposed to be similar performance point new gen card. Yes games will still work, but not as they should when objectively compared to how it is supposed to perform.

    As far as NVidia is concerned, Kepler (600&700 series) and Maxwell (750/ti and 900 series) are officially EOL products. They will make sure that games do work, but how they work is not their concern any more, Pascal is where their money lies now.
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Malabooga said:
    Shodanas said:
    700 series moved to legacy ? Wow.. that's surprising. And premature to say the least as these cards still hold very well.

    My brother owns a 780 Ti 3GB card. At 1080p it plays anything with everything max out with no problem at all. For example, The Witcher III at ultra settings except hairworks scores a steady 50fps.
    700 series was move a while ago, 900 series has just been moved to legacy.
    So, my 970 is now considered as a legacy product ? 
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Once the 14/16 nm lineups are out and prices settle down, the only point in getting 28 nm or older cards will be for situations where:

    a)  you need something cheap that works and don't need much performance
    b)  the priority is getting something identical to what you previously had, even at the expense of price/performance

    For the former, you might get something like this and just be happy that it can display the desktop and decode videos because you don't care about games:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202199
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500392

    Option (b) isn't for consumer gaming PCs, but can apply where it's easier to maintain 100 computers with identical hardware configurations than 100 computers with 100 different hardware configurations--or numbers much larger than 100.
  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Dullahan said:
    Unlike the problems AMD/ATI historically had, old Nvidia video cards still have excellent support and compatibility years later.
    I kept a 4790 and after that a 6870 for years, with zero issues and problems.
    The 4790 was sold to a happy new owner, and the 6870 is in my mother's PC right now still running smooth as a baby's ass.

    So, whatever you say, dude.
    Ya, I'm sure she is doing a lot of gaming that would actually test the limitations of the drivers. :grin:


  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    Shodanas said:
    Malabooga said:
    Shodanas said:
    700 series moved to legacy ? Wow.. that's surprising. And premature to say the least as these cards still hold very well.

    My brother owns a 780 Ti 3GB card. At 1080p it plays anything with everything max out with no problem at all. For example, The Witcher III at ultra settings except hairworks scores a steady 50fps.
    700 series was move a while ago, 900 series has just been moved to legacy.
    So, my 970 is now considered as a legacy product ? 
    http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html?ClickID=ceefkes4nffn744xza74nxskfzizsfevansn

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Malabooga said:
    Shodanas said:
    Malabooga said:
    Shodanas said:
    700 series moved to legacy ? Wow.. that's surprising. And premature to say the least as these cards still hold very well.

    My brother owns a 780 Ti 3GB card. At 1080p it plays anything with everything max out with no problem at all. For example, The Witcher III at ultra settings except hairworks scores a steady 50fps.
    700 series was move a while ago, 900 series has just been moved to legacy.
    So, my 970 is now considered as a legacy product ? 
    http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html?ClickID=ceefkes4nffn744xza74nxskfzizsfevansn

    If you get the latest drivers on the 900 series and check what else it supports, it goes all the way back to the 400 series:

    http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/105037

    They're not optimizing drivers for Kepler anymore and haven't in quite some time, but they'll still fix any critical bugs that show up.  That's in contrast to the pre-2010 cards for which driver support really is over and what you can get now is all there is.
  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940
    Dullahan said:
    Dullahan said:
    Unlike the problems AMD/ATI historically had, old Nvidia video cards still have excellent support and compatibility years later.
    I kept a 4790 and after that a 6870 for years, with zero issues and problems.
    The 4790 was sold to a happy new owner, and the 6870 is in my mother's PC right now still running smooth as a baby's ass.

    So, whatever you say, dude.
    Ya, I'm sure she is doing a lot of gaming that would actually test the limitations of the drivers. :grin:
    I used both a 6850 and a 7770 to run current games, the 6850 until recently (like a year ago), the 7770 is still in use. No problems. Of course, not playing The Witcher 3 on ultra details or anything, but you can't do that with a 400 or 500 series either, no matter which driver you use.

    I also wouldn't discount his mother outright. I know several people that i bet are older than at least 95% of the MMORPG user base, and probably older than the parents of half the user base who are heavy into gaming.

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