Posting pictures of her Child along with the kid's name
More proof of posting images of her daughters, along with their home address
Despicable behavior. Anyone who condones Derek Smart's actions are scum.
So you're saying Sandi and/or Chris shouldn't have posted pictures of their daughter? Not sure why it's despicable behaviour for a parent to post pictures on their child's public IMDB page but guess that's your call.
Did you actually read the first posts in this thread ?
Go to page one post 3. There is a list of DS's harassment "achievements" towards mrs. Gardner. He is the one who posted the pics along with their names and home address.
He wrote about it in his blog. As a matter of fact, all of that information comes from his blog as the first source. He didn't just go around posting the address for their million dollar home (paid for with backer money mind you) all over social media. But hey, you just keep up that hyperbole train there buddy.
Oh, they paid for their home with backer money? Who said that?
Posting pictures of her Child along with the kid's name
More proof of posting images of her daughters, along with their home address
Despicable behavior. Anyone who condones Derek Smart's actions are scum.
So you're saying Sandi and/or Chris shouldn't have posted pictures of their daughter? Not sure why it's despicable behaviour for a parent to post pictures on their child's public IMDB page but guess that's your call.
Did you actually read the first posts in this thread ?
Go to page one post 3. There is a list of DS's harassment "achievements" towards mrs. Gardner. He is the one who posted the pics along with their names and home address.
He wrote about it in his blog. As a matter of fact, all of that information comes from his blog as the first source. He didn't just go around posting the address for their million dollar home (paid for with backer money mind you) all over social media. But hey, you just keep up that hyperbole train there buddy.
Oh, they paid for their home with backer money? Who said that?
they didnt own it before the kickstarter. after the kickstarter, bam million dollar home, you do the math smart guy. You'll have to excuse me, I have to go try and swindle some nerd out of his Hulk 181, lmao
Posting pictures of her Child along with the kid's name
More proof of posting images of her daughters, along with their home address
Despicable behavior. Anyone who condones Derek Smart's actions are scum.
So you're saying Sandi and/or Chris shouldn't have posted pictures of their daughter? Not sure why it's despicable behaviour for a parent to post pictures on their child's public IMDB page but guess that's your call.
Did you actually read the first posts in this thread ?
Go to page one post 3. There is a list of DS's harassment "achievements" towards mrs. Gardner. He is the one who posted the pics along with their names and home address.
He wrote about it in his blog. He didn't just go around posting the address for their million dollar home (paid for with backer money mind you) all over social media. But her, you just keep up that hyperbole train there buddy.
You're serious defending DS's about copying images of mrs. Gardiner's child's from her tweet and re-posting them on his facebook, blog and twitter for everyone to see along with names and home address.
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As for the Roberts residence being paid from backers money... i won't drag me down the drain to comment on this.
First, it's Ms. Sandi Gardiner (since she hasn't taken her husbands surname she's not a Mrs)
Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Thirdly get of your high horse and quit making stupid shit personal.
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“Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist). I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.
On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
Yeah. I am sure Chris Roberts earned nothing from selling a game company to Microsoft and being involved in creating 22 computer games (most of them still selling well at GoG and other places after selling well at their premiere and having received high praise at launch from the international gaming press) and 10 movies.
Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist). I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.
On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment. Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
“Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
Posting pictures of her Child along with the kid's name
More proof of posting images of her daughters, along with their home address
Despicable behavior. Anyone who condones Derek Smart's actions are scum.
So you're saying Sandi and/or Chris shouldn't have posted pictures of their daughter? Not sure why it's despicable behaviour for a parent to post pictures on their child's public IMDB page but guess that's your call.
Did you actually read the first posts in this thread ?
Go to page one post 3. There is a list of DS's harassment "achievements" towards mrs. Gardner. He is the one who posted the pics along with their names and home address.
He wrote about it in his blog. As a matter of fact, all of that information comes from his blog as the first source. He didn't just go around posting the address for their million dollar home (paid for with backer money mind you) all over social media. But hey, you just keep up that hyperbole train there buddy.
Oh, they paid for their home with backer money? Who said that?
they didnt own it before the kickstarter. after the kickstarter, bam million dollar home, you do the math smart guy. You'll have to excuse me, I have to go try and swindle some nerd out of his Hulk 181, lmao
Yeah,but where did this come from? I never saw that article.
If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment. Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
Harassment goes on several levels. The examples you provided are considered Criminal Harassment, on witch there is a legal ground to sue the person over it.
Internet escapes a lot of it, at least where i live if you grab a picture of some person, print it and post it on walls on a public space with one hate message towards the person, it's not legal... but on the internet there is no problem of doing the same.
Yeah. I am sure Chris Roberts earned nothing from selling a game company to Microsoft and being involved in creating 22 computer games (most of them still selling well at GoG and other places after selling well at their premiere and having received high praise at launch from the international gaming press) and 10 movies.
Have fun
Well his company spent $30 million on the Film Wing Commander, which only got back around $11 million, so made a loss of around $19 miilion.
So I hope the company he sold to MS was worth alot.
“Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
Funny how anti people only look at the things that did not go well for CR. That he was co-producer for well received movies is nowhere to be found in their reality.
What about Lucky Number Slevin, The Punisher or Lord of War?
Is there a reason why you only quote the 1999 USA box office number ? ($11,576,087 (USA) )
They DID show the movie worldwide, you know ;-)
And sold the DVDs. In fact ... if you look on Amazon ... they still sell them. 17 years afterwards. Which is interesting, because the movie is not very good - still seems to have some fans buying it.
If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment. Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
Harassment goes on several levels. The examples you provided are considered Criminal Harassment, on witch there is a legal ground to sue the person over it.
Internet escapes a lot of it, at least where i live if you grab a picture of some person, print it and post it on walls on a public space with one hate message towards the person, it's not legal... but on the internet there is no problem of doing the same.
Luckily people who harass on the Internet are going to start getting rude awakenings soon as seen by this article
And your our example isn't wholly true about the picture and hate message on the Internet. If you can prove that it has caused you physical or psychological harm or impacted your ability to make a living then you have a very good chance of suing either the person who posted it or the website who hosted it.
Yeah sorry about that, the worldwide movie gross was.... $11,578,022
“Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
Can we give more thought as 2 why Hillary Clinton thinks she is fit to be president after scandal after scandal after murder after murder after corruption after corruption and not think about how some woman some where takes a few days off of the internet because she cant fucking handle pixels?
Funny how anti people only look at the things that did not go well for CR. That he was co-producer for well received movies is nowhere to be found in their reality.
What about Lucky Number Slevin, The Punisher or Lord of War?
They had their good points those movies but they weren't exactly great. I know lord of war had 2 other producers; Andrew Niccol and Nocholas Cage. What part did Roberts have as producer of the film? I doubt it was budget and schedules since we all know how great he is at those.
Funny how anti people only look at the things that did not go well for CR. That he was co-producer for well received movies is nowhere to be found in their reality.
What about Lucky Number Slevin, The Punisher or Lord of War?
Well he was only one of more than fifteen producers credited on each of those movies. So it is very hard to gauge the level of his involvement, his contribution to the movie, or his ultimate profit from it.
Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist). I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.
On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment. Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
See it as, if he had really put 1M out of his money on SC as he claimed, on the year he worked on SC before the KS campaign started then he had that level of money to spend.
Good old cease and desist letter, sent a few in my time
“Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” ― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist). I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.
On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment. Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.
Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.
And Derek pretty much told them to kiss his ass and ignored that letter. Same thing that The Escapist did when the sent threatening letters to them as well.
Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist). I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.
On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment. Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
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Oh, they paid for their home with backer money? Who said that?
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Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
Thirdly get of your high horse and quit making stupid shit personal.
― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
hmmm....
CR Defense Force "He didn't do anything wrong!"
DS Defense Force: "He didn't do anything wrong!"
On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
Have fun
Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.
There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
Yeah,but where did this come from? I never saw that article.
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Internet escapes a lot of it, at least where i live if you grab a picture of some person, print it and post it on walls on a public space with one hate message towards the person, it's not legal... but on the internet there is no problem of doing the same.
So I hope the company he sold to MS was worth alot.
― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
What about Lucky Number Slevin, The Punisher or Lord of War?
Oh I forgot...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_perception
They DID show the movie worldwide, you know ;-)
And sold the DVDs. In fact ... if you look on Amazon ... they still sell them. 17 years afterwards. Which is interesting, because the movie is not very good - still seems to have some fans buying it.
Have fun
I wonder aren't there any boundaries in mud throwing ? At all ? I've seen some real BS on these boards but this is in it's own class by miles.
Not even DS dared to make such a claim.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/150000-facebook-post-that-destroyed-a-former-deputy-principals-life-20160807-gqmxqf.html
And your our example isn't wholly true about the picture and hate message on the Internet. If you can prove that it has caused you physical or psychological harm or impacted your ability to make a living then you have a very good chance of suing either the person who posted it or the website who hosted it.
― Terry Pratchett, Making Money
But other than that good point.
Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.
Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.
― Terry Pratchett, Making Money