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It's simply that Islam is not and has never been a relgion of peace. The US and liberals can pretend all it wants that the Quran doesn't allow for jihad. Mohammed was a warlord that swept the middle east.
The Downing Street Memos are fakes.
I am seriously in awe that there are really that many crazy douche bags out there who think that all polticians are criminally minded and insane, George Bush is causing these attacks, George Bush authorized them, Tony Blair is the devil, Tony Blair blew up London. It sickens me that people like to contradict the blatant truth just for the sake of stirring up controversy.
These same people, the Micheal Crooks of the world, would rather move out of the country then serve your nation proudly to pay back everything you owe (your FREEDOMS) to your country if a draft were ordered. These same people truly believe that the United States and the UK are criminals, need to be shot on the spot. We DO NOT need your ignorant, self righteous BULLSHIT.
Look at the blatant, infront of you truth. No matter how much you think that there is some mass conspiracy going on, or George Bush is forming the NWO, or whatever the fuck you get off even saying that your own leaders who are there for a reason (elected officials, meaning the people voted for them) are causing these attacks, it just isnt true. Nor is it possible. Tell me, how the hell is anybody as well documented and recorded as the president of the United States going to pull something like that. I don't know if your 8th grade education made it to the US government structure or not, but there is a SYSTEM OF CHECKS AND BALANCES, making it nearly IMPOSSIBLE to pull something off like this.
Fuck, people piss me off. If you hate America or the UK, get the fuck out of our country. Go join the bastards blowing up innocent civilians, if you hate us so much.
For the record, I think George Bush is not a good president, and he has made tons of stupid mistakes in his administration. But people who think that it is even possible to pull off this stuff is just mentally insane. Your political leaders are there to protect you, they may not be doing the best job at it, but at the very least their INTENTIONS are for the good of the PEOPLE.
Where would the world be without the United States? A backwards society. Maybe you havent realized, but we have helped fight off world dictators, oppression, donated billions upon billions of dollars of aid to pretty much every disaster in our short history,we have taken evil dictators out of power, dethroned war militias hell bent on starving their own people, and yet you have the nerve to come in here and tell us that our government is evil, lying, and trying to take over the world. Get a fucking clue. I guess ignorance is bliss, you enjoy spewing out your bullshit, trying to contradict everything in the world. Moon landings fake, US government blows up world trade centers to start a war, Iraqi people are less happy with the new regime and had more freedoms under Saddam.
Quit trying to start with your conspiracy theory self righteous bullshit, and open your eyes. Clear your head and look at what is infront of you.
Simple aw hell no...It's gonna be hard work. I don't know all the answers, even all the questions. But I know that we are better than them, and that we are good people; I speak of the freedom loving democratic peoples all over the world.
Just study muslim law if you want to see what kind of society they want the world to be. For instance in Saudi Arabia, considered too "westernized" by many hard line extremist muslims, public entertainment is strictly forbidden. So no movies, buskers, bands or plays or theatre. The death of art plain and simple. That is just one law, do a little research just into the laws, its kinda frightening.
I know that if the U.S. decides to have less dealings with Israel and the middle east, it will be because of what the U.S. decides, not to bow to the will of terrorists. We will NEVER negotiate with terrorists.
I know its not simple my down under friend, but you can't hate the bad out of someone, but you CAN love it out. What does that have to do with anything? Everything.
Yes I think the U.S. could do a lot to soften its image around the globe by pulling troops out of a lot of places, but not until their jobs are done there. And the generals decide that, not us gamers thank god lol
Yeah sure but do you agree it is the sole duty and responsibility of the Western World to decide what constitutes a valid system of Government for everyone else ?
Let me quote Donald Rumsfeld in a recent interview about the Iraqi elections.
Rumsfeld : We are here to put in place a genuine democracy.
Iraqi Journalist : Mr Rumsefeld do you realise that if Iraqis were allowed to choose their own leadership and government, over 60% of the population would choose and vote for a Sheite Muslim Cleric and an Islamic style of Government ?
Rumsfeld : We are not going to let that happen!
Just think about that for a minute..... then tell me again about how western democracy is a theorum that overides anyone elses idea of how their country should be run.
What exactly is democracy if it is not majority rule ?
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
The new age is upon us
And yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave
For those who hide behind the false image of the son of man
shall stand before God!!! It has begun
The beginning of the end
Yeah..
Yeah... yeah, yeah
The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
Conservative political right wing, ideology
Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
Human rights violations, we continue the saga
El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Read about the history of the place that we live in
And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children
Flow like the blood of Abraham through the Jews and the Arabs
Broken apart like a woman's heart, abused in a marriage
The brink of holy war, bottled up, like a miscarriage
Embedded correspondents don't tell the source of the tension
And they refuse to even mention, European intervention
Or the massacres in Jenin, the innocent screams
U.S. manufactured missles, and M-16's
Weapon contracts and corrupted American dreams
Media censorship, blocking out the video screens
A continent of oil kingdoms, bought for a bargain
Democracy is just a word, when the people are starvin'
The average citizen, made to be, blind to the reason
A desert full of genocide, where the bodies are freezin'
And the world doesn't believe that you fightin' for freedom
Cause you fucked the Middle East, and gave birth to a demon
It's open season with the CIA, bugging my crib
Trapped in a ghetto region like a Palestinian kid
Where nobody gives a fuck whether you die or you live
I'm tryin' to give the truth, and I know the price is my life
But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade
Like a fallen angel standing in the presence of God
Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view in the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Martial law is coming soon to the hood, to kill you
While you hanging your flag out your project window
Yeah..
The fourth branch of the government AKA the media
Seems to now have a retirement plan for ex-military officials
As if their opinion was at all unbiased
A machine shouldn't speak for men
So shut the fuck up you mindless drone!
And you know it's serious
When these same media outfits are spending millions of dollars on a PR campaign
To try to convince you they're fair and balanced
When they're some of the most ignorant, and racist people
Giving that type of mentality a safe haven
We act like we share in the spoils of war that they do
We die in wars, we don't get the contracts to make money off 'em afterwards!
We don't get weapons contracts, nigga!
We don't get cheap labor for our companies, nigga!
We are cheap labor, nigga!
Turn off the news and read, nigga!
Read... read... read...
This is a song by Immortal Technique. All of this is true. It's blunt and to the point. People need to wake up and see that the general population of the 'coalition' countries are basically being taken for a ride, in this centuries old conflict.
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...That is all.
And it could have very well been done by the government itself so that the people demand that Blair not worry about Africa and worry about Iraq instead. That way he makes you think it's you who is determining his course of action and not Blair himself. After all, it's easier being a dictator when the people think you're doing it for their benefit.
That is not only a deplorable thing to say but a horrible way to live with your own mind. Cook up a conspiracy theory before going for the obvious first, nice.
It's only deplorable to your own mind because you do not see the truth. The Downing Street Memo which was written by the British government and implicates our ever so loving United States government is proof positive that governments routinely lie and trick the very people they are sworn to protect. Get educated. And your right, it is a theory. Only, you condescend me by calling it a conspiracy. We no longer live in an age of honor where Winston Chruchill is the Prime Minister. We live in an age where Tony Blair and Geopge Bush are criminally insane and couldn't give one shit about you or I.
You mean the age of honor where we turned a blind eye to Stalin slaughtering his own masses yet took down Hitler for it all at the same time? I think you need to buy a clue. You banked your chips where you wanted to bank them, what you wanted to beleive in. You can live with that.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Anti-semetic is anti-jew, not anti-muslim.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Just want to put in one comment, my sympathy goes out to anyone that might of known any one that died in those bombings, or even if they didnt, but just remember that you had less then a hundred casualties. We had well over two thousand (9/11). So for any America Bashers about terrorism, now you got a better perspective on things.
Anti-semetic is anti-jew, not anti-muslim.
Actually Mr. Smarty Pants a Semite is the entire of the Arab peoples, not just Jews. Look it up at dictionary.com. Jews would love to highjack the term and be it's only owner, but alas, it will never happen.
Simple aw hell no...It's gonna be hard work. I don't know all the answers, even all the questions. But I know that we are better than them, and that we are good people; I speak of the freedom loving democratic peoples all over the world.
Just study muslim law if you want to see what kind of society they want the world to be. For instance in Saudi Arabia, considered too "westernized" by many hard line extremist muslims, public entertainment is strictly forbidden. So no movies, buskers, bands or plays or theatre. The death of art plain and simple. That is just one law, do a little research just into the laws, its kinda frightening.
I know that if the U.S. decides to have less dealings with Israel and the middle east, it will be because of what the U.S. decides, not to bow to the will of terrorists. We will NEVER negotiate with terrorists.
I know its not simple my down under friend, but you can't hate the bad out of someone, but you CAN love it out. What does that have to do with anything? Everything.
Yes I think the U.S. could do a lot to soften its image around the globe by pulling troops out of a lot of places, but not until their jobs are done there. And the generals decide that, not us gamers thank god lol
Are you truely insane? We can LOVE the hate out of these people, am i the only one who thinks that is insane. Do you really believe in that statement, if we went over there with hugs and kisses how will that change a single thing....it wouldn't infact we'd be even more of a target.
You try loving some one who has a bomb strapped to his chest see how much love you get back, these people dont care and no matter how much of a crusade you gather in love peace and harmony it wont change a single thing.
There will never ever be world peace, at least until we evolve more as a species and move past our petty differences because it is in our nature to fight amoungst ourselves. And if your saying religion is the way forward, remember religion is the biggest cause of war in human history.
having more deaths doesn't mean you suffered any more than any one person that was involved with the bombings in London yesterday.. And it doesn't make the US bigger or better because more people were killed *rolls eyes*
Just think of the 9000 or so innocent civilians that the allied forces bombed in Felujah <sp> in Iraq.. Where's all the candles and flowers for them? Why doesn't anybody care as much for those people as for ours? Because it's all about double-standards. They are not however, any less humans than people from the US or the UK...
Put some of that into your perspective pie.
Jiggly.
I really wish you would not represent my country as an "Informative Speaker", but if you must know, the london bombings had more injuries than 100 [over 1000]. Check your facts before saying "We", "Americans", and before you say "My country's tragedy is worse than your country's tragedy".
"Whoever controls the media controls the mind..-'Jim Morrison"
"When decorum is repression, the only dignity free men have is to speak out." ~Abbie Hoffman
I really wish you would not represent my country as an "Informative Speaker", but if you must know, the london bombings had more injuries than 100 [over 1000]. Check your facts before saying "We", "Americans", and before you say "My country's tragedy is worse than your country's tragedy".
Lives were lost, it was a tragedy plain and simple.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Firstly, although I don't particulary care...
language doesn't work like that. If 99.9% of people take a Semite as bieng a Jew, a a Semite is a Jew.
Anyways...
What happened in London yesterday was a tragic event and, although I swear if I hear the term 'Blitz Spirit' once more, I will guage my hears out with a needle, Londeners delt with the situation impecably.
However, on the war on Terror, let me give you a fittingly British example:
On Sunday January 30, 1972, 13 Republican unarmed men and boys were shot dead and 14 others were wounded by British paratroopers on the Streets of Derry Northern Ireland.
In the following week, membership of the IRA- The Irish Republican Army- the main Republican Terrorist group increased 5 fold.
So far, due to Western intervension between 22787 and 25814 Muslims have been killed.
Makes you think how the membership of al'Quaeda- the main Islamic Terrorist group has increased...
Oh, and is all American media this sickening?
language doesn't work like that. If 99.9% of people take a Semite as bieng a Jew, a a Semite is a Jew.
Anyways...
What happened in London yesterday was a tragic event and, although I swear if I hear the term 'Blitz Spirit' once more, I will guage my hears out with a needle, Londeners delt with the situation impecably.
However, on the war on Terror, let me give you a fittingly British example:
On Sunday January 30, 1972, 13 Republican unarmed men and boys were shot dead and 14 others were wounded by British paratroopers on the Streets of Derry Northern Ireland.
In the following week, membership of the IRA- The Irish Republican Army- the main Republican Terrorist group increased 5 fold.
So far, due to Western intervension between 22787 and 25814 Muslims have been killed.
Makes you think how the membership of al'Quaeda- the main Islamic Terrorist group has increased...
Oh, and is all American media this sickening?
Well he was right, I often forget the actual meaning of it because the media only ever uses the term when it has to do with isreal or the jewish culture. However the rest of his ignorant comments after that I will let the staff deal with.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
This thread has gotten way out of hand.
*locked*
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
language doesn't work like that. If 99.9% of people take a Semite as bieng a Jew, a a Semite is a Jew.
Kind of like how "cola" is generically referred to as "coke" or "pepsi" in the USA. You can walk into a restaurant, order a Coke and they bring you a Pepsi because in many people's minds, it's the same thing.
I just wanted to comment about the "Muslim Religion". Some friends of ours are Muslim's, however, they don't believe in killing and acts of terrorism. They are good people and it disturbs me how so many people, especially in the USA, can group catgorize them and discriminate against Muslim's as a whole. I mean, after all, this was a country who overcame the predjudices of slavery and the group discrimination of blacks. It just seems that we haven't learned from our past.