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Sandi Gardiner Stops Social Media Over Targeted Harrassment

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  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    gir243 said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    Didn't he just tweet about this ridiculous "horror porn" crap a day or two ago and refer to Sandi by name?
     CIG is full of hot air. They just rely on scare tactics. As soon as their bluff is called they crumple into a pile. 

    Perfect examples are the legal letters sent to Derek Smart. Yet he kept writing his blogs and mentioning the Roberts! Letters sent to The Escapist site, yet the stood by their story and their sources and finally the people who were denied refunds who involved local authorities and finally got their refunds!
  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    vorpal28 said:
    Yeah sorry about that, the worldwide movie gross was.... $11,578,022
    Let me get this straight- you REALLY believe that all showings worldwide and all DVD sales over 17 years added around 2000 $ to the US Box Office number? 

    Nuff said...


    Have fun
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2016
    WalkinGlenn said: 
    Perfect examples are the legal letters sent to Derek Smart
    The majority of the legal threats are just that, threats, welcome to the real world. DS himself is a better example, even known for making legal threats to people who reviewed his game. Same on the legal threats he sent to CIG via letters with his demands last year.
  • VorpalChicken28VorpalChicken28 Member UncommonPosts: 348
    Erillion said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Yeah sorry about that, the worldwide movie gross was.... $11,578,022
    Let me get this straight- you REALLY believe that all showings worldwide and all DVD sales over 17 years added around 2000 $ to the US Box Office number? 

    Nuff said...


    Have fun
    Actually what I believe is I posted the gross from the films initial run and worldwide release, everything that comes after (in this case) is pretty irrelevant, at no point did I state that it was the gross to date.

    The film has one of the worst overalls reviews in film history, it lost 20th Century fox £19 million I'm pretty sure they are really happy they recouped a few $ over the last 17 years, and I imagine it is an extremely paltry amount compared to the amount lost.

    Have fun...
    “Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” 
    ― Terry PratchettMaking Money
  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254
    Whatever the case was with his finances pre-SC, I think we can be fairly sure he has paid himself quite nicely since then.
  • VorpalChicken28VorpalChicken28 Member UncommonPosts: 348
    Whatever the case was with his finances pre-SC, I think we can be fairly sure he has paid himself quite nicely since then.
    I'd imagine he'd doing pretty well atm, he's formed multiple companies that are all effectively separate entities and will be paid for each position he holds in each company.
    “Nevertheless, the human brain, which survives by hoping from one second to another, will always endeavor to put off the moment of truth. Moist” 
    ― Terry PratchettMaking Money
  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Whatever the case was with his finances pre-SC, I think we can be fairly sure he has paid himself quite nicely since then.
    Paid himself and his wife quite nicely... lucky stroke that she had those 2 Masters in marketing in her back pocket :)
    "Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”

    ― Umberto Eco

    “Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” 
    ― CD PROJEKT RED

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    gir243 said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    Didn't he just tweet about this ridiculous "horror porn" crap a day or two ago and refer to Sandi by name?
    I do not know. What i do know is that since he received the warning he immediately stopped bringing the children and any info regarded as personal into the spotlight. Because he knew he was about to be sued into oblivion.
  • WalkinGlennWalkinGlenn Member RarePosts: 451
    Shodanas said:
    gir243 said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    Didn't he just tweet about this ridiculous "horror porn" crap a day or two ago and refer to Sandi by name?
    I do not know. What i do know is that since he received the warning he immediately stopped bringing the children and any info regarded as personal into the spotlight. Because he knew he was about to be sued into oblivion.
     Once again that did not happen. He continued his blogs and he continued to write about the Roberts in his blogs. There was no writings that focused on an children. There was a single facebook screenshot that I recall and that was the extent of it. The hyperbole continues.
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    WTF?? Suzie??

    Are you serious?

    No offense but WHERE or HOW do you deduct this has ANYTHING,like even remotely a 1% chance of being GENDER related?

    people that were brought up properly with solid morals SHOULD be criticizing the very way SC does business and takes money FREE from NAIVE people even though he could have EASILY funded this so called 6 million dollar project.

    JUST MORLAS carry no gender behind them,you are either an honest ,good standard person or you are not,trying to blindly attach gender to it ,is almost just as wrong and stirring up an invisible pot.

    Anyone that knows me at all,knows that if i see something i deem wrong,i would speak up VERY quickly.Point being that if i thought this was gender related hate,i would be all over it very quickly.

    So if you want me to jump aboard i NEED convincing.I am a logical person and i do see reason in opinions,so i there is any grounds here ,i will notice it.
    What i see ,standing back and viewing the whole scope is that there are likely entities that are targetting the "business"of which Sandy is a MAIN target,there are really only TWO maybe 3 targets,Sandy,Chris,his brother as his lawyer/accountant is not really a major target,so chances are 1/3 is 33%,nothing out of ordinary there and being that Chris has absorbed tons of criticism as well,there is definitely nothing out of the norm.

    Who else are they going to target if not Sandy or Chris??

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • MareliusMarelius Member UncommonPosts: 130
    Shodanas said:
    gir243 said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    Didn't he just tweet about this ridiculous "horror porn" crap a day or two ago and refer to Sandi by name?
    I do not know. What i do know is that since he received the warning he immediately stopped bringing the children and any info regarded as personal into the spotlight. Because he knew he was about to be sued into oblivion.
     Once again that did not happen. He continued his blogs and he continued to write about the Roberts in his blogs. There was no writings that focused on an children. There was a single facebook screenshot that I recall and that was the extent of it. The hyperbole continues.
    Amazing how the same few people give wrong facts over and over again. Smart seems to be right to say he is at war with all the lies directed right at him. Also I have read over and over again, he would love Roberts to take him to court. If Smart is so guilty by the few on this forums then why hasn't Roberts filed against him? To me that seems to speak volumes. 
    Sometimes it's not always about what you can see or hear but what's under the hood of a game that's most impressive. Between those thousands and thousands of lines of code, magic happens. Sometimes the most amazing feats of gaming wizardry happen without you even noticing.

    Rob Manuel

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    I should also point out that of course as expected "doesn't make it right"some maybe even 99% of accusations are FALSE,that does NOT in any fashion point to gender hate.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited August 2016
    Shodanas said:
    gir243 said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    Didn't he just tweet about this ridiculous "horror porn" crap a day or two ago and refer to Sandi by name?
    I do not know. What i do know is that since he received the warning he immediately stopped bringing the children and any info regarded as personal into the spotlight. Because he knew he was about to be sued into oblivion.
    The law is quite often used for personal gains and NOT always an accurate assessment of the way things SHOULD be handled.

    There is for example a rule "again doesn't make it right"about excessive.My point is the LAW should act out according to THAT agenda and not just one that she might use the law to THREATEN someone else.

    It is basically a form of saying "ONLY say nice things about me" or i will get the law my lawyers after you,in other words,i will spend money to silence you,unless of course you pamper me and make me look really good than that is acceptable.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Wizardry said:
    Shodanas said:
    gir243 said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    Didn't he just tweet about this ridiculous "horror porn" crap a day or two ago and refer to Sandi by name?
    I do not know. What i do know is that since he received the warning he immediately stopped bringing the children and any info regarded as personal into the spotlight. Because he knew he was about to be sued into oblivion.
    The law is quite often used for personal gains and NOT always an accurate assessment of the way things SHOULD be handled.

    There is for example a rule "again doesn't make it right"about excessive.My point is the LAW should act out according to THAT agenda and not just one that she might use the law to THREATEN someone else.

    It is basically a form of saying "ONLY say nice things about me" or i will get the law my lawyers after you,in other words,i will spend money to silence you,unless of course you pamper me and make me look really good than that is acceptable.
    Let me get this straight.

    You're saying that the Roberts used the law to intimidate poor smarty and shut him up. I'm i right ?

    LOL.. just LOL.
  • KefoKefo Member EpicPosts: 4,229
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    The full letters are hilarious reads. The letter Derek's lawyers sent in reply is an even better read as they tear apart the claims they(Ortwin?) made in the original letter. It all amounts to you can't sue someone for harassment if it's public knowledge and you can't sue for defamation of character if you are still bringing in money as your website suggests.
  • rodarinrodarin Member EpicPosts: 2,611
    edited August 2016
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    That make believe nonsense from some guy who probably got a degree from Phoenix University is laughable. But the main point here is that letter was sent almost a year ago. If it was so bad that far back that it warranted that nonsense why has she 'taken it' for another whole year?

    This whole thing is nonsense and the post by Ford in this thread shows the clear and utter separation from reality the writers here have. One can claim that post was an opinion comment as a person and not a rep of this place. But since it was in direct response to a post that person initiated in an official capacity (copy and pasted or not) it still has to be held to a higher standard.

    Its is also awesome that a pro Roberts forum warrior had a complete cliff notes list of every single thing that Derek Smart has been blamed for (which he more than likely wasnt involved in half of) at the ready to post here as the 'smoking gun'. Which did a couple things. Showed that this person is NOT some random forum poster but some CiG employee or mouthpiece who is just another in a list of people here spreading the propaganda of that game, and it also let any one see these 'outrageous and despicable' things in a one click away list. So if these things were so heinous and egregious why was that list kept up so anyone can simply peruse all this stuff that drove her from social media at their leisure, and not even have to look it up but have it in one neat little spot? The stuff about Lesnick (that he didnt post himself)was deleted and erased but this stuff which is supposedly worse stays there for everyone to see...

    Like I said everything around this whole thing is a joke. From the OP report to the OP comment to the comments of most everyone involved. From the timing of the remarks she made to the at the ready material pro Roberts people had locked and loaded ready to post anywhere and everywhere. But it is most definitely doing what it is supposed to do. Distract from the disaster that is Star Citizen and maybe looking to have this story be the talking points of the upcoming conventions (with the feigned 'we dont want to justify such things with comments') but still not say anything substantive about any of the games theyre making.
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    Kefo said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    The full letters are hilarious reads. The letter Derek's lawyers sent in reply is an even better read as they tear apart the claims they(Ortwin?) made in the original letter. It all amounts to you can't sue someone for harassment if it's public knowledge and you can't sue for defamation of character if you are still bringing in money as your website suggests.
    Can we have a link to said letters ?
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2016
    Marelius said:
    Amazing how the same few people give wrong facts over and over again. Smart seems to be right to say he is at war with all the lies directed right at him. Also I have read over and over again, he would love Roberts to take him to court. If Smart is so guilty by the few on this forums then why hasn't Roberts filed against him? To me that seems to speak volumes. 
    lol, i love when people here conveniently ignore all the empty threats DS did, when he sent his lawyer after CIG with demands that if un-met he would start legal action... all out of hot air. Let me tell you about another few group of people, the ones who dedicated their activity on an internet forum to only post negativity towards SC while accusing who's activity is the contrary of being cultists. What is hilarious to me is if DS had less BS he would have pursued instead, but no... he just did that to have flashy headlines on the media with his name on! And he got them.
  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited August 2016
    rodarin said:
    Shodanas said:
    vorpal28 said:
    MaxBacon said:
    vorpal28 said:
    Second all the information is in the public domain, and as such can be freely posted/copied ad naseum.
    Let's go hypothetical. I knowing your real name, dig upon it for some time and get your phone number from public listings or informational services (as they exist)I go to internet forums, my blogs and social media accounts, talking about all my negative opinions of you with also sharing your phone number.


    On your view, just because your information was publicly reach-able, i wasn't harassing you?
    If that hypothetical information was public domain, then no it's not harassment, unpleasant yes, harassment no.

    Repeatedly calling me, heavy breathing down the phone, then yes that would be harassment.
    Going taking pictures of me covertly, posting them on the net for all to see would be harassment.

    There's a reason why (and why the fuck am I actually defending this guy) Derek Smart hasn't been sued into oblivion or had a restraining order slapped on him is that he's actually done nothing wrong (legally), morally well that could be another story.
    http://imgur.com/5kpG8UY

    Enjoy the read especially the yellow marked text and contemplate on the smartass and out of context comments you made about this issue.

    Furthermore feel free to check if DS dared to further post any stuff about CR's family after he received this.

    That make believe nonsense from some guy who probably got a degree from Phoenix University is laughable. But the main point here is that letter was sent almost a year ago. If it was so bad that far back that it warranted that nonsense why has she 'taken it' for another whole year?

    This whole thing is nonsense and the post by Ford in this thread shows the clear and utter separation from reality the writers here have. One can claim that post was an opinion comment as a person and not a rep of this place. But since it was in direct response to a post that person initiated in an official capacity (copy and pasted or not) it still has to be held to a higher standard.

    Its is also awesome that a pro Roberts forum warrior had a complete cliff notes list of every single thing that Derek Smart has been blamed for (which he more than likely wasnt involved in half of) at the ready to post here as the 'smoking gun'. Which did a couple things. Showed that this person is NOT some random forum poster but some CiG employee or mouthpiece who is just another in a list of people here spreading the propaganda of that game, and it also let any one see these 'outrageous and despicable' things in a one click away list. So if these things were so heinous and egregious why was that list kept up so anyone can simply peruse all this stuff that drove her from social media at their leisure, and not even have to look it up but have it in one neat little spot? The stuff about Lesnick (that he didnt post himself)was deleted and erased but this stuff which is supposedly worse stays there for everyone to see...

    Like I said everything around this whole thing is a joke. From the OP report to the OP comment to the comments of most everyone involved. From the timing of the remarks she made to the at the ready material pro Roberts people had locked and loaded ready to post anywhere and everywhere. But it is most definitely doing what it is supposed to do. Distract from the disaster that is Star Citizen and maybe looking to have this story be the talking points of the upcoming conventions (with the feigned 'we dont want to justify such things with comments') but still not say anything substantive about any of the games theyre making.
    Is there a point somewhere in this wall of text ?

    A point besides the one that everything not fitting your view is a joke and everyone not aligning with your thesis is separated from reality, as you put it.

    Feel free to reply with another wall of text. That's what you're always do anyways. Walls of text with nothing else but mockery and down talking for anyone not wearing your glasses.

    I won't bother reading it.


    Post edited by Shodanas on
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    Oh wow. 

    DS latest blog post for replying to the whole harassment thing, firstly over all he already did talk about SG, talks about she being an Escort (because that's very necessary to the discussion), now edited to remove that part. lol

    Go figure...
  • MareliusMarelius Member UncommonPosts: 130
    MaxBacon said:
    Oh wow. 

    DS latest blog post for replying to the whole harassment thing, firstly over all he already did talk about SG, talks about she being an Escort (because that's very necessary to the discussion), now edited to remove that part. lol

    Go figure...
    Well if she was and he has proof which I highly think he does because he did say he had it go through legal. But if he didn't go through legal and it is a lie, then Sandi has the right to sue him for everything he has. Let's see what is filed on Monday, but being who she is and has access to a lawyer then why hasn't that been published, that would be huge and be on all gaming sites.

    I would have expected it to be filed and on all sites by closing yesterday. 
    Sometimes it's not always about what you can see or hear but what's under the hood of a game that's most impressive. Between those thousands and thousands of lines of code, magic happens. Sometimes the most amazing feats of gaming wizardry happen without you even noticing.

    Rob Manuel

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933
    edited August 2016
    MaxBacon said:
    Oh wow. 

    DS latest blog post for replying to the whole harassment thing, firstly over all he already did talk about SG, talks about she being an Escort (because that's very necessary to the discussion), now edited to remove that part. lol

    Go figure...
    I went through DS's lengthy post. The usual pompous rhetoric present in every piece he writes with 0 substance. In short, full of hot air.

    What i found especially amusing is his thesis about the value of free speech and how he presents himself as an advocate of free speech.

    This coming from the same person who threatened reviewers with lawsuits and makes short work of everyone daring to challenge him on his tweet, blogs, etc gives the word "hypocrite" a new meaning. I think the term we are looking for here is "narcissism". I'm no expert but i believe that mr. DS is a textbook narcissist.


  • ErillionErillion Member EpicPosts: 10,328
    vorpal28 said:
     it lost 20th Century fox £19 million 
    Feel free to post a link where it says that the film lost 20th Century Fox 19 $ million  (or as you claim £19 million).

    Just because you cannot count and deduct ONLY the 11,6 M$ US box office from the 30 M$ production count, completely forgetting the box office count from the rest of the world (which is often up to or more than the US sum) and also completely forget DVD sales (in 1999 and ever since) does not mean that 20th Century Fox lost the sum you mention above.

    And if you claim that worldwide box office count and DVD sales amount to less than 2000 $ i have to cast doubt on your mental competence.

    Just to give you an example from another movie based on a computer game. WoW the movie made only 11% of its box office in the US and 89 % outside the US.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=warcraft.htm

    On this website you will also see that the number YOU quoted for Wing Commander is ONLY the domestic (US) number:
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=wingcommander.htm
    NOT the worldwide number.


    Have fun
  • MaxBaconMaxBacon Member LegendaryPosts: 7,846
    edited August 2016
    Marelius said:
    Well if she was and he has proof which I highly think he does because he did say he had it go through legal. But if he didn't go through legal and it is a lie, then Sandi has the right to sue him for everything he has. Let's see what is filed on Monday, but being who she is and has access to a lawyer then why hasn't that been published, that would be huge and be on all gaming sites.

    I would have expected it to be filed and on all sites by closing yesterday. 
    He did not had any proof for that, on an reply to harassment blog he writes the following quote "There are also images floating around claiming that she was also an escort.". It goes beyond my logic the need to put those things in there, what is the objective.

    What is there to file?! She said she would stop posting on her personal social media accounts, that's all that happened here.
  • VorpalChicken28VorpalChicken28 Member UncommonPosts: 348
    edited August 2016
    Erillion said:
    vorpal28 said:
     it lost 20th Century fox £19 million 
    Feel free to post a link where it says that the film lost 20th Century Fox 19 $ million  (or as you claim £19 million).

    Just because you cannot count and deduct ONLY the 11,6 M$ US box office from the 30 M$ production count, completely forgetting the box office count from the rest of the world (which is often up to or more than the US sum) and also completely forget DVD sales (in 1999 and ever since) does not mean that 20th Century Fox lost the sum you mention above.

    And if you claim that worldwide box office count and DVD sales amount to less than 2000 $ i have to cast doubt on your mental competence.

    Just to give you an example from another movie based on a computer game. WoW the movie made only 11% of its box office in the US and 89 % outside the US.
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=warcraft.htm

    On this website you will also see that the number YOU quoted for Wing Commander is ONLY the domestic (US) number:
    http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=wingcommander.htm
    NOT the worldwide number.


    Have fun
    Got it from HERE

    And the film GROSS

    *Edit forgot the gross link*
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