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CONFIRMED: Layoffs Hit Turbine
SBFord
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RUMOR: Layoffs Hit TurbineUPDATE: We have received the following statement from Turbine:
Turbine is transitioning into a free-to-play, mobile development studio, and as a result we are eliminating some positions. The Lord of the Rings Online and Dungeons and Dragons online games will continue to operate as they do now. Re-focusing and reducing the studio size was a difficult decision for the company, and we are grateful to all of the Turbine staff for their considerable contributions.
Lord of the Rings and Dungeons & Dragons Online developer Turbine Studios is rumored to have undergone a round of layoffs. The information was posted to the personal Facebook account of former LOTRO Community Manager Rick Heaton. We have reached out to Turbine to confirm or deny the rumors and will report back when we know more.
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Sounds like Orc mischief to me. They come with fire, they come with axes. Gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning. Destroyers and usurpers. Curse them!~ Treebeard
Well there is a rumour that mmorpg.com is being taken down soon. Now some say this is only for a new look but we have heard that one before. So maybe they have to get this in early ....
It is probably legit though given the source. Don't see any reason to worry about e.g. LotR though; it may mean less content going forward but I seriously doubt if the "older titles" are "grossly over staffed".
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Or maybe it would be a small group like the one making Pantheon. Of course, if that was the case then you would get the people saying "this looks so 2004".
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
So, it is all your fault!
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
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I was in friends and family alpha and it was not a great game nor a great implementation imo. This is from a long time dnd player (1974) and former judge at gencons ad&d open and sometimes TSR playtester. That doesn't mean it didn't have some cool features such as their traps and the combat fun for a while.
There was that whole friends don't let friends solo bit that got changed into soloing.
Worst choice they made was not using an existing world. I would have preferred World of Greyhawk but Forgotten Realms would have been acceptable. Eberron was a poor choice for me. It was like having a TV Show set in Gotham City where Batman was a child and calling the show something like Gotham.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Unfortunately, UK public domain law is Life of the Author + 70 years, so LOTR doesn't pass into the public domain until 2043. Until then we're at the whims of our corporate overlords as to whether we'll get another LOTR game.
Even if it's true it means very little anyway, companies downsize all the time.
That's also why we got the Forgotten Realms expansion to DDO later when we did, because WotC was reintroducing Forgotten Realms with their timeskipped guidebooks.
Will say I actually like(d) Turbine as a studio for a long time. They were pretty creative programmers that built out their own engine and solutions to problems in the MMO sphere which set their MMOs apart as more action-oriented gameplay when others simply couldn't pull similar off. They have never been particularly cohesive group though, and maintaining their engine and updating the code has always been hellish. Creative, but uncoordinated.
Which is a big reason we see them kind of flounder about with their development progress a lot of the time. Not really good for them or their games in the long term.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
I know, but the point is the from my view. The choice was done and it was bad. The nitpick who did it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. It tasted like crap, I don't care whose poop it was. Nitpicking is annoying. In case it wasn't clear, that kind of "correcting" is nitpicking and annoying.
Unless you are making the point that because Turbine didn't get the choice therefore Eberron is a great setting for me and I should have been bootlickingly happy about it.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Wanna complain that Eberron was a bad choice? That's fine, but point that ire at the ones that made the decision and not only screwed up DDO, but launched a bunch of extra Eberron focused content that also hit the D&D market and equally sucked. Kicking the people that got shafted by someone else's decision is simply petty.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin
A bad choice is a bad choice. As a consumer, do you think I really give a damn who made it? Petty that is a laugh.
Epic Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAigCvelkhQ&list=PLo9FRw1AkDuQLEz7Gvvaz3ideB2NpFtT1
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Saul Zaents company owns the rights - they leased the book based MMO rights to turbine who was later bought by WB. Those rights end in 2017 unless they get renewed.
WB is under no obligation to let a single owned studio turbine make any future LOTR MMOs if they still hold the rights. And frankly, it's better to tie the movie and book rights together in the next MMO. WB probably screwed themselves by buying teh turbine name but aren't ready to ditch it.
"The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin