OW is way way way way better, and no free kiddies around, that makes it better period.
Its free is all, the rest is well, won t comment.
OW is Blizzards new baby, they re not going to let a half baked wannabe surpass it.
Blizz will keep this game going and thriving well after Paladins is
forgotten. Which IMO will be sooner then you think. It will go the way
of Battleborn.
Damn these blizz haters. No jokes tho enjoy ur game,no need to bash a ftp game cause u like another game more ... Same for the opposite opinions,its a poll to say which one u enjoy not why u hate overwatch or why u hate paladins.
I played paladins in closed beta and the beta of Overwatch. Paladins seemed quite bare-boned, and seemd to lack the impact and polish of Overwatch. It was still fun to play, but I got bored of it quickly. It just seemed to lack something.
Open Beta Paladins is much more fleshed out over the closed beta. I have played since Alpha 1 and the game has changed tremendously
@filmoret ; yes Fractured Space is F2P, though it falls very into the pay to skip part. Pretty close to league of legends, and it would almost be better if some aspects like the rune equivalence wasn't on a silly "wheel of fortune" loot box.
Unlocking a simpler ship can take 10 to 20 games, with games averaging 20 mins or so. The ships themselves trade power for critical weaknesses, and less customization(even the 3 starter ships you get from the start are used by the highest end competitive players). For instance the gladiator(not simple) which has the most damage in the game, has poor defences in it's actual firing arc(You'll still win a straight up fight against just about any ship but die otherwise) but can be taken out by a low damage support ship(slowly but easily) if they're above it or if they can kite to stay out of your firing arc, Likewise the gladitor is so slow that high end players can almost ignore it to achieve an objective if it's not already there. Basically even at the newbie levels if you say it's weakness players do actually use it ok-ish-ly.
Also support ships are really fun to play in the game, especially the more advanced versions. With okay-ish play a support character can hold their own on an objective, or at least punish the enemy so they can't keep it long. Likewise since even "light" ships are still slow hulks you don't have the instant dash meta most MOBA's have, and a lot of the support ships are really good at punishing a single attacker that's focusing them(or making it so that allies can take them down really really fast if you're positioned right).
EDIT: There is one really bad downside of being a space game instead of a character game though. With characters you can see know what they're supposed to do. With spaceships there is not "Oh they have wings they probably fly", "she looks grandmotherly, she's probably a support", or similar.
Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent.
"At one point technology meant making tech that could get to the moon, now it means making tech that could get you a taxi."
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
You're right that Paladins has more "stuff" like cards and items, and most likely will add more stuff, but that is not necessarily a good thing.
Cards seem like a bad idea because if you don't have the best cards, you're going to be at a disadvantage. Items seem like an extremely bad idea because it just promotes steamrolling.
Items make sense in MOBAs like DOTA2 because they are pvp/pve hybrids. Strategically and effectively killing minions is an important aspect of the game.
Both cards and items devalue individual skill.
All in all, Paladins seems like an extremely casual chaotic game, which I guess is cool if you just want to mess around for free in a hero shooter.
Overwatch is a legit e-sport though. Player skill and strategy are paramount.
tldr; Battleborn has even more "stuff" than Paladins. That doesn't make it a better game. Even if it did, adding even more "stuff" isn't going to fundamentally change the game.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in its release state right now.
I genuinely enjoy Paladins more. That's not to say that I don't like OW, as I most certainly do, but as of right now, there are just certain aspects of Paladins that make it more enjoyable to me (the builds for example).
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
The link is about the game is only beta and they are making tons of changes. The fact that they will start testing tournaments in January says the game will be in a much more polished state then it is right now. Otherwise they would just start the tournaments right now. Maybe read the article its only like 4 paragraphs. They have plans and they are developing the game as we speak. It is not a launched game.
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
The link is about the game is only beta and they are making tons of changes. The fact that they will start testing tournaments in January says the game will be in a much more polished state then it is right now. Otherwise they would just start the tournaments right now. Maybe read the article its only like 4 paragraphs. They have plans and they are developing the game as we speak. It is not a launched game.
That article is from last year and does not say anything about plans to polish the game in January of next year.
SMITE didn't change much from open beta to release (basically not at all). I don't expect Paladins to either.
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
The link is about the game is only beta and they are making tons of changes. The fact that they will start testing tournaments in January says the game will be in a much more polished state then it is right now. Otherwise they would just start the tournaments right now. Maybe read the article its only like 4 paragraphs. They have plans and they are developing the game as we speak. It is not a launched game.
You don t give up do you. I ll tell you what, we ll give Paladins a year from now, then lets talk about whos on top. If you think Paladins is it , we ll delusional comes to mind. That said the power of OMG I can t afford anything so free is better is still on your side.
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
The link is about the game is only beta and they are making tons of changes. The fact that they will start testing tournaments in January says the game will be in a much more polished state then it is right now. Otherwise they would just start the tournaments right now. Maybe read the article its only like 4 paragraphs. They have plans and they are developing the game as we speak. It is not a launched game.
You don t give up do you. I ll tell you what, we ll give Paladins a year from now, then lets talk about whos on top. If you think Paladins is it , we ll delusional comes to mind. That said the power of OMG I can t afford anything so free is better is still on your side.
For every 2 people that are saying OW is better there is 1 person saying that Paladin's is better. Sorry that hurts your pride somehow thinking that everyone should just fall to their knees at the almighty OW. Maybe you should open your mind a bit and realize its just another hero shooter. Its you who are in a huge minoirity considering OW is only rated at a 6/10 metascore.
By the way people are responding they aren't aware that Paladins allows you to set builds for each champion. Then once the match has started you are able to purchase items to enhance the champion. Right now Overwatch does not offer anything like this. It draws a line that makes Paladins much different. Its like saying that DOTA2 would be better if they didn't have item builds. Everyone knows that isn't even close to true. So unless OW brings something to the table they will be inferrior as soon as Paladins gets their game full throttle.
What exactly do you expect Overwatch to do besides add more champions and more game modes? Don't think that is going to be enough it will not.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in it's release state right now.
Straight out of my ass just for you.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
The link is about the game is only beta and they are making tons of changes. The fact that they will start testing tournaments in January says the game will be in a much more polished state then it is right now. Otherwise they would just start the tournaments right now. Maybe read the article its only like 4 paragraphs. They have plans and they are developing the game as we speak. It is not a launched game.
You don t give up do you. I ll tell you what, we ll give Paladins a year from now, then lets talk about whos on top. If you think Paladins is it , we ll delusional comes to mind. That said the power of OMG I can t afford anything so free is better is still on your side.
For every 2 people that are saying OW is better there is 1 person saying that Paladin's is better. Sorry that hurts your pride somehow thinking that everyone should just fall to their knees at the almighty OW. Maybe you should open your mind a bit and realize its just another hero shooter. Its you who are in a huge minoirity considering OW is only rated at a 6/10 metascore.
Doesn t hurt anything , just proves OW is better, thanks for proving that.
One cannot simply say Paladins while looking at Overwatch with a straight face!
One cannot simply say Paladins its better then Overwatch !
One cannot simply say "The only thing I expect Blizzard to do is add more champions and maybe a different map. Meanwhile Paladins will add champions and different builds for those champions. When you think about it you realize that blizzard really isn't going to add anything to this game while Paladins will actually add something worth having." . I mean C'MON!!!
Paladins it's the most xerox game ever build , ever! No game has been xeroxed as Paladins did with Overwatch !
One who say that Paladins is better, even if that one played both games, then one has some serious ... problems!
"Now if Paladins decides to get rid of the building process then they will be no different then OW." They are NOT different now , nor they will be different in the future ... pf ! And no! Some different skill(s) animation, names, etc or some different maps/heroes/etc texture does not make it a different game!
The Blizzard hate in this site is oustanding high!
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OW is way way way way better, and no free kiddies around, that makes it better period.
Its free is all, the rest is well, won t comment.
OW is Blizzards new baby, they re not going to let a half baked wannabe surpass it.
Blizz will keep this game going and thriving well after Paladins is forgotten. Which IMO will be sooner then you think. It will go the way of Battleborn.
Damn these blizz haters.
No jokes tho enjoy ur game,no need to bash a ftp game cause u like another game more ...
Same for the opposite opinions,its a poll to say which one u enjoy not why u hate overwatch or why u hate paladins.
Unlocking a simpler ship can take 10 to 20 games, with games averaging 20 mins or so. The ships themselves trade power for critical weaknesses, and less customization(even the 3 starter ships you get from the start are used by the highest end competitive players). For instance the gladiator(not simple) which has the most damage in the game, has poor defences in it's actual firing arc(You'll still win a straight up fight against just about any ship but die otherwise) but can be taken out by a low damage support ship(slowly but easily) if they're above it or if they can kite to stay out of your firing arc, Likewise the gladitor is so slow that high end players can almost ignore it to achieve an objective if it's not already there. Basically even at the newbie levels if you say it's weakness players do actually use it ok-ish-ly.
Also support ships are really fun to play in the game, especially the more advanced versions. With okay-ish play a support character can hold their own on an objective, or at least punish the enemy so they can't keep it long. Likewise since even "light" ships are still slow hulks you don't have the instant dash meta most MOBA's have, and a lot of the support ships are really good at punishing a single attacker that's focusing them(or making it so that allies can take them down really really fast if you're positioned right).
EDIT:
There is one really bad downside of being a space game instead of a character game though. With characters you can see know what they're supposed to do. With spaceships there is not "Oh they have wings they probably fly", "she looks grandmotherly, she's probably a support", or similar.
Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent.
"At one point technology meant making tech that could get to the moon, now it means making tech that could get you a taxi."
Cards seem like a bad idea because if you don't have the best cards, you're going to be at a disadvantage.
Items seem like an extremely bad idea because it just promotes steamrolling.
Items make sense in MOBAs like DOTA2 because they are pvp/pve hybrids. Strategically and effectively killing minions is an important aspect of the game.
Both cards and items devalue individual skill.
All in all, Paladins seems like an extremely casual chaotic game, which I guess is cool if you just want to mess around for free in a hero shooter.
Overwatch is a legit e-sport though. Player skill and strategy are paramount.
tldr; Battleborn has even more "stuff" than Paladins. That doesn't make it a better game. Even if it did, adding even more "stuff" isn't going to fundamentally change the game.
Also your prediction that the game will be more "polished" in January is pulled directly out of your ass. The game is effectively in its release state right now.
"In addition, in January, we will start holding regular online tournaments with small cash prizes (similar to how we started the Smite competitive scene back in 2012/2013).
For us, this tournament is a starting point, not an ending point."
http://forums.paladins.com/showthread.php?2426-ANNOUNCING-The-100-000-Paladins-Founder-s-Tournament
SMITE didn't change much from open beta to release (basically not at all). I don't expect Paladins to either.
You don t give up do you. I ll tell you what, we ll give Paladins a year from now, then lets talk about whos on top. If you think Paladins is it , we ll delusional comes to mind. That said the power of OMG I can t afford anything so free is better is still on your side.
Doesn t hurt anything , just proves OW is better, thanks for proving that.
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One cannot simply say Paladins its better then Overwatch !
One cannot simply say "The only thing I expect Blizzard to do is add more champions and maybe a different map. Meanwhile Paladins will add champions and different builds for those champions. When you think about it you realize that blizzard really isn't going to add anything to this game while Paladins will actually add something worth having." . I mean C'MON!!!
Paladins it's the most xerox game ever build , ever! No game has been xeroxed as Paladins did with Overwatch !
One who say that Paladins is better, even if that one played both games, then one has some serious ... problems!
"Now if Paladins decides to get rid of the building process then they will be no different then OW." They are NOT different now , nor they will be different in the future ... pf ! And no! Some different skill(s) animation, names, etc or some different maps/heroes/etc texture does not make it a different game!
The Blizzard hate in this site is oustanding high!
Reporter: What's behind Blizzard success, and how do you make your gamers happy?
Blizzard Boss: Making gamers happy is not my concern, making money.. yes!