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Fallout 4 Xbox One mods draw 50 times more traffic than on PC

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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414
    The comparison isn't really that great. First the most downloaded mod adds some basic functionality the PC user already had. The Cheat Menu. Second most PC mod users go to the Nexus because there are some things that cannot be released through Bethesda.net. Like adding back achievements when using mods. Mod organizers and error fixers. Graphic enhancement mods. Script extenders. Injectors to get the graphics to display more efficiently, and so forth.
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    I have played hundreds of hours of Skyrim and Fallout, mostly extensively modded, and I didn't even know that Bethesda had an "official" mod site. I've always used Nexus as my go-to for mods.

    Hence I'm not even slightly surprised to see that console traffic vastly exceeded PC traffic on the "official" mod site. Most PC players would be using Nexus, and have been for years.
  • emotaemota Member UncommonPosts: 413
    Consoles are the future
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    emota said:
    Consoles are the future
    You mean because consoles are rapidly evolving into "upgradeable" budget-PC's with a XBox or Playstation logo on the outside ? :D 
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    I have to wonder how the almost 82,000,000 downloads for the PC version of FO4 on Nexus would affect that comparison.
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    I have to wonder how the almost 82,000,000 downloads for the PC version of FO4 on Nexus would affect that comparison.
    Probably quite a bit but at the same time having mod support on consoles is a good thing for developers and gamers alike. Regardless of the PC vs Console silliness, it is awesome to see it doing well and have it finally brought to the home consoles for those players.
    My favorite game of all time has been Skyrim. My daughter loves to play Oblivion and wanted to play Skyrim too. so she bought Skyrim on Xbox and hates it. Mods totally change a game. I wish they could get a mods for Skyrim on consoles. 
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
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    Soooo they're tracking the Nexus?  Cause that's where 90% of mod traffic is for PC.

    In fact, I just checked the Nexus a second ago.  81 million mods downloaded just for Fallout 4.  Skyrim has 922 million downloads of mods.  New Vegas 150 million.

    There's an official mod site?  Who uses that shit?
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  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    H0urg1ass said:
    Soooo they're tracking the Nexus?  Cause that's where 90% of mod traffic is for PC.

    In fact, I just checked the Nexus a second ago.  81 million mods downloaded just for Fallout 4.  Skyrim has 922 million downloads of mods.  New Vegas 150 million.

    There's an official mod site?  Who uses that shit?
    I think Bethesda was just saying to Microsoft and Sony "Look! Mods DO work and can be popular on consoles" Those two companies have resisted for so long to allow developers to do that.
    This is an announcement of validation not one in which the PC folk argue over where the majority of mods come from.
    No matter what we want, this thread will devolve into PC vs Console, so I'm just laying out the facts that there's no way they're even remotely close to PC's.

    But yes, mods should have been on consoles for at least half a decade now.  It's stupid that they haven't.
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  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    Torval said:
    Is it cool to hate on it because it's official? Is Nexus where all the elite hipsters hang out?

    Huh?  What?  Do you even know what a hipster is?  The Nexus is the premier site for mods.  It's the modding Wal-Mart.  Hipster-ville is over at the Bethesda whole foods mart that's only open on Sunday morning and has 5 people standing around bad mouthing the Nexus.  I mean who wants that kind of choice anyways.  We may have less than half the mods that Nexus does, but ours are special.

    Torval said:
    The official community site is pretty nice. It's easy to find mods. There is a forum for various community discussions. And most of all they aren't hounding you to "donate", or turn off the adblocker, or going through a bunch of bad advert drama because they're switching adservers and they're serving up a bunch of crap.
    Hounding to donate?  You literally get a single window that pops up on rare mods.  You click download, you click no thanks.  It probably doesn't even burn a single calorie for that second click.  

    Turn off adblocker?  I've never seen a single message on Nexus and I run adblocker 24/7.  You wanna see something that's intrusive when it comes to adblocker, go try to read an article on Forbes with it on.  That's a ridiculous site.  They won't even let you past the splash page if you have it running.

    Torval said:
    If Bethesda didn't offer mod hosting and community support they would be labeled as lazy greedy bastards that don't care about the community. They do offer them and they're spurned and called shit. Amazing.
    If Bethesda didn't offer mod hosting then almost no one would care.  The Nexus formed years and years before Bethesda and has been a clearing house for dozens of games, most especially Bethesda games.

    In fact, Console users would be better off if Bethesda hadn't gotten involved at all and the Nexus had worked out a modding deal instead.  They've have more mod choices and no censorship.  You can bet your eyeballs that Bethesda will be censoring mods on their site.  Which is sad because the CBBE mod for Skyrim and FO4 is one of the best.
    Torval said:
    Well they are now and they're popular. Bethesda has made a good effort and provided a pretty nice site to share, discuss, and locate them that doesn't ask for money.
    Yep, they've recreated the wheel and they've removed the need to burn that 1/100th of a calorie that it takes to click 'no thanks'.

    Torval said:
    Their games sell extremely well on console. While the official mod site may not be as popular as nexus now, it could very well become a great place to publish. Unless a mod site has an exclusivity rule there is no reason a modder couldn't publish in multiple places for more exposure.
    Well of course it will become popular, it's not like Bethesda is working to open up the Nexus to console users. Now maybe if MS and Sony stop being pants-on-head ridiculous, then they'd figure out a way to work with the Nexus themselves.

    It's all a moot point anyhow if both of the the next gen consoles are PC's with MS and Sony corporate branding on them, which is how it's starting to look.  Cause if that becomes a reality, then the Nexus will become the premier site for 'consoles' too.  
  • PyndaPynda Member UncommonPosts: 856
    edited June 2016
    Sounds good to me. Mods of questionable taste or content can be easily excluded, and it creates a platform that can readily be updated to a "pay for mods" format in the future. All features which console players should feel right at home with, and which they richly deserve.
  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    It's like a supply drop landing in a village full of starving children.
    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
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  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    H0urg1ass said:
      The Nexus formed years and years before Bethesda and has been a clearing house for dozens of games, most especially Bethesda games.


    Nexus Mods was initially founded by Robin Scott and a friend in August 2001 as a fan site for the Bethesda Softworks game The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind under the name of Morrowind Chronicles.[1] After the success of Morrowind Chronicles, Scott and the friend he was working alongside founded a company by the name of GamingSource and created the website TESSource, which allowed users to upload their modifications and content for games in The Elder Scrolls video game series. Scott soon became tired with the revenue of the websites being split when he was operating the websites by himself, and made the decision to break away from TESSource in 2007 and founded his own website under the name of TESNexus. Scott made use of the TESSource website with his new venture, and had large success again. This success has resulted in more than 200 additional games being supported.[7] Scott has indicated that the Nexus sites will remain free of corporate investment in the foreseeable future.[8] Instead their stream of revenue comes from advertisements and premium accounts.



    Actually without Bethesda, Nexus would not be around. It was started for Morrowind.
    It was not around before Bethesda.  You are wrong.
    Apparently you misinterpreted what I wrote.  Nexus providing access to modding has been around for longer than Bethesda providing access to modding.  I mean the subject is modding and access to modding, correct? I simply figured that would be a subjectively understood point by virtue of the topic.

    But way to go out of your way writing a paper to show that the Nexus was started after Bethesda existed.
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  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    blueturtle13 said:

    The Nexus formed years and years before Bethesda and has been a clearing house for dozens of games, most especially Bethesda games."


    Just calling you on your B.S. you made a mistake and then tried to say
    'Well you knew what I meant even though I said it wrong'
    I made no mistake at all.  You're taking one sentence out of context of the entire post and losing your mind over it.  Either we're talking about modding access, which is the topic of your post, or we're talking about the origins of businesses.  I've been using the Nexus since Oblivion, I know damn well when it formed and I've survived many of the headaches along the way.  To claim I don't over one sentence you misinterpreted is patently absurd.

    You are the one writing a paper in response to Torval over console mods you obviously have no use for so the fact that you are talking about and even arguing about it is just trolling. Not to mention all you did was bring up the same point that had already been made over and over and over again before you ever responded. Just leave the thread be. It obviously does not apply to you nor was meant for you.
    Doom and Gloom! Doom and Gloom!
    Torval was wrong on nearly every point he made.  He took it personal, for some weird reason as if he owns Bethesda or something, that I said no one is using that shit.  Why does he care?  Even if I thought it was stupid, which I don't, does he think Bethesda is reading this thread with their finger on the 'shutdown' button. Oh shit, H0urg1ass called us out on our bullshit figures!  SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT DOWN! lol?  There was no need for his weird drama bomb.

    I do have use for console mods, I own a PS4 which my son predominantly uses when I'm not racing on it, and he plays all of the Bethesda titles on them.  He and I have been lamenting the fact that we can't mod the PS games for years. Now we can both find and use good mods and recommend them to each other.

    There's no doom and gloom, where'd you even get that from?
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    Holy Batshit Fatman! Who knew this would be such a touchy subject. So finally someone has convinced the console market that allowing your players creative freedom is a good thing. Huzzah.
    I will never again on these forums utter the words "who uses that shit?"  If I had known what kind of drama bomb it would set off, then I'd just let Bethesda's bullshit figures slide.
  • cronius77cronius77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,652
    I use nexus but I also remember the fiasco that was paid mods for skyrim and when people who modded skyrim took a stance against bethesda and steams greediness, it got plenty of folks banned on nexus to by nexus staff. Never again will I look at nexus the same way after some of the shitty comments their troll staff made. 
  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    We can kinda just quote the numbers on the Nexus' front page for the PC DL count.

    11.5k files
    81.6m downloads

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