The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Currently they said they will give them to folks with Alpha 2 access or above. So $200 and up.
Im sure they will sell it as an add on too but no price is advised.
Well lets actually quote what was said: -
"While it will initially be "pre-alpha" quality and as such be released to our Alpha 1 backers and high influencers only, it also serves as an introduction to the world and the story. In fact, the events of the Prologue are quite significant and take place approximately five Elyrian years before the start of Exposition. As a result, at some point before Exposition we will make the Prologue available for all backers to play."
So....before exposition all backers will get to play the prologue.
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
So before V3.0 of the website all backers will get to play the Kingdoms of Elyria.
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
So before pre-Alpha all backers will get to play the MUD.
So a backer gets access to ALL THREE games by default without spending any more money.
Backer is an exsiting customer...so please, what NEW opportunities for monetization are YOU talking about?
Because, on the surface, it looks like you are spreading lies and I would like you to have a chance to provide evidence backing up your statement.
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Wait until they finish building their online fundraising webshop.
Y'know, that ready-made webshop they bought so they didn't have to build one themselves.
I have no shadow of a doubt that there will be a variety of funding packages with differing tiers of benefits on offer once they get the webshop done. These "additional access options" will fit nicely into the funding packages...
And you know this...how?
Or are you making a guess and using the most negative language you can find to give it your spin of hate?
WHY?
Why waste your time here shitting on something you obviously have disdain for?
Why not walk away and enjoy something instead of trying to shit all over the game and it's supporters. I honestly don't know 1 negative person in my life and this website is filled with them!
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Currently they said they will give them to folks with Alpha 2 access or above. So $200 and up.
Im sure they will sell it as an add on too but no price is advised.
Well lets actually quote what was said: -
"While it will initially be "pre-alpha" quality and as such be released to our Alpha 1 backers and high influencers only, it also serves as an introduction to the world and the story. In fact, the events of the Prologue are quite significant and take place approximately five Elyrian years before the start of Exposition. As a result, at some point before Exposition we will make the Prologue available for all backers to play."
So....before exposition all backers will get to play the prologue.
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
So before V3.0 of the website all backers will get to play the Kingdoms of Elyria.
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
So before pre-Alpha all backers will get to play the MUD.
So a backer gets access to ALL THREE games by default without spending any more money.
Backer is an exsiting customer...so please, what NEW opportunities for monetization are YOU talking about?
Because, on the surface, it looks like you are spreading lies and I would like you to have a chance to provide evidence backing up your statement.
Hi! Here is the exact quote I used which is right from their Kickstarter page...
---------------------- And finally, pre-Alpha (alpha 1) will not be the first opportunity players have to experience or impact Elyria. With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more will have an opportunity to write the history of Elyria almost 100 years before, and leading up to, the beginning of the official game. ----------------------
I don't know if you think THEY are lying but what they said was " Alpha 2+ backers" get in. Which is exactly what I said. They also said "then perhaps more" which could mean more backers, new people who buy it, or nobody.
Have a GREAT day/evening!
edit to put dashes around the quote
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
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The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Wait until they finish building their online fundraising webshop.
Y'know, that ready-made webshop they bought so they didn't have to build one themselves.
I have no shadow of a doubt that there will be a variety of funding packages with differing tiers of benefits on offer once they get the webshop done. These "additional access options" will fit nicely into the funding packages...
And you know this...how?
....
Because it makes sense.
CoE is not going to be built with $1.3M. They need to raise a lot more money than that.
They obviously know this, otherwise their first announced development to go-live post-KS would not have been an online store...
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Wait until they finish building their online fundraising webshop.
Y'know, that ready-made webshop they bought so they didn't have to build one themselves.
I have no shadow of a doubt that there will be a variety of funding packages with differing tiers of benefits on offer once they get the webshop done. These "additional access options" will fit nicely into the funding packages...
And you know this...how?
....
Because it makes sense.
CoE is not going to be built with $1.3M. They need to raise a lot more money than that.
They obviously know this, otherwise their first announced development to go-live post-KS would not have been an online store...
Makes sense to you but you have a bitter bias (that is the only way I can make sense of your negativity). Why I do not know, most people are bitter about games that got cancelled as they have memories that have been disturbed....how on earth can you get so biased and anti when the game has only just got past the KS stage?
And they have repeatedly laid out their plans for funding way beyond the KS campaign. They have spoken quite freely about their other partners, other revenues post KS and the plans for the online store to allow, among other things, people from Europe who couldn't fund the KS campaign due to payment restrictions with KS.
If you don't know because you have issues and only look for the negatives then it is no wonder you have jumped to this 'faulty' conclusion. But please stop spreading falsehoods and just walk away if you don't like things.
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Currently they said they will give them to folks with Alpha 2 access or above. So $200 and up.
Im sure they will sell it as an add on too but no price is advised.
Well lets actually quote what was said: -
"While it will initially be "pre-alpha" quality and as such be released to our Alpha 1 backers and high influencers only, it also serves as an introduction to the world and the story. In fact, the events of the Prologue are quite significant and take place approximately five Elyrian years before the start of Exposition. As a result, at some point before Exposition we will make the Prologue available for all backers to play."
So....before exposition all backers will get to play the prologue.
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
So before V3.0 of the website all backers will get to play the Kingdoms of Elyria.
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
So before pre-Alpha all backers will get to play the MUD.
So a backer gets access to ALL THREE games by default without spending any more money.
Backer is an exsiting customer...so please, what NEW opportunities for monetization are YOU talking about?
Because, on the surface, it looks like you are spreading lies and I would like you to have a chance to provide evidence backing up your statement.
Hi! Here is the exact quote I used which is right from their Kickstarter page...
---------------------- And finally, pre-Alpha (alpha 1) will not be the first opportunity players have to experience or impact Elyria. With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more will have an opportunity to write the history of Elyria almost 100 years before, and leading up to, the beginning of the official game. ----------------------
I don't know if you think THEY are lying but what they said was " Alpha 2+ backers" get in. Which is exactly what I said. They also said "then perhaps more" which could mean more backers, new people who buy it, or nobody.
Have a GREAT day/evening!
edit to put dashes around the quote
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
Did you just ignore the quotes I provided? Please read what I wrote!
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
OK please can you clarify which TWO revenue sources you are talking about because ALL THREE, the Prologue, Kingdoms of Elyria and the MUD are free to backers...
Are you purposefully ignoring what I write and what is published on their KS page?????
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Wait until they finish building their online fundraising webshop.
Y'know, that ready-made webshop they bought so they didn't have to build one themselves.
I have no shadow of a doubt that there will be a variety of funding packages with differing tiers of benefits on offer once they get the webshop done. These "additional access options" will fit nicely into the funding packages...
And you know this...how?
....
Because it makes sense.
CoE is not going to be built with $1.3M. They need to raise a lot more money than that.
They obviously know this, otherwise their first announced development to go-live post-KS would not have been an online store...
Makes sense to you but you have a bitter bias (that is the only way I can make sense of your negativity). Why I do not know, most people are bitter about games that got cancelled as they have memories that have been disturbed....how on earth can you get so biased and anti when the game has only just got past the KS stage?
And they have repeatedly laid out their plans for funding way beyond the KS campaign. They have spoken quite freely about their other partners, other revenues post KS and the plans for the online store to allow, among other things, people from Europe who couldn't fund the KS campaign due to payment restrictions with KS.
If you don't know because you have issues and only look for the negatives then it is no wonder you have jumped to this 'faulty' conclusion. But please stop spreading falsehoods and just walk away if you don't like things.
My opinion is not a "falsehood", it's my opinion.
You may disagree with my opinion, and you're welcome to express that freely on these forums.
Just as I'll continue to express my scepticism regarding the design and timeline of CoE.
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Currently they said they will give them to folks with Alpha 2 access or above. So $200 and up.
Im sure they will sell it as an add on too but no price is advised.
Well lets actually quote what was said: -
"While it will initially be "pre-alpha" quality and as such be released to our Alpha 1 backers and high influencers only, it also serves as an introduction to the world and the story. In fact, the events of the Prologue are quite significant and take place approximately five Elyrian years before the start of Exposition.
So....before exposition all backers will get to play the prologue.
So before V3.0 of the website all backers will get to play the Kingdoms of Elyria.
So before pre-Alpha all backers will get to play the MUD.
So a backer gets access to ALL THREE games by default without spending any more money.
Backer is an exsiting customer...so please, what NEW opportunities for monetization are YOU talking about?
Because, on the surface, it looks like you are spreading lies and I would like you to have a chance to provide evidence backing up your statement.
Hi! Here is the exact quote I used which is right from their Kickstarter page...
---------------------- And finally, pre-Alpha (alpha 1) will not be the first opportunity players have to experience or impact Elyria. With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more will have an opportunity to write the history of Elyria almost 100 years before, and leading up to, the beginning of the official game. ----------------------
I don't know if you think THEY are lying but what they said was " Alpha 2+ backers" get in. Which is exactly what I said. They also said "then perhaps more" which could mean more backers, new people who buy it, or nobody.
Have a GREAT day/evening!
edit to put dashes around the quote
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
Did you just ignore the quotes I provided? Please read what I wrote!
Did YOU?
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
Note they said PLAYERS.. not ALL PLAYERS
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
Note they said PLAYERS and not ALL PLAYERS
"With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more"
Note they said ALPHA 2+ PLAYERS.. not ALL PLAYERS
So perhaps you should be upset with them for misleading you. Please go post on the CoE forum and ask for clarification if you need it. When you find out they wordsmithed you and you fell for it, I'd hope you perhaps view them in a different light as well as come back and apologize for accusing ME of "spreading lies".
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Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
OK please can you clarify which TWO revenue sources you are talking about because ALL THREE, the Prologue, Kingdoms of Elyria and the MUD are free to backers...
Are you purposefully ignoring what I write and what is published on their KS page?????
Incorrect again
Prelude is free to backers
Kingdoms and MUD are free to Alpha 2+ backers and MAYBE other players (undefined which others might eventually have access and if there is a charge)
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
The team have just created TWO new opportunities for monetization, in addition to the original game. They're on a roll...
From what I have read these are just part of the package you receive by donating on KS. I must have missed the info where they said they were charged additions. How much will they cost?
Currently they said they will give them to folks with Alpha 2 access or above. So $200 and up.
Im sure they will sell it as an add on too but no price is advised.
Well lets actually quote what was said: -
"While it will initially be "pre-alpha" quality and as such be released to our Alpha 1 backers and high influencers only, it also serves as an introduction to the world and the story. In fact, the events of the Prologue are quite significant and take place approximately five Elyrian years before the start of Exposition.
So....before exposition all backers will get to play the prologue.
So before V3.0 of the website all backers will get to play the Kingdoms of Elyria.
So before pre-Alpha all backers will get to play the MUD.
So a backer gets access to ALL THREE games by default without spending any more money.
Backer is an exsiting customer...so please, what NEW opportunities for monetization are YOU talking about?
Because, on the surface, it looks like you are spreading lies and I would like you to have a chance to provide evidence backing up your statement.
Hi! Here is the exact quote I used which is right from their Kickstarter page...
---------------------- And finally, pre-Alpha (alpha 1) will not be the first opportunity players have to experience or impact Elyria. With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more will have an opportunity to write the history of Elyria almost 100 years before, and leading up to, the beginning of the official game. ----------------------
I don't know if you think THEY are lying but what they said was " Alpha 2+ backers" get in. Which is exactly what I said. They also said "then perhaps more" which could mean more backers, new people who buy it, or nobody.
Have a GREAT day/evening!
edit to put dashes around the quote
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
Did you just ignore the quotes I provided? Please read what I wrote!
Did YOU?
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
Note they said PLAYERS.. not ALL PLAYERS
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
Note they said PLAYERS and not ALL PLAYERS
"With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more"
Note they said ALPHA 2+ PLAYERS.. not ALL PLAYERS
So perhaps you should be upset with them for misleading you. Please go post on the CoE forum and ask for clarification if you need it. When you find out they wordsmithed you and you fell for it, I'd hope you perhaps view them in a different light as well as come back and apologize for accusing ME of "spreading lies".
It also didn't clarify that by the term 'players' it means backers of the game who will be playing it and not 'players' as in the type of person portrayed by Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder.
Jesus fucking Christ you guys really stretch things out trying to twist what is written.
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
All time classic MY NEW FAVORITE POST! (Keep laying those bricks)
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
OK please can you clarify which TWO revenue sources you are talking about because ALL THREE, the Prologue, Kingdoms of Elyria and the MUD are free to backers...
Are you purposefully ignoring what I write and what is published on their KS page?????
Incorrect again
Prelude is free to backers
Kingdoms and MUD are free to Alpha 2+ backers and MAYBE other players (undefined which others might eventually have access and if there is a charge)
I already quoted what the developers stated. Please provide quotes discouting my above quotes because I cannot see anywhere where it specifies ANY of these 3 items are restricted completely. In fact they specifically say 'access for players at some point before exposition'for Prologue, 'Sometime after' for Kingdoms and 'even before pre-alpha' for the MUD.
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
OK please can you clarify which TWO revenue sources you are talking about because ALL THREE, the Prologue, Kingdoms of Elyria and the MUD are free to backers...
Are you purposefully ignoring what I write and what is published on their KS page?????
Incorrect again
Prelude is free to backers
Kingdoms and MUD are free to Alpha 2+ backers and MAYBE other players (undefined which others might eventually have access and if there is a charge)
I already quoted what the developers stated. Please provide quotes discouting my above quotes because I cannot see anywhere where it specifies ANY of these 3 items are restricted completely. In fact they specifically say 'access for players at some point before exposition'for Prologue, 'Sometime after' for Kingdoms and 'even before pre-alpha' for the MUD.
See above post.
CHEERS!
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Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018
"Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
So now we are down to just 1 potentially being monetized....and that is only for people that are part of exposition or greater....so for people that already have paid for access to exposition where you are shaping THE KINGDOMS of Elyria....
Honestly guys, you are both reaching to post a negative here and it is very obvious you are biased so for anyone interested in this game just read EXACTLY what is written on the KS page.
So, someone appears to have found another way to encourage players to pay for the privilege of doing their quality assurance for them. A decent, modern QA automation tool could probably achieve the goals of the stated single player release, and as for the MUD and website multiplayer tests, I think some set of developers are deluding themselves that debugging either is the same as debugging / testing / proofing a finalized system.
I'd be willing to bet the credit card interface they use to accept 'backers' payments didn't receive this much testing. Or ballyhoo.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
So now we are down to just 1 potentially being monetized....and that is only for people that are part of exposition or greater....so for people that already have paid for access to exposition where you are shaping THE KINGDOMS of Elyria....
Honestly guys, you are both reaching to post a negative here and it is very obvious you are biased so for anyone interested in this game just read EXACTLY what is written on the KS page.
I wasn't implying that these additional features would be sold to existing KS backers.
I was theorizing that these features could be nicely monetized to the thousands of NEW backers that they are hoping to attract via their online store. I doubt the store is only going to sell coffeemugs and T-shirts...
CoE fundraising has now moved to Phase 2. All the "easy converts" would have been covered in the KS campaign. Now the deals have to be sweetened a bit more to convert the hold-outs...
Packaging these additional features with the different pledge tiers in the store will make the pledges more attractive, because they'll have more "perceived value" than the original KS tiers.
If you think the CoE fundraising ended with the KS campaign, that's your reality, not mine.
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
So now we are down to just 1 potentially being monetized....and that is only for people that are part of exposition or greater....so for people that already have paid for access to exposition where you are shaping THE KINGDOMS of Elyria....
Honestly guys, you are both reaching to post a negative here and it is very obvious you are biased so for anyone interested in this game just read EXACTLY what is written on the KS page.
If you think the CoE fundraising ended with the KS campaign, that's your reality, not mine.
My question is: why is that noteworthy? Is there another KS MMORPG that HASN'T continued offering pledges/tiers after their campaign ended?
CU has; SC has; Pantheon has. Is there a reason it's worth noting that CoE will do the same..?
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
So now we are down to just 1 potentially being monetized....and that is only for people that are part of exposition or greater....so for people that already have paid for access to exposition where you are shaping THE KINGDOMS of Elyria....
Honestly guys, you are both reaching to post a negative here and it is very obvious you are biased so for anyone interested in this game just read EXACTLY what is written on the KS page.
If you think the CoE fundraising ended with the KS campaign, that's your reality, not mine.
My question is: why is that noteworthy? Is there another KS MMORPG that HASN'T continued offering pledges/tiers after their campaign ended?
CU has; SC has; Pantheon has. Is there a reason it's worth noting that CoE will do the same..?
Who said it was noteworthy ?
Well, except for those who seem to think that I'm "spreading lies" by suggesting that these additional features will be incorporated into future pledge tiers to make them more attractive to new backers...
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
So now we are down to just 1 potentially being monetized....and that is only for people that are part of exposition or greater....so for people that already have paid for access to exposition where you are shaping THE KINGDOMS of Elyria....
Honestly guys, you are both reaching to post a negative here and it is very obvious you are biased so for anyone interested in this game just read EXACTLY what is written on the KS page.
If you think the CoE fundraising ended with the KS campaign, that's your reality, not mine.
My question is: why is that noteworthy? Is there another KS MMORPG that HASN'T continued offering pledges/tiers after their campaign ended?
CU has; SC has; Pantheon has. Is there a reason it's worth noting that CoE will do the same..?
Who said it was noteworthy ?
Well, except for those who seem to think that I'm "spreading lies" by suggesting that these additional features will be incorporated into future pledge tiers to make them more attractive to new backers...
Umm, well, you did. By posting over the course of two pages about it. And not just about the practice in general, you actually posted a sarcastic comment as if you were speaking for the CoE team implying they would sneakily add payment requirements at a later date for the access..
So it seems you found this particular case noteworthy of criticism. My question, again: why? It's pretty common, and other developers are actually selling less digital value for more real dollars.
EDIT- I should add: you posted twice speaking in specifics about this project in a sarcastic tone before anyone disagreed with your suggestions.
Well, except for those who seem to think that I'm "spreading lies" by suggesting that these additional features will be incorporated into future pledge tiers to make them more attractive to new backers...
The problem here is your insinuation.
You insinuate that these features are being added to create 32 1 additional monetization stream as opposed to the features being added and being available, as they specified, to existing backers of the project based on their involvement in the history/exposition leading up to release. They are not being added to entice new backers and money, they are being added to add depth to the game during design and to build up the world and it's inhabitants through 3 types of interaction pre launch (4 if you also include exposition).
You make these insinuations, expect no one to notice, then wave it all off as if you don't think it is that important at all when you have been posting for 2 pages just how much you don't care and how very normal it all is...in a tone that displays your overall attitude and one that I find perplexing and annoying.
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Well lets actually quote what was said: -
"While it will initially be "pre-alpha" quality and as such be released to our Alpha 1 backers and high influencers only, it also serves as an introduction to the world and the story. In fact, the events of the Prologue are quite significant and take place approximately five Elyrian years before the start of Exposition. As a result, at some point before Exposition we will make the Prologue available for all backers to play."
So....before exposition all backers will get to play the prologue.
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
So before V3.0 of the website all backers will get to play the Kingdoms of Elyria.
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
So before pre-Alpha all backers will get to play the MUD.
So a backer gets access to ALL THREE games by default without spending any more money.
Backer is an exsiting customer...so please, what NEW opportunities for monetization are YOU talking about?
Because, on the surface, it looks like you are spreading lies and I would like you to have a chance to provide evidence backing up your statement.
Or are you making a guess and using the most negative language you can find to give it your spin of hate?
WHY?
Why waste your time here shitting on something you obviously have disdain for?
Why not walk away and enjoy something instead of trying to shit all over the game and it's supporters. I honestly don't know 1 negative person in my life and this website is filled with them!
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And finally, pre-Alpha (alpha 1) will not be the first opportunity players have to experience or impact Elyria. With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more will have an opportunity to write the history of Elyria almost 100 years before, and leading up to, the beginning of the official game.
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I don't know if you think THEY are lying but what they said was " Alpha 2+ backers" get in. Which is exactly what I said. They also said "then perhaps more" which could mean more backers, new people who buy it, or nobody.
Have a GREAT day/evening!
edit to put dashes around the quote
Also to add: Note, that is why gekko and I said TWO new possible revenue sources and not 3. As far as I can tell the ONLY thing all backers will see is the "Prelude". If that is incorrect please link. If not please apologize.
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CoE is not going to be built with $1.3M. They need to raise a lot more money than that.
They obviously know this, otherwise their first announced development to go-live post-KS would not have been an online store...
And they have repeatedly laid out their plans for funding way beyond the KS campaign. They have spoken quite freely about their other partners, other revenues post KS and the plans for the online store to allow, among other things, people from Europe who couldn't fund the KS campaign due to payment restrictions with KS.
If you don't know because you have issues and only look for the negatives then it is no wonder you have jumped to this 'faulty' conclusion. But please stop spreading falsehoods and just walk away if you don't like things.
Are you purposefully ignoring what I write and what is published on their KS page?????
You may disagree with my opinion, and you're welcome to express that freely on these forums.
Just as I'll continue to express my scepticism regarding the design and timeline of CoE.
"So, sometime after v3.0 of the website we'll be releasing a web-based portal that will allow players to play the Dance of Dynasties."
Note they said PLAYERS.. not ALL PLAYERS
"The idea is that by granting players an opportunity to get into the game in a strictly textual format, we can exercise and stress some of the server-side game mechanics even before pre-alpha"
Note they said PLAYERS and not ALL PLAYERS
"With Kingdoms of Elyria and ElyriaMUD, Alpha 2+ backers and then perhaps more"
Note they said ALPHA 2+ PLAYERS.. not ALL PLAYERS
So perhaps you should be upset with them for misleading you. Please go post on the CoE forum and ask for clarification if you need it. When you find out they wordsmithed you and you fell for it, I'd hope you perhaps view them in a different light as well as come back and apologize for accusing ME of "spreading lies".
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Prelude is free to backers
Kingdoms and MUD are free to Alpha 2+ backers and MAYBE other players (undefined which others might eventually have access and if there is a charge)
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It also didn't clarify that by the term 'players' it means backers of the game who will be playing it and not 'players' as in the type of person portrayed by Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder.
Jesus fucking Christ you guys really stretch things out trying to twist what is written.
Hey all, just wanted to clarify in case there was still some confusion before heading to bed:
Both Prologue: The Awakening, as well as ElyriaMUD, will begin with Alpha 1 and expand outward, eventually reaching all backers. Kingdoms of Elyria will begin with the aristocracy and nobility and very quickly expand to all people with access to Exposition.
Cheers, everyone!
So quite clearly now they are saying the Kingdoms of Elyria is ONLY for Exposition backers and up.
They also clarified that the Prologue and the MUD will be available to all backers on a rolling basis from Alpha 1 backers down.
Do you have another way to read that? If so please share. If not, thanks...
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I already quoted what the developers stated. Please provide quotes discouting my above quotes because I cannot see anywhere where it specifies ANY of these 3 items are restricted completely. In fact they specifically say 'access for players at some point before exposition'for Prologue, 'Sometime after' for Kingdoms and 'even before pre-alpha' for the MUD.
CHEERS!
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So now we are down to just 1 potentially being monetized....and that is only for people that are part of exposition or greater....so for people that already have paid for access to exposition where you are shaping THE KINGDOMS of Elyria....
Honestly guys, you are both reaching to post a negative here and it is very obvious you are biased so for anyone interested in this game just read EXACTLY what is written on the KS page.
I'd be willing to bet the credit card interface they use to accept 'backers' payments didn't receive this much testing. Or ballyhoo.
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
I was theorizing that these features could be nicely monetized to the thousands of NEW backers that they are hoping to attract via their online store. I doubt the store is only going to sell coffeemugs and T-shirts...
CoE fundraising has now moved to Phase 2. All the "easy converts" would have been covered in the KS campaign. Now the deals have to be sweetened a bit more to convert the hold-outs...
Packaging these additional features with the different pledge tiers in the store will make the pledges more attractive, because they'll have more "perceived value" than the original KS tiers.
If you think the CoE fundraising ended with the KS campaign, that's your reality, not mine.
CU has; SC has; Pantheon has. Is there a reason it's worth noting that CoE will do the same..?
Well, except for those who seem to think that I'm "spreading lies" by suggesting that these additional features will be incorporated into future pledge tiers to make them more attractive to new backers...
So it seems you found this particular case noteworthy of criticism. My question, again: why? It's pretty common, and other developers are actually selling less digital value for more real dollars.
EDIT- I should add: you posted twice speaking in specifics about this project in a sarcastic tone before anyone disagreed with your suggestions.
You insinuate that these features are being added to create 3 2 1 additional monetization stream as opposed to the features being added and being available, as they specified, to existing backers of the project based on their involvement in the history/exposition leading up to release. They are not being added to entice new backers and money, they are being added to add depth to the game during design and to build up the world and it's inhabitants through 3 types of interaction pre launch (4 if you also include exposition).
You make these insinuations, expect no one to notice, then wave it all off as if you don't think it is that important at all when you have been posting for 2 pages just how much you don't care and how very normal it all is...in a tone that displays your overall attitude and one that I find perplexing and annoying.