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It’s Coming Back This Fall

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  • itchmonitchmon Member RarePosts: 1,999
    They couldn't have bought vanguard instead? That game deserves a second life more than this scam (yeah, they got me for 50 bucks). Or E&B, if we are bringing old games back from the grave.

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  • NanfoodleNanfoodle Member LegendaryPosts: 10,901
    itchmon said:
    They couldn't have bought vanguard instead? That game deserves a second life more than this scam (yeah, they got me for 50 bucks). Or E&B, if we are bringing old games back from the grave.
    I would have killed for an updated Vanguard. 
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    They are just using the Dark and light name.  The game uses nothing from the original game.

    As to why the negativity, anyone asking such a foolish question has no clue who Snail games are.  King of the pay-to-win genre is about the best way to describe them.

    It is ludicrous to think this might be a good game when you consider the publisher.
  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414
    Lol very brave to expect the Dark and Light name holds a positive reputation.
    Snail Games is not that bad for pay to win. Their only released titles are Age of Wushu and Black Gold which were good games and a fair cash shop.
  • BillMurphyBillMurphy Former Managing EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 4,565

    Ozmodan said:

    They are just using the Dark and light name.  The game uses nothing from the original game.

    As to why the negativity, anyone asking such a foolish question has no clue who Snail games are.  King of the pay-to-win genre is about the best way to describe them.

    It is ludicrous to think this might be a good game when you consider the publisher.


    There's talk, from their base, that they may very well do B2P with cosmetics.

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  • sakersaker Member RarePosts: 1,458
    Well now isn't this a bit of unexpected. The trailer tells us exactly nothing so nothing to do but wait&see... the original was at least hugely ambitious even if it did end up failing massively. Wonder if there'll be anything interesting in this version... I'm doubtful as these days real creativity and ambition are so lacking in so-called MMO's.
  • MaurgrimMaurgrim Member RarePosts: 1,331
    Would like some more info on the game such as.
    Hows questing, same boring quest hubs?
    Hows the crafting is it deep or shallow and pointless?
    What are the PvP rules, flagging, full PvP or full loot PvP?
    Is there any housing/fort building and faction warfare and or GvG.
    Is it levelbased, skillbased, stat based?
  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Ozmodan said:

    They are just using the Dark and light name.  The game uses nothing from the original game.

    As to why the negativity, anyone asking such a foolish question has no clue who Snail games are.  King of the pay-to-win genre is about the best way to describe them.

    It is ludicrous to think this might be a good game when you consider the publisher.


    There's talk, from their base, that they may very well do B2P with cosmetics.
    I'm getting a sense of deja vu here, lol

    "Launching as subscription B2P ? Pffft, it will go F2P in 6 months, mark my words !" :D
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    HAha ...So this site gave the original a 4/10?

    Seems there was some integrity from whomever pulled out that score back in the day.

    I have always wondered though how people justify giving bad scores to AMBITIOUS games with bugs but give great scores to non ambitious games that pretty much do nothing and offer little.

    Here you go sir a fully working Tricycle for $30k,no kinks,no bugs,everything works perfect !!!

    Ok sir here is your Mercedes for 30k,a few bugs,kinks a few problems but i am sure you can fix it for another 10k.

    Umm no thanks i rather have that luxurious Tricycle because it has no problems....../not !!!.

    Thing is a dud is a dud and likely always remains a dud.A game with great potential has at least that going for it...potential whilst the tricycle will always remain a cheap over priced Tricycle.Yes i used EXTREMES but to me i see exactly that in games,some games are soooo bad,like a Tricycle yet trying to sell their product like a Mercedes.

    Point??I feel Dark n Light does have potential but being there several years ago,i find it tough to trust this game no matter who is behind the wheel.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Sovrath said:
    Not excited I'm sick of it every time the same HYPE FAIL HYPE FAIL....
    People do this to themselves. No idea how they get through life.
    People or is it the media...advertising sites that create the hype?Yes it is the people who fall for it but i doubt many hype up more than a few games,bandwagon hopping,now yes i see a lot of that.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    edited August 2016
    Wizardry said:
    Sovrath said:
    Not excited I'm sick of it every time the same HYPE FAIL HYPE FAIL....
    People do this to themselves. No idea how they get through life.
    People or is it the media...advertising sites that create the hype?Yes it is the people who fall for it but i doubt many hype up more than a few games,bandwagon hopping,now yes i see a lot of that.
    People. Advertising has been around for hundreds of years. and "yes" I get that a few times people are going to get excited for things but one should learn as one goes along that not everything might be as it seems.

    People eventually need to start taking responsibility for themselves and stop blaming external factors. One has to learn at some point. And if one can't do that then that's a problem.
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  • SinakuSinaku Member UncommonPosts: 552


    From what I've read, it's a totally different game, they just kept the name.
    Let's wait and see... I'm willing to give a chance to any developer who wants to attempt making a sandbox MMO. Let's just hope that if they succeed on that part, they won't fall in the other usual traps, like forced PvP everywhere which turns those games into gankfests.



    This effectively summarizes my feeling toward this game. I actually saw the backlash the game received back in 2006 which lead me to never try it. As I hear it is entirely different I am always willing to give any MMO a chance. Time will tell as always.
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    edited August 2016
    Wizardry said:
    Point??
    You don't have one as usual.

    This game is NOT the old game....obviously. I tested it then and this is not that. Try talking about something you know about.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    Ozmodan said:
    They are just using the Dark and light name.  The game uses nothing from the original game.


    According the a VP at Snail that isn't "completely" true ...

    "Dark and Light will still be using the same world view from the original game, including the design of structures and monsters (other than converting to Unreal Engine 4 since last year)."

    http://mmoculture.com/2016/07/snail-games-vp-chats-with-media-on-age-of-wushu-2-and-dark-and-light/

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  • klash2defklash2def Member EpicPosts: 1,949
    Good. I hope it works out for them this time.
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  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455
    Will I have to pay for the game again?

    You might play in a fantasy world, but I hope you dont believe you live in one.
  • SimonTemplarSimonTemplar Member UncommonPosts: 2
    I used to really like this game . It's large world was a boon for adventurers .
  • HytekHytek Member UncommonPosts: 153
    So this is a gameplay video? Looks more like a cinematic as the graphics are pretty sick.

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  • MawneeMawnee Member UncommonPosts: 247
    I was a beta tester for the original. Lots of big plans that never happened.....

    I"ll wait and see.
  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Color me intrigued.

    Looking forward to more info

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  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    edited August 2016


    I already paid for DnL 10 years ago, I still have the email receipt in archive, lol

    I wonder if Snail will honor the purchase ?



    I'll say it again, your purchase just like mine has nothing to do with snail games, take it up with Farland.

    As for this game, all it shares with the original is the size of the world and the concept. The actual lore and classes plus cities/towns have all changed, it's been totally rewritten.

    Again take your issues up with Farland if you really need to after all these years. We all get burned by mmos over the years, it's standard.

    How old are you?




  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480

    Hytek said:

    So this is a gameplay video? Looks more like a cinematic as the graphics are pretty sick.



    It's a game play video.




  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    This game is also coming out on consoles as well.




  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    Tamanous said:
    The sad truth with mmos if not matter how a game looks, I cannot get excited until I learn the payment model.

    "Snail Games"


    ............

    It's b2p across all formats, PC, PS4 and XB1.




  • SavageHorizonSavageHorizon Member EpicPosts: 3,480
    alakram said:
    As someone who saw this game launch and flop back in it's day I only got somthing to say:
    lol

    And as someone who was also there I've got something to say. 


    ........

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