The dark souls 3 stat is interesting. The game is an achievement if you finish, it's mainstream and in some circles it's bragging rights. Look at the mainstream games, skyrim, fallout 4 and ds3. If you didn't complete them your not a gamer. The high ds3 percentage is likely due to the fact that ds series is thought of as difficult, people wanted to say " I beat that game, I can beat any game." I did the same thing with wow end game raids in wotlk, once I downed lich king on heroic I quit chasing any carrots wow put out, I knew what it took to complete the task, I wasn't impressed and it wasn't that much fun or entertaining.
Fallout 4 isn't a very good example though, you can spend 200 hours without 'finishing' it, while someone else can blow through the main story in 20 or less and count as finished. Also.. mods disable achievements.
I don't buy a new game until I've finished the last one, it's a practice that has forced me to finish everything I play. Life gets in the way a lot, being that I'm a mom, but I stil finish them eventually.
lol. Depends on the game. I've finished everything Bioware has ever done if I have ever owned the game because their games are simply awesome (and I sometimes rebuy the game later if it becomes available on a new system so I can play it again). But no, I have never finished Skyrim mostly because I don't like the artwork. I have finished the first two witcher games including expansion, but I have only finished the original Witcher 3 game, and am currently working on Heart of Stone (I'm hoping the guys at Nexus will fix that mod to allow me to change Geralts face to a younger Geralt for HoS so I've been skipping it a bit. I may give up and try the wolf mod instead that removes the scars and makes his hair black. I want him more handsome. I'm a girl dammit. Why should I have to look at an ugly ass Geralt and stare at nothing women's breasts the whole time I'm playing the game? Give me handsome Geralt). I really want to play the third expansion Blood and Wine since it's so much more beautiful but I want to finish the game in proper order, so Hearts of Stone first.
I have actively avoided getting all the trophy's in games for the most part, but on the ps4 I find I tend to beat games more often than on PC (maybe the genre's I play), on the ps4 in the last year or so I've beaten, tales of zestiria, Ratchet and Clank, Star Ocean 5, and uncharted 4. I do have a few rpg's in the mix that are almost comleted, Grand Kingdom and FFX HD the glaring ones I could finish in a few hours (at the end of both)... Overall though as I've grown older I tend to not stick with games as long as I used to unless a game really catches me, I tend to move to something else quicker than I used too.
I'm compelled to finish what I start, and pretty much finish all the RPGs that I start.
I've played pretty much every major RPG, all the games in the Elder Scrolls series leading up to Skyrim, all the Dragon Age Games, every Tomb Raider game starting with the first one, and on and on.
In MMOs I usually play to max level and then quit, I'm not really into the endless endgame group stuff.
I've played through The Elder Scrolls Online with 3 characters.
Now I'm playing The Secret World again and enjoying the new content, I played all the way through Age of Conan but haven't gone back after they added higher levels etc, but I may eventually.
I never uninstall my old games.
The one game I haven't been able to stick with is Guild Wars 2, I just can't get past he jerky run animations.
Mike
If you shoot a mime, do you have to use a silencer?
Witcher I+II, Dragon Age I+II, Mass Effect all 3 - finished multiple times each.
Could barely finish Witcher3, still have the last DLC to finish tho. Still have last zone in DA:I and DLC
Dunno, but even the better, acclaimed newer titles are kind of meh to me... I remember the extraordinary attachment I had for DA:O and ME 1+2... I don't really feel anything like that for new stuff.
As for MMOs, I consider that I finished WoW, as I beat the last bosses on the hardest difficulty. Outside raiding, where the story concludes, it doesn't matter, it's distractions.
I don't have the longest of attention spans sometimes. I'm one of those people who used to be able to finish games regularly as a kid, but now being an adult, sometimes just don't have time to finish everything Plus the advent of gaming services like steam and game bundle websites mean you can get lots of games for cheap and end up not finishing many of them. Before online game distribution services existed it was a lot easier to focus on just one game at once.
I'm really bad about completing RPGs because then that means the journey is over. I got to the Final boss in Neptunia, a few of the Tales games and Valkirya Chronicles then never finished the games.
Before Wow there was not a single game I had maxed out alt or reached end (at least not without some kind of "god mode" :-). Then all changed, incredibly changed. In no other game i had single maxed out alt, in Wow before Wod I had 22 maxed out alts, 11 for both factions. In Swtor before every expansion I have at least all 8 unique alts maxed out, later adding more to have usually 12 of them. In Rift I have usually 2 and rest close to, same with Gw2. This says to me all that is to be know how good (despite slow degradation) Wow and Swtor are.
The dark souls 3 stat is interesting. The game is an achievement if you finish, it's mainstream and in some circles it's bragging rights. Look at the mainstream games, skyrim, fallout 4 and ds3. If you didn't complete them your not a gamer. The high ds3 percentage is likely due to the fact that ds series is thought of as difficult, people wanted to say " I beat that game, I can beat any game." I did the same thing with wow end game raids in wotlk, once I downed lich king on heroic I quit chasing any carrots wow put out, I knew what it took to complete the task, I wasn't impressed and it wasn't that much fun or entertaining.
Dark souls 3 stats is somewhat misleading because there are multiple endings to the game and many players unlocked multiple endings.
You should also remember that dark souls 3 has a summoning system that allows you to summon others just before you enter the boss fight and since you get a reward with a faction unlock plenty of people are available so the fight that was hard just became really easy and in many cases your summons can just beat the fight for you while you stand idle.
Iselin: And the next person who says "but it's a business, they need to make money" can just go fuck yourself.
Because imo a good RPG shouldn't have an end. The moment I realise the game I'm playing has an end I kind of lose interest. I ask myself what's the reward of going through mindless killing things just to see the game kind of 'dissapear'. It's almost as if you are punished for finishing the game. RPG games that are done right such as skyrim V not included.
Frankenstein: Through the eyes of the monster and Exhumed, both on Sega Saturn, are the only games I have finished.
You sir, are a hero.
Also guilty, very guilty and it does not mean I dislike the game. Last game I finished was Bayonetta 2, that was frigging awesome.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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Have you played them too?
They are my favourite games, in fact, I am installing Frankenstein again on the PC to replay it this weekend!
@seelinnikoi Yes, I recently sold my 90+ game Saturn collection including: Panzer Dragoon Saga, Shining Force 3, Shining the Holy Ark, Mega Man X3, Dragonforce and also these two games. The Saturn has a VERY special place in my heart, the quality of the games was out of this world. Unfortunately Europe inner city living does not get you much m2 for your buck so I had to downsize, a little kid does not help either hahaha
Also, thanks for mentioning Frankenstein has a PC version. I did not know this and will most definitely get it! So a very big thanks mate!
/Cheers, Lahnmir
'the only way he could nail it any better is if he used a cross.'
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
That just means I can enjoy a game and I don't do what I don't want to do. In Skyrim, I have never married an NPC and I have never adopted a child. Don't ever plan to either. I already have a real wife and kids. why do I need one in my game?
There's a few reasons why I seldom finish games and those I have were mostly because I didn't realize until too late that they were over.
1. The games I really enjoy I don't want them to end. 2. The games I don't enjoy I don't want to play. 3. The games that really don't have an end that I can enjoy and play for years, ie. mmorpgs, the "end" is usually the type of gameplay that I normally don't want to get to anyway so I tend to stroll rather than rush to it. By the time I get there either a new expansion is waiting or I'm so pissed at the changes along the way that I move on to a new game.
I haven't played every game on that list, but the ones I have played I have finished. Also like others have said though, if I don't like a game I'm obviously not going to finish it. That said I generally buy games I have read a lot about before buying them and I don't buy stuff just because it is on sale.
The data may be accurate or it may not be. People who buy steam games may or may not be representative of RPG players in general, so there may be some unintended selection bias there. A lot of steam players who don't identify as RPG gamers, buy games just because they are on sale, screw around a bit and then play something else they bought on sale. I have a feeling this probably skew the numbers a bit.
Honestly though if we aren't talking about gamers who specifically like RPG games and are just talking about gamers in general it isn't really all that surprising that a lot of players just play a bit and move on as mobile gaming mentality has affected games in general. That said, if companies want to make RPG games that RPG gamers enjoy they should completely ignore the data presented here as it isn't really indicative of much of anything. Shorter may be better for the mobile mentality shallow game lovers but I don't think that applies to RPG gamers as much. Personally, as long as the game continues to be fun the longer the better.
Now there is a difference between finishing the storyline and 100% completion. I finished Metal Gear V and only had like 50% completion. That makes a huge difference because I do not feel like exploring every nook and cranny of every game I play. But I will finish the story. My problem is I hardly ever finish any expansions. By the time an expansion comes out I'm bored with the gameplay and move on with my life.
I do finish the RPG games I play. I start off doing every single mission/quest I find or explore, but over time there is a repetitiveness to the gameplay and I find myself rushing to finish the game before I get bored. When I got Skyrim on the day it released I played incessantly, but having played about 90% of it I took an extended break before finally finishing it. Having last played Skyrim 4 years ago, I revisited it this year, trying out mods.
from that list i finished nearly all of them , ok Lighting returns cba to play it and i tho i would enjoy it more but tired of that character already ¬¬ , the battles arent that fun
There are only 3 games that come to mind that i have actually finished over the past 4 years or so, Skyrim and tell tales wolf among us and Game of thrones
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I don't play any other game on your list.
I'm compelled to finish what I start, and pretty much finish all the RPGs that I start.
I've played pretty much every major RPG, all the games in the Elder Scrolls series leading up to Skyrim, all the Dragon Age Games, every Tomb Raider game starting with the first one, and on and on.
In MMOs I usually play to max level and then quit, I'm not really into the endless endgame group stuff.
I've played through The Elder Scrolls Online with 3 characters.
Now I'm playing The Secret World again and enjoying the new content, I played all the way through Age of Conan but haven't gone back after they added higher levels etc, but I may eventually.
I never uninstall my old games.
The one game I haven't been able to stick with is Guild Wars 2, I just can't get past he jerky run animations.
Mike
If you shoot a mime, do you have to use a silencer?
Could barely finish Witcher3, still have the last DLC to finish tho. Still have last zone in DA:I and DLC
Dunno, but even the better, acclaimed newer titles are kind of meh to me... I remember the extraordinary attachment I had for DA:O and ME 1+2... I don't really feel anything like that for new stuff.
As for MMOs, I consider that I finished WoW, as I beat the last bosses on the hardest difficulty. Outside raiding, where the story concludes, it doesn't matter, it's distractions.
You should also remember that dark souls 3 has a summoning system that allows you to summon others just before you enter the boss fight and since you get a reward with a faction unlock plenty of people are available so the fight that was hard just became really easy and in many cases your summons can just beat the fight for you while you stand idle.
Also, thanks for mentioning Frankenstein has a PC version. I did not know this and will most definitely get it! So a very big thanks mate!
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
1. The games I really enjoy I don't want them to end.
2. The games I don't enjoy I don't want to play.
3. The games that really don't have an end that I can enjoy and play for years, ie. mmorpgs, the "end" is usually the type of gameplay that I normally don't want to get to anyway so I tend to stroll rather than rush to it. By the time I get there either a new expansion is waiting or I'm so pissed at the changes along the way that I move on to a new game.
The data may be accurate or it may not be. People who buy steam games may or may not be representative of RPG players in general, so there may be some unintended selection bias there. A lot of steam players who don't identify as RPG gamers, buy games just because they are on sale, screw around a bit and then play something else they bought on sale. I have a feeling this probably skew the numbers a bit.
Honestly though if we aren't talking about gamers who specifically like RPG games and are just talking about gamers in general it isn't really all that surprising that a lot of players just play a bit and move on as mobile gaming mentality has affected games in general. That said, if companies want to make RPG games that RPG gamers enjoy they should completely ignore the data presented here as it isn't really indicative of much of anything. Shorter may be better for the mobile mentality shallow game lovers but I don't think that applies to RPG gamers as much. Personally, as long as the game continues to be fun the longer the better.
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