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And this is whats wrong with "tech review sites"

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  • scorpex-xscorpex-x Member RarePosts: 1,030
    edited June 2016
    Malabooga said:

    http://www.bitsandchips.it/9-hardware/7104-la-ventola-della-founder-edition-mette-in-cattiva-luce-la-gtx1080


    "Nvidia Bribing the Tech Sites for showing Nvidia Favor is real.

    " Below you will read what they think the reviewer Tom's Hardware US, Chris Angelini, the reference heat sink of Radeon R9 290x and GeForce 1080.

    Review of R9 290x : " You're free to manually specify Certainly higher maximum fan speeds than the 40% I used, but it's pretty telling That even AMD's Uber mode stops at 55%. Again, we're dealing with a reference cooler That makes a lot of noise once it gets going . " In Quiet Mode the fan produces 45.2 decibels.

    Review of the 1080 GTX : " It's a nice broad whooshing / airflow noise, and the fan's motor can never really be picked out. This is a lot better than the cheap axial fans That AMD used to put on its reference design s". The fan of GTX1080 produces 46.8 decibels.

    According to Angelini, the 46,8db of GTX1080FE are less noisy of 45,2db of R9 290x."



    No offense but did you just realize this? almost all games and tech journalism is tainted.  Money, access and favors rule all.  Ideals go out the window after a few years when you realize how much money you can make being a sellout.

    Even people you can trust will usually succumb later on as they become more popular and as such get more pressure put on them.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    scorpex-x said:
    Malabooga said:

    http://www.bitsandchips.it/9-hardware/7104-la-ventola-della-founder-edition-mette-in-cattiva-luce-la-gtx1080


    "Nvidia Bribing the Tech Sites for showing Nvidia Favor is real.

    " Below you will read what they think the reviewer Tom's Hardware US, Chris Angelini, the reference heat sink of Radeon R9 290x and GeForce 1080.

    Review of R9 290x : " You're free to manually specify Certainly higher maximum fan speeds than the 40% I used, but it's pretty telling That even AMD's Uber mode stops at 55%. Again, we're dealing with a reference cooler That makes a lot of noise once it gets going . " In Quiet Mode the fan produces 45.2 decibels.

    Review of the 1080 GTX : " It's a nice broad whooshing / airflow noise, and the fan's motor can never really be picked out. This is a lot better than the cheap axial fans That AMD used to put on its reference design s". The fan of GTX1080 produces 46.8 decibels.

    According to Angelini, the 46,8db of GTX1080FE are less noisy of 45,2db of R9 290x."



    No offense but did you just realize this? almost all games and tech journalism is tainted.  Money, access and favors rule all.  Ideals go out the window after a few years when you realize how much money you can make being a sellout.

    Even people you can trust will usually succumb later on as they become more popular and as such get more pressure put on them.
    I am aware, but you see that theres still people with agendas that will defend this fiercly (2 just in this thread)
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916
    You can't trust tech review sites because random unknown review site X has called-out well-known and trusted review site Y !

    Lol, yeah, riiiight...

    Of course there's no chance that random unknown review site X might be trying to become tomorrow's well-known and trusted review site X (using any means possible) !

    But hey, every internet-pro knows you never trust the popular version of anything !
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    All tech review sites have a bias, to various degrees at least, its probably more pronounced however, if it conflicts with the bias of the person viewing the tech review site. :p
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    DKLond said:
    As I pointed out, the 46,8 was during a torture test.
    Again, the entire premise of this paranoid criticism has been completely invalidated.
    Both are during torture test, youve been proven to have hidden agenda and cannot be trusted.

    You can't trust tech review sites because random unknown review site X has called-out well-known and trusted review site Y !

    Lol, yeah, riiiight...

    Of course there's no chance that random unknown review site X might be trying to become tomorrow's well-known and trusted review site X (using any means possible) !

    But hey, every internet-pro knows you never trust the popular version of anything !
    Bits n Chips has existed longer than you even imagine and they dont care they are enthusiast site. Thats why they dont fear to write articles like this they arent sponsored by anyone

    Phry said:
    All tech review sites have a bias, to various degrees at least, its probably more pronounced however, if it conflicts with the bias of the person viewing the tech review site. :p

    You are welocme to report any BS like this, in fact i encourage people to report any BS like this.
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Malabooga said:
    DKLond said:
    As I pointed out, the 46,8 was during a torture test.
    Again, the entire premise of this paranoid criticism has been completely invalidated.
    Both are during torture test, youve been proven to have hidden agenda and cannot be trusted.

    You can't trust tech review sites because random unknown review site X has called-out well-known and trusted review site Y !

    Lol, yeah, riiiight...

    Of course there's no chance that random unknown review site X might be trying to become tomorrow's well-known and trusted review site X (using any means possible) !

    But hey, every internet-pro knows you never trust the popular version of anything !
    Bits n Cjips has existed longer than you even imagine and they dont care they are enthusiast site. Thats why they dont fear to write articles like this they arent sponsored by anyone

    Phry said:
    All tech review sites have a bias, to various degrees at least, its probably more pronounced however, if it conflicts with the bias of the person viewing the tech review site. :p

    You are welocme to report any BS like this, in fact i encourage people to report any BS like this.
    So, quiet mode is during torture tests? ;)

    Sure.

    Again, here:

    AMD's noise level was 45.2 decibels on quiet mode. On 100% test the card reached 72.9 dB(A).

    It's not rocket science.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    lol, and AGAIN you prove you have no clue what youre talking about (aka hidden agenda)

    45,2 db WAS in torture test, 72 was on 100% fan. Its right there in the article for anyone to read it.

    Unfortunately youre either totally dumb or have hidden agenda and spread false information.

    But its really easy to see which is it:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290x-hawaii-review,3650-30.html

    "Right upfront: the cooler's moderate stock setting and the GPU's high target temperature make for a relatively quiet card, so long as you don't mess with it."

    Quiet Mode (Default)
    idle: 33.4 dB(A)
    load: 45.2 dB(A)

    your agendas and false information have no power here. You can go and spread your crap somewhere else.
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Malabooga said:
    lol, and AGAIN you prove you have no clue what youre talking about (aka hidden agenda)

    45,2 db WAS in torture test, 72 was on 100% fan. Its right there in the article for anyone to read it.

    Unfortunately youre either totally dumb or have hidden agenda and spread false information.
    Why don't you just provide the quote from the article where it says what you're claiming?
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    DKLond said:
    Malabooga said:
    lol, and AGAIN you prove you have no clue what youre talking about (aka hidden agenda)

    45,2 db WAS in torture test, 72 was on 100% fan. Its right there in the article for anyone to read it.

    Unfortunately youre either totally dumb or have hidden agenda and spread false information.
    Why don't you just provide the quote from the article where it says what you're claiming?
    rofl its right there in the table. dont play dumb now.

    Quiet Mode (Default)
    33.4 dB(A)
    45.2 dB(A)
    Uber Mode (Default)
    34.1 dB(A)
    51.2 dB(A)
    +25% Power Limit + 70 °C Target Temperature
    Fan Speed up to 100%
    34.3 dB(A)
    72.9 dB(A)

    You two have 2-3 have shown youhave hidden agendas, spread false information and cannot be trusted. Thank aou for that:

    Vrika
    DKLond
    Gdemani
    Post edited by Malabooga on
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Malabooga said:
    DKLond said:
    Malabooga said:
    lol, and AGAIN you prove you have no clue what youre talking about (aka hidden agenda)

    45,2 db WAS in torture test, 72 was on 100% fan. Its right there in the article for anyone to read it.

    Unfortunately youre either totally dumb or have hidden agenda and spread false information.
    Why don't you just provide the quote from the article where it says what you're claiming?
    rofl its right there in the table. dont play dumb now.

    Quiet Mode (Default)
    33.4 dB(A)
    45.2 dB(A)
    Uber Mode (Default)
    34.1 dB(A)
    51.2 dB(A)
    +25% Power Limit + 70 °C Target Temperature
    Fan Speed up to 100%
    34.3 dB(A)
    72.9 dB(A)


    Where does it say quiet mode was during a torture test?

    I can't quite spot that in the quote.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    DKLond said:
    Malabooga said:
    DKLond said:
    Malabooga said:
    lol, and AGAIN you prove you have no clue what youre talking about (aka hidden agenda)

    45,2 db WAS in torture test, 72 was on 100% fan. Its right there in the article for anyone to read it.

    Unfortunately youre either totally dumb or have hidden agenda and spread false information.
    Why don't you just provide the quote from the article where it says what you're claiming?
    rofl its right there in the table. dont play dumb now.

    Quiet Mode (Default)
    33.4 dB(A)
    45.2 dB(A)
    Uber Mode (Default)
    34.1 dB(A)
    51.2 dB(A)
    +25% Power Limit + 70 °C Target Temperature
    Fan Speed up to 100%
    34.3 dB(A)
    72.9 dB(A)


    Where does it say quiet mode was during a torture test?

    I can't quite spot that in the quote.
    Because thats how cards were tested lol

    There was NO gaming tests back then.

    In fact many sites dont have gaming test even today, just idle and torture because its still standard.

    And for everyone "but its this kind of nois not that kind" definition of dB(A):

    "The human hearing system has different sensitivities at different frequencies. This means that the perception of noise is not at all equal at every frequency. Noise with significant measured levels (in dB) at high or low frequencies will not be as annoying as it would be when its energy is concentrated in the middle frequencies. In other words, the measured noise levels in dB will not reflect the actual human perception of the loudness of the noise. That's why we measure the dBA level. A specific circuit is added to the sound level meter to correct its reading in regard to this concept. This reading is the noise level in dBA. The letter A is added to indicate the correction that was made in the measurement. Frequencies below 1 kHz and above 6 kHz are attenuated, whereas frequencies between 1 kHz and 6 kHz are amplified by the A weighting."

    290x:
    Quiet Mode (Default)
    33.4 dB(A)
    45.2 dB(A)

    1080FE:
    noise rises to 46.8 dB(A).

    "This is a lot better than the cheap axial fans that AMD used to put on its reference designs (and that some partners still use). In comparison, the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080’s noise is tolerable."


    Well, theres mass RMAs going on because of poor cooler/fan so it blew up in their face, just be wary of "tech review sites". And probably buy cards that you can RMA, especially 700$ ones.
    Post edited by Malabooga on
  • DKLondDKLond Member RarePosts: 2,273
    Malabooga said:
    DKLond said:
    Malabooga said:
    DKLond said:
    Malabooga said:
    lol, and AGAIN you prove you have no clue what youre talking about (aka hidden agenda)

    45,2 db WAS in torture test, 72 was on 100% fan. Its right there in the article for anyone to read it.

    Unfortunately youre either totally dumb or have hidden agenda and spread false information.
    Why don't you just provide the quote from the article where it says what you're claiming?
    rofl its right there in the table. dont play dumb now.

    Quiet Mode (Default)
    33.4 dB(A)
    45.2 dB(A)
    Uber Mode (Default)
    34.1 dB(A)
    51.2 dB(A)
    +25% Power Limit + 70 °C Target Temperature
    Fan Speed up to 100%
    34.3 dB(A)
    72.9 dB(A)


    Where does it say quiet mode was during a torture test?

    I can't quite spot that in the quote.
    Because thats how cards were tested lol

    There was NO gaming tests back then.

    In fact many sites dont have gaming test even today, just idle and torture because its still standard.
    Oh, so you're not only unreliable and rude - you're also a liar who can't back up his claims.

    Shocking :)
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    DKLond said:
    Oh, so you're not only unreliable and rude - you're also a liar who can't back up his claims.

    Shocking :)
    Stop spamming the thread with your nonsense. Youve been exposed along with Vrika and Gdemani.
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    edited June 2016
    Which is why I'm always surprised when people say to wait for the new cards to come out.
    Yes.....wait for the new cards to come out then the one you really want drops in price!
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,999
    edited June 2016
    Malabooga said:

    Nvidia Bribing the Tech Sites for showing Nvidia Favor is real.

    Below you will read what they think the reviewer Tom's Hardware US, Chris Angelini....

    I'd like to ask a question: Why did NVidia bribe Tom's Hardware to give Radeon 290X their elite award? It was quite a recommendation to the card, when at the end of review the reviewer says it's the first time a graphic card was given the award during the time she worked at Tom's Hardware.

    @Malabooga, why does NVidia bribe Tom's Hardware to give AMD awards?
     
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited June 2016
    They were as full of it then as they are now, both coolers are bad. Except that was over 2 and a half years ago an this 1080 one is today.
  • MikePaladinMikePaladin Member UncommonPosts: 592
    edited June 2016
    Stock GPU cooling never where that great Gigabyte  on the other hand had some of the best
    Post edited by MikePaladin on
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